[markus1234]

Which metropolis of Europe fulfills the superlativ, itself in 20. Century to have most strongly changed? No doubt: This title is entitled to Warsaw. Only bomb release place, then fallow land, today Boomtown. A town with millions of inhabitants, for which nearly over night a silhouette of multistoried buildings arose. Certainly no idyllischer place, with which one falls in love at first sight. But beautiful cities are as well known boring. Which one cannot maintain from the quirligen capital of Poland now really. Only quite not of the types, which populate this city (and this book). Among them is a sociology student, who created a restaurant chain; a priest, who drives year by year in an old Mercedes to Rome, in order to remove Johannes Paul II. the Beichte; a German poet, who purged to the beautiful pole inside rescueless. Also of the former inhabitants of this city one experiences some: of Chopin and Popieluszko, of Szpilman and realm Ranicki, of rosa Luxembourg and the sayful Syrena (sea-virgin), which today only the stadtwappen ziert. Of Poland women are likewise a grateful topic. The twentieth century put a veil the heavy courage over this proud city. From Poland, Czeslaw Milosz sealed, is "wenig well-known abroad, because its mourning has neither hands nor Gesicht". The book of Gerhard Gnauck, Poland polen-Korrespondent of the WELT since 1999, treats also two different fall, which Warsaw in the world war experienced: that the once largest Jewish community of Europe and that the Polish metropolis altogether. But the life forwards and the time after the disaster held of writers, who come here to word: Heine, Doeblin and Singer, Szczypiorski and Stasiuk. Also of the relationship that Poland to the car, of their long march from the Wodka to the beer, of well-known politicians and of less well-known slot ears is to be read. Initially Gnauck asks whether Warsaw actually lies in Europe. Since 1 May this question might be settled. But one regards it dialectically: The metropolis lies also further a little in the east and a completely small little even in America. Why, this book betrays.


Gerhard Gnauck: Syrena auf dem Königsweg. Warschauer Wandlungen. Picus, Wien. 132 S., 13,90 EUR

http://www.welt.de/data/2004/05/08/274683.html?search=warschau&searchHILI=1

Welche Metropole Europas erfüllt den Superlativ, sich im 20. Jahrhundert am stärksten verändert zu haben? Kein Zweifel: Dieser Titel gebührt Warschau. Erst Bombenabwurfplatz, dann Brachland, heute Boomtown. Eine Millionenstadt, der fast über Nacht eine Silhouette von Hochhäusern erwachsen ist. Gewiss kein idyllischer Ort, in den man sich auf den ersten Blick verliebt. Doch schöne Städte sind bekanntlich langweilig. Was man von der quirligen Hauptstadt Polens nun wirklich nicht behaupten kann.

Erst recht nicht von den Typen, die diese Stadt (und dieses Buch) bevölkern. Darunter sind eine Soziologiestudentin, die eine Restaurantkette gegründet hat; ein Priester, der Jahr für Jahr in einem alten Mercedes nach Rom fährt, um Johannes Paul II. die Beichte abzunehmen; ein deutscher Dichter, der den schönen Polinnen rettungslos verfallen ist. Auch von den früheren Bewohnern dieser Stadt erfährt man einiges: von Chopin und Popieluszko, von Szpilman und Reich-Ranicki, von Rosa Luxemburg und der sagenhaften Syrena (Seejungfrau), welche heute nur noch das Stadtwappen ziert. Polens Frauen sind ebenfalls ein dankbares Thema.


