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Fabb
Jan 20, 2005, 11:01 AM
the structural system of the two towers are almost exact. And mega-columns are definitely there.

I don't see mega-columns, only the steel used in the reinforced concrete.

Aboveday
Jan 20, 2005, 1:39 PM
is reinforced concrete mega-columns flexible enough to against earthquake and strong wind? why don`t they use steel?

Fabb
Jan 20, 2005, 6:23 PM
Well, I don't know. But isn't it true that Burj Dubai uses reinforced concrete as well ?

vincent
Jan 20, 2005, 10:53 PM
two mega columns locates on each side in US7 foundation. But they are using reinforced concrete (it means both reinforcement bar and high grade concrete) this time (instead of I-beam steel and reinforced concrete in 2ifc). It is clearly visible in the pics. I think they will start using steel somewhere above ground (or they will keep using concrete all the way?) i am not sure.

Fabb
Jan 21, 2005, 7:36 AM
two mega columns locates on each side in US7 foundation. But they are using reinforced concrete (it means both reinforcement bar and high grade concrete) this time (instead of I-beam steel and reinforced concrete in 2ifc).

OK.
Only two mega-columns ? I'm not sure I see them, but I think I can identify a double core and eight colums at the periphery of the circular hole.

vincent
Jan 21, 2005, 7:58 AM
two mega-columns on each side. So it is a total of 8 mega-columns on all 4 sides. And they are the exact same columns as what you decribed as "eight colums at the periphery of the circular hole."

btw, what do u mean by "double core"?

Rachmaninov
Jan 21, 2005, 9:05 AM
I guess he's referring to the core which is sort of divided into two parts at the middle. Ever notice the walls are seperated?

I guess a big earthquake wasn't expected and thus won't be taken into account when building the US7. As for strong winds, they may have installed mass dampers or they may vibrate a huge block at the top of it to 'cancel out' the vibration caused by strong winds, by not allowing it to resonate.

Fabb
Jan 21, 2005, 12:58 PM
two mega-columns on each side. So it is a total of 8 mega-columns on all 4 sides. And they are the exact same columns as what you decribed as "eight colums at the periphery of the circular hole."

btw, what do u mean by "double core"?

I wasn't clear, sorry. But Rachmaninov got my message.

I, too, wonder if any Tuned-Mass-Damper will be installed.

alejandro
Jan 22, 2005, 6:22 AM
Think the US7 core is to damn big fot the building size, though I'm not an engineer (hope that's how it writes), I belive they coud have done it a bit smaller, for more office space, by reenforcing the Mega-columns.

:rolleyes: :rock: :rolleyes:

Aboveday
Jan 22, 2005, 8:22 AM
How can reinforced concrete mega-columns due with the vibration by the wind?won`t it crack ?

Jaroslaw
Jan 22, 2005, 3:02 PM
Perhaps the reason for the delay of US 7 was not a fear of an office space glut but something more banal: a conflict of opinions about the direction of the price of steel, and about whether to redesign the building as a cheaper, concrete one. Here is something a forumer in Chicago found out directly from a developer planning to put up a 65 story tower:

"As you know, construction prices skyrocketed over the last 18 months, especially steel and concrete. It is outrageous, and the market as a whole has long since passed the equilibrium point where such increased costs can simply be passed along to the consumer... Now the price of both products fluctuates daily, and we routinely design dual systems and pull the trigget as late as we can."

I also wonder about the wind. Would it make more sense for this tower to have rounded edges to make it more aerodynamic, like 2 IFC?

Rachmaninov
Jan 22, 2005, 3:19 PM
Think the US7 core is to damn big fot the building size, though I'm not an engineer (hope that's how it writes), I belive they coud have done it a bit smaller, for more office space, by reenforcing the Mega-columns.

:rolleyes: :rock: :rolleyes:

The Mega columns are reinforced. You seldom see a concrete project with concrete ONLY, because we usually assume that concrete has no tensile strength, although in reality it has about 5MPa.

