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Trojan in NYC
Mar 10, 2008, 11:17 PM
Some pictures of BofA I took last week.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/gotrojans/TopoftheRockTimesSquare.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/gotrojans/BankofAmericafromBryantPark.jpg

Patrick
Mar 11, 2008, 12:02 AM
^That last picture is great, never seen the tower head on, it looks great!

CoolCzech
Mar 11, 2008, 12:11 AM
^The effect won't be complete until the final glass panels are installed in the pinacle. From Bryant Park, the effect will be awe inspiring.

Dac150
Mar 11, 2008, 1:29 AM
Man, what a disgrace the Verizon reclad has become. Very shameful, but the BofA really looks great.

fastdupree
Mar 11, 2008, 7:21 AM
Yeah, the Verizon reclad was a waste of money indeed because the building looked much better before. It even look a little naked now.

NYguy
Mar 11, 2008, 1:08 PM
Pardon me if my geography on New York is wrong on this one, but
is it just me, or would all the development on Hudson Yards completely ruin or take away from
the views from the East we're seeing in all these photos recently posted?

Depends. Unless you are standing directly in line with the ESB it wouldn't because the Hudson Yards towers
are much closer to the river.

For example: The Hudson Yards towers would be in the extreme right of this photo (a few of them)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2180326868_60fd7b30e3_b.jpg
pmarella (http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/)


And the Hudson Yards towers (maybe 1 or 2) would be in the extreme left of this photo...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2158/1739325687_cf3d40726c_b.jpg
pmarella (http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/)

JDRCRASH
Mar 11, 2008, 2:59 PM
Peaks, peaks, peaks! :banana:

NYguy
Mar 13, 2008, 12:54 PM
Looking very Gotham here...from relaxedtype (http://flickr.com/photos/relaxedtype/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/2328735085_ccfb203a90.jpg?v=0


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/2328735085_ccfb203a90_b.jpg

tdawg
Mar 13, 2008, 1:29 PM
Our two new babies really add to the Midtown skyline from this angle.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2180326868_60fd7b30e3_b.jpg

JDRCRASH
Mar 13, 2008, 3:05 PM
Looking very Gotham here...from relaxedtype (http://flickr.com/photos/relaxedtype/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/2328735085_ccfb203a90.jpg?v=0


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/2328735085_ccfb203a90_b.jpg

Neat!:tup:

NYguy
Mar 13, 2008, 5:52 PM
Our two new babies really add to the Midtown skyline from this angle.

Now imagine that shot with the Penn East, Manhattan West, and Hudson Yards towers filling out. :yes:

colemonkee
Mar 18, 2008, 5:13 AM
March 12, 2008

Finally got around to posting some pics I took last Wednesday.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9766/bofa200803123er3.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7187/bofa200803121ga6.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2088/bofa200803122ux5.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/909/bofa200803124zg4.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8956/bofa200803125ja1.jpg


And finally, a bonus of Vito the construction worker. I'm not making this shit up - these guys thought I was a news photographer or something and asked me to take their picture. You gotta love New York.

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/9171/vito20080312kr8.jpg

NYguy
Mar 18, 2008, 1:04 PM
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/909/bofa200803124zg4.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8956/bofa200803125ja1.jpg

Excellent photos. Anyone who doesn't think this tower adds to the skyline just hasn't seen it.
Vito does excellent work...:tup:

JDRCRASH
Mar 18, 2008, 5:28 PM
That's awesome Colemonkee!

RandySavage
Mar 18, 2008, 6:39 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2341799889_86ec50b123_o.jpg
credit:www.flickr.com/photos/avelino_maestas/

Dac150
Mar 18, 2008, 6:42 PM
I love that shot. I suggest everyone finds pictures of that exact spot in 2005, 2000, 1995, 1990, & 1985. I think you'll be shocked on how much that area has changed in just a little over two decades.

JDRCRASH
Mar 18, 2008, 6:49 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3271/2341799889_86ec50b123_o.jpg
credit:www.flickr.com/photos/avelino_maestas/

Judging by the brightness, i'm assuming that's Times Square!:D

2-TOWERS
Mar 19, 2008, 2:30 PM
boy this building would really stand out in any other city.. it is to bad you can hardly see it. if it was where the grace building is you could see the whole character of this magnificent building.

