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Coyett

04-09-2005, 08:20 AM

Taipei Dome
Project Type: BOT
Location: Guangfu North Rd. & Chung Hsiao East Rd.
Status: Proposed
Capacity:45,000
Primary Use: Baseball
*The project is going through another design phase - all of the renderings below are of past proposals.

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/746taipei-dome-921-2.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/746taipei-dome-9-21.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/746taipei-dome-4.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/746taipei-dome-03.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/746taipei-dome-2.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746taipei-stadium-new22.jpghttp://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746taipei-stadium-ssp1.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746sys1.jpg

Taoyuan County Dome
Project Type: 70 year BOT
Location: Jhongli (Taoyuan THSRC Station Zone)
Status: Proposed
Capacity: 30,000
Primary Use: Baseball
Site: 9.7 hectares

Budget: NT$18.1 billion (US$562 million)
Central Government: NT$3.35 billion
Taoyuan County: NT$3.35 billion
Though a BOT agreement has been reached, government funding for the project has yet to be finalized.

Promotional Image
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/555/746taoyuan_dome.jpg

Hsinchu County Stadium
Location: Jubei
Status: under construction
Capacity: 25,000

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746hsinchu_sports_park.jpghttp://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746hsinchu-sports-park2.jpg

http://www.archasia.com.tw/projects/mainp/c/c4/c4-3.jpghttp://www.archasia.com.tw/projects/mainp/c/c4/c4-2.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746hsinchu-sports-park1.jpg

Coyett

06-03-2005, 06:31 PM

The new BOT team for the Taipei Dome consists of Far Glory, HOK, and Obayashi. Their design envisions the stadium opposite the SYSM - versus the earlier approved plan that had it at the south- west corner. In addition to altering the original plan to include substantially more commercial space, they are also requesting the city to increase the height restrictions to 90m for the buildings and 75m for the stadium. Officials opposed to the plan claim repositioning the stadium will eliminate the plaza and nature park that form a link from the old factory to the memorial. Moreover, approving this proposal will also mean a complete redesign of the master plan for the BOT Sungshan site.

A chorus of city politicians are demanding that Ma declare the BOT doucument void and reopen the tender!

cps0330

06-04-2005, 08:12 AM

anyone has the rendering for the new taipei dome?

cps0330

07-06-2005, 10:13 AM

遠雄闖關失利台北巨蛋要重孵

■ 記者楊文琪／台北報導

台北巨蛋甄審結果跌破眼鏡，甄審委員會昨（5）日開會決議，不接受遠雄所提新的合作團隊，要求遠雄一個月內找回原協力廠商日本竹中工務店、原廣司建築師事務所，與市府完成議約作業，逾期將宣布廢標，擇期重新公告招標。

對於甄審委員會的決定，遠雄表示，這個結果令人遺憾與不解，已經脫離專業的考量，原來的巨蛋規劃不適合台北市政府，他們也不可能將原合作夥伴找回，後續是否要向市府求償，或參與第二次公告招標，待內部討論後再決定。遠雄的說法，形同宣告台北巨蛋已經流標。

昨天的甄審委員會從晚上6時30分開始，直到8時40分才結束，出席的16位甄審委員對於遠雄提出美國HOK、日本大林組等新的合作夥伴，同意與不同意兩派意見僵持不下，最後以投票方式表決，結果不同意者居多。

甄審委員會主席台北市財政局長李述德表示，多數甄審委員認為，當初遠雄所提台北巨蛋建設規劃案，是與日本竹中工務店、原廣司建築師事務所等合作，原團隊提出的規劃案使遠雄獲得最優申請人資格，應以原團隊的設計規劃為簽約主體，所以不同意遠雄提出的新合作團隊。

李述德強調，甄審委員僅就是否同意變更合作夥伴進行討論，沒有就美國HOK與日本大林組興建巨蛋的技術、能力、經驗與實績進行審查，也就是說，沒有否定他們的實力，如果遠雄無法以原團隊與市府簽約，此案將宣布廢標，擇期重新公告，市府將退回遠雄繳交的3,000萬元押標金。

遠雄事業團董事長趙藤雄聆聽李述德等市府官員說明後，面色極為凝重，他表示，這種結果令人無法接受，第二次招標時如果劉培森與竹中工務店以原規劃案投標，將發生智慧財產權的問題，爭議永遠沒完沒了。

教育局長吳清基則說，未來只要符合招標規範，有技術、經驗、能力的廠商，都歡迎參與投標，至於智慧財產權的問題，確實須進行認定。

李述德表示，此案爭議相當大，所以甄審委員主觀認定不同意遠雄新的團隊，市府必須接受甄審委員會的決議，依程序辦理，雖然會使台北巨蛋的興建時程往後拉長，但「切的乾乾淨淨」，對日後再公告招標未嘗不是一件好事。

台北巨蛋體育館基地位於忠孝東路四段前菸酒公賣局松山菸廠，南側與國父紀念館隔街相望，屬於台北市東區精華地段，巨蛋預定地面積達10.8公頃，採設定地上權50年方式，供廠商興建相關商業設施，總投資規模約415億元，其中民間投資金額約165至180億元間。

【2005/07/06 經濟日報】

Coyett

07-06-2005, 03:50 PM

I don't understand why the issues surrounding a new design were not resolved immediately after the break up of Liu & Far Glory. What a f**king mess!

Coyett

07-09-2005, 07:32 PM

As host of the 2009 Deaflympics, Taipei is looking for NT$2 billion (US$ 62 million) from central government to renovate Taipei Municipal Stadium. For the half the cost, Portugal built entirely new stadiums for euro 2004.