Das zwanzigste Jahrhundert hat einen Schleier der Schwermut über diese stolze Stadt gelegt. Von Polen, dichtete Czeslaw Milosz, sei im Ausland "wenig bekannt, denn seine Trauer hat weder Hände noch Gesicht". Das Buch von Gerhard Gnauck, Polen-Korrespondent der WELT seit 1999, behandelt denn auch zweierlei Untergang, den Warschau im Weltkrieg erlebt hat: den der einst größten jüdischen Gemeinschaft Europas und den der polnischen Metropole insgesamt. Doch das Leben vor und die Zeit nach der Katastrophe wurden festgehalten von Schriftstellern, die hier zu Wort kommen: Heine, Döblin und Singer, Szczypiorski und Stasiuk. Auch vom Verhältnis der Polen zum Auto, von ihrem langen Marsch vom Wodka zum Bier, von bekannten Politikern und von weniger bekannten Schlitzohren ist zu lesen. Eingangs fragt Gnauck, ob Warschau tatsächlich in Europa liege. Seit dem 1. Mai dürfte diese Frage erledigt sein. Doch betrachte man es dialektisch: Die Metropole liegt auch weiterhin ein bisschen im Osten und ein ganz klein bisschen sogar in Amerika. Warum, verrät dieses Buch.

[SoboleuS]

The translation isn't perfect ;) but it's nice to see this kind of articles.



Some examples of boom in Warsaw:

Golden Terraces (big shopping center + office tower (115 m):

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/zt06.jpg

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image5.jpg

http://www.xsi.co.za/hackunion/a10.jpg

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/tarasy.jpg

Rondo 1 (194 m)

http://www.budinfo.pl/grafika/image5463.JPG

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/rondo01.jpg

http://www.rondo1.pl/siteview/siteview_2.jpg


Arkadia Shopping Center:

http://wawka.republika.pl/ar2.jpg

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=182744&quality=50&identifier=b12f77ee80&maxpixel

Centrum Zelazna (85 m):

http://www.warsaw3d.com/zel2-web.jpg

(no photos of construction site :dunno: )


Lucka City (105 m):

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/lucka02.jpg

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/yaros/yaros/040316_101-0119_IMGn.jpg

Centrum Grzybowska (Hilton Hotel + office and apartment buildings - about 90 m)

http://www.kir-architekci.com/katalog/wybrane/koncepcje/grzybowska_centrum/pages/2.jpg

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/gc04.jpg

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/pafcio/04.04/hilton2.jpg

Centrum Jasna

http://www.fdi.i5.pl/yaros/yaros/040316_101-0139_IMGn.jpg
:D

[markus1234]

soboleus i translated it with http://babelfish.altavista.com/ ;)

[SoboleuS]

soboleus i translated it with http://babelfish.altavista.com/ ;)
But you should correct some errors ;)

[Grumpy]

After London the boomtown of Europe , no doubt about it .
Even the 2nd best skyline too.

Where is Frankfurt....sleeping since ages :D

[The Dear Leader]

Wow, those are giant buildings. Then again, what else do you expect from a country with a large population of giants?

[Grumpy]

Before "Zlote Tarasy" was U/C , what was built on that site ?

[treds]

Nothing. It was just a parking lot:

<IMG SRC="http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/zt03.jpg" ALT="FailText" BORDER=x WIDTH=100%

http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/1.jpg
photo by clerykucjo. hosted by WaRR.


That bigger parking lot you can see further back will also be built over in the future -- the only reason an investor hasn't been able to yet is because ownership of parts of the plot is still in dispute.

[Grumpy]

I would like to know how many buildings have been built in Warsaw since the last 10 years + a list of those who are built and U/C

[SoboleuS]