Scruffy
Mar 19, 2008, 4:40 PM
[QUOTE=NYguy;3408343]


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2067/2180326868_60fd7b30e3_b.jpg
pmarella (http://flickr.com/photos/pmarella/)


I love how the little Bertelsmann spire shows up here tying to play with the big boys

JDRCRASH
Mar 20, 2008, 5:07 AM
That picture is sweet!:D

Sandy
Mar 20, 2008, 8:41 PM
I love that shot. I suggest everyone finds pictures of that exact spot in 2005, 2000, 1995, 1990, & 1985. I think you'll be shocked on how much that area has changed in just a little over two decades.

Here's my little contribution as I began a few weeks ago to scan all my old pics from my trips, very boring :dead:

June 1994

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/sandyuspatriot/NYC%20best%20pics/d9a644c6.jpg

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/sandyuspatriot/NYC%20best%20pics/e07f014a.jpg

June 2002

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/sandyuspatriot/NYC%20best%20pics/f39f2443.jpg

:)

PS : Is there someone who could tell me exactly, with details, where I can go to have this kind of view (:D sorry I didn't remember where I saw this amazing picture, maybe somewhere on this forum, congrats to the author :worship: ):

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/sandyuspatriot/Divers/22398be3.jpg

Thanks :)

aluminum
Mar 20, 2008, 10:18 PM
I got some shots of NYC skyline shots from 1980 movie "Cannibal Holocaust". This is how that area looked like in 1980 or maybe 1979...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2002/nycsnap1zz3.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7537/nycsnap2ob7.jpg

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3483/nycsnap3ra3.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4841/nycsnap4xa9.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7605/nycsnap5ps8.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/883/nycsnap6tg7.jpg

Dac150
Mar 20, 2008, 10:42 PM
Thank you for those. I just want people to appreciate the development that has gone on in the last 20 years and see how that development has transformed the skyline. There may be critics to the 21st Century Times Square development, (Ernst Young, NYTT, TST, Conde Nast, etc...) but it has done great justice to the skyline. I personally love all those buildings.

scalziand
Mar 20, 2008, 11:04 PM
It appears that at some point the short boxy building across from BOA on Bryant Park was reclad.

PhxSprawler
Mar 20, 2008, 11:10 PM
PS : Is there someone who could tell me exactly, with details, where I can go to have this kind of view (:D sorry I didn't remember where I saw this amazing picture, maybe somewhere on this forum, congrats to the author :worship: ):

Thanks :)

You could take the ferry from Weehawken to Midtown, or from Midtown (42nd street and Westside Hwy) to Weehawken to get this view. It is a great view if the sky is clear enough.

nygirl1
Mar 21, 2008, 12:04 AM
I got some shots of NYC skyline shots from 1980 movie "Cannibal Holocaust". This is how that area looked like in 1980 or maybe 1979...

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2002/nycsnap1zz3.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7537/nycsnap2ob7.jpg

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3483/nycsnap3ra3.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4841/nycsnap4xa9.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7605/nycsnap5ps8.jpg

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/883/nycsnap6tg7.jpg

Man that movie made me depressed for days.

aluminum
Mar 21, 2008, 1:06 AM
^ Well I was under serious mental shock for 2-3 days after I saw that movie. Back to topic, does anyone knows how many floors will be occupied by BoA ? Were the previous BoA offices in the WTC ?

Dac150
Mar 21, 2008, 1:25 AM
I'm sorry if it's off topic (someone can pm me the answer), but what exactly is that movie about? I've never heard of it.

antinimby
Mar 21, 2008, 10:02 AM
It appears that at some point the short boxy building across from BOA on Bryant Park was reclad.Yep, it was originally known as the "Bryant Park building" but was recladded in 1985 by HBO.

I tried to find a pic of it before the recladding but had no luck. :(

Patrick
Mar 21, 2008, 10:27 AM
Yep, it was originally known as the "Bryant Park building" but was recladded in 1985 by HBO.

I tried to find a pic of it before the recladding but had no luck. :(

I thought the building had been demolished and replaced with the current glass box, but after realizing the building was the same size and shape I realized it had just been recladded.

picture from photolibrary.com
http://www.photolibrary.com/image_catalogue/50kfiles/ss811/12581375.jpg

You can see its original glory in this picture.
http://i26.tinypic.com/2znmmw2.jpg

Beetjeveen
Mar 21, 2008, 2:16 PM
Am I the only one that think's that this building is never going to be finished? I get the impression that they just stopped working and leave it like this...