Taipei Stadium
Built: 1959
Capacity: 25,000

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746tmh-new.jpg

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/746taipei-arena-master.jpg

Estadio Algarve, pictutred below, was a venue for euro 2004. It was constructed for a mere US$34 million.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/portugal/faro/faro_algarve1.jpg

cps0330

07-10-2005, 12:35 AM

just to renovate?
w/ that much of $ i wish they rebuild the whole stadium, it looks kinda crappy next to taipei arena = =

cps0330

07-10-2005, 12:38 AM

I don't understand why the issues surrounding a new design were not resolved immediately after the break up of Liu & Far Glory. What a f**king mess!

lol apprently the new design has some issues about 1st and 3rd outfield seatings, lets just hope the next design will be better

Coyett

07-11-2005, 05:51 PM

GOVERNMENT OKS 2009 KAOHSIUNG WORLD GAMES MAIN STADIUM PROJECT
2005/07/04

Taipei, July 4 (CNA) The Council for Economic Planning and
Development (CEPD) approved Monday a project to construct the main stadium for the 2009 Kaohsiung World Games but cut the construction budget from an initially proposed NT$9.2 billion to NT$5 billion, with another NT$793 million earmarked for organizing the games. The reason given for reducing the budget was that 40,000 seats will be enough to host the opening and closing ceremonies of the games, not the proposed 70,000 seats. Still, once completed, the stadium will be Taiwan's largest.
If need be, the stadium can be expanded into a 55,000-seat
structure suitable for hosting Asian Games, said Li Kao-hsiang,
director of sports facilities at the National Council on Physical
Fitness and Sports.
The 2009 World Games will feature 31 official sports and three
demonstration sports, with over 3,000 athletes and support staff from 90 countries participating, Li said. The CEPD said the stadium project will create a synergy for southern Taiwan sports, leisure, entertainment and tourism industries
and boost the local economy. The construction contract will be awarded in accordance with government regulations and the private sector will be invited to join in the operation of the stadium after the games.
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City gives assurance to stadium bid firms Kaohsiung says World Games project will not resemble Guggenheim debacle

July 9, 2005
South China Morning Post

INFRASTRUCTURE

Tim Culpan in Taipei

Taiwan's Kaohsiung city government yesterday outlined an ambitious plan to tender and complete a sports park and stadium in three years, playing down concerns over the island's public tender environment.

City officials told potential bidders yesterday the budget was assured and the project would proceed smoothly without political problems.

Domestic and foreign companies are being invited to bid for the right to build a 40,000-seat sports stadium on a 19-hectare site that will play host to the 2009 World Games. The winning bidder will need to begin work in January next year, and complete the project by January 2009.

However, foreign and local construction companies have shied away from large -scale government building tenders in the wake of last year's Guggenheim debacle.
Taichung City had secured an agreement from the Guggenheim foundation to build a branch of the famed museum in the central Taiwan city, but the deal fell through because of budget concerns. It may be revived if the money can be secured.

Kaohsiung will not face the same problem, according to acting mayor Chen Chi -mai. Kaohsiung's elected mayor, Frank Hsieh, is now the premier of Taiwan.

"The main problem that arose out of that Guggenheim project was that city councillors were apprehensive about site selection, the Taiwan government already approved the budget so it was a city government problem," Mr Chen said.

However, the problem was that budgetary promises from the Taiwan government came too late for the Guggenheim foundation while Taichung city councillors had declined to bankroll the US$ 250 million project.

Kaohsiung's World Games Stadium budget is NT$ 5 billion ($ 1.2 billion) and will be funded entirely by the central government, said Charles Lin, director of the Kaohsiung City Bureau of Public Works. The budget has already been approved and secured, he said.

Despite the assurance of funds, foreigner bidders remained concerned about the bidding and construction environment which fails to meet international standards.

"Right now the laws are not good enough, it's not a good environment for foreign companies," said Matthieu Lefort, commercial attache for the French Institute in Taipei. "They have a feeling that there's a third way, a Taiwan way."

Despite claims the World Stadium will be an international project, foreign participation will be severely limited. Among the restrictions is the limitation of foreign involvement in joint-tenders on the design and construction supply portions of the project. Construction, architecture and even water and electrical appliances must be completed by Taiwan firms.

The winning bidder will not be allowed to hire foreign labour, Mr Lin said. Labour from Thailand and Indonesia is common in Taiwan.

Coyett

07-20-2005, 07:09 AM

Far Glory spars with Taipei City

STADIUM PROJECT: A spat between the Far Glory Group and the city is escalating over the make-up of the team of firms that is supposed to build the dome stadium
By Jessie Ho
STAFF REPORTER
Wednesday, Jul 20, 2005,Page 10
The Far Glory Group (遠雄企業團), leader of an alliance contracted to construct Taipei's first dome stadium, yesterday refused to accept a Taipei City Government review committee's July 5 rejection of changes to its construction team, and said it plans to take the issue to an international court for arbitration.

"We hope the city government will hold a public hearing to clarify the doubtful decision-making process, or we will take legal action against the committee to defend our interests," Chao Teng-hsiung (趙藤雄), chairman of Far Glory, told a press conference yesterday.

In mid-May, a construction team led by Far Glory won the contract to build the multi-function stadium on the site of the historic Sungshan Tobacco Factory (松山菸廠) in downtown Taipei. The construction of the 45,000-seat stadium was supposed to begin last September and be completed in December 2007.

But Far Glory was forced to make changes to its team after Ricky Liu & Associates (劉培森建築師事務所), the appointed designer of the stadium, pulled out of the build-operate-transfer (BOT) project in October last year after a disagreement over the allotment of shares in a planned dome company.

A Taipei City Government review committee agreed to let Far Glory replace its construction team, as long as the substitute's capability was equivalent to or better than the original one.

After a meeting in May and one last Tuesday, the committee ruled that the new team, made up of HOK Sport+Venue+Event and Japanese construction firm Obayashi Corp, was not as good as the original one, composed of Ricky Liu & Associates, Japanese constructor Takenaka Corp and Japanese architect Hiroshi Hara.

The committee then demanded that Far Glory retain the old team, or re-tender its bid.

