[dchen]

For those who are fans of Shanghai skyscrapers, I have list of new buildings to expect in the time frame of 2004 and 2005.

Quite firm projects:
1. Lujiazui X3-2, 200m, designed by Pei Partnership Archtects
2. Lujiazui D3-5 (Itochu Development Tower), 123m
3. Lujiazui X2 (SHKP), at least 250m
4. Lujiazui B4-3 (Havana Hotel), 120m

There are also projects talked for some time but no confirmed info.
1. Shimao New City in North Bund, 100m twin towers?
I heard there are uncertainties about this plan.
2. North Bund Tower
3. 200m tower in Taipingqiao area
4. Rockefeller Tower
5. Concord Square (3 200m+ buildings in Jinan)

Any other new projects you are aware?

[Lecom]

At least the stuff isn't halted due to the skyscraper ban thing in Shanghai.

[avcellvs]

About the Lujiazui-Itochu Development Building (http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=42479), do you know if it will be build? Such a long time since its status is "on hold" do you have details about its coming construction?

Any news about the 21th Century Mansion (http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35963)? Same thing, it is "on hold" since so many years...

Is there any mention of the Future Dome (http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42789) in the Shanghai press ? A typical prestigious "World Expo monument" that could really see the light I guess.

Did you noticed that on the North Bund bank, a giant painting representing a rendering of the future area has been exposed since mid-april? Could it be a sign construction is about to begin there?

http://community.webshots.com/s/image8/0/17/2/141101702EFVTBQ_ph.jpg
Full resolution :
http://community.webshots.com/s/image8/0/17/2/141101702EFVTBQ_fs.jpg

[dchen]

1. I read one news that Itochu has sold its shares to Lujiazui Development recently. In the same news it claim that the building will be built.
2. No idea about 21th Century Mansion at all. The foundation was done in 2000.
3. The Future Dome is very new... not even exposed in local media. But we should not rule it out in the revamped World Expo planning. E.g. the bridge was just recently cancelled.
4. For North Bund, it seems it's quite complicated between the developers and the government... Shimao is now only partially in the plan..., probably still has rights to develop on 1/3 of plot. It says the government is talking to no less than 10 developers now.

[ztopp]

How about the pyramid shaped stadium (which includes a hotel) that has been approved by the government? I heard it's over 200m tall.....and there's a thread of it somewhere on this forum.

[Fabb]

There are also projects talked for some time but no confirmed info.
1. Shimao New City in North Bund, 100m twin towers?
I heard there are uncertainties about this plan.
2. North Bund Tower
3. 200m tower in Taipingqiao area
4. Rockefeller Tower
5. Concord Square (3 200m+ buildings in Jinan)


What's Rockefeller doing in Shanghai ?

[avcellvs]

The Rockefeller Center is planned in the Huangpu district somewhere in between the Bund and the Shimao International Plaza, no more details are known by now. Depending on its height, it might have a important impact on the Bund skyline :


This article appeared in ‘Focus Property’ – Shanghai Daily Newspaper, August 05, 2003

Rockefeller eyes Nanjing Road E


US-based conglomerate Rockefeller Group plans to build a landmark building on Nanjing Rd. E, where the group’s Southeast Asian headquarters will be located, source with Huangpu District government said.

Rockefeller is discussing with the district government an investment plan for the northern part of Nanjing Rd. E. between Jiangxi Rd. M and Henan Rd. M, said an official with the Huangpu District government who asked not to be identified.

‘The Rockefeller Group hopes to create a landmark building on China’s famous commercial center, Nanjing Rd. said the official ‘The name of the building is likely to be Rockfeller Center.’

The complex will include offices and shopping areas, he added.

Rockfeller will buy the land where Hengdeli Clock and Watch Store is currently located as it hopes to establish itself at the expensive location for future development, according to the official.

The price of the land is not disclosed.


An analyst said Rockfeller is banking on the potential value of Nanjing Rd. E, and its arrival is sure to attract more of the world’s top investors to the area and drive up land prices and rents I the area.

‘Rockfeller ‘s move shows Shanghai’s status as an international metropolis is recognized among overseas investors,’ said Jiang Xinguo, a senior researcher with Shanghai Zaihang Estate Investment Consults Co Ltd.