Offourse this is meant ironic. I know they are going to finish it but it seems to take forever to get those last windows on it.

CarlosV
Mar 21, 2008, 6:12 PM
First time at the site in months..........the crown still not finished, but overall looks good...........:tup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2008/Picture015.jpg


:)


the tower looks stunning

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2008/Picture017.jpg


:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2008/Picture036.jpg


:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2008/Picture032.jpg




:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/nyctowers/2008/Picture014.jpg

Sandy
Mar 21, 2008, 6:24 PM
You could take the ferry from Weehawken to Midtown, or from Midtown (42nd street and Westside Hwy) to Weehawken to get this view. It is a great view if the sky is clear enough.

Thank you very much :)

Fabb
Mar 22, 2008, 5:30 AM
First time at the site in months..........

... you have no idea how much I missed you.
For me, the forum has been a totally different place for the last three months.

^Those five are excellent.
Never have I seen BofA so radiant, glowing...

CarlosV
Mar 22, 2008, 1:06 PM
... you have no idea how much I missed you.
For me, the forum has been a totally different place for the last three months.

^Those five are excellent.
Never have I seen BofA so radiant, glowing...

Fabb, how are things in Paris? I'm glad you miss me.... :) haven't checked out this forum in ages but i will try more often :yes:

SkyLuxe
Mar 28, 2008, 1:34 PM
i know those pictures arent the newest ones but its a little contribution to the forum, i took those pictures on summer.

cheers...

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5697/sky1va3.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8489/sky2sr6.jpg

jmecklenborg
Mar 29, 2008, 2:51 AM
Sorry for not checking back through all 137 pages on this thread...my question is how big this building's parking garage is or if it even has one. Also if anyone knows how many parking spaces (ratio of spaces to workers and/or residents) are typically built as part of a New York office tower like this please pass it along.

I'm asking because we've got a rail transit thing happening here in my city and various opponents seem to not understand that rail reduces the need for parking. On sites near transit stops, banks require fewer parking spaces to give loans. Obviously in this situation it's a bit different since Bank of America is a bank.

RandySavage
Mar 29, 2008, 7:28 AM
Interesting question. Part of what makes NYC great, IMO, is that so few people drive to work. Of those that do, I don't know anyone who parks in his building's basement garage and then takes the elevator upstairs to work. If they do drive, it's typically to a parking garage somewhere within walking distance. Many office skyscrapers have service entrances for deliveries, but I don't know of many that have parking for the tenants. I'm pretty sure BofA won't have a public/tenant parking garage. Newer condo and rental towers seem to be building garages more often these days, but New York is unique from most cities in that not many can drive right up to (and under) their office.

jmecklenborg
Mar 31, 2008, 1:16 AM
Thanks for your response...hopefully someone can confirm that there is no parking or roughly how many spots will be built.

In my online research it looks like the destroyed WTC had 2,000 parking spaces for 210 floors of offices and roughly 50,000 workers. Here in Cincinnati we have a 40-floor office tower breaking ground in a month or so with a planned 2,400 car garage. I'm going to be speaking at a city council meeting in a week where I'm going to bring up that rather spectacular statistic.

NYguy
Apr 2, 2008, 11:30 AM
Great shot from the NY Times...

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/04/02/nyregion/02glass_650.jpg

oldpainless
Apr 2, 2008, 7:52 PM
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8489/sky2sr6.jpg
Thats a dense pack of buildings if I've ever seen one.
I heard somewhere that midtown Manhattan is the densest urban area in the world. Judging by this photo I'd say it was true.

NYguy
Apr 2, 2008, 11:33 PM
Thats a dense pack of buildings if I've ever seen one.
I heard somewhere that midtown Manhattan is the densest urban area in the world. Judging by this photo I'd say it was true.

And that photo doesn't even begin to describe how dense Midtown is.

JDRCRASH
Apr 3, 2008, 4:48 PM
And that photo doesn't even begin to describe how dense Midtown is.

What do ya mean?

I think this pretty much sums it up:

http://www.pnwboces.org/cesar/Curriculum_Center/SSELA/FourthGrade/unit3/images_Lesson7/crowded%20street.jpeg
:runaway:

NYguy
Apr 3, 2008, 6:41 PM
What do ya mean?


We're talking about the skyscraper density of Midtown.