I would like to know how many buildings have been built in Warsaw since the last 10 years + a list of those who are built and U/C
I'll try, but it's almost impossible to count them all (That's why I'll make the list only for central part of the city)
1991:
-Blue Tower (construction started in 1975 ;))
-Holiday Inn Hotel
-City Center (small shopping center)
1992:
-Mercure Hotel
1993:
-IPC Business Center
-Warsaw Corporate Center
-IPC B.C.
1994:
-Pekao Tower
1995:
-Atrium B.C.
-Aktyn B.C.
-CPN
1996:
-Sheraton Hotel
-FIM Tower
-Ilmet Tower
-Mokotow Business Park (the first building, at this moment there are about 10 buildings and new ones are U/C)
1997:
-Atrium Tower
-Jablonowski Palace (reconstruction of historic building with modern offices inside)
-Norway House
1998:
-Zielna Point
-Holland Park
-Solec 22
-Kaskada
-Sienna Center
-Warsaw Financial Center
-Centrum Finansowe Pulawska
-Praska Dominanta
1999:
-New University Library
-New Supreme Court
-Reform Plaza
-Nautilius
-Saski Point
-Bankowy Fundusz Gwarancyjny
-Europlex
2000:
-Warsaw Trade Tower
-Stock Exchange Center
-Nordic Park
-Warsaw Towers
-Roma Office Center
-Raiffeisen B.C.
-Stratos
-PZU Tower
-Wspólna 47 (Mahler)
-Focus
-Centrum Millenium
-Aurum
-Warta Tower
-Renaissance Tower
-Bliski Centrum
-City Gate
2001:
-Atrium North
-West Gate
-Blue Point
-TPSA Moniuszki
2002:
-Babka Tower
-Radisson Hotel
-TPSA Tower
-Agora
-Centrum Krolewska
-Kredyt Bank
-BTC Metro
-Euro Centrum 1
-Embassy of Canada
-Reprograf
-Hyatt Hotel
-Hotel Gromada
2003:
-Metropolitan
-Westin Hotel
-Intercontinental Hotel
-International B.C.
-PAP (Liberty Corner)
-Saski Crescent
-Rialto Hotel
-Ujazdowskie 10
-Marszalkowska 76
-Ibis Hotel
2004:
-Articom Center
-Campanile Hotels
-Blue City

U/C
-Rondo1
-Golden Terraces
-Lucka City
-Centrum Jasna
-Hilton Hotel
-Centrum Zelazna
-Arkadia
-Piekna 24
-Karowa
-Zielna 37
-TVP
-Crown Point

I probably missed some buildings ;) :D

[marek12]

soboleus...

just post some warsaw pics from the 70's 80's...and one new panorama...

[SoboleuS]

soboleus...

just post some warsaw pics from the 70's 80's...and one new panorama...
Good idea, but it's really hard to find panoramas of communist Warsaw ;) Maybe you have some?

[Grumpy]

@ SoboleuS , thanks for the list :tup:

[Jonas]

Whole eastern Europe is developing by building shopping centres and residentials. And all of it stands on foreign loans and leasings. there is nothing to be proud of.

the interesting fact is that nearly all projects and actually all major projects are being developed using loans and leasings from local banks and funds, and another interesting thing is that the major supermarket chain (occupying about 25% of whole retail market) is 100% of local capital :)
just to correct your last sentence. I'm talking about Lithuania.

[Jonas]

1991:
-Blue Tower (construction started in 1975 ;))


interesting fact, I didn't know that, I like that tower. Is there any material of how it was supposed to look like in those times? Was the project changed or is this the original project which now is built?

[SoboleuS]

1991:
-Blue Tower (construction started in 1975 ;))


interesting fact, I didn't know that, I like that tower. Is there any material of how it was supposed to look like in those times? Was the project changed or is this the original project which now is built?
I don't have photos, but in communist times the tower was covered by a golden glass and completely unfinished inside (because of lack of money, of course ;)) After the collapse of communism the construction was finished by Yugoslavians :) and the tower changed its colour ;)

[Dziki REX]

Construction of Rondo1 office above 160m
http://62.29.248.133/chris/warsaw/pictures/0850b.jpg

At first plane construction of two apartmental higrises, didn’t mentioned before.
http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/widokcentrum18.jpg
http://www.apartament.pl/img/z/293599-widok2.jpg

On the left side construction of Golden Terraces 105m
http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/rondo.jpg

Warsaw today
http://www.ziolek.pl/foto/warszawy/10.jpg

[DocentX]