Chao defended the new team, and said that HOK is the top choice for the Taipei Superdome. Chao described the firm as the world's best stadium designer, having completed seven Olympic stadium projects and 10 stadiums with over 40,000 seats each. Although Takenaka, one of the original team members, has designed several large stadiums in Japan, including the Osaka Dome and the Nagoya Dome, it pales in comparison to HOK in terms of the size of its staff, experience and number of projects accomplished, Chao said.

Paul Henry, senior principal of HOK who also attended the press conference, added that the alliance's design is better than Takenaka's proposal, which copies the Sapporo Dome.

"We are offended by the [committee's] suggestion that we don't have the best experience to design the dome," Henry said.

Chao further said he suspected that Ricky Liu (劉培森) had colluded with the committee members to pass the resolution after Chao declined to consent to Liu's request for a considerable kickback of around NT$4 billion to NT$5 billion from the project.

In response, Lee Sush-der (李述德), director of the Taipei City Government's Department of Finance and the commissioner of the committee, said that Far Glory can appeal to the city government through the proper administrative procedures. The committee will decide what to do after receiving official notice from the company, he said.

Australiasian

07-20-2005, 08:42 AM

hope it doesn't turn into another deadlock project, in which the project is not going any way till the dispute is over. i think far glory is a pretty dodgy company (i.e the company loves to rip-off contractors by holding onto their payments for as long as possible or simply don't pay them for the work performed, and there has been repeated reports on dodgy construction quality of their past projects too...). i believe it's actually a good thing that far glory fails to win the stadium project. ;)

Coyett

07-20-2005, 09:10 AM

I don't know your sources, but Far Glory has been around for thirty-five years. They built the Black Pearl in Neihu, Ocean Park in Hualien, Free trade Cargo Terminal in Taoyuan, and the MIFC in Sungshan. As far as I know, they actually have a good reputation for innovation and quality construction.

Far Glory is proposing HOK, global leaders in stadium construction, design the new dome, but the city says they are not qualified. :rolleyes:

Australiasian

07-20-2005, 12:37 PM

it's from a chinese source, next magazine (perhaps around a year ago). it was stated in the magazine, that the hualien ocean park project has forced numerous contractors out of business due to mr chao's unwillingness to pay for the work performed. it also stated the far glory's business practice of substituting pre-specified building materials for cheaper alternatives. those practices are obviously utilised to make bonanzas for the company, either by exploiting smaller players or making compromises in undesirable areas. however, the source is somewhat unreliable hence should not be taken with full credit.

Coyett

07-20-2005, 04:40 PM

I'd be surprised if the story in Next is more than 9 months old. When the contract was orginally awarded there was nothing but praise from local media. The print campaign to take down FG only started after Liu & Far Glory stopped cooperating. I'm not defending them, but it seems to me that the claims in the Next article apply to every construction company in Taiwan. The Taiwanese construction industry has put garbage mixed with concrete in support peirs, used radioactive rebar, and regularly bribed officials to grant construction permits in locations prone to landslides. Standards in Taiwan are shockingly low...... I think it's a bit unfair to blame FG for a problem that exists within every facet of society.

Australiasian

07-21-2005, 04:44 AM

i guess you are right, to an extend taiwan does have a myriad of dodgy construction companies. from my understanding, the original Japanese constructor Takenaka Corp and Japanese architect Hiroshi Hara pulled out bcz far glory was going to slash the origin construction fund to an extend that was deemed unsafe to construct and unprofitable for the japanese partners and the outcome was the dissolution of the original team.

kidd

07-24-2005, 12:25 AM

My friend told me that Taipei Dome is almost near its completion. She lives close by it!

kidd

07-24-2005, 12:27 AM

My friend told me that Taipei Dome is almost near its completion. She lives close by it!

kidd

07-24-2005, 12:27 AM

My friend told me that Taipei Dome is almost near its completion. She lives close by it!

duabi

07-24-2005, 01:34 AM

I think you are talking about Taipei Arena.

kidd

07-26-2005, 04:18 AM

I think you are talking about Taipei Arena.

You are right! Sorry... since, she spoke to me in chinese = little taipei dome (egg). Thus, I mis-typed it here.

:nuts:

Coyett

07-26-2005, 05:57 PM

They're easy to confuse. Your friend is correct that the arena is just about completed....... and I think it looks fantastic!

http://english.taipei.gov.tw/web/upload/112202191212900.jpg

cps0330

07-27-2005, 05:23 AM

i must say the interior looks a lot better than i imagined
thx for the pic

finally taipei has some decent indoor arean for concerts and sports!

Coyett

08-06-2005, 04:54 PM

Here's a link to the Kaohsiung Stadium Competition website:
http://worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/

http://worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/EnV/PlanE.gif

http://worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/EnV/PlanE2.gif

Australiasian

08-13-2005, 02:38 PM

i think the site is still under construction :(

Coyett

08-20-2005, 01:25 PM

The controversial FG/HOK design for the Taipei Dome:
http://www.farglory.com.tw/Sale/d1/images/0.jpg
Original design:
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/556/746taipei-dome-9-21.jpg

more info on the battle can be found here - http://www.farglory.com.tw/Sale/d1.htm

cps0330

08-24-2005, 11:40 AM

北市府近期宣布台北巨蛋流標

■ 記者楊文琪／台北報導

台北巨蛋BOT案恐將二度公告招標。

台北巨蛋籌備處昨（23）日指出，遠雄提送的日本竹中工務店等協力廠商合作意願書，是在退出遠雄團隊前的文件，不符規定。因此，全案已呈報公文給台北市長馬英九，待完成行政程序後，將回函告知遠雄，並宣布流標，擇期辦理第二次公告招標作業。

對於市政府的決定，遠雄公共事務室協理蔡宗易認為，市府對竹中工務店退出遠雄團隊的認定，是依「事實」行事，並非「依法」做為。因此，待收到市府正式公文後，遠雄會提出因應策略。