‘The current value of the shopping area has reached a world level for an international metropolis,’ he added. ‘The arrival of the world top brands with make the shopping area more valuable.’

Meanwhile, two of the world’s top brands, Lotus Vuitton and Christian Dior, are in talks to open flagship stores at Shanghai’s historic Peace Hotel, located a the crossroads of Nanjing E and the Bund.

The hotel is in talks with Hong Kong-based Oriental Mandarin Hotel on the project.

[Beyond 1000]

One skyscraper NOT expected in the near future is.....................................drum roll please..................................................Shanghai World Financial Center. :laugh:

[Islander]

edit: nevermind

[avcellvs]

About the North Bund 100m twin towers, I found this web page on the Shimao group web. Several bigger renderings of this project had been posted earlier on the Projects forum. The plot has been cleared quite long ago, what stops construction from begining?

http://www.shimaogroup.com/english/beiwaitan/layout.htm

[avcellvs]

News of SHKP Lujiazui project (june 18th 2004, from Kingsway Financial Services Group Ltd) :

A plan by SHKP to develop an HK$8bn hotel-retail-office project in Shanghai’s financial district could face delays, as the tenants are refusing to leave until the original owner Lujiazui Finance compensates them. The negotiations are still ongoing and SHKP said they are not involved in relocation of tenants.

[dchen]

I walked by the food square this morning. What I saw seems confirming the report above. The some restaurants along the northern side (facing Oriental Pearl Tower) of the food square still have their first floor open, even then upper floors look abandoned. The new regulation regulates such relocation processes, which makes demolishing of existing buildings more difficult.

[avcellvs]

I'm not sure the intention is to demolish the whole Food Court right now. It has been announced the project will be build in several phases (three, I guess) so maybe they will just clear the south-west corner of the block. This could be enough for a first constructible plot.

http://community.webshots.com/s/image8/5/84/84/148658484bOvjIr_ph.jpg
Full resolution :
http://community.webshots.com/s/image8/5/84/84/148658484bOvjIr_fs.jpg

[avcellvs]

dchen, I think something might be under preparing on plot B3-6. According to the Lujiazui official web guide line, a 200m high building is planned there.

But we won't see it rise because the view from the Oriental Pearl observation deck will soon be totally barred by the AZIA center. And I don't think we'll be able to view it from the JinMao neither :(

[avcellvs]

First rendering of the SHKP project for the plots X2 block. A really tiny one, I wish I could find something more detailled.

http://www.shkp.com.hk/images/otherb/luijizhui.jpg

dchen your 250m high prediction seems correct

I don't know if this is the whole project or just the first phase rendering (3 construction phases, with final completion in 2011).

Too bad there is this midrise (just right to the JinMao) which unfortunatly seems to be part of the project and this big gap in between the two other towers (twins?) is it definitive.

[avcellvs]

Page 2 of this SHKP PDF document (http://www.shkp.com.hk/eng/investor/report/download/ar2003/F111.pdf) you'll find a higher resolution version of the rendering I posted this morning. Not any complementary information.

Who is the architect ?
Is it just a guide line concept or the definitive project ?
Is it a bicephal highrise or twins towers?
Are there transparencies in the 3 buildings summits ?
What do you think ?

[Fabb]

First rendering of the SHKP project for the plots X2 block. A really tiny one, I wish I could find something more detailled.

http://www.shkp.com.hk/images/otherb/luijizhui.jpg

dchen your 250m high prediction seems correct



Judging by the above rendering, I'd say 280 m or more.
I don't know if I get it right though.

[vincent]

dchen and avcellvs, do you have a map of the pudong area that shows all the plots with the number thing on (those D3-5, B4-3 thing) and hopefully the name of the buildings too in each plot.

[avcellvs]

You'll find a clikeable version of this map, with some more details, on the Lujiazui financial zone official site (http://www.shld.com/develop/xljz/xljz.htm)

http://www.shld.com/develop/xljz/images/xljzmap.gif

[vincent]

thanks, do you have a larger version? i can't read some of the label there.

[avcellvs]

No, sorry that's all I have.

The North Bund twin towers are now under construction now so I started a new thread in the "under construction" forum.

