NYguy
Sep 24, 2010, 2:36 PM
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NYguy
Sep 24, 2010, 3:01 PM
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NYguy
Sep 25, 2010, 1:23 AM
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Sep 27, 2010, 12:34 PM
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NYguy
Sep 27, 2010, 9:19 PM
SEPTEMBER 26, 2010
Some love for the "flat" side...
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patriotizzy
Sep 27, 2010, 9:24 PM
Someone should take a picture of the flat side from a little ways away.
NYguy
Sep 27, 2010, 9:48 PM
^ There have been many posted here.
A few more...
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NYC4Life
Sep 28, 2010, 5:12 AM
The flat side really demonstrates how dominating this tower is. Just looking up at that sheer wall and you know this tower is BIG!
Innsertnamehere
Sep 28, 2010, 7:31 PM
how come i have a feeling that the guy who took the last pic was taking a picture of the smart car, rather than the beekman?
rich_200
Sep 28, 2010, 8:27 PM
how come i have a feeling that the guy who took the last pic was taking a picture of the smart car, rather than the beekman?
hahaha I was thinking the same thing.
NYguy
Sep 28, 2010, 9:07 PM
how come i have a feeling that the guy who took the last pic was taking a picture of the smart car, rather than the beekman?
It has to be said, but DUH...;)
NYC4Life
Sep 29, 2010, 2:44 AM
If it were a bigger vehicle, we wouldn't see that glimpse of Beekman...lol
patriotizzy
Sep 29, 2010, 5:52 AM
^ There have been many posted here.
I should have been more clear. What I mean is that someone should post a picture of the flat side, from afar, so that it's the only side of the building visible. I don't think I've seen one like that.
hunser
Sep 29, 2010, 8:01 PM
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NYguy
Sep 29, 2010, 10:42 PM
I should have been more clear. What I mean is that someone should post a picture of the flat side, from afar, so that it's the only side of the building visible. I don't think I've seen one like that.
The skyscrapers south of the building make that harder to get the one side alone.
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sterlippo1
Sep 29, 2010, 11:43 PM
just amazing stuff, thanks to all of you for the incredible shots:tup:
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Sep 30, 2010, 12:54 AM
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nycdagreatest
Sep 30, 2010, 3:05 AM
I should have been more clear. What I mean is that someone should post a picture of the flat side, from afar, so that it's the only side of the building visible. I don't think I've seen one like that.
Liberty State park has some nice views of the flatside
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hunser
Sep 30, 2010, 5:50 AM
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Boris2k7
Sep 30, 2010, 12:25 PM
I was pretty skeptical about this tower as it was going up, but having seen it in person it really looks quite brilliant. The non-flat sides play with light and shadows pretty well.
patriotizzy
Sep 30, 2010, 9:49 PM
Liberty State park has some nice views of the flatside
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risycle (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rlsycle/5037696808/)
PERFECT! That looks really nice. I was a little worried it would look really dull compared to the wavy side but it's still quite amazing! Thanks bud!
BStyles
Oct 1, 2010, 4:53 PM
Wait, where's Beekman?!:haha:
I just love how it blends in from the flat side!
hunser
Oct 2, 2010, 10:34 AM
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NYguy
Oct 2, 2010, 7:40 PM
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Oct 3, 2010, 11:57 AM
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mrnyc
Oct 3, 2010, 3:23 PM
^ hey i think i saw you!
so its about all topped out and looks shiny and sharp -- these are iphone shots from yesterday
western view from city hall park
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couldn't resist! :wink:
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^ hoo ha in front of the bar -- hmm, maybe its a bar for art students?!! :laugh:
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another of the southern facing/value-engineered flat side
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just to the eastside, gets its gehry swerve going
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NYC4Life
Oct 3, 2010, 5:59 PM
In some photos, this tower still looks more like a render than an actual building. Best building to be built in a generation.
Phil McAvity
Oct 3, 2010, 9:01 PM
Even though it's an extremely cool building, it does kind of look like a crumpled piece of paper which probably isn't the most flattering description of it.
patriotizzy
Oct 3, 2010, 9:47 PM
Even though it's an extremely cool building, it does kind of look like a crumpled piece of paper which probably isn't the most flattering description of it.