Aboveday
Jan 22, 2005, 4:54 PM
reinforced concrete for a 111-story tower ,scary-scary.

Fabb
Jan 22, 2005, 5:20 PM
... any kind of 111-story building is a little scary anyway, isn't it ?

Aboveday
Jan 24, 2005, 1:31 PM
Oui Oui Oui.:)

cas1976
Feb 7, 2005, 3:44 PM
some updates

cas1976
Feb 7, 2005, 3:45 PM
some updates.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424264.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424268.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424271.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424272.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424273.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424274.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424275.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424276.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424277.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424278.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424279.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424280.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424281.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424289.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/cas1976/US/1424290.jpg

Rachmaninov
Feb 7, 2005, 4:24 PM
That's my boy!! Cool pics!!

vincent
Feb 7, 2005, 4:32 PM
very nice update!

superchan7
Feb 7, 2005, 7:25 PM
US7 RISES!

Fabb
Feb 7, 2005, 7:31 PM
I was getting worried.
Now I feel better. Thanks !

igzaklee
Feb 7, 2005, 7:55 PM
yessir!! :D

Rachmaninov
Feb 7, 2005, 9:58 PM
The columns look real HUGE... by the way the Victory Arch isn't that bad at all...

Ersh
Feb 7, 2005, 9:59 PM
Yes! It's finally beginning to rise out of the pit! :D

Fabb
Feb 7, 2005, 10:27 PM
The columns look real HUGE... by the way the Victory Arch isn't that bad at all...

I agree.
I just wish there hadn't been blind walls inside the arch.

Rachmaninov
Feb 7, 2005, 10:48 PM
Well it does have a little pattern on it.

Fabb
Feb 8, 2005, 11:56 AM
Right.
That's what I was thinking. I'm curious about the details of this pattern.

Aboveday
Feb 8, 2005, 1:04 PM
amazing updates,thanks a lot!

cas1976
Feb 8, 2005, 1:45 PM
but i'm afraid i can't give you guys anymore updates until June as i have to prepare my HKCEE exam.....

Rachmaninov
Feb 8, 2005, 1:49 PM
Don't worry you'll do fine! How many subjects are you doing?

Fabb, I guess the pattern inside is quite obvious already, but maybe someone can post here a close photo of the patterns?

cas1976
Feb 8, 2005, 3:08 PM
Don't worry you'll do fine! How many subjects are you doing?

Fabb, I guess the pattern inside is quite obvious already, but maybe someone can post here a close photo of the patterns?
thank you..... 8

Jose Luis
Feb 11, 2005, 2:19 AM
OMG!! IT'S SOO HUGE!! THATS AN AMAZING SKYLINE PUMPING RIGHT THERE, HK RULES. KEEP US UP TO DATE PLEASE.

Rachmaninov
Feb 23, 2005, 11:23 AM
Any more updates???

HforHenry
Mar 7, 2005, 1:47 PM
http://www.starphotohk.com/hk-place/20050306-UnionSquarePhase7-600.jpg
A update photo of US7 ....
from hkplace

Fabb
Mar 7, 2005, 2:07 PM
That's a huge photo. Thanks !
I think it's slightly ahead of SWFC.

Jaroslaw
Mar 7, 2005, 5:34 PM
A great photo indeed.

I still have trouble matching up the columns as I see them with the square layout of the tower. I assume that the columns immediately to the left of the cranes will be the left end of the building?

Rachmaninov
Mar 12, 2005, 11:21 AM
Nice update!! Thanks!!
Hope that Will would also help us shoot pics soon! He will be back in HK today!

Lecom
Mar 12, 2005, 9:09 PM
The race is on between this one and SWTC.
Place your bets, ladies and gents.

some_stupid_nut
Mar 12, 2005, 10:25 PM
US7 seems to be ahead but SWFC seems to be going faster. Too hard to decide.