Hamilton
Apr 5, 2008, 12:12 AM
I can confirm that the BofA tower will have NO parking garage.

Additionally, in the Manhattan Core (Midtown and Lower Manhattan), parking spaces are actually restricted below 60th Street, in order to comply with the Clean Air Act of 1970. There are no parking minimum requirements in this area, in fact garages in commercial buildings are limited to a maximum of 100 spaces. The city strongly encourages developers to keep parking spaces to under 20% of the number of units in their developments, but this is not mandatory.

Here's a citation:

"In 1979 New York State, in response to the 1978 Clean Air Act lawsuit Friends of the Earth v. Carey, created a hard-wired, legally binding plan to bring the city and state into compliance with the Act by limiting the amount of parking spaces below 60th Street in Manhattan for residential buildings (20 percent of the number of units), commercial buildings apart from hotels and hospitals (100 maximum), and mixed-use buildings (225 maximum)."

NYguy
Apr 5, 2008, 12:36 AM
Additionally, in the Manhattan Core (Midtown and Lower Manhattan), parking spaces are actually restricted below 60th Street, in order to comply with the Clean Air Act of 1970. There are no parking minimum requirements in this area, in fact garages in commercial buildings are limited to a maximum of 100 spaces. The city strongly encourages developers to keep parking spaces to under 20% of the number of units in their developments, but this is not mandatory.

Except for the west side developments where creating parking is mandatory. Each site has a minimum number of spaces to create, usually above 100.

Here's an example from Brookfield's Manhattan West development, city requirements for development:

More specifics, pages 57-58
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/hyards/hy_development_information.pdf

Site 729A

Northwest corner of Ninth Avenue and West 31st Street
Design Controls: sidewalk widening, ground floor retail and transparency,
street trees, required street wall, required publicly-accessible through-block
passageway
Parking Requirement: approximately 822 spaces

Height Limits: None
Total Lot Area (SF): 128,600
Max. FAR: 19.0
Max. ZFA (SF): 2,443,400

__________________________________


Site 729B

Southeast corner of Ninth Avenue and West 33rd Street
Design Controls: sidewalk widening, ground floor retail and transparency,
street trees, required street wall, required public plaza
Parking Requirement: approximately 516 spaces

Height Limits: None
Total Lot Area (SF): 80,729
Max. FAR: 19.0
Max. ZFA (SF): 1,533,851

Hamilton
Apr 5, 2008, 2:51 AM
Right. Puzzling planning policy coming from such an environmentally-friendly mayor, but yeah, Hudson Yards is the only part of the Manhattan Core exempt from the requirement

jmecklenborg
Apr 5, 2008, 3:30 PM
>I can confirm that the BofA tower will have NO parking garage.

Incredible. In the interior cities with pre-WWII skyscraperps, those first high rises were usually built with zero parking and as a result after the war nearby blocks were demolished for parking garages. The big department stores also bought up nearby blocks for parking garages often with no or little street retail in the garages. This is part of the reason why the old office towers are considered Class B office space.

vaporvr6
Apr 5, 2008, 4:21 PM
if you're working in midtown manhattan, and your plan for a commute is driving, you're f-ing up.

Zerton
Apr 5, 2008, 4:48 PM
I wonder why the top is taking so long. a lot of mechanical?

philvia
Apr 5, 2008, 5:42 PM
>I can confirm that the BofA tower will have NO parking garage.

Incredible. In the interior cities with pre-WWII skyscraperps, those first high rises were usually built with zero parking and as a result after the war nearby blocks were demolished for parking garages. The big department stores also bought up nearby blocks for parking garages often with no or little street retail in the garages. This is part of the reason why the old office towers are considered Class B office space.

$81 monthly metro card solves that

Scruffy
Apr 5, 2008, 5:45 PM
Does anyone know if they started on or where still planning on connecting the Bryant Park 6th ave subway station with the Times Square subway station with a tunnel under 42nd built by BOA?

antinimby
Apr 5, 2008, 6:07 PM
jmeckleborg, you can't use NY and compare them with those other cities. For one, there's subway lines galore running underneath most of Manhattan. Until those other cities have more mass transit options, you can't use NY's model to make your case for no parking garages.

Argue for more mass transit development, then once that is in place, then you can advocate for less or no parking. Otherwise you are going to lose your argument. You see what I'm getting at?

scruffy, I'm sure the BofA people have already done their tunnel part, now it's up to the MTA to do their part but as we all know, that might be the most difficult part.