The difference however, is that a crumpled piece of paper is far from looking remotely close like a building.
Crumpled paper is all jagged and bends are criss-crossing all over the place. The Beekman has beautiful waves coming down all over the facade, in one direction.
I rest my case.
RoldanTTLB
Oct 3, 2010, 10:04 PM
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Finally! A T&S shot of this thing. Truly incredible. Now that there is a micro 4/3rds T&S adapter, I will likely be upgrading next year. That will be fun.
Zerton
Oct 3, 2010, 10:45 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't like it?
Obey
Oct 3, 2010, 11:03 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't like it?
Yes, you are.
photoLith
Oct 4, 2010, 1:44 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't like it?
Blasphemy!!!!!!
Fred the Fop
Oct 4, 2010, 3:39 AM
Yes, you are.
Nope. Zerton and I agree! I think it's ugly. They took a conventional design that pollutes new high-rise construction all over Manhattan, and added a "twist".
It's hideous. I walked by it on Friday and it is just overwhelmingly unimpressive.
JSsocal
Oct 4, 2010, 5:12 AM
What'ya mean conventional? New highrises in New York don't share a similar form to this building. So they took an already interesting building form in comparison to other New York projects, made it silver, and added an incredibly interesting design to it. Why does everything need to be a glass curtain wall or shitty cheap colored brick? This building is slender, something people underestimate given that all new office buildings will be extremely fat, (see BofA and 15 Penn Plaza), and has classic New York setbacks. If you hate this project because its Gehry, and it looks similar to all his other work, get a grip you couldn't have asked for much better in this location.
hunser
Oct 4, 2010, 6:15 AM
Nope. Zerton and I agree! I think it's ugly. They took a conventional design that pollutes new high-rise construction all over Manhattan, and added a "twist".
It's hideous. I walked by it on Friday and it is just overwhelmingly unimpressive.
interesting, if this building pollutes the manhattan skyline, i wonder what you find and will find attractive. i suggest you move out of NY asap because you'll probably get a heart attack when you see what's next. ;)
sterlippo1
Oct 4, 2010, 9:44 AM
What'ya mean conventional? New highrises in New York don't share a similar form to this building. So they took an already interesting building form in comparison to other New York projects, made it silver, and added an incredibly interesting design to it. Why does everything need to be a glass curtain wall or shitty cheap colored brick? This building is slender, something people underestimate given that all new office buildings will be extremely fat, (see BofA and 15 Penn Plaza), and has classic New York setbacks. If you hate this project because its Gehry, and it looks similar to all his other work, get a grip you couldn't have asked for much better in this location.
agree wholeheartedly with this. :tup: it is tall ,lean and sleek and fits into the skyline beautifully, especially from the Brooklyn side. also agree with the "fat" description of BofA which i can't stand BTW, it's my least favorite of all of the new construction or under construction buildings around town........
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Oct 4, 2010, 12:05 PM
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RoldanTTLB
Oct 4, 2010, 4:44 PM
It's ok not to like this, but unless you mean conventional in the sense of built with concrete instead of something unique like paper-mache, then I don't get it. Can anyone here name any other T-shaped buildings in NYC? As the 8th tallest skyscraper in the city, are there many other buildings of this height being constructed? I mean, this is all ignoring the fast that this is the only all metal facade in the city too. There are a variety of reasons to like or dislike this building, but I don't think calling it conventional is the right way to go about doing it.
NYguy
Oct 4, 2010, 8:57 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't like it?
Most likely not, but most people do. It hardly matters who likes it or not, the fact remains that its the most original (and best by my standards) skyscraper built in the city in decades. And yet its both classic and modern at the same time.
OCTOBER 3, 2010
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Oct 5, 2010, 11:43 AM
:previous: and it's already a classic...
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posted originally by Merry
Gehry on New Gehry Building
By PETER GRANT
The gleaming new Beekman tower designed by architect Frank Gehry won't be open for renters until early next year. But reviews are beginning to pour in of the 76-story skyscraper—New York's tallest residential building—that already has become a major presence on the downtown skyline.
Most of the reviews of the tower and its distinctive, crinkly metal facade have been good.
While some architects privately describe the design as "forced" and "exaggerated," the consensus is that it's a welcome addition that complements the nearby Woolworth Building and Municipal Building, which were built nearly a century earlier.