[y3miii]

One skyscraper NOT expected in the near future is.....................................drum roll please..................................................Shanghai World Financial Center. :laugh:

ummm........http://photos2.worldisround.com/photos/3/550/420_o.jpg

:)

http://forum.cameraunion.net/upload/545/54574/54574_1089011821.jpg

[avcellvs]

About the SHKP project, the Food Center destruction seems to progress.
Anyone in Shanghai to tell us how much of it is destroyed now?
Does somebody has more detailled renderings of the complex ?

[avcellvs]

From SHKP news section, july 27th 2004 :

Starwood and Sun Hung Kai Properties have signed a letter of agreement to develop a W Hotel in Lujiazui, the financial district in Pudong district, Shanghai.

[avcellvs]

August 2nd 2004, from the Oriental Pearl. Not a great pic but a view on a part of the X-2plots block : destruction of the Food Center has progressed, construction of the SHKP complex is nearing.

http://community.webshots.com/s/image14/3/93/21/169339321WRpmYs_fs.jpg


dchen informed us about the Hongyi building in Nanjing street. 147m 29 floors (the average height in this part of the city). There is rendering on the yard pallisade.

http://community.webshots.com/s/image2/8/33/49/166583349keQbQT_fs.jpg



Shanghigh also announced the imminent construction of the 180 m Hopson Plaza in Lujiazui, next to the under construction Shangri-La Hotel extension

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/570/2278mini-img_1408.jpg

[avcellvs]

dchen or Shanghigh did you hear about this project. It looks like a potential 300 m tower, its location is not specified.

from http://www.building.com.hk/todaynews/tnw2004_03.html :

(SHANGHAI - 29 March 2004)
TIPS China Building to be built in Shanghai

The China Branch of the United Nations Development Programme Technology Information Promotion System (TIPS) has commissioned the construction of TIPS China Building in Shanghai. The 67-storey building will occupy a 47,000 sq m site and will have a construction area of 250,000 sq m.

TIPS China Building will provide office, commercial, exhibition and conference facilities to international organisations and institutions engaging in the promotion of technology information. The building will be equipped with a highly advanced air filtration system imported from overseas and an advanced anti-terrorism emergency system.

Total investment in the project is RMB2.5 billion (US$301.2 million) and the building is scheduled for completion at the end of 2008.

[Fabb]

This is great news.
Why aren't there more forumers excited about that ?

[dchen]

I heard this project earlier from cameraunion forum but could not be certain about the news since I can't find any other sources except that posting.

It's unlikely to reach 300m, unless it has a Shimao International type spire. As a comparison, Plaza 66 has 66 floors plus a glassy top at the height of 288m.

Thanks avcellvs for giving us this good news!

[calilover89]

This city has lot's of towers under construction.

[ztopp]

This city has lot's of towers under construction.

And how many exactly, we don't really know. Great news by the way.

[avcellvs]

Is there any news of the North Bund Tower? On last pix from the Oriental Pearl, you can't see some activities on the plot (diggers, pilling machines).
What will be its final height ? Originally it was supposed to be just a bit lower than the JinMao but some renderings show a shorter version too.

[avcellvs]

Do you have any information about this building under construction in JiuJiang Lu (just besides the Shimao International Plaza). It is already 20 floors high.

http://www.stokely.org/20040816-shanghai-cgb/DSC01263-small.JPG

High resolution : http://www.stokely.org/20040816-shanghai-cgb/DSC01263.JPG

[dchen]

A new posting at the cameraunion thread reveals more buildings u/c or to start soon.

1. X1-5, Hopson Plaza, 33f 180m, u/c
2. B2-5, Marryland, unknow floors and height, u/c
3. B3-5, Development Tower, 55f 265m, u/c
4. B1-1, B1-4, Ping An Financial Tower, 39f 170m, planned
5. X3-2, Unknown name (Pei Partnership Archtects), 48f 200m+, planned
6. B3-2, B3-4, China Merchants Bank, planned

Together with other buildings that we have already known u/c or planned,
1. B2-4, Shanghai Bank HQ, 46f 252m, topped out
2. B2-2, AZIA Tower, 36f 167.9m, topped out
3. X1-7, Citigroup Tower, 42f 180m, topped out
4. X1-4, Shangrila Extension, 38f 180m, topped out
5. B4-3, Havana Hotel, 28f 120m, u/c
6. B3-6, Jasper Tower, 48f 220m, u/c
7. Z4-1, SWFC, 101f 492m, u/c
8. D3-5, Itochu Development Tower, 123m, planned
9. X2-1,X2-2, SHKP Buildings, 3 buildings, >250m, planned

That counts totally 17 buidings. According to the same posting, most of the above buildings will complete before 2007. The skyline for Lujiazui will be more fantastic then.