Torch
Mar 13, 2005, 6:04 PM
The race is on between this one and SWTC.
Place your bets, ladies and gents.
I bet that US7 win!
becauce it began constuction earlier and is not as tall as SWFC...
Can't wait to see them rising!

Fabb
Mar 13, 2005, 6:48 PM
Right.
Besides, the hole at the top of SWFC should take longer to build than the wall extensions of US7.

FlyersFan118
Mar 13, 2005, 7:02 PM
...holy shit.


thats a big plot of land.


probably as big as center city alone.


...DAAAAMN...

buildup
Mar 14, 2005, 3:21 AM
Yeah, US7 will be done first. SWFC is bigger and more massive.

vincent
Mar 14, 2005, 4:42 AM
my best guess is US7 would be fully completed earlier than SWFC, but SWFC top out earlier than US7.

Rachmaninov
Mar 15, 2005, 5:28 PM
I think US7 would top out earlier than the SWFC

HforHenry
Mar 18, 2005, 8:58 PM
新地減九龍站商廈面積

為令項目整體布局更完善,新地旗下九龍站五至七期及元朗牛潭尾住宅兩項目,向城規會作出輕微修訂獲批,其中九龍站五至七期項目,申請將寫字樓可建樓面由原來的逾253.7萬方呎,減少逾4.3萬方呎至逾249.4萬方呎,並將一座高度由水平基準以上480米調升至水平基準以上490米。
Copy from http://the-sun.com.hk/channels/fina/20050319/ 19-3-05

US7 Good News !!
SHKP said they will increase the sea level height of US7 from 480m to 490m.

Rachmaninov
Mar 18, 2005, 9:02 PM
WaWAWAW!!!!

HforHenry
Mar 18, 2005, 9:15 PM
That mean the real height of US7 will increase from 474m to 484m ?

Fabb
Mar 18, 2005, 9:20 PM
Yes, more than likely.
Do they say if the number of floors will be increased ?

HforHenry
Mar 18, 2005, 9:28 PM
The news do not say any thing about the number of floors..

HforHenry
Mar 18, 2005, 9:30 PM
but i'm afraid i can't give you guys anymore updates until June as i have to prepare my HKCEE exam.....
I am also will take part in HKCEE this year ^^

Lecom
Mar 19, 2005, 1:35 AM
That mean the real height of US7 will increase from 474m to 484m ?
Hehe awesome. That's only like three floors though, but still, a height increase for a nearly 500 meter tower is always good news. By the way, why don't they just make the tower 500+ meters tall while they're at it?

hkskyline
Mar 19, 2005, 9:25 PM
Chad from SSC took these photos on March 18th :

Union Square
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=178469&page=5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01267.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01269.jpg

Aboveday
Mar 22, 2005, 4:28 AM
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/images/asia/cn/hk/usp7-model.jpg

try 2B funny
Mar 22, 2005, 3:11 PM
Taken on 21-3-05

http://tinypic.com/2b5jbl

Surprisingly, I quite like the color contrast, it makes HK a bit like NYC.

colemonkee
Mar 22, 2005, 7:27 PM
That looks like one expensive model...

Aboveday
Mar 23, 2005, 2:15 AM
23-3-05
Ming Po & Sun Daily News.
New Plan of US6 approved by gov last month.
9-story podium + 63-story tower,(total =72-story).


http://the-sun.com.hk/channels/fina/20050323/

新地九龍站建72層物業
23/03/2005

新地九龍站凱旋門開售在即,毗鄰旗下五至六期發展項目上月剛獲屋宇署批出建築圖則,兩幢物業樓高63層,均建於9層平台之上,令物業樓高達72層,另有一層地庫;除住宅外,尚包括服務式住宅及酒店。該項目住宅可建樓面面積逾100.8萬方呎,非住宅樓面面積則為60.6萬方呎。

cas1976
Mar 23, 2005, 12:18 PM
where is the model??

colemonkee
Mar 23, 2005, 5:05 PM
Is US6 office or residential, or a mix?