"Here is Gehry relatively restrained, his usual geometrical gymnastics tempered by more traditional skyscraping aspirations," says the new AIA Guide to New York City.
For Mr. Gehry, the tower marks only his second major work in New York—after his IAC/InterActiveCorp headquarters building overlooking the Hudson River—and it is by far the most significant local contribution of the 81-year-old Pritzker Prize-winner.
His earlier designs for major signature projects, like a new Guggenheim museum over the East River and a Nets Arena at Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn, never got off the drawing boards.
In an interview he discussed the new tower, which is going to be marketed by its developer, Forest City Ratner Cos., as "New York by Gehry at Eight Spruce Street." Here are excerpts:
WSJ: How did you come up with the design concept for the tower?
Frank Gehry: I walked the streets a lot and looked at what was built in the past. I was looking for what the essence of New York was. Step-backs are a distinguishing feature of New York skyscrapers.
So I decided to work with that. I also saw a lot of modernist mistakes like putting glass at the corner of towers. It sort of weakens the form of the building. In the best buildings the corners are solid. There's a strength to that.
WSJ: Many of your best known projects are almost sculptures themselves that house museums or performing arts halls. How does your design of this one reflect its residential use?
FG: Since it was a residential tower, I wanted to do something that there aren't many of in New York, which is have apartments with bay windows. If you walk to a normal facade, you can push your nose against the window and you can see in either direction a little bit.
If it's a bay window, you feel like you're walking into space.
But if you have a bay window at the same place in the floor plan in every floor you get a vertical projection that's lined up all the way to the top, which would have been a harsh move. I wanted to soften that like a fabric.
WSJ: Is that why you selected the look and texture of the facade?
FG: I've been fascinated with the studies of fabric by great artists through time—like Michelangelo, Leonardo. Apparently in their spare time they always drew fabric. You find a lot of those drawings in their archives.
I probably rationalize this but there's probably a primate sense that when you're in your mother's arms as a baby: the folds in their clothes become very intimately associated with comfort and warmth. So those folds are functional.
WSJ: How did your design take into account its neighbors like the Woolworth Building?
FG: I am a contexualist. I pay a lot of attention to where I'm doing things. And I have a mind-set not to talk down to people or places. People have been telling me this is a New York building. I don't think you would build that building anywhere else.
With its stair-steps, it has a New York persona. I think I've nailed that part of it. That was intentional. I think it talks to the Woolworth Building. I like the juxtaposition. It sure as hell doesn't talk down to it. It holds its own.
WSJ: You're well known for using computer-assisted design techniques. How were they utilized in this project?
FG: That's what made it possible. According to my client, the premium for our work, the architecture in this building was zero.
There was no added cost over his normal pro forma for a building of this topic. We had an economic pro forma. We lived within it and we got a premium aesthetic and a premium function within the same price as a normal building.
That was possible because the precision of the tools I used to define the building and cut back on change orders and waste.
It must feel satisfying to see this tower completed after some of your other projects here, like the Guggenheim and Atlantic Yards, didn't come to fruition.
The Atlantic Yards was the same client [Forest City Ratner] and there was a business decision to change and make it a much smaller building.
It wasn't like everyone says that my building was more expensive. That wasn't it. My building was within the parameters of their program and not more expensive. I'm very careful about that.
The Guggenheim over the water was never real. It was always kind of a dream.
WSJ: Has it been frustrating that these projects didn't move forward?
FG: There are a lot of good architects that have never done anything in New York. So I'm blessed.
The other good thing about this is that my father was born in New York. He lived in Hell's Kitchen and was very poor. Emotionally I think of him. And I wish he were here to see it.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704847104575532333955324928.html?mod=WSJ_NY_RealEstate_LEADNewsCollection
NYguy
Oct 5, 2010, 10:32 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/10/realestate/10posting.html
New Gehry Tower Prepares for Renters
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By FRED A. BERNSTEIN
October 5, 2010
For years, New York developers have been trying to maximize the value of residential properties by hiring celebrity architects. At Philip Johnson’s Urban Glass House, Richard Meier’s Perry Street apartments and Jean Nouvel’s 100 11th Avenue, the architects were chosen in part to raise condominium prices.