The last unknown status building in Lujiazui is 21th Century Tower.

[avcellvs]

Really exciting news dchen ! I had seen this post in the WFC thread but as I don't read chinese, I was waiting for some sort of confirmation to what I understood.

- Development Tower 265 m, not bad ! This is higher than the 230 m Bank of China and Bocom. UNDER CONSTRUCTION ? Such a long time since I have not found views from the JinMao or the Oriental Pearl, does the construction has really already started ?

- SHKP project, plots X2-1, X2-2. Does this means these three buildings are only phase one of the development ? (approximatively half of the block)

- Is the Hopson Plaza under construction too ?


PS : dchen, I'll spend 3 weeks in Shanghai from october 26th (next tuesday) to november 15th. It could be fun to meet you and shanghigh and all the shanghai forumers if you have some time to. You can write me at this travel mail, I'll be checking it from my hotel when I'll get there :
a v c e l l v s @ y a h o o . f r (remove all spaces, archaic antispam technic...)

[dchen]

More photos posted in the cameraunion thread.

B2-5, Marryland, 41 floors and height, u/c

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1095/109572/109572_1098510267.jpg

[dchen]

X1-5, Hopson Plaza, 33f 180m, u/c

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1293/129322/129322_1098515404.jpg

[dchen]

Development Tower, 55f 265m, u/c

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1293/129322/129322_1098515568.jpg

[dchen]

B1-1, B1-4, Ping An Financial Tower, 39f 170m, planned
(one of the proposals)

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1293/129322/129322_1098515794.jpg

[dchen]

X2-1,X2-2, SHKP Buildings, 3 buildings, >250m, planned

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1293/129322/129322_1098515992.jpg

[dchen]

X3-2, Unknown name (Pei Partnership Architects), 48f 200m+, planned
(Earlier proposal)

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1095/109572/109572_1098525318.jpg

[dchen]

X3-2, Unknown name (Pei Partnership Archtects), 48f 200m+, planned
(Newer proposal)

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1293/129322/129322_1098544125.jpg

[dchen]

Lujiazui skyline rendering, Shangrila, Hopson and Aurora side by side!

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1095/109572/109572_1098530268.jpg

[Inspire]

Can you give a link to the cameraunion threa?

can't see the pics.

[avcellvs]

The Merryland tower is a disaster, it will ruin the beauty of this Lujiazui cluster. I can't believe they are really going to build this there. Not even a post modern building, it just look like old communist architecture, it would form a coherent pair with the Exhibition Centre in the Jingan district. A false old building in a 21th century skyline ! Are you sure this is the final rendering? Is there any hope this is just a now discarded proposal ? :help:

A very bad news for the Lujiazui zone developpment, indeed but thanks for the info dchen, just in time, while packing my bag, dynamite made its way to my check list. :hell:


The Pingan insurance building is a step ahead : disneyland architecture (probably just an haloween joke).


The Development tower looks promising, a nice companion to the Jasper tower. From this angle it bears more than a resemblance to Hong Kong IFC...


The Hopson Plaza is ok, soft angles and nice skin.

[avcellvs]

Can you give a link to the cameraunion threa?


These news come from the WFC thread : http://forum.cameraunion.net/showthread.php?threadid=221857&pagenumber=1

[ztopp]

Does anyone know the expected height for Marryland Tower?

[ztopp]

Does anyone know the expected height for Marryland Tower?

[dchen]

I once found a document staying Marryland Tower to be 175m at structure top. If consider the spire, it would be probably at or over 200m.

[dchen]

sorry, i meant "stating" :-(

[Fabb]

You should edit your post. It's easy...