Warsaw

2004:

http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Tapety/tapeta27.jpg http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Tapety/tapeta29.jpg

2006:

http://yanme.fm.interia.pl/rrr.jpg

[marek12]

http://community.webshots.com/s/image8/9/47/79/116794779LYLJpu_fs.jpg

[st.petr]

At first plane construction of two apartmental higrises, didn’t mentioned before.
http://www.autolider.pl/warszawa/Zdjecia/widokcentrum18.jpg
http://www.apartament.pl/img/z/293599-widok2.jpg
It's not the same investment. Thiese are 2 different investments in the same area, both U/C.
EDIT:Rendering of the investment from the first pic
http://www.apartament.pl/img/z/286917-Inflancka3.jpg
http://www.apartament.pl/img/z/286920-Inflancka4.jpg

[Fabb]

Despite the construction boom, the stanisnist building is still the tallest building.
For how long ?

[marek12]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/unbenannt.jpg

[marek12]

.

[st.petr]

Despite the construction boom, the stanisnist building is still the tallest building.
For how long ?
You should ask yourself the question for how long ugly Montparnasse tower will be the tallest skyscraper in Paris.

[st.petr]

Warsaw constructiom update by Arek and kafarek:

Rondo 1
http://www.republika.pl/arekkj1983/06.06.2004/0005.jpg
http://www.ee.pw.edu.pl/~daniszem/zlotetarasy/P1010011.JPG

Golden Terraces
http://www.ee.pw.edu.pl/~daniszem/zlotetarasy/P1010020.JPG
http://www.ee.pw.edu.pl/~daniszem/zlotetarasy/P1010048.JPG

[st.petr]

G.T. by @Jedlinio:
http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/jedlinio/4.jpg

[DocentX]

New Warsaw city center ( construction should start next year ) :

http://www.rzeczpospolita.pl/teksty/wydanie_031113/kraj_a_1-1.F.jpg

http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_01.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_02.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_03.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_04.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_05.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_06.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_08.jpg http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/filmy/ncw_09.jpg

[Dziki REX]

One more photo of warsaw today. I don’t live in Warsaw. I never even was in Warsaw but photos like this are marvelous. This city in the last 15 years changed almost completely except the good things which now are even more beautiful.
http://republika.pl/drex4/images/panora.jpg

By the way, this renders above looks like screens from the movie visualization of new center. Is there any link to that movie? I hope that architecture of this buildings would be in fact much better than what the city has prepared as example of future shape of this place.

[DocentX]

By the way, this renders above looks like screens from the movie visualization of new center. Is there any link to that movie? I hope that architecture of this buildings would be in fact much better than what the city has prepared as example of future shape of this place.

Yes, You are right- this is only a vision of the future center and not the final design of the building. We can see that there will be some buildings in the "old style" and some "futuristic" buildings.

Here You have link if You would like to see the visualization of new center:

http://www.e-warsaw.pl/offers/

[coth]

beautiful mix of colors
http://members.rogers.com/wiezowce/rondo.jpg

[Grumpy]

The project proposed as the new city centre is giving me some problems cause I believe it will ruin the majesty of PKiN imo.
Should be left the way it is now as a green corridor in the city centre

[st.petr]

The project proposed as the new city centre is giving me some problems cause I believe it will ruin the majesty of PKiN imo.
Should be left the way it is now as a green corridor in the city centre
It's more important we will have normal city center in Warsaw at last.

[Dziki REX]

The problem is that you both have right heh.

[TurkPower]

http://wowturkey.com/tr15/xAnil_movenpickten_canyon.jpg
http://wowturkey.com/tr15/xAnil_leventte_yuruyus4.jpg

[st.petr]

Lepiej, ¿eby nikt z Polski nie odpowiada³ na t¹ prowokacjê, bo to lylko zachêci go do dalszych.