蔡宗易強調，竹中工務店同意參加台北巨蛋興建團隊的合作意願書，是經過我駐日代表處和日本東京法務局的公證，具有法律效力。現在市府以「全天下都知道竹中工務店退出遠雄團隊」的事實，來否定法律效力，根本就是運用行政權干擾此案推動的做法。

他進一步指出，遠雄已決定採行政救濟與循法律途徑雙管齊下來維護自身權益。在行政救濟方面，上月底已對甄審委員會做出不同意遠雄變更協力廠商的決議，提送異議書給市府；循法律途徑部分，則等市府正式宣布流標、重新公告時，再依法提出。

台北巨蛋籌備處官員表示，22日下午遠雄提送的協力廠商日本竹中工務店合作意願書，是在其退出團隊成員前的文件，但甄審委員會要求的是新的合作意願書，以證明竹中仍願意與遠雄合作，及符合甄審委員會要求「找回原協力廠商」的決議。

官員說，22日是遠雄提送文件的最後期限，現在時間已到，不會再通知遠雄補件。昨天，巨蛋籌備處已把此案公文簽報給市長，待市長批示後，即會正式發文給遠雄告知此案流標，並依規定來領回繳交的3,000萬元押標金。

至於第二次招標時間，相關官員表示，在完成招標規範檢討後，可於一至二個月內公告，所以推估第二次公告招標時間最快在10月中旬左右。

【2005/08/24 經濟日報】

kidd

08-26-2005, 05:05 AM

yap! And I heard that this action will further delay project completion for another 4~5 years!!!

kidd

08-26-2005, 05:38 AM

http://www.epochtimes.com.tw/i6/5081204111535.jpg

Razqal

08-29-2005, 07:56 PM

Ice-skating rink to open next month

Figure skater Chang Chiung-wen yesterday performs at the new ice-skating rink of the Taipei Arena, known as the Little Dome. The dome is set to open to the public on a trial basis starting September.
PHOTO: CHEN TSE-MING, TAIPEI TIMES
The nation's first world-class ice-skating rink will open next month for a trial period, the Taipei City Public Works Department Commissioner William Chen (陳威仁) said during an inspection of the construction site yesterday.

The new rink is part of the Taipei Arena, known as the Little Dome, located in downtown Taipei.

The dome is set to open on a trial basis starting next month. If everything runs smoothly, the facility will officially open on Dec. 1.

The rink consists of two major parts: the main field and a sub-field.

For the former, the gymnasium of the multi-functional dome will serve as a rink and be covered with ice when needed for skating. [b]The sub-field is a smaller field that will be covered by ice all year round.

The department is scheduled to hold a ceremony next Tuesday to celebrate the completion of the rink. Taipei Mayor Ma Ying-jeou (馬英九) will personally attend the ceremony. He inspected the site last month, saying he had high hopes for it.

Some professional skaters from the Chinese Taipei Skating Union (中華民國滑冰協會) were invited to skate two days ago, and said they were pleased with the results.

The city is planning to host several Asian ice-skating competitions at the rink later this year. The dome will also be able to host ice hockey and other winter games by adjusting the hardness of the ice.

The dome has 10,000 seats, which can be expanded up to 15,000 seats if necessary. It will be able to accommodate sporting events, concerts, exhibitions, and other large activities.

The dome has two underground and five above ground floors, with a total space of 88,000m2. The rink itself is 1,800m2.

According to the ETTV Group (東森集團), which will be in charge of the operation of the rink, ticket prices have not been decided. But some reports say that skaters can expect to pay between NT$200 and NT$300 per person for entry to the rink.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2005/08/27/20050826204522.jpeg

Razqal

08-29-2005, 07:58 PM

i thought this dome is supposed to have 30,000 seats?

and how does a tropical island even have figure skaters? i didn't think taiwan even had ice skating rinks.

Pangu

08-30-2005, 02:13 PM

Why can't a tropical island have figure skaters? Indoor ice skating rinks are common throughout the whole world.

Australiasian

08-30-2005, 03:01 PM

isn't taiwan a sub-tropical island?

Coyett

08-30-2005, 03:08 PM

The photos posted by Kidd are of the Taipei Arena....the local "journalists" often mistakenly refer to the building in English as the dome...which it clearly is not. This building has a capacity for only 15,000 people and is located at the corner of Dunhua and Nanjing. Now, the Taipei dome is a completely different project across town on the site of the old Sungshan opium factory. It WILL BE a multi-use baseball stadium with a capacity of over 30,000. The project was originally awarded to the Far Glory Group but city politics have stalled it at the proposal stage.

Razqal

08-30-2005, 11:55 PM

Coyett

08-31-2005, 05:51 AM

ya i know they were referring to the taipei arena. i actually saw it in taipei in january. i thought it was 30,000 seating. 10-15,000 is small. i still don't get why taiwan doesn't have at least one big stadium with 50,000+ seating and places like hong kong with smaller population has 80,000 seat stadiums.

The largest stadium in Hong Kong only has a capacity of 40,000. Moreover, the HK Coliseum (indoor) is even smaller than the Taipei Arena...capacity 12,500.

I think this is a better comparison:

Beijing 2008 venue for basketball = 20,000 capacity
http://www.sports-hotline.com.tw/2008beijing/images/basketball_01.jpghttp://www.sports-hotline.com.tw/2008beijing/images/basketball_02.jpghttp://www.sports-hotline.com.tw/2008beijing/images/basketball_03.jpghttp://www.sports-hotline.com.tw/2008beijing/images/basketball_04.jpghttp://www.sports-hotline.com.tw/2008beijing/images/basketball_05.jpghttp://www.sports-hotline.com.tw/2008beijing/images/basketball_06.jpg

Taipei Arena =15,000 capacity
http://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_01.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_02.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_03.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_04.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_05.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_06.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_07.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_08.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_09.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_10.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_11.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_12.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_13.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_14.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_15.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_16.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_17.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_18.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_19.jpghttp://www.figureskating.com.tw/rink/taipei/images/taipei_rink_20.jpg

Razqal

09-05-2005, 05:47 AM

that's a nice model. looks fun to build.

kidd

09-11-2005, 10:55 PM

that's a nice model. looks fun to build.