Now the developer Bruce Ratner, of Forest City Ratner, is about to determine if a big-name architect can do the same for rental apartments. His new tower at 8 Spruce Street, just south of the Brooklyn Bridge, was designed by Frank Gehry, who gave it an undulating skin that ripples like the Statue of Liberty’s gown, but in stainless steel rather than copper.
At 867 feet, 8 Spruce Street (which for a time was known as Beekman Tower) is the tallest residential building in the city, surpassing the Trump World Tower, which would make it notable even without Gehry’s distinctive facade.
In an interview Mr. Gehry demonstrated how the folds were conceived by pinching the sleeve of his black turtleneck shirt between the fingers of his hand. But what is important to him, Mr. Gehry said, isn’t how the folds look but what they do to the interiors, which unfold in a riot of angled alcoves and bay windows, no two exactly the same.
With more than 600 different apartment layouts, potential renters may want to see dozens of units before selecting one to live in. That could be a headache for the building’s rental agents, who will begin showing units by the end of the first quarter next year, said MaryAnne Gilmartin, an executive vice president of Forest City Ratner.
Several hundred apartments, on the building’s lower floors, will hit the market at that time, she said. Additional sections of the building will be rented as they are completed over the course of about a year.
Ms. Gilmartin said that, after looking at other high-end rental buildings, including Silver Towers on West 42nd Street, she thought rents might be about $80 per square foot per year.
That would put the rent for the smallest apartment at 8 Spruce Street — a 450-square-foot-studio — at $3,000 a month.
But Ms. Gilmartin said that if demand was strong enough, the company would have no qualms about raising the prices “even over the course of a single day.”
She said she also would not be surprised to get preemptive offers for some of the top-floor apartments. Forest City Ratner was even considering leaving one or more floors unfinished — something rarely if ever done in a rental building — for tenants who would like to customize their units.
If the apartments do command high rents, it will mean a big payday for Forest City Ratner. One reason is that the company received tax abatements, under a program originally meant to stimulate construction of affordable housing. (In 2006, Community Board 1 passed a resolution criticizing the city’s Department of Housing Preservation and Development for giving the 20-year abatement to a building with no affordable housing component.)
Another is that the undulating facades cost the company only slightly more than it would have spent on conventional curtain walls, Mr. Gehry and Ms. Gilmartin said.
Mr. Gehry said he wanted to dispel a rumor that the building’s south side is completely flat because he needed to cut costs. “It cost exactly the same,” said Mr. Gehry, who produced a geode from a shelf in his office to demonstrate the effect he was going for: a rough volume with one very smooth surface.
Since 2004, when the project was first announced, it has had as many ups and downs as the facades have folds. Originally, the top floors were to contain condominiums. Forest City Ratner brought in the real estate marketing guru Louise Sunshine to help lay out the condominiums.
But in late 2006, when it seemed as if there were too many homes coming to market in Manhattan, the company decided to eliminate the condos. Mr. Gehry went back to the electronic drawing board, reducing both the ceiling heights to about nine feet — which required adjustments to the facade — and changing the apartment layouts with the help of Nancy Packes, whom he described as the rental counterpart to Ms. Sunshine.
Construction on the building was halted twice, as Forest City Ratner worked out financing and labor problems. (Forest City was a development partner in the new Midtown headquarters of The New York Times Company.)
Not all of the building is covered in stainless steel. Mr. Gehry designed a simple brick enclosure for what may turn out to be one of the building’s chief selling points: an elementary school at the building’s base, with room for 630 students.
He said that he deliberately made the school of brick — even after Mr. Ratner called him and offered to pick up the tab if he wanted to continue the undulating metal facades all the way down to the ground. “I wanted to make the base part of the neighborhood,” the architect said.
Part of that base — the building’s residential lobby — already contains an undulating desk-cum-bench by Mr. Gehry. Upstairs, his firm chose finishes and fixtures, including doorknobs by Mr. Gehry for the Italian manufacturer Valli + Valli. Gehry Partners is also furnishing 18 model apartments.