[PaulzAdelaide]

Kurwa Turek psuje nam thread ...nie moze na swoim thread te obrazki wklejac??
Turk Power post your pics on your thread ....please dont ruin other people threads

[treds]

The project proposed as the new city centre is giving me some problems cause I believe it will ruin the majesty of PKiN imo.
Should be left the way it is now as a green corridor in the city centre

Don't you think it's rather a shame that there's a huge plot of nothing in the center of a European capital? The square around the PKiN is a communist idea -- it's even named "Plac Defilad" (Military Parades Square), which sounds inappropriate to most people today. After building over it, it'll become a part of Warsaw that will be alive 24 hours a day. Now it's just nothing. Such valuable land too!

[Grumpy]

@ swede , could you move those Istanbul pictures cause they have nothing to do with this topic !


@ st.petr , what is a normal city centre in your opinion ?

[st.petr]

@ st.petr , what is a normal city centre in your opinion ?
Not gigantic place with gigantic building in the center but streets with buildings on both sides with flats, offices, restaurants, bars, markets, galleries and etc. That's normal structure of European city I think.

[Grumpy]

^^ now I know what you mean , you are not that pleased with the PKiN building !

I fully agree with your idea ;)

[st.petr]

I'm glad you have understanding for my point @Grumpy.:)

[Swede]

@TurkPower - why did you post those here? If you want to post pics of Istanbul so so in a thread of its own, not in one about Warzawa. Don't do it again.

[Grumpy]

places like this should be open to the public to enjoy the skyline !

http://republika.pl/drex4/images/panora.jpg

or is there a kind of this on top of Rondo or Zloty Terasy when finished ?

[st.petr]

I haven't heard about such a plans.

[SoboleuS]

The glass dome of Zlote Tarasy is now U/C:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2123/z2123253G.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2123/z2123255G.jpg

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Plany/zt06.jpg



And some info about this strange structure ;)

area: 10 200 square meters
weight: 1 400 tons
It will be made of 4780 triangles of glass and 7120 steel beams :nuts:

Designer: Johann Sishka

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2123/z2123827G.jpg

[SoboleuS]

BTW: Not only Warsaw is booming:

Polish economy posts 7 year growth record

Warsaw, Poland, Jun. 9 (UPI) -- The Polish economy grew by 6.9 percent year-on-year in the first quarter of 2004, official figures showed Wednesday.

The growth was above expectations and marked the fastest pace of gross domestic product development in seven years.

Economists said they now expected Poland to grow at a year-on-year rate of around 6 percent for the full year.

Poland, with a population of nearly 40 million, is as big as all the other nine countries combined, which also joined the European Union May 1.

Economic growth is heavily export driven with Poland's main markets being in the older members of the European Union such as Germany and France.

Strong growth in the Polish economy has heightened expectations of interest rate hikes from the central bank, which has already indicated it is concerned about the prospect of the economy overheating. Poland needs strong growth to help bring down an unemployment rate which stands at around 20 percent.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040609-123238-4385r.htm

Here you can see the highs and lows of Polish growth in last years:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2123/m2123893.jpg

[st.petr]

Another addition to discussion.
Warsaw 89,9+ ;) highrises since 1998:
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?6454771

[st.petr]

A new rendering of Hilton Plaza:

http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/wizualizacja_hilt.jpg
http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/inter_hilton_przek.gif
http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/inter_hilton_rzut.gif

The entire complex:
http://www.architektura-murator.pl/images/inter_hilton_syt2.gif

According to www.architektura-murator.pl monthly it would have 26 storeys plus 1 technical storey - all 91 m.

[coth]

not so tall:(

[st.petr]

not so tall:(
Yes :( but I like it's plain and clear design.

[st.petr]

Terminal 2 of the Warsaw Okecie Airport U/C. It will be complete at the end of 2005. Both terminals I & II will be serving 12 million passengers annualy.

http://www.zdjeciacudaka.pulsnet.pl/Rozne/okecie.jpg

http://www.floornature.com/worldaround/img_news/news401_2_popup.jpg

http://wawka.republika.pl/okecie02.jpg

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=244936&quality=50&identifier=31a1a31a1e

[marek12]

http://real.daserste.de/real.asp?moma/040630_4_28.rm

warsaw video

[Grumpy]

the Hilton looks marvelous , elegant building !