That graphic model one is completed (~15,000)

It is the Taipei Dome (baseball) with ~40,000 capacity that has yet to begin the construction.

:)

kidd

09-11-2005, 11:06 PM

雲林斗六棒球場啟用全台第二大
【民視

雲林斗六的職棒迷, 終於看球不必南北奔波, 朱丹灣棒球場傍晚由陳水扁總統主持啟用典禮, 職棒首戰就由誠泰Cobras對上興農牛(新聞、網站), 吸引上萬名球迷到現場欣賞球賽, 其中有許多是第一次到現場看球賽的球迷, 不過也因為人潮眾多, 場面顯得有些混亂台灣第二大的雲林斗六朱丹灣棒球場, 今天傍晚由陳水扁總統主持啟用典禮, 在上萬名觀眾的見證下正式啟用, 日前的簽賭案風波平息, 如今斗六棒球場啟用, 陳總統希望已經十六歲的中華職棒(新聞、網站)能夠有所成長[[so]]斗六朱丹灣棒球場擁有一萬五千名座位, 設備新穎, 開幕第一戰由誠泰出戰興農牛, 吸引近萬名球迷入場, 美中不足的是, 球場入口進行安檢, 讓球迷感到不耐煩, 不過球迷對斗六球場還是很滿意[[so]]斗六朱丹灣球場的啟用, 不只讓球迷不用南北奔波到其他縣市看球, 職棒或其他球賽的舉行, 也將間接帶動起當地的棒球風潮

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Taiwan's newest and 2nd largest baseball stadium made its debut today in Douliou of Yunlin county. With capacity of 15,000.

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball018.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball019.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball017.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball014.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball012.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball013.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball015.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball009.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball010.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball005.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball004.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball002.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/yunlin/baseball001.jpg

http://www.douliou.com.tw/douliou/baseball01.jpg

:haha:

kidd

09-25-2005, 10:22 AM

亞洲最高小巨蛋台北文化大學藍色巨蛋月底完工

大台北區體育設施頻頻落成，南京東路「小巨蛋」九月初試營運，台北市又有一萬多人體育館。好事接二連三，在陽明山上的文化大學體育館本月底也要峻工，趕在開學前啟用，一個月內，北市區多了兩顆巨蛋級體育館。

在台北市北區，從任何一個角落抬頭北望，都可看到七星山系文化大學黃色尖樓旁，巍然聳立了一幢十層樓高的藍色巨蛋，在天母運動園區更容易辨識這顆蘊涵無數運動能量的體育館，有人說它像燈籠，有人說它像飛碟，它肯定成為陽明山的新地標。

這是文化大學為紀念創校43年，斥資23億元蓋出的遠東地區大學裡最大的體育館。過去位在海拔三百多公尺的文化大學被稱為「最高學府」，這顆巨蛋落成後，將是亞洲地區「最高」的巨蛋，從十層樓高的蛋頂室外餐廳，往南俯瞰台北盆地，淡水河一衣帶水，101大樓和新光大樓如兩支尖筍，傍晚時分滿天紅霞，清風夜裡滿天星斗，體育之外，還帶來些許靈氣。

文化大學為我國培養許多運動明星，經常在國際比賽斬金奪銀，四個體育系所外今年起還可授博士學位。新的體育館是熱愛運動的董事長張鏡湖對台灣體育的奉獻，1萬7520坪樓板，讓這個多功能體育館有如一座體育城，像台大體育館的樓板就有兩層，可同時進行四場網球賽，或四場籃球賽，外帶九千人座位。從地下樓到頂樓，可同時讓一萬人從事

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/7394/289323511803314fr.jpg

Multi-purpose athletic dome, highest located dome in Asia, located at TCU's campus site (over 300 Meter above the sea level).

However, I like the new NTU athletic dome better! :cool:

cps0330

09-25-2005, 11:26 AM

i support that taiwan needs more indoor arenas and domes but i dun think build one on the top of the hill is a good idea...

kidd

09-27-2005, 04:11 AM

2009 Kaohsiung World Games Stadium

http://worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/ChV/940708.pdf

That's all I got for now.. =.=ll

Razqal

09-27-2005, 09:35 AM

http://www.worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/ChV/playbill2.gif

kidd

10-08-2005, 11:01 PM

Razqal

10-09-2005, 07:48 AM

to me the model looks better than the actual building. i prefer the big transparent windows over the small windows. but overall not bad.

kidd

10-14-2005, 09:57 PM

http://www.worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/ChV/playbill2.gif

http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/ebook/files/images/epapera03_2.jpg

http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/ebook/files/images/epapera03_5.jpg

http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/ebook/files/images/epapera03_6.jpg

http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/ebook/files/images/epaper056_2_2.jpg

http://203.75.156.140/w4_2005a/canewses/nwes360/2009.jpg

Coyett

11-01-2005, 12:38 PM

Some nice photos of Taipei Arena on this site:
http://ncp.tcg.gov.tw/ncp/TaipeiArena/index.htm

Razqal

11-03-2005, 01:46 AM

alas, taiwan has a modern and sleek international quality stadium!! woohoo!!

Coyett

12-13-2005, 02:43 PM

Kaohsiung Stadium 2009

Design competition winner: Ricky Liu / Fu Tsu

http://news.sina.com.tw/images/66/91/669191.JPG

http://www.gov.tw/news/cna_photo/images/200512/O20051206000051.jpg

Larger rendering here: http://www.worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/ChV/index02-2.htm

Australiasian

12-14-2005, 03:31 AM

wow... i like that tail!

kidd

12-22-2005, 12:18 AM

http://kaohsiungwalking.kcg.gov.tw/chinese/epaper/files/94new/no52/lib/sport.jpg

Coyett

01-10-2006, 02:13 PM

http://www.twarchitect.org.tw/2006.01/A-images/A2_04.jpg

Impressive design, I never knew Toyo Ito designed stadiums!