Jasonhouse
Apr 5, 2008, 6:28 PM
^less parking is fundamental to the mass transit sale though imo... the cost savings of having to buy less land and build less parking and the inevitable visual improvement in that makes transit worth it.

antinimby
Apr 5, 2008, 6:49 PM
I don't think you are understanding. I am not saying mass transit and garages should coexist. You must have one if you don't have the other. If don't have mass transit, you're going to need parking. If you have mass transit, then you can put a stop to parking.

NYRY85
Apr 16, 2008, 1:57 AM
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5849&d=1208282564

NYC2ATX
Apr 16, 2008, 2:02 AM
Where did you take that picture from NYRY? Wait, does that mean that they've finally begun work on the crown? Thank god, it's about time.

lakegz
Apr 16, 2008, 2:17 AM
that can't be from the verizon or Grace building so which skyscraper is just north of BOA?

JayPro
Apr 16, 2008, 2:33 AM
It's gotta be that @500'er with the vertical concrete ribbing in SkyLuxe's pic.

WonderlandPark
Apr 16, 2008, 4:44 AM
I took this pic yesterday from top of the rock. what a view, I have never been up there before. It was absurdly clear, too. Here is B of A. Its gettin' there.

http://www.pixelmap.com/images/Nav/nyc_03.jpg

(I will put the whole pano up on the Goldman Sachs post)

pattali
Apr 16, 2008, 7:10 AM
Thanks WonderlandPark and NyRY85 ,

Those last photos shows that the cladding beginning on the crown , seem to be really beautiful...
But no sign of wind turbine.

N

NYguy
Apr 16, 2008, 6:56 PM
APRIL 12, 2008

1.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729079/large.jpg

2.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729082/large.jpg

3.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729084/large.jpg

4.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729087/large.jpg

5.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729089/large.jpg

6.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729110/large.jpg

7. What a massive tower...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729114/large.jpg

8.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729126/large.jpg

9.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729128/large.jpg

10.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729130/large.jpg

11.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729145/large.jpg

12.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729148/large.jpg

13.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729165/large.jpg

14.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729174/large.jpg

15.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95729175/large.jpg

16.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616262/large.jpg

17.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616261/large.jpg

18.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616265/large.jpg

19.
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616268/large.jpg


LARGE SPIRE (http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616268/original.jpg[/img) pic.

TheOldMan
Apr 18, 2008, 9:03 AM
Wow, this building is turning out to be quite an addition to the Midtown Skyline. I really like its duel-shard of glass design. def works.

I may be in the minority here but im not crazy about the Verizon's new facade. I actually liked the old one better. it was old school and would have offered a nice contrast to BoA tower's ultra modern glass curtain wall.

o well...BoA looks sharp. Another great addition to NYC !

Fabb
Apr 18, 2008, 11:40 AM
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/morganboy/IMGP1203.jpg

photo, morganboy

CHAPINM1
Apr 18, 2008, 4:48 PM
Are they actually going to finish this building by the end of the decade? Seriously, they've been working on the crown for only God knows how long! Sorry about the rant, but ever since the accident last October, it seems that there has been almost zero progress on the upper floors and exteriors other than the topping off of the project last December.

tdawg
Apr 18, 2008, 5:03 PM
I hung out in Bryant Park after work yesterday before meeting friends at Koi for drinks and just sat there and stared at how beautiful this building is.

PhxSprawler
Apr 18, 2008, 5:42 PM
Thanks WonderlandPark and NyRY85 ,

Those last photos shows that the cladding beginning on the crown , seem to be really beautiful...
But no sign of wind turbine.

N

It turns out the wind conditions weren't good enough to support the cost of the turbine.

Personally, I think they should have done a feasibility study BEFORE announcing the turbine. I think it was a vicious ploy to earn the platinum LEED rating.

NYguy
Apr 18, 2008, 9:37 PM
APRIL 18, 2008

High above Times Square...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95784960/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95784978/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95784983/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95784993/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95784993/original.jpg

antinimby
Apr 18, 2008, 10:23 PM
This has a certain Hong Kong look and feel to it.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95616268/large.jpg

banned
Apr 19, 2008, 8:31 PM
A new eposide of "Megastructures" features this building.