Fabb
Mar 23, 2005, 8:50 PM
23-3-05
Ming Po & Sun Daily News.
New Plan of US6 approved by gov last month.
9-story podium + 63-story tower,(total =72-story).


http://the-sun.com.hk/channels/fina/20050323/


Does that mean that it's going to be taller ?

vvill
Mar 29, 2005, 10:11 AM
picture taken a few days ago.. (sorry guys, the weather has been a bit too shite these days)

http://www.willienet.net/thearch.jpg

vincent
Mar 29, 2005, 9:11 PM
willie, no pics of US7 site? :-)

vvill
Mar 30, 2005, 3:01 AM
haha.. because when i took the photo, i was on my dad's car lah. will do that later this week. hehe.

Rachmaninov
Mar 30, 2005, 4:20 AM
No excuses!! I asked my dad to drop me off when we passed by there last summer!!

vincent
Mar 30, 2005, 8:56 AM
hehe

Rachmaninov
Apr 1, 2005, 11:04 AM
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/9509/unionsquare7014yp.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/3457/unionsquare7024eq.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/2220/unionsquare7037ph.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/5790/unionsquare7047xs.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/4392/unionsquare7053tw.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/329/unionsquare7066rr.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/2221/unionsquare7076gs.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/9721/unionsquare7084dn.jpg
http://img76.exs.cx/img76/3928/unionsquare7099mv.jpg
http://img225.exs.cx/img225/6278/unionsquare7102fy.jpg
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/5347/unionsquare7119la.jpg
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/2300/unionsquare7128xt.jpg
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/5025/unionsquare7135nd.jpg
http://img199.exs.cx/img199/9704/unionsquare7140sr.jpg

Union Square phase 7!!!!!
Shot by myself 3 hours ago!!
Hope you guys enjoy them!!

Rachmaninov
Apr 1, 2005, 11:10 AM
http://img177.exs.cx/img177/8762/unionsquare619gn.jpg
http://img177.exs.cx/img177/9618/unionsquare629ob.jpg
http://img177.exs.cx/img177/3369/unionsquare637cj.jpg
http://img177.exs.cx/img177/9442/unionsquare642vb.jpg

Union Square 6 updates!!!
Also shot by myself 3 hours ago!
Enjoy!!

Fabb
Apr 1, 2005, 1:27 PM
Thanks !
US6 is definitely ahead of US7.

Jaroslaw
Apr 1, 2005, 2:28 PM
Thank you!

This is the first time I realized the tremendous scale of these super columns on US7. It's like the Egyptian pyramids or something!

vincent
Apr 1, 2005, 3:21 PM
wow, super nice cladding for US6!
and US7 is rising, cool!!

igzaklee
Apr 1, 2005, 9:16 PM
...woah...

Aboveday
Apr 1, 2005, 11:37 PM
Awesome!

----------

Four Seasons Place luxurious show suite opens
"You are the centre of our attention"

http://www.shkp.com.hk/en/scripts/news/news_press_detail.php?press_id=3197

Check it out!

Rachmaninov
Apr 2, 2005, 5:38 AM
Ever notice the non-structural use of concrete in phase 6?

yarabundi
Apr 2, 2005, 5:42 AM
Gigantic. I like the one with motorized vehicles on the ground, dwarfed by the size of the building barely out of it !!

xiahoudun
Apr 2, 2005, 5:51 AM
Great pictures, Rachmaninov! Thanks.

JACKinBeantown
Apr 2, 2005, 9:10 AM
Sweet! It's nice to see US7 finally starting to rise.

Fabb
Apr 2, 2005, 9:11 AM
wow, super nice cladding for US6!
and US7 is rising, cool!!

I realize that US6&7 may have similar claddings. Could that be, or is it just my imagination ?

ENDOPHINS
Apr 3, 2005, 9:03 AM
wow, super nice cladding for US6!
and US7 is rising, cool!!

I realize that US6&7 may have similar claddings. Could that be, or is it just my imagination ?