Complete list of team members:

互助營逨??份有限公司、日本伊東豐雄建築訨??事務所、
日本竹严??務店、劉培森建築師事務所
Fu Tsu Construction Co.,Ltd. ,Toyo Ito & Associates,Takenaka Corporation,Ricky Liu & Associates

Coyett

01-10-2006, 04:05 PM

2nd: United Steel Engineering & Construction Corporation, Taisai Corporation, Ellerbe Becket, Inc., Masao Saito, Chen Yao Dong Architect Association

http://www.twarchitect.org.tw/2006.01/A-images/A2_05.jpg

3rd: International Engineering & Construction Corporation, Linfair Engineering & Trading Ltd. HOK SPORT +VENUE+EVENT, Hwashin Architects & Associates

http://www.twarchitect.org.tw/2006.01/A-images/A2_06.jpg

4th: BES Engineering Corporation, Obayashi Corporation, Kisho Kurokawa Architect & ACCO.,ARCHASIA Design Group

http://www.twarchitect.org.tw/2006.01/A-images/A3_01.jpg

5th: Far Eastern General Contractor Co., Ltd., Shimiza Corporation ,Haigo Shen & Partners
Nikken Sekkei, Ltd

http://www.twarchitect.org.tw/2006.01/A-images/A3_02.jpg

images: Taiwan Architect

kidd

01-10-2006, 05:19 PM

Based on Taiwan Ren's rendering, actually all the other designs look just as fine as the winning design IMO :)

Australiasian

01-10-2006, 05:44 PM

me, the winning one.

kidd

01-10-2006, 05:53 PM

me, the winning one.

I remember one of the criteria for the design was the reservation of 15,000 seats for future expansion purpose in addition to the 40,~45,000 permanent seats.

I read from the government's website that the feasibility study was done based on Sidney's Olympic Stadium, in which the additional 15,000 seats were retracted after the opening of events. So, I wonder what was the final verdict on Kaoshiung's project? Will the reserve seatings be permanently fixed or retractable?

Based on the winning rendering, I don't see how it can be retracted after the event, in order to transform the unused seatings into an ample space for other userage. :sly:

kidd

01-10-2006, 11:28 PM

I remember one of the criteria for the design was the reservation of 15,000 seats for future expansion purpose in addition to the 40,~45,000 permanent seats.

I read from the government's website that the feasibility study was done based on Sidney's Olympic Stadium, in which the additional 15,000 seats were retracted after the opening of events. So, I wonder what was the final verdict on Kaoshiung's project? Will the reserve seatings be permanently fixed or retractable?

Based on the winning rendering, I don't see how it can be retracted after the event, in order to transform the unused seatings into an ample space for other userage. :sly:

If you care to read what I said, here is the official link to the issue:

http://www.worldgames2009stadium.com.tw/ChV/SA01.pdf

Coyett

01-17-2006, 06:38 PM

My understanding is that the tender only required competitors to design for the possiblity of more seating - not include it. I guess this is the reason most of the design teams left the end of the stadium open.

Coyett

04-01-2006, 04:07 AM

http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/kcgvision/4.jpg

http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/kcgvision/3.jpg

cps0330

04-01-2006, 07:36 AM

this stadium looks amazing!

duabi

04-01-2006, 08:03 AM

It's suprising that Taiwan or even Taipei doesn't have a good stadium still now! For example, Taipei Stadium and Taipei Soccer Stadium look like 3rd world infrastractures. :(

kidd

04-01-2006, 10:22 AM

Got to love the spiral curly tail~ Thanx for sharing!

:tup:

architect1

04-01-2006, 04:56 PM

wow amazing proposals for stadium buildings. alot of crazy designs. Thanksfor sharing

Coyett

04-01-2006, 05:51 PM

Seat Configuration - I'm especially impressed with the scheme to incorporate temporary seating between the upper and lower bowls.
http://pwse.kcg.gov.tw/kcgvision/9.jpg

Razqal

04-01-2006, 09:06 PM

looks and sounds great!! so when are they starting construction? I want action and no more talk!! :D

cps0330

06-19-2006, 11:35 AM

台北巨蛋遠雄取得孵蛋權

【記者王彩鸝/台北報導】

爭議一時的台北巨蛋開發計畫案，台北市政府今天召開甄審會，通過遠雄企業新協力廠商的資格審查，遠雄企業正式取得台北巨蛋「孵蛋權」，預定民國97年初動工，100年6月底前開館營運。

台北市巨蛋甄審委員會中午以七票贊成、二票反對，通過遠雄新協力廠HOK資格審查。甄選會主任秘書李述德表示，HOK 團隊的經驗、技術、實績及國際化程度都不錯，巨蛋設計團隊資格不低於原協力廠商，因此委員會通過由遠雄取得巨蛋興建營運權。

遠雄集團原本取得巨蛋BOT優先議價權，但因與建築師劉培森及竹中工務店合作告吹，更換工程團隊，卻被台北市大巨蛋甄審委員會逕行表決撤銷遠雄優先議價權。

遠雄不服，一狀告到公共工程委員會。工程會認為，市府甄審會未讓遠雄報告就投票表決，判遠雄出局，程序上不合法。台北市政府今天重開甄審會重新審查遠雄新團隊資格，遠雄集團董事長趙藤雄今天率領新協力廠商美國HOK S+V+E與日本大林組高層主管，共同接受甄審委員的「考試」。

遠雄表示，HOK S+V+E堪稱是世界第一的體育館設計團隊，由美國、倫敦、澳洲組成的國際公司，設計過七屆奧運體育館，包括2008年北京奧運，新團隊在全球總共設計了180 萬座席體育館，其中有40座4萬座席，其中8座是室內型，實績優於原來協力廠商竹中。

遠雄表示，台北巨蛋的座席是4萬個，新協力團隊的經驗毫無問題。遠雄企業董事長趙藤雄表示，邀請全世界第一的設計團隊，就是要蓋一座讓世界看得到的巨蛋，讓全世界看得到台灣。趙藤雄表示，遠雄有信心興建一座具國際水準的多功能體育館與體育園區，供民眾新的休閒娛樂場所。

【2006/06/19 聯合晚報】

http://udn.com/NEWS/DOMESTIC/DOM2/3364710.shtml

Coyett

07-01-2006, 06:22 AM

Razqal

07-01-2006, 10:44 AM

nice rendering, but which stadium and city is that for? that doesnt look like that stadium with the curvy long tail.