NYC2ATX
Apr 20, 2008, 9:52 AM
I'm excited for the crown being clad finally. I like the way they're doing it too, starting at the back, flashing you a preview in Times Square, and then eventually meeting at the corner of 6th and 42nd making a big finish at the popular and visible Bryant Park face. The totally planned it....

Dac150
Apr 20, 2008, 4:17 PM
I got a good view of it coming into LGA yesterday and it has a big impact on the city (as does the NYTT, which I was really impressed by).

Stu
Apr 20, 2008, 9:59 PM
I like the trio spire effect this, Conde Nast and NYTT have on the skyline. Must be impressive in person.

Patrick
Apr 21, 2008, 5:10 AM
What an amazing addition to the skyline! Midtown REALLY looks great in this shot, especially the Avenue of the Americas! Although 1095 Avenue of the Americas really ruins it with its nasty shade of green, still would have looked better without the reclad.
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/morganboy/IMGP1203.jpg

Fabb
Apr 21, 2008, 5:15 AM
Personally, I think they should have done a feasibility study BEFORE announcing the turbine. I think it was a vicious ploy to earn the platinum LEED rating.

I agree.
Green features are first to be dumped to keep the cost of construction down.

NYguy
Apr 21, 2008, 10:08 PM
I'm excited for the crown being clad finally. I like the way they're doing it too, starting at the back, flashing you a preview in Times Square, and then eventually meeting at the corner of 6th and 42nd making a big finish at the popular and visible Bryant Park face. The totally planned it....


That brings me back to my point about the cladding. Just like with other towers, its
considered the roof height for me. That will become more clear once the tower is complete.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95784993/large.jpg

NYguy
Apr 21, 2008, 10:12 PM
I like the trio spire effect this, Conde Nast and NYTT have on the skyline. Must be impressive in person.

In the forest of spires...

APRIL 19, 2008

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95933795/large.jpg


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/95933835/large.jpg

williamphilapa
Apr 26, 2008, 3:05 PM
Few from 04_19_08...

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7260/dscf6266copyjk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3329/dscf6169ze1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/312/dscf6154rp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Fabb
Apr 26, 2008, 8:07 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what's my favourite angle.
Today I'm inclined to pick the view from Times Square.

aluminum
Apr 26, 2008, 8:47 PM
Its one of the FATTEST nyc skycrapers, maybe not extremely tall, but sure is pretty FAT. And I'm not really impressed with the facade, especially when compared to the gorgeous newly built times square skyscrapers nearby such as Times Square Tower and 5 Times Square.

Dac150
Apr 26, 2008, 8:51 PM
Its one of the FATTEST nyc skycrapers, maybe not extremely tall, but sure is pretty FAT.

Yeah, it ranks up there in weight with 55 Water Street and The GM Building. It is pretty tall though, even without the spire (especially for a 'fat building').

charmedone
Apr 27, 2008, 1:07 AM
heres a few pics i took on the 23rd

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/nnn68.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/nnn54.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/nnn53.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/nnn52.jpg

and heres one i took in july 2006

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/n1386720015_30005795_5552.jpg

antinimby
Apr 27, 2008, 3:30 AM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/nnn52.jpgThey've really let that Jerry Springer ad go to hell, didn't they? :haha:

Or is it intentional?

philvia
Apr 27, 2008, 3:51 AM
They've really let that Jerry Springer ad go to hell, didn't they? :haha:

Or is it intentional?


are there any shots of some completed lower floors? with ceilings installed and stuff?

AtlanticaC5
Apr 27, 2008, 8:07 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e232/CharmedOne9805/nnn53.jpg

I guess those top floors of the crown are no real floors? The facade with the windows makes them look like real floors, but the steel skeleton under it doesn't look that way.

NYC2ATX
Apr 28, 2008, 2:39 AM
I guess those top floors of the crown are no real floors? The facade with the windows makes them look like real floors, but the steel skeleton under it doesn't look that way.

Quite clever, IMO. :tup:

charmedone
Apr 28, 2008, 4:19 AM
They've really let that Jerry Springer ad go to hell, didn't they? :haha:

Or is it intentional?

yea i nodiced that to how long has that been up for ???