How many buildings are there U/C in Warszawa at this moment ?
I have lost count ;)

[marek12]

..

[doc]

WARSAW IS DESTINED TO BECAME BEAUTIFUL EUROPEAN
YET DISTINCTIVELY POLISH CITY AS SHE WAS BEFORE
THE WAR. WARSOWIANS DOING GREAT JOB AND THEY TRULY DESERVED IT (MIND ALMOST TOTAL DESTRUCTION DURING WAR AND YEARS OF COMMUNIST RULE)
keep the good job guys
p.s. THIS ONE COMING FROM RUSSIAN :)

[Grumpy]

So the Hilton project containes 4 new buildings ; what are the other 3 ?

[Jared]

that hilton project looks good, Warsaw needs a bunch more urban infill projects

[marek12]

here is the thread about the whole project called "centrum grzybowska" with brandnew photos and info.

http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=1799885#post1799885

...by the way. on the 2nd rendering ,there are two other projects missing.. Lucka city (it stands where the 2 yellow cranes are) and another highrise (centrum zelazna..look at the 1st rendering..there is a green line ,thats the place where it will be built) .

[JBinCalgary]

warsaw keeps getting better and better

[marek12]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/rondo.jpg

[DocentX]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/rondo.jpg

the photo with rendering of Rondo 1 and Zlote Tarasy is amazing :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Grumpy]

the gaps are getting filled up here , great !!

[marek12]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/hotttt/zentrum.jpg

[Grumpy]

who has renderings of the inside of the Tarasy Zloty ?

[DocentX]

who has renderings of the inside of the Tarasy Zloty ?

I know this rendering:

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image6.jpg

[Bagsik]

Webcams: http://194.181.106.181/ - http://217.153.33.158/

http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/images_galery/image9.jpg

More info on: http://www.zlotetarasy.pl/english_site/index_english.htm

[DocentX]

Proposals for Pilsudskiego square in WARSAW
(constr. of the palaces will start next year and should be finished in 2007) :

square today:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245955G.jpg

proposal of the French firm Bouygues:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245956G.jpg

proposal of Hungarian Trigrant:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245957G.jpg

very interesting proposal by Buelens Real Estate (firm from Belgium) -
glass columns:

http://bi.gazeta.pl//im/2245/z2245958G.jpg

[Grumpy]

@ DocentX and bagsik : thank you :tup:

[DocentX]

Rondo 1

by @sojuz:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285635&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=345a900853

Zelazna centrum:

http://www.redwood.pl/pliki/frames/graph/zelazna1.jpg

by @sojuz:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285632&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=a884d8cfce

Grzybowska centrum:

by @sojuz:

http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285637&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=bbfdcaaa07 http://www.startbilder.de/einzelbild.php?id=285638&quality=80&maxpixel=800&identifier=cf2260cb95

Zlote Tarasy:

by @svir:

http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/NG1.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/NG8.jpg http://www.svir.neostrada.pl/ZT10.jpg

[Grumpy]

Are the low and highrise of the Zelazna centrum one project and what is their purpose : houses and offices or otherwise ?

[tim]

After London the boomtown of Europe , no doubt about it .
Even the 2nd best skyline too.

Where is Frankfurt....sleeping since ages :D



:haha: idiotic

[Grumpy]

^^ you need to update yourself :hilarious

[blitzkrieg]

dont get me wrong, warsaw has a very nice skyline and all but second best in europe? i think you need to look at some frankfurt and paris skyline pictures, grumpy, because you seem to be 'slightly' out of touch with reality in my opinion :)

[wisla_krakow]

Paris? Maybe Frankfurt.