Development Tower, 55f 265m, u/c

http://image.cameraunion.net/forum/upload/1293/129322/129322_1098515568.jpg

It's a very pelliesque tower.
Who designed it ?

Do you have more details (completion date, photos of the site, more renderings...) ?

[JACKinNYC]

Does it seem like Shanghai had several really cool buildings go up in the last few years, but now there's a lot of filler (square boxes) going up? I can only go by the photos I see.

[ENDOPHINS]

Plot X-2 SHKP Project :

Rendering :
http://www.shkp.com/zh-hk/images/mainland/pic_shanghai04.jpg

320m twins tower
about 70-storey :crazy:

Architect : Cesar Pelli

Site : 690,000 sq.f
GFA : 4,500,000 sq.f

-Grade-A office
-Services Apartment
-6 stars Hotel : 1,300 rooms
-Shopping mall
-2,000 parking lots

Phase 1 completion : 2007
Entire project completion : 2011

Reference :
http://www.irasia.com/listco/hk/shkp/press/cp030815.htm
Oriental Daily 10 November 2004

[Aboveday]

Very nice!

[some_stupid_nut]

Cool! Looks like US7 has some hot twin cousins over in Shanghai!

[avcellvs]

Official Pelli renderings and news from a SHKP pdf document (http://www.shkp.com.hk/data/publication/quarterly/13/13/13_189.pdf) :

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/394/122.jpg

Full resolution : http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/394/122_o.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/394/187.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/394/188.jpg

Full resolution : http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/394/188_o.jpg

Spectacular Lujiazui project to create new Shanghai landmark

The Group’s integrated Lujiazui commercial project in Pudong, Shanghai will be a unique two-tower complex with premium offices, hotel space, retail area and entertainment to world- class standards. The development will become a new city landmark for the 21st century and significantly increase the Group’s Mainland investment portfolio.

Height : Over 320 metres
Floors : About 70
Gross floor area : Approximately 4.5 million square feet
Expected completion of first phase : 2008
Parking spaces : Nearly 2000


Prime location

The project’s prime location in the heart of the Lujiazui financial centre in Pudong will make it an ideal place for multinationals to set up headquarters.The Group aims to deliver a top-notch, integrated commercial complex.There will be two towers of about 70 storeys or just over 320 metres tall, providing about 4.5 million square feet of grade-A offices, hotel space and a shopping mall overlooking the Huangpu River. The development will stand alongside the Oriental Pearl TV Tower, Asia’s tallest, the famous Jin Mao Tower and Shanghai’s World Financial Centre. The tentative plan calls for completion in two phases, with the first phase of one tower and the mall scheduled for completion in 2008.


New landmark for Shanghai

World-renowned architect Cesar Pelli designed the Group’s Lujiazui development. His other masterpieces include Hong Kong’s ifc and the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur. Mr Pelli’s innovative design for the dual-tower development blends seamlessly with the other high rises and urban features in the neighbourhood. The towers will be rectangular with geometric features at the corners and crown to set them apart. The distinctive modern design, glass curtain walls and floodlit roofs at night will echo the vibrancy of the city.The towers will act as a visual bridge between the low-rise buildings and skyscrapers in the neighbourhood, and still retain their own functional integrity.Mr Pelli said:“The Lujiazui towers will resemble the Rockefeller Centre in New York, creating a sense of life never before seen in Shanghai. They will be distinctive, permanent landmarks on the Pudong skyline.”

The Group’s Lujiazui project will also be the financial centre’s biggest-ever integrated development with the most comprehensive facilities. Project Director Augustine Lee said that most previous developments in the area were single-block projects, unlike the Group’s multi-faceted project. He said this comprehensive approach to development would set a good example for the city’s evolution. He added that extensive pedestrian subways are planned linking the Group’s project to adjacent buildings, further integrating the financial centre.


Premium facilities for multinationals

The two towers will have hotel accommodation on the upper floors and offices below. Mr Lee said the development would have a range of facilities designed to accommodate the operational requirements of target tenants. The offices will be built to the same standards as ifc in Hong Kong, with virtually column-free floor plates enabling unobstructed views spanning 25 metres on each face of the towers.There will be custom-designed trading floors with extra-deep raised floors for cabling and clear ceiling heights up to 3.3 metres, as well as comprehensive communications and IT infrastructure, high-speed lifts, multiple backup power sources and more.