James Bond Agent 007
Apr 28, 2008, 4:38 AM
Man, it's still so buried. It almost seems kind-of a waste to have such a tall building you can hardly see. ;) Imagine - a super-tall which serves as nothing more than a bit of skyline filler. ;)

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b178/morganboy/IMGP1203.jpg

Is there such a thing as a point beyond which there's little point in building a super-tall? If you build a super-tall but you can hardly see it, is it worth the bother? :???:

philvia
Apr 28, 2008, 5:01 AM
Is there such a thing as a point beyond which there's little point in building a super-tall? If you build a super-tall but you can hardly see it, is it worth the bother? :???:
that is almost a silly question

Scruffy
Apr 28, 2008, 5:49 PM
Ofcourse it's worth building. For one thing, its functional. Its not built just to be looked at. And if just looking at it were their focus, its across the street from the 2nd most popular park in the city where it can be admired for hours

tdawg
Apr 28, 2008, 5:54 PM
I disagree that it is buried. I've scanned Midtown from the GWB and the BQE in Queens and it's very prominent on the skyline, as prominent as a building under 2000' can be in Midtown Manhattan.

CHAPINM1
Apr 29, 2008, 5:38 AM
I can see it easy coming in on the Green Line coming in from Queens. Also, when seeing it up close just yesterday, there were more windows knocked out from that construction accident than I originally thought... BTW on a side note, we've been seeing some really shitty weather the last two days or so...

Beetjeveen
May 1, 2008, 4:02 PM
Yesterday their was an episode of Megastructures I believe dedicated to this skyscraper. It was called Ultimate skyscraper NYC. Does anybody if it is able to watch this episode only, or does anybody have a link to a torrent?

banned
May 1, 2008, 4:47 PM
There may be some places that one could find it, but I'd rather not discuss it on a public board. I will not be answering PM's either, but it should be available.

aluminum
May 1, 2008, 9:08 PM
Man, it's still so buried. It almost seems kind-of a waste to have such a tall building you can hardly see. ;) Imagine - a super-tall which serves as nothing more than a bit of skyline filler. ;)


First: Its absolutely not buried. Its rises more than 200' over the vast 700' high plateau of midtown Manhattan. The only city where it could seem buried is *cough* *cough* Dubai *cough* *cough*

Second: This building is -not even close- to being called a waste, its a 2msf office tower catalyzing the economic growth of NYC.

Third: Please don't call it a super-tall (you may call it a super-giant office tower though)

NYguy
May 2, 2008, 4:31 AM
Second: This building is -not even close- to being called a waste, its a 2msf office tower catalyzing the economic growth of NYC.

Third: Please don't call it a super-tall (you may call it a super-giant office tower though)

Well, it's at a supertall height, that make you feel better? Anyway, I'm already used to seeing this bold spire on the skyline, especially from Midtown South. It adds a nice, vertical thrust to the mass of skyscrapers that Midtown has become. All the more reason I can't wait until the Tower Verre rises. With all of the new towers planned, there's the potential for spires to lose dominance on the Midtown skyline, can't forget about that.

Also, I agree that this tower is hardly a waste. Some of the most expensive office space in Manhattan didn't keep this one from being gobbled up quickly. With the shortage of new office space in Manhattan, even the speculative towers (like 11 TS and Boston Properties 8th Ave tower) are finding tenants before really getting off the ground. It's precious space indeed.

James Bond Agent 007
May 2, 2008, 7:54 AM
Well OK, next time I go to NY I'll have to check out its relative "buried-ness" myself. ;) It just looks kinda buried in these pics I guess.

BTW when I asked (somewhat rhetorically) whether it was worth it building a tall building you could barely see, I didn't mean the commercial aspect of it. Of course if there's someone willing to take up that much space, it is "worth it." I was referring to its "tall-ness," not its "volume-ness" when I asked if there was much point.

But if you guys say this isn't as buried as it appears to me in these pictures, I'll take your word for it, at least until I see it myself.

skellergroup
May 2, 2008, 1:30 PM
Is there any interesting retail going in this building?

I miss NYC so much. Especially Bryant Park.

This is turning out great...but certainly taking some time to finish.

CoolCzech
May 2, 2008, 5:08 PM
^Yeah, just like with the NY Times building: the main shaft shoots right up, but things suddenly seem to come a crawl when it comes to finishing off the crown.

bkraig4life
May 2, 2008, 11:25 PM
I went to Newark about a month ago and even from the airport area, I was amazed at the sheer height of these buildings. Midtown looked like a wall, and because Ive been following this site, I definately could see the BOA rising above the other buildings. Much taller in real life than photos, maybe 5 miles away?