[Grumpy]

dont get me wrong, warsaw has a very nice skyline and all but second best in europe? i think you need to look at some frankfurt and paris skyline pictures, grumpy, because you seem to be 'slightly' out of touch with reality in my opinion :)

I am only refering to the way how fast this city is changing.
Cities like Frankfurt and Paris do have a great skyline but there is not much happening to add spectacular buildings to their skylines.
Only London is skyrocketing and can be easely compared to the biggest American cities.

I hope I made my point more clear , so my top 5 from European cities with huge buildings U/C :

1. London
2. Warsaw
3. Moscow
4. Barcelona
5. Rotterdam
5.

[wisla_krakow]

London has a few under construction but a lot approved. Warsawa has more u/c.

[Dziki REX]

http://100tka.net/~dziki/wawa/r1.jpg
http://100tka.net/~dziki/foto/rondo1xx.jpg

[wisla_krakow]

Are those both renderings?

[marek12]

http://www.kapif.pl/press3/wydarzenie.php?wydarzenie=5084&token=

[Dziki REX]

Are those both renderings?

Yes, my works :)

[Grumpy]

Any news from Warszawa ?

[marek12]

http://community.webshots.com/album/196065839gSKkQB/6

http://community.webshots.com/album/196065839gSKkQB/3

[Grumpy]

I meant new proposals

[st.petr]

porobably the longest thread here :P

[Agram]

Great projects making Warsaw one of Europes largest construction sites.

[Grumpy]

how is the actual situation on Zlote Tarasy ?

[st.petr]

^^^^
by paolo 2005.04.24
http://strony.aster.pl/aligapa/20050424%20zt1.jpg

opposite side of the tower
by msweb
http://nationframe.com/misc/waw/april/3.jpg

facade on the lower twin office buildings
by sojuz 2005.04.30
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/sajuz/soju001.jpg

EDIT glass dome by hugwawa
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/hugwawa/warsaw/ll.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/hugwawa/warsaw/jj.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/hugwawa/warsaw/mm.jpg

[Mikael]

Great pictures, especially the second one

[SoboleuS]

Some new projects for Warsaw Downtown:

Office building at Warynski Street (about 60 meteres tall)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5236/plany35wy.jpg

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/4847/plany24hl.jpg

Office building at Piekna Street:

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9077/plany13fu.jpg

Office building at Nowogrodzka Street (70 meters tall)
It will be located near Millenium (Reform) Plaza

http://www.apa.com.pl/projekty_ilustracje/247_d.jpg

[st.petr]

approved project: Marszalkowska/Zurawia Street office building

developer: Wolf Immobilien Polen

http://www.michau.se/pics/other_pics/warszawa/projekty/wolf_marszalkowska/wolf_marszalkowska_1.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/other_pics/warszawa/projekty/wolf_marszalkowska/wolf_marszalkowska_2.jpg
http://www.michau.se/pics/other_pics/warszawa/projekty/wolf_marszalkowska/wolf_marszalkowska_6.jpg

[st.petr]

Project: Grzybowska Park

Location address: Warsaw, Grzybowska Str.

Project description: Landmark class A office development. Seven-storey building with a typical floor plate of approx. 1,330 m². It offers prestigious location, high standard technical specifications and efficiency of design.

Total size: Over 9,800 m²

Total rentable area: Over 9,800 m²

Status: Under development

Completion Date: The year 2006

Location: The project is located in the very heart of Warsaw Central Business District. It provides convenient access to public transportation means as well as hotels, retail, restaurants, banks and other business facilities.
Technical Specifications: The building will be equipped, among others, with: suspended ceilings, raised floors, high quality finishes, modern telecommunication and security systems, efficient floor plates, fan coil HVAC system, BMS, 68 secured parking places, internal cafeteria, coffee point.


http://www.aiglincoln.com/imglib/504cb146http://www.aiglincoln.com/imglib/da79b32d


http://www.aiglincoln.com/imglib/2e695819


http://www.aiglincoln.com/imglib/771be63c

[st.petr]

IO-1: Office Building Niepodleglosci/Pulawska Street U/C

International class A Office building, situated in Mokotov, the business district in Warsaw (10 minutes from the airport, 15 minutes from city centre).
Leaseable office areas from 150 m² up to 1800 m².
High rised floor, fully air conditioned, high speed elevators, 7 days/24 hours security service.
In house shops, restaurant and meeting areas. Tenant and facility management.