The mall in the development will have a central atrium connected to major roads like Yin Cheng Zhong Road, Hua Yuan Shi Qiao Road and more.The mall will also be linked to the offices, hotel and ballrooms.The mall will have skylights for a modern feel,and a rooftop garden with gourmet restaurants and a food court.A concentration of international brand name retailers will make this the new entertainment and shopping hot spot in Shanghai.

The hotel portion will have about 1,300 rooms offering six-star hospitality to discerning business executives and travellers.


Comprehensive transport

The development will be well serviced, with about 2,000 parking bays and an underground link with the subway station on the site’s northern side.The Group is currently talking to the municipal authorities about putting in other links to nearby buildings, which will boost the flow of visitors, improve business and make getting around easier. It will only take about 30 minutes to get to the Pudong International Airport via the subway and maglev railway. The municipal government is also thought to be planning to extend the subway directly to the airport, which will further enhance the project’s accessibility.

[Fabb]

They look fantastic.
But it's impossible not to see that they're derived from Pelli's recent works in Madrid and Philadelplhia.

[some_stupid_nut]

Wow! Looks really nice! Unlike the small rendering this doesnt look like US7 at all.

[vincent]

these two towers will look as tall as Jin Mao (coz of perspective) from the Puxi side.

[ztopp]

This will definitely boost up the pudong skyline even more.

[Fabb]

I agree.
What I like about this plan, is that the towers are well integrated. Pelli mentioned the Rockefeller center for a reason. Most of the other skyscrapers in Pudong lack this quality. They look like independent structures ignoring the rest of the city.

[avcellvs]

Sorry but, though I like their design in itself, I think these towers are too high, badly integrated in the Pudong skyline and plan. Very pushy indeed ! (can you feel it my landmark building !)

Due to new ratio, the price for their 320 meters height is that only a quater of Lujiazui biggest block will be build in an area still desperatly waiting for urban densification. From the Jasper tower to the X3-2 tower, a street (Yin Cheng Zhong road) could have been drawn. Same for the west side of Yin Cheng Xi road, that will now nearly have only one side built, another born-dead street. Look at all this empty space in between the Jin Mao and this project !

A megalomaniac step in the wrong direction, I hope this project is not the final one. The plot has not yet been cleared, so there is some more time left for reflexion.

[Fabb]

Sorry but, though I like their design in itself, I think these towers are too high,

That's impossible.
A skyscraper in Pudong can never be too high.

[avcellvs]

That's impossible. A skyscraper in Pudong can never be too high.

Please, try exposing us your arguments behind this bible truth :D

[avcellvs]

Moyan808 posted this exciting rendering of Pudong around 2011 in the WFC thread of the cameraunion forum :

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/484/261_o.jpg

I definitively think the Pelli towers are too high, they don't match the pyramidal skyline, and this rendering is from a building on the Bund not even from the ground (which would have accentuated their height). Pushy, I did meant it. No compensation for this forced step will be possible since the only unconstructed plot left on the north side of Century Avenue is supposed to feature a 170 meters building (the nighmarish Pingan cathedral). Look at the void in between the Shangri La hotel extension and the Hopson Tower, this is also the price for these towers height (new ratio).

In the same frame of mind, a higher than WFC WTC is not a great idea for the skyline neither. The Hopson and the X3-2 towers could have been higher.

When the Lujiazui zone will be extended, some really tall buildings filling the void in between the Pelli towers and the Bank of China building in the backgroung, near the Stock exchange, would be welcomed.

[Fabb]

The beauty of this skyline lies in chaos. I think that the towers by Pelli fit perfectly in this chaos.

[teddybear]

that is cool rendering work!

[Aboveday]

what a mess !
The height of Pelli Twins should reduce by 1/3 ,and if WTC will be built ,350m is the maximum.

[avcellvs]

The beauty of this skyline lies in chaos
what a mess !
Neither chaos nor mess but the clearly identifiable shape of a conical skyline which perfectly fits the topograpical specificity of the Lujiazui zone (a land circled by Huangpu river meander).