Mr. Gehry said he hasn’t yet been to the top of the 76-story tower, because he is scared of taking the construction elevator attached to its west facade. But the 12 elevators serving the residential part of the building are already being tested, meaning his first trip to the top could happen soon. [/color][/b]
Because hotels are more practical for his short trips to New York, Mr. Gehry said, he has no plans to rent.
patriotizzy
Oct 6, 2010, 1:08 AM
"Mr. Ratner called him and offered to pick up the tab if he wanted to continue the undulating metal facades all the way down to the ground."
No way! I think doing so would have made it the perfect building. Oh well, can't do much about it now. I still love The Beekman <3
SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Oct 6, 2010, 2:00 AM
wow Ghery is pretty dumb....just dumb....
JSsocal
Oct 6, 2010, 2:14 AM
For what, making the bottom brick? I glad they didn't use the same undulating facade on the ground, it would have quite simply looked bad. The color combination between the two is quite good, though the detailing of the brick and the windows could definitely have been better. One thing I totally agree with is that buildings with windowed corners are not very strong, or at least it hampers the design. The Setai could have been just a little better if the windows didn't round the corners the way they do now. Think about it when looking at buildings, especially post-modern ones.
Charlie Potts
Oct 6, 2010, 6:09 PM
wow Ghery is pretty dumb....just dumb....
That would be Gehry, genius.
Aleks
Oct 6, 2010, 6:26 PM
I like the current building, but maybe having the waves come all the way down would look pretty sick. And i mean sick as is filthy! and filthy as in awesome!
we'll never know...
NYguy
Oct 6, 2010, 11:56 PM
Maybe a reclad is in order...:cool:
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Oct 7, 2010, 11:58 AM
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QuarterMileSidewalk
Oct 7, 2010, 9:25 PM
Great couple of articles... So, are we changing the thread title to 8 Spruce Street? Is that in any way official?
Aleks
Oct 8, 2010, 12:26 AM
i think it is. nyguy?
anyways, i love this tower. they need to take down that scaffolding already though!
NYC4Life
Oct 8, 2010, 4:10 AM
Love how this tower has helped to fill in the skyscraper gap between Downtown and the Civic Center.
scalziand
Oct 8, 2010, 10:41 AM
I'd have rather had a proper crown than extend the wavy cladding to ground level.
NYguy
Oct 8, 2010, 1:29 PM
Great couple of articles... So, are we changing the thread title to 8 Spruce Street? Is that in any way official?
Oh, I thought I had answered this one yesterday (darned SSP!)
It's been officially 8 Spruce since before construction. People are just more comfortable with "Beekman Tower" as opposed to the formal name, its not unusual. For example, 1 Bryant Park usually goes by the Bank of America Tower in these parts. However, if we were leasing space there, 1 Bryant Park would be what we were working with. I'm sure people who lease apartments here will be living at "8 Spruce Street". I hadn't even noticed that the thread was "Beekman Place". I just see the Beekman...:)
Bucktown718
Oct 9, 2010, 1:27 PM
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sterlippo1
Oct 9, 2010, 4:28 PM
^^^ great set Bucktown, not sure if we have see shots taken from INSIDE the Beekman:shrug: but, awesome none the less............:cheers:
NYguy
Oct 9, 2010, 5:49 PM
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Love it...
brian.odonnell20
Oct 9, 2010, 6:10 PM
i'd call this more of a structural engineering feat than an architectural one.
hunser
Oct 9, 2010, 6:35 PM
amazing pics!!! verizon looks so "small" and when viewing it from ~260m. :D
patriotizzy
Oct 9, 2010, 11:59 PM
amazing pics!!! verizon looks so "small" when viewing it from ~260m, and ugly viewing it from anywhere. :D
Fixed!!!!!
NYC4Life
Oct 10, 2010, 4:35 AM
amazing pics!!! verizon looks so "small" and when viewing it from ~260m. :D
That's actually a good thing, nobody wants to see Beekman being ruined by that eyesore of Verizon.
hunser
Oct 11, 2010, 12:30 PM
are you ready? if i were you, i would hang on to my chair! :notacrook: .
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hunser
Oct 11, 2010, 12:44 PM
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sterlippo1
Oct 11, 2010, 1:05 PM
^^^there aren't words to describe these!;) :cheers: :banana: :notacrook: :worship:
NYguy
Oct 12, 2010, 2:53 AM
Two "peeks"...