GFA above ground level: 28.953 m²
GFA under ground level: 9.749 m²
GFA 38.702 m²
Basements: 3

Lettable area: € 23.672 m²
Average rent: € 14,80/m²/month
Building price: € 1.044,00/m²
Yield 10,75%

http://www.universale-int.com/english/big_io_1.jpg

[downtown_meltdown]

What I would really be looking forward to, is a building taller than the PKiN. A skyscraper 300, or more meters tall (The palace is 237,5 meters tall). The possible sites could be Chmielna street (opposite ZÅ‚ote Tarasy), or the site near ONZ roundabout (cancelled Atrium South site). Instead of building three or four office centres, one huge building could be erected, leaving precious space for future development. Does anyone know if such plans were ever conceived? I saw a picture portraying a 380-meter-tall building dwarfing the PKiN in Gazeta Wyborcza once, but that's it. I haven't heard about it since.

[Grumpy]

thanks for the Zlote Tarasy pictures.
it seems the construction is still going strong over there , that's great news

[Mike K.]

Zlote Tarasy, bez wontpliwosci, jest jieden z najpiejkniejszich budynkow w Europie.

[SoboleuS]

"Small" update ;)

Rondo1

by Paolo:

http://warsaw.aplus.pl/images/20050628%20rondo1.jpg

by piortek:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b33/piortek/tri.jpg


by michau:

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050703_z_zzb2/050703_z_zzb2_0801_cl.jpg

by rcube:


http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/R_1/obrazek008.jpg



http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/R_1/obrazek012.jpg

http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/R_1/obrazek064.jpg

Golden Terraces by michau:

Views from Intercontinental:

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050703_z_ic/050703_z_ic_0657.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050703_z_ic/050703_z_ic_0664.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050703_z_ic/050703_z_ic_0663.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050703_z_ic/050703_z_ic_0668.jpg

Views form Marriot:

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050705_z_marriotta/050705_z_marriotta_0945.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050705_z_marriotta/050705_z_marriotta_0941.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050705_z_marriotta/050705_z_marriotta_0941_cl.jpg

http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050705_z_marriotta/050705_z_marriotta_0945_cl.jpg


http://www.michau.se/pics/my_pics/warszawa/2005/050705_z_marriotta/050705_z_marriotta_0906.jpg

and photo by kafarek:

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/5811/zt3wu.jpg

Hilton by rcube:

http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/Grzybowska/obrazek048.jpg

http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/Grzybowska/obrazek053.jpg

http://www.pjwstk.edu.pl/~s2778/Grzybowska/obrazek060.jpg



:cool:

[Grumpy]

euh , any new skyscrapers planned or proposed ? :D

[SoboleuS]

euh , any new skyscrapers planned or proposed ? :D
Many new residential towers will be built in Wola district (between Hilton and Westin)
And there are rumours about new skyscraper on Zlota Street (between Golden Terraces and Intercontinental) which will be designed by Daniel Libeskind :D

[Grumpy]

Many new residential towers will be built in Wola district (between Hilton and Westin)
And there are rumours about new skyscraper on Zlota Street (between Golden Terraces and Intercontinental) which will be designed by Daniel Libeskind :D

any renderings available ?

or/and

an update of the buildings U/C ?

[wisla_krakow]

Wonderful. I haven't visited this thread for a year. :)

I might have the chance next year to go and visit Poland once again, and this time I will surely visit Warszawa.