Another great post by moyan808 in the cameraunion forum demonstrating how the Pelli towers height break this order : they are too high for their excentrical location. One third shorter would be too much, they could just be shortened in order to let the JinMao top unobstructed from the Bund, 280 meters or so. This might enable the construction of a third building (like in the first project) that would help keeping on drawing streets in the Lujiazui zone.

http://image2.xitek.com/forum/upload/1095/109572/109572_1101999245.jpg

[Fabb]

This is nonsensical.
A couple af 320 m towers won't block SWFC from every point of view.

Besides, their presence will be appreciated just as well as that of SWFC.

[avcellvs]

Finally, I think I was wrong (!?).

I have been sticking too much to my own experience of the current skyline whose summit is the JinMao. With the construction of the WFC the whole skyline rises and the Pelli towers just correct its slope (shortening the project would not have helped anything).

The WTC construction will probably soften the step on Lujiazui south side too. However, I'm still disturbed by the step in between the Pelli twins and the Bank of China Tower. The solution could be to build a 270/200 meters tower at the corner of Century Avenue in stead of the 170 meters Pingan "cathedral".

Pelli is not to blame but the new ratio. If one part of Lujiazui's urbanisation is definitively ruined by this construction at least, it saves the postcard from the Bund. That's how bad things are now with the "Shanghai's sinking" new ratio : buildings will have to be shorter. You don't draw a city with 300 or 400 meters buildings every 500 meters.

[Fabb]

Falling in love with a rapidly changing city is a dangerous game.
I wish there were more renderings of the new towers in their context to ponder their impact.

[avcellvs]

Moyan 808 strikes again :
The Development Tower and the Jasper Tower makes a real nice pair.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/530/28.jpg

[Fabb]

Still no idea of who designed the beautiful Development Tower ?

[avcellvs]

A new rendering and a slightly different model (lovely 30s facist architecture touch) for the Pingan Insurance Building. :help:

One more shit for the skyline foreground ! I can't believe my eyes ! Together with the Merryland building, those towers will be the shame of the CDB. I hope this project won't get the green light.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/589/136.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/589/137.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/589/138.jpg

Ping An Insurance Co., China's second-largest insurer, plans to spend US$242 million to building a skyscraper in Pudong financial district to house its asset management division. The Shenzhen-based insurer will fund a building that is 150 meters tall on a 27,600 - square - meter site next to the Bank of China Tower. Shanghai Lujiazui Finance & Trade Zone Development Co., a real estate developer, said it had sold the Pudong site to Ping An for 447.1 million RMB

[Fabb]

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/589/137.jpg

^This is a Citroen 2CV. I thought they were extinct.
The building behing seems inspired by the cathedral of Reims.

[avcellvs]

They are, and so are the FIAT 500 too. Retro scenery, for a retro building.
Please, stop insulting the Reims cathedral :hilarious

[avcellvs]

A new rendering of Lujiazui circa 2011, by moyan808. Nice ! The century avenue is taking shape but I still regret the void in between the twins and the JinMao. May be later, in a $econd con$truction pha$e, a deci$ion will be made to get rid of the $hit building$ and den$ify thi$ plot and the whole zone... That's often the case with "start from nothing" CDBs.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/624/490.jpg

[-$i-]

I though the pudong area is too soft to build tall and/or heavy buildings? How comes these 2 buildings are being considered?

[some_stupid_nut]

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/589/137.jpg

I like that view a lot! The building looks massive and overbearing. The rendering makes it look cool. The model makes it look ugly and old.

[Fabb]

A new rendering of Lujiazui circa 2011, by moyan808.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/7/624/490.jpg

moyan808 is a genius. So is Pelli.
I've never been more convinced that this development is perfect for this site.

[avcellvs]

Another Lujiazui circa 2011 rendering, Moyan808 strikes again !

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/9/117/193.jpg

[Fabb]

The skin of the SWFC looks a little weird.

[teddybear]

the twin building is too tall.

[avcellvs]

Two new renderings by Moyan 808. Is not the WFC is a bit too high ? I think the Hopson tower will be closer to the Shangri La hotel extension too.