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CHAPINM1
Oct 12, 2010, 5:38 AM
I'd say it's safe to say that Barkley Condos, Woolsworth, and Beekman make a great trio! Now just imagine when 99 Church will join them!!!
hunser
Oct 15, 2010, 1:53 PM
wow, i just noticed that the beekman thread hit the 500,000 mark! :notacrook:
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sterlippo1
Oct 15, 2010, 10:28 PM
^^^ that's not a surprise:cheers: :worship:
NYguy
Oct 15, 2010, 11:32 PM
http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2010/10/15/gehry_didnt_mean_to_conquer_trump_but_oops_he_totally_did.php
Gehry Didn't Mean to Conquer Trump, But Oops, He Totally Did
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Friday, October 15, 2010, by Joey Arak
Nearly one year ago, Frank Gehry stood at the base of his throbbing Beekman Tower in Lower Manhattan, looked up, and said, "No Viagra." We all laughed. You know who probably wasn't laughing? Donald Trump, whose Trump World Tower near the United Nations is, for now, the tallest residential building in the city. The Donald wasn't pleased when Larry Silverstein announced plans to outgrow the Trump World Tower, and we can't imagine that he's thrilled with Bruce Ratner and Frank Gehry actually doing it. But it wasn't supposed to be like this, according to Franktastic.
Gehry was interviewed by architecture critic Paul Goldberger at the 92nd Street Y on Wednesday night, and Atlantic Yards Report has a recap. When asked about the Beekman Tower's height, he said: "I asked Bruce to make it one foot lower than Trump, because I didn't want to get into a pissing contest with Trump. But now that this is taller, he's going to have to build a taller one." Donald, please, he didn't mean it.
NYC4Life
Oct 16, 2010, 2:20 AM
Who's this Trump guy again? Oh yeah, the real estate guru who has forgotten about building skyscrapers in his hometown New York, so others like Gehry and Barnett have taken over.
NYguy
Oct 18, 2010, 8:04 AM
This would make a great cover for a book...
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Oct 18, 2010, 6:05 PM
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mrnyc
Oct 18, 2010, 6:47 PM
nice shots up here wow!
too bad about that pace college schlocktower :yuck:
dchan
Oct 18, 2010, 7:59 PM
This would make a great cover for a book...
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That could be a scene from Batman: The Animated Series. You know, the ones in which Batman has inhaled The Scarecrow's fear-inducing agents. And now he has to climb up a skyscraper to rescue the mayor, only his fear of heights has been brought out front-and-center and is represented by the skyscraper that's now rippling and melting before his eyes.
RoldanTTLB
Oct 19, 2010, 1:59 AM
No photos, but there are now lights on in the building at night and it's clear that at least drywall is in up to the second setback.
Troubadour
Oct 19, 2010, 3:38 AM
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It's dreamlike, and somehow Gothic. Forward-looking, and yet a profound addition to the totality of traditional Gotham. Architects looking to add to the NY skyline need to study this far more than glass-box buildings like BoA. I may have been initially skeptical, but seeing it now, I absolutely worship the Beekman.
patriotizzy
Oct 19, 2010, 5:41 AM
That could be a scene from Batman: The Animated Series. You know, the ones in which Batman has inhaled The Scarecrow's fear-inducing agents. And now he has to climb up a skyscraper to rescue the mayor, only his fear of heights has been brought out front-and-center and is represented by the skyscraper that's now rippling and melting before his eyes.
Are you some kind of story-teller? You've got good imagination lol.
hunser
Oct 19, 2010, 6:02 PM
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dchan
Oct 19, 2010, 8:19 PM
Are you some kind of story-teller? You've got good imagination lol.
I wish I can say yes, but no. That's essentially what happens in the series. Sort of.
Batman's fears are only about his parents and the mugger who killed them - the fear-inducing agent brings out a distorted vision of the alley his parents were shot in. I switched his fear with Robin, who was apparently afraid of heights (weirdly enough, since he was (a) a crime fighter who chases criminals on rooftop-to-rooftop, and (b) a former trapeze artist. It might have been his parents death falling from the trapeze that brought the fear out.)
Take a look:
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Innsertnamehere
Oct 19, 2010, 9:04 PM
are they renovating the Brooklyn bridge?