Australiasian

07-03-2006, 06:42 AM

^
i think far glory is doing the taipei stadium

duabi

07-03-2006, 10:12 AM

I think there is height limit in the area because of Sungshan Airport. Some part of the stadium has to be lower than the ground level just to reduce the height of the roof...

well...unless the regulation being changed or the airport moved, I don't think the towers will be taller than the roof of the stadium?

cps0330

07-03-2006, 10:12 AM

thx for the rendering
i really like the old design for taipei dome
cant wait to see the new rendering for new taipei dome!

Coyett

07-03-2006, 12:22 PM

I have a feeling the new design will be as good if not better than the original. The key to the entire project is not really the stadium, but the commercial elements that must be incorporated into the historic site. My personal preference would see HOK concentrating on the dome, Shin Takamatsu the new comercial space, and L.M. Lin the former opium factory.

pierre-laurent

07-04-2006, 01:08 AM

actually, the original design was better but the current one also please me a lot with its fluent lines.

kidd

07-07-2006, 04:43 AM

Guys, guys... don't get too excited, ok?

This is TAIWAN!! Hence, assuming DPP Hsieh won the election in Sep. Taipei Giant Egg might ended up in Guan-du. And the whole thing starts all over from squre one!

In fact, this project has been silented for over a year due to the contractor problem, local residents' protest, design flaw...etc... Even today, we don't even know what the actual rendering of the Gaint Egg suppose to look like after 2 years since the annoucement.

The project has been delayed and further delayed.... it is re-surfaced now cuz most likely due to the election been held in a couple of months imo.

So, take it easy guys! :rolleyes:

Razqal

07-07-2006, 05:56 AM

well did they start construction on kaohsiung stadium yet? they had to have started cuz world games is just a couple years away, right?

kidd

07-07-2006, 06:04 AM

well did they start construction on kaohsiung stadium yet? they had to have started cuz world games is just a couple years away, right?

Yeah, I would bet my $ on the Kaohsiung Stadium as well.

The World Game stadium is on schedule! However, the budget for on-going Kaohsiung's two Mass Transit lines are been withheld in the congress as of now.

:(

Razqal

07-07-2006, 06:05 AM

so they're not even working on the construction of the subway now? i read that it's opening end of this year tho.

kidd

07-07-2006, 06:11 AM

so they're not even working on the construction of the subway now? i read that it's opening end of this year tho.

The project is on-going, but the funds for this fiscal year (later this year to may? of next year) has been stalled due to Kaohsiung Mass Transit's ailing "safty records" in construction. Hence, further safety regulation needed to be addressed before the congress in order to secure the budget for the upcoming fiscal year.

kidd

07-07-2006, 06:22 AM

cps0330, thanks for the update.

Right, so the team of Far Glory, HOK, and Obayashi have been awarded the BOT rights to the project. Anyone know why construction is delayed until 2008?

Original Liu/Far Glory project rendering:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/TaipeiDome.jpg

Not bad.. However, I think I could draw one myself and say that's what it would look like. Cuz... honestly, this is at least the 7th renderings I've seen since the news first broke out a decade ago (when Huang or A-bian was the mayor?). Of course, the new annoucement (only progress thus far) was that site-selection was set for SongShan Factory 2 years ago under the leadership of Mayor Ma. But, that may be changed! Who knows? I am losing my patient on this EGG! :sly:

Coyett

07-19-2006, 06:11 PM

2009 Kaohsiung: Solar Stadium
12 Jul 2006 16:51

The main stadium of The World Games 2009 Kaohsiung will be the first in the world to use solar energy in conformity with a 'green building code' that promotes environmental protection, a Kaohsiung city government official said Thursday.

Lin Chin-jung, director of the Bureau of Public Works, said the stadium's spiral-shaped ceiling will have solar energy plates installed. Lin said the multi-functional stadium will not emit additional carbon dioxide and will be self-sufficient in electricity needs. He pointed out that Kaohsiung City has an average of 2,282 hours of sun per year, averaging 5.6 hours daily. If the solar energy plates receive enough sunlight, they will be able to provide 80% of the electricity needs during the operation of the stadium and 100% during the remaining time. Any surplus electricity generated could be sold.

Construction of the stadium began on Thursday, July 6, and is expected to be completed in January 2009, six months ahead of the opening of The World Games.

source: http://www.worldgames-iwga.org/

kidd

07-22-2006, 01:39 AM

GREAT NEWS!! Thanks for sharing!~ :D

Razqal

08-09-2006, 12:22 AM

i found a pic of the stadium model. that tail sure is long.

http://203.75.156.140/w4_2005a/canews/nwes360/%A5D%B3%F5%C0%5D.jpg

Coyett

11-07-2006, 03:43 PM

Construction photo of the new Taichung Baseball Stadium. It will be one of the sites for the 2006 Intercontinental Cup which begins on Thursday.