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/9/271/557.jpg

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/9/271/556.jpg

[Fabb]

That's a fantastic job !
Hopefully, this will be a reality by the end of the decade.

[avcellvs]

I don't know if this interesting lowrise is just a project or if it will be built.
Where would it be located, next to the Gran Melia Hotel or the Pudong Customs Building ?

The Breathing Room

Architects : Arthur Gensler & associates

In a sea of skyscrapers, LuiJiaZui distinguishes itself as a sustainable
"cube" with expansive views of the Huangpo River and Shanghai.
Two glass-enclosed buildings are paired to form a larger, perfectly
cube-shaped second "skin," increasing energy efficiency throughout
the structure. The office wings create ridge walls around a cascading
forest of trees: an urban oasis in busy Pudong.

http://www.gensler.com/practices/buildings/images/luijiazui01.jpg

http://img73.exs.cx/img73/7726/gensler1by.jpg

[Fabb]

This big cube is familiar to me.
It reminds me of the Grande Arche in La Défense.
This one looks more elegant though.

[avcellvs]

This one looks really different to me. It is a closed space and three of its sides are built. (By the way, these are the same architects that created the beautiful australian embassy in Paris, next to the japanese cultural center)

[Fabb]

How big is it ?
It looks about 110 m in height and width, like the Grande Arche.

[Xeelee]

nice

[avcellvs]

I have found this short information. I don't know if this include highrises construction.

(SHANGHAI -- 7 March 2005)

Major renovation for Shanghai Railway Station North Square

The Shanghai city government has signed an agreement with City Real Estate Group to redevelop the North Square at the Shanghai Railway Station. According to the plan, the North Square and the neighboring area will be redeveloped into a major transportation hub and commercial district.

City Real Estate Group will invest approximately RMB5 billion (US$602.4 million) in the project, including land compensation to existing owners. The redevelopment will cover six blocks and three main roads in the area. A significant part of the project will be the widening of Zhongqing Road from its existing width of 20 m into a 42 m wide eight-lane main road. Land resumption work has started and will take three years to complete. The entire project is scheduled for completion by 2010.

[avcellvs]

This rendering of a 321 meters building has been posted on the cameraunion forum. It looks like a project for the North Bund area but, as the post was in mandarin, I can't tell if if it is a new one or a discarded one. Does anybody know more about this project ?

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/214/485.jpg

[Fabb]

The latest among the offspring of Turning Torso.

[avcellvs]

A new 2011 Lujiazui CBD rendering by moyan808

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/374/421.jpg


A new rendering fot the 21th century mansion. This project is still around !

http://www.worldisround.com/hosted/12/374/423_o.jpg

[some_stupid_nut]

WTF is that?!

[Torch]

I heard nothing about 21th century mansion for a long time, i thougt it was cancelled!
Have anybod an idea what happens to the building and when they'll start to build it?

[avcellvs]

Finally I found some informations about this rendering. It ils listed in the "work in progress section" on John Portman (Sunjoy tomorrow square, Bund center, Xujiahui superhigh project) web. This is not an old version of the North Bund Tower but another planned super high. Exciting.

http://www.portmanusa.com/work_in_progress/w_north_bund.html

http://www.portmanusa.com/work_in_progress/imgs/w_north_bund.jpg

NORTH BUND INTERNATIONAL CRUISE TERMINAL

This approximately 5,112,857 square foot (475,000 square meter) development is designed to fit into the overall urban fabric and, at the same time, be distinct. The Center Tower is the dominant structure on the site and, as such, sets the tone for the rest of the development. Reaching 1053 feet (321 meters) into the sky, the tower gracefully twists to create a form that is evocative in profile of the fortuitous number 8. Its confident presence on the Shanghai skyline will be attractive to tourists and inspiring to residents. The twist is also indicative of a change of function within the building. The upper portion holds a hotel, while the lower part contains offices. Two smaller towers, both rectilinear in form, complement each other and harmonize with the center tower. One features prime office space, while the other offers serviced apartments.

[Fabb]

It's sculptural !
I even like the smaller towers. But the base should be freed from the circular building that encloses the tower.

[Jonovision]

That is an amazing tower!

[Thefigman]

I have to land a business trip to Shanghai!