JSsocal
Oct 19, 2010, 10:39 PM
Yes they are renovating the Brooklyn Bridge, and it looks like they are already giving it a fresh coat of paint.
SkyscrapersOfNewYork
Oct 19, 2010, 11:14 PM
are they renovating the Brooklyn bridge?
yup its in the process of a long needed renovation that will conclude in 2014
heres an article
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Brooklyn Bridge to Get Structural, Cosmetic Makeover
At 125 years old, it's time for the Brooklyn Bridge to undergo a little fix-up work. The Dept. of Transportation is about to begin a multi-year series of projects to shore up Roebling's bridge structurally, as well as give it a cosmetic touch-up. Popular Mechanics recently named the Brooklyn Bridge one of the top ten pieces of national infrastructure most in need of repair, although those concerns were primarily directed at the on- and off-ramps to the span.
Cracks on the ramps leading to and from the bridge will be repaired between 2009 and 2014 and their supports will be strengthened. The ramp from the eastern side of the bridge to the FDR will also be widened to two lanes to ease traffic. The Bridge's block arches--weakened by salt and water--will be reinforced to make them more earthquake resistant.
A two-year project will also be undertaken to paint the bridge a light beige coffee color, to restore the original appearance of the span. That job will be performed by a pair of barges beginning in the middle of the East River and working towards the Brooklyn and Manhattan shores. Following the collapse of the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis, major spans underwent inspections and the Brooklyn Bridge scored fairly low on a 7-point scale of
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Oct 20, 2010, 12:07 PM
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patriotizzy
Oct 20, 2010, 7:15 PM
I wish I can say yes, but no. That's essentially what happens in the series. Sort of.
Batman's fears are only about his parents and the mugger who killed them - the fear-inducing agent brings out a distorted vision of the alley his parents were shot in. I switched his fear with Robin, who was apparently afraid of heights (weirdly enough, since he was (a) a crime fighter who chases criminals on rooftop-to-rooftop, and (b) a former trapeze artist. It might have been his parents death falling from the trapeze that brought the fear out.)
Take a look:
dVihrTAqF70
Oh wow, well you sure bring up interesting points lol.
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Oct 22, 2010, 2:55 AM
today
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hunser
Oct 22, 2010, 10:20 AM
:previous: nice!
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the flat side...
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sterlippo1
Oct 22, 2010, 11:25 AM
:previous: STUD!:worship:
NYC4Life
Oct 22, 2010, 11:03 PM
The tower would be equally spectacular if all the sides were flat.
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Oct 23, 2010, 4:52 PM
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sterlippo1
Oct 23, 2010, 4:59 PM
it's tragic that the God-awful Verizon building ruins every picture it's in...........it is so hideous that you can't help but see it first when looking at any picture its in. it would only be somewhat less hideous if they removed the Verizon logo........
NYguy
Oct 25, 2010, 9:46 PM
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Oct 25, 2010, 10:04 PM
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hey is it just me or does the Beekman look like its kinda alone with tall buildings in that area?
sterlippo1
Oct 26, 2010, 10:17 AM
thanks for the Beekman fix, i was having withdrawal:D :worship:
patriotizzy
Oct 26, 2010, 5:31 PM
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omfg, I want to marry the Beekman building. Looks so handsome and beautiful :P
Dac150
Oct 26, 2010, 9:10 PM
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In a word, Iconic.
NYguy
Oct 27, 2010, 2:36 PM
omfg, I want to marry the Beekman building. Looks so handsome and beautiful :P
That can be done. I now pronounce you man and Beekman...;)
patriotizzy
Oct 27, 2010, 7:05 PM
That can be done. I now pronounce you man and Beekman...;)
I will now kiss the Beekman... (Someone buy me some tickets to NYC).
SD_Phil
Oct 27, 2010, 7:41 PM
So when is this building ready for occupancy? I want to see this beauty with some life in it.
RoldanTTLB
Oct 27, 2010, 8:28 PM
1.) occupancy early 2011.
2.) That view over the seaport won't be long for this world if the bankruptcy case puts the site into the hands of a developer willing to build the awesome tower proposed for that spot.
Obey
Oct 27, 2010, 9:03 PM
So when is this building ready for occupancy? I want to see this beauty with some life in it.
I agree. At night it just looks like a bunch of construction lights. You can barely make it out.
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