Intercontinental Cup - Taiwan, Cuba, Australia, Italy, Netherlands, Japan, South Korea
Philippines

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/New_Taichung_Baseball_Stadium.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/Taichung_Intl_Baseball_Stad.jpg

http://www.tccg.gov.tw/site/3fcc4395/42959b41/4292bb4b/files/3.jpg

Echang03

11-07-2006, 08:30 PM

Wow that looks nice, I used to drive past it this summer when i was going from 豐原 to 台中, they sure built that thing in a hurry.

Any update on the Kaohisung stadium and Taipei Dome?

linlueyfu

11-08-2006, 08:16 PM

Does Taiwan really need big stadiums like this?

ed21x

11-09-2006, 03:03 AM

Does Taiwan really need big stadiums like this?

Ever city that has a population over 2 million should have at least some major stadiums to host events.

Coyett

11-09-2006, 05:03 AM

Does Taiwan really need big stadiums like this?

The Taichung baseball stadium will only have a capacity of 15,000 - 20,000 seats and was relatively inexpensive to construct at a cost of NT$600,000,000 (US$20 million). As I'm sure you know, baseball is quite popular here. Tickets for the upcoming match between Taiwan and Korea sold out in less than three hours.

Razqal

11-09-2006, 06:38 PM

they should put luxury boxes into that stadium. it will help to increase revenue for the stadium to cover expenses.

Coyett

11-09-2006, 07:08 PM

they should put luxury boxes into that stadium. it will help to increase revenue for the stadium to cover expenses.

You would never generate enough interest from corporate Taiwan to make it profitable. Taiwanese companies invest in baseball to make money not entertain clients. A night out with customers on this island is still limited to ktv machines and prostitutes. :dancing:

Australiasian

11-10-2006, 07:38 AM

^
knock knock... keen to offer more insight? i better get another job then... my company doesnt do any of the forementioned practices. it would certainly be interesting to check out the latter. i wonder where are the prostitutes from? mainland? or...?

Coyett

11-10-2006, 04:23 PM

I'm refering to the ktv "clubs" that dominate nightlife outside of Taipei. Many salemen from smaller trading companies often end up in these type of establishments by the end of the evening. Perhaps it's a bit unfair insinuating that all of the women that work this scene are prostitutes, but from what I have witnessed it seems that given enough money almost any deal can be arranged. For some reason they seem especially popular in Taichung and Jhongli.

Coyett

11-17-2006, 03:53 PM

Razqal

11-17-2006, 04:51 PM

did you guys notice that they painted those two long structural arcs whatever-you-call-them RED insted of white! i hope it's just temporary cuz i can't picture white canopies with those red arcs. i notice taiwanese seem to like red alot - like alot of the bridges are red, red cables on bridges, red temples. must be a chinese cultural thing.

Coyett

02-02-2007, 02:20 PM

Taipei City Stadium, 2009
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/TaipeiCityStadium2.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/TaipeiCityStadium.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/TaipeiCityStadium3.jpg

Current condition
http://ttfs.tms.gov.tw/image/ttfs-1.gif

Future
http://www.skyscrapers.cn/photo/18334993.jpg

Razqal

02-03-2007, 11:08 AM

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f355/chung68/TaipeiCityStadium3.jpg

that's a small space for 2 stadiums and a track. looks cramped.

i hope they don't paint that white support structure RED. i hope...i hope...i hope...

mountsac

02-07-2007, 09:18 PM

what is the dome on the side of taipei stadium?
it's not the taipei arena right cuz that's supposed to be farther east?

before i was hoping that this is only a temp structure (for the stadium)
cuz the capacity is so small, and the strcture looks cheap from the side :yuck:
but looking at the cramped space, it seems that a future expansion is unlikely...

why can't we use that space only for one international standard stadium and move other stuffs to guandu? this thing will not help at all when we bid for the olympics in the future

and as the deaflympics is approaching, are we going to boost up our zhongshan soccer field prior to that? :sly:

Coyett

02-08-2007, 05:29 PM

what is the dome on the side of taipei stadium?
it's not the taipei arena right cuz that's supposed to be farther east?
It's Taipei Arena.

before i was hoping that this is only a temp structure (for the stadium)
cuz the capacity is so small, and the strcture looks cheap from the side :yuck:
but looking at the cramped space, it seems that a future expansion is unlikely...
This will be the main stadium for the 2009 Deaflympics. Expansion isn't required as neither field sports nor athletics are popular in Taiwan.

why can't we use that space only for one international standard stadium and move other stuffs to guandu? this thing will not help at all when we bid for the olympics in the future.
Taipei has absolutely no hope of ever hosting the Olympics. In the past, and I expect into the future, the PRC will make sure that Taipei fails at all attempts to host international sporting events of any significance. The city doesn't need an "international" stadium because it will never be used.

and as the deaflympics is approaching, are we going to boost up our zhongshan soccer field prior to that? :sly:
There is a BOT proposal in the works to renovate the stadium, but thus far no deals have been signed.

mountsac

02-08-2007, 07:14 PM

politics is an important factor. but even with that factor, i think there is a number of international events taipei can bid for other than the summer olympics. the world games that kaoshiong is hosting, and the Universiade it was attempting to bid are two examples. the special olympics is another one. the reason our new stadium has a small capacity is probably because the deaflympics doesn't attract many people (kaoshiong's stadium, on other hand, has a bigger capacity, and it looks amazing!).

while a lack of popularity of track and field in taiwan offers an economic reason, it seems to lack foresight, which is also shown in other stalled infrastructure projects on the island (such as projects that will help the east coast or mass trasit systems in cities other than taipei and kaoshiong). we are always catching up with demand rather than acticiapting and generating it. there are things we can do to bring traffic and consumption to the countryside, and there are also things we can do to stimulate sports that taiwanese are not watching now or/and are not good at.

i don't wanna sound like i'm arguing, cuz i'm not. i totally agree that conservative economic planning is a valid option for urban planning. i'm just hoping there will be more pro-active (sometimes risk-taking) measures taken by the gov. in some development. maybe i'm just bitching cuz i wanna see more skyscrapers and bigger (AND better looking) stadium :D