I think it maybe just a cladding test of US7 :laugh:

Fabb
Apr 3, 2005, 10:25 AM
Maybe.
Possibly an April fools joke.

igzaklee
Apr 3, 2005, 9:20 PM
US6 would be amazing to watch if cladding were to 'follow' the construction just floors above it!

sort of a cladding chase~~

alejandro
Apr 4, 2005, 1:01 AM
Bless my shit!!!

Construction is already very quick, and those US7 super columns are nuts!!!

:eek: :rock: :eek:

vincent
Apr 4, 2005, 5:16 AM
not so nuts in HK standard, hehe.
I believe the columns inside the HKCEC exhibition halls are equally as nuts.

vvill
Apr 8, 2005, 8:38 AM
Union Square Updates (8.4.2005)

will: sorry steve btw.. cos was in the hurry so didn't call you!

The Arch - Union Square Phase 3
http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu1.jpg

http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu2.jpg

http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu3.jpg

http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu4.jpg

Entrance to the Arch
http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu5.jpg

Union Square Podium (Sorrento and the Waterfront)
http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu6.jpg

Phase 5 North Tower (possibly the W Hotel Union Square)
http://www.willienet.net/photos/usu7.jpg

Rachmaninov
Apr 8, 2005, 8:50 AM
Cool!! Finally you're posting updates hehe

Fabb
Apr 8, 2005, 1:04 PM
The area is taking shape !

philip
Apr 9, 2005, 7:48 AM
My God, the Arch is magnificent !!:eek:

Aboveday
Apr 9, 2005, 3:08 PM
Please remember the following figures:

US7
484 meters
138-story
.
1
3
8
.

Fabb
Apr 9, 2005, 6:02 PM
138 floors ?
Are you making this up ?

Aboveday
Apr 10, 2005, 5:22 PM
Yes, 27 more floors for US7 . :)

Aboveday
Apr 10, 2005, 5:25 PM
and some more...

http://www.micpix.de/gallery/data/media/26/TSTWest-04April05-3.jpg

and some 'closeups'

Union Square Tower (phase 7):
http://www.micpix.de/gallery/data/media/79/UnionSqTwr-Ph7-04April05-1.jpg


Phase 6:
http://www.micpix.de/gallery/data/media/148/US-Ph6-04April05-1.jpg


I also have no idea what is the name of the project north of Sorrento.
On centamap is no info yet. I took some pics from Jordan Road West, but i was too lazy to walk over to see any sign.
And it was damn windy at that day.

.

Images from SanMiguel .

Aboveday
Apr 10, 2005, 5:28 PM
http://www.micpix.de/gallery/data/media/26/TSTWest-04April05-1.jpg

http://www.micpix.de/gallery/data/media/26/TSTWest-04April05-2.jpg

Images from SanMiguel

Jonovision
Apr 10, 2005, 7:43 PM
Amazing pics. Its nice to have some overviews.

Fabb
Apr 10, 2005, 7:47 PM
Yes, 27 more floors for US7 . :)

Impossible. The plan seemed finalized long ago.

Real floors or pretended floors ?

coth
Apr 10, 2005, 9:40 PM
so, USP7 now is over the ground?

Rachmaninov
Apr 11, 2005, 1:53 AM
Yes it's over the ground
Aboveday where did you get that piece of information?

Jaroslaw
Apr 11, 2005, 2:47 AM
These are such amazing pics! Did San Miguel go up in a helicopter again?

Fabb
Apr 11, 2005, 7:13 AM
US is even more impressive from above.

Aboveday
Apr 11, 2005, 1:13 PM
Yes it's over the ground
Aboveday where did you get that piece of information?

9-4-2005 mingpo.;)

Rachmaninov
Apr 11, 2005, 1:15 PM
O my god! O MY GOD!!!

jose_kwan
Apr 11, 2005, 8:10 PM
will US7 still be completed in 2007 after adding those floor?