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Chitown

Oct 31, 2007, 4:38 PM

I think the cornice has always been there.

Will the framework start comming down once the building is above the facade? Or will it stay up for the duration?
That's what I was wondering. I'm hoping they take it down.

cbotnyse

Oct 31, 2007, 5:04 PM

any reasonable guesses as to when we might see this one pop up above the Michigan Ave wall?

SamInTheLoop

Oct 31, 2007, 5:06 PM

Construction has reached the level of the cornices on the old buildings. In a matter of days, they should start pouring the first of the tower floors (if they haven't started already!).

I'm not so sure about that - I think the base extends quite a bit higher than the top of the preserved facades (if I'm not mistaken the base is a total of 12 or 13 floors) before the actual tower floors begin. Can anyone confirm? I know there are renderings that have been posted here a while back where you can get a sence for the height of the base...

mkdr2

Oct 31, 2007, 8:50 PM

The garage goes to 12. Condos start on 15. 13 will be squash courts for the University Club, which will be connected by a sky bridge. 14 will be the pool and gym. There will be a 30 foot grass roofed setback on the old building fronts for a dog run for the residents pets.

ChitownJay

Nov 1, 2007, 3:04 AM

I challenge any of you who are whining about the lack of photos of the Legacy to go over there and try to take a decent shot yourself.

The sidewalk in front of the site is completely walled off. There's no way of sticking your camera up over the top of the wall and snapping a photo. The sidewalk on the other side of the street is under construction, so it has additional barriers up. The 'L' tracks run down the middle of the street which also block off any decent view of the site from the street. AND to top it all off the building is being constructed behind preserved facades which further obscure the view.

Good luck! :tup:

If anyone wants to take a panoramic picture from an inverted 90 feet from the Wabash St. curb view from the 11th floor just to the west of this site, call me at 312-793-4904 on Friday and bring your camera. No more than 3 contestants please. First three photographers that call will be allowed in at staggered times.

SolarWind

Nov 1, 2007, 8:14 AM

October 30, 2007

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2486/dsc0068ge2.jpg
^ Legacy's crane is visible in front of the Sears Tower.

F1 Tommy

Nov 1, 2007, 1:56 PM

Nice shot Solarwind!!I love that spot by MP.

Alliance

Nov 1, 2007, 2:04 PM

any reasonable guesses as to when we might see this one pop up above the Michigan Ave wall?

A while back, the developer said before the year is out.

Knightwing

Nov 1, 2007, 2:36 PM

^Yea, VERY nice shot.

djvandrake

Nov 1, 2007, 5:09 PM

Solar, that is an incredible picture. THANKS! Good to see Legacy peeking out and on the rise.

Northwest

Nov 2, 2007, 5:25 AM

Legacy will soon be an often discussed project. Of course, only after we are able to actually see what is going on behind the scenes! :D
Almost there! This one will shoot up like a rocket in 2008.

Dr. Taco

Nov 2, 2007, 5:47 AM

no more sears from millenium park?

wannaBEtall

Nov 2, 2007, 12:04 PM

no more sears from millenium park?

Yea I know millenium park is pretty long, and this building is incredible! But, I thought the exact same thing. Too bad it will obstruct some peoples' ST views.

DHamp

Nov 2, 2007, 4:38 PM

^^ Remember: Legacy is a wedge shaped tower with the thinner side facing Grant Park. I think it may just spare the ST views from that angle... or at least it won't completely block it.

Monkey36

Nov 11, 2007, 4:43 PM

About a week ago I noticed that the thin red poles going from floor to ceiling that are/were all over the place had been removed on a couple of floors. Not sure what this means, exactly, but it might be something.

jjk1103

Nov 14, 2007, 4:14 AM

kayosthery

Nov 14, 2007, 1:40 PM

...these are probably "pole shores" ....they are removed when the concrete sets.....

:yes: 2 "framed" floors and 2 "reshored" floors. The pole shores taken down from the lowest floor are used as material to frame the next floor.

jjk1103

Nov 19, 2007, 3:10 AM

...i went by the site today. They are at (very near) the top of the Wabash street wall.............but it still impossible to see anything from Wabash.

jjk1103

Nov 19, 2007, 3:11 AM

Northwest

Nov 19, 2007, 4:46 PM

I love this building, I cant wait until the site is more visible. Such a tease when we get fantastic photos of all the other Chicago projects on an almost daily basis.

jjk1103

Nov 25, 2007, 2:32 PM

...........where do they stage material at this site ? ....the site seems so cramped....

harryc

Nov 25, 2007, 10:39 PM

Its been awhile.......here ya go

I think they are forming up the mat at the south end
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/5-6.jpg

No basement ? what a waste of the vaulted sidewalk :)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8494/p1040872fg1.jpg

Great shots McStructures, BVic, and Solar. I was only slightly aware of this one, being able to go back through the past year is great.

It still seems wrong not to have a basement in a multi floor building, much less a skyscraper like this or Aqua.

SolarWind

Nov 28, 2007, 2:19 AM

November 27, 2007

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3369/dsc0127ta1.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3884/dsc0129mh3.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6519/dsc0130ct0.jpg

^ visible from the corner of Wabash & Monroe

10023

Nov 28, 2007, 3:02 AM

Are you sure there's no basement? Maybe they dig that out underneath or something? Aqua I understand because with the multi-level streets, the podium is a basement, at least from the west.

Alliance

Nov 28, 2007, 3:56 AM

There are some construction photos on the Legacy website. Nothing fance, but perhaps of interest to everyone. http://www.thelegacyatmillenniumpark.com/construct_photos.asp

Also, did we ever decide what the color of the glass is? Blue or green?

McStructures

Nov 28, 2007, 4:32 AM

This one pic is from about 3 weeks ago, sorry its all I have. The new structure is probably above the original facade by now.

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/11707138.jpg

BVictor1

Nov 28, 2007, 5:44 AM

...........where do they stage material at this site ? ....the site seems so cramped....

The alley and directly in front of the site on Wabash.

Chi649

Nov 30, 2007, 4:39 AM

today

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2660/dsc09111pk4.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2999/dsc09113kw5.jpg

Chi649

Nov 30, 2007, 5:19 AM

also today

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jjk1103

Dec 11, 2007, 9:38 PM

...I don't suppose anyone has any new pics? ....this one should be getting visible above the Wabash streetwall now !!

McStructures

Dec 12, 2007, 4:53 AM

What? Did someone say something about pics?????

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407016.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407017.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407018.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407019.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407027.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407028.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407030.jpg

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/12407043.jpg

honte

Dec 12, 2007, 5:25 AM

:worship: Thanks MC!

Such a curious project....

Northwest

Dec 12, 2007, 5:37 AM

Thanks to McStructures for the hard-to-get pics! :tup:
Does the top deck currently U/C still look to be partially angled, meaning that these are still floors for the parking structure?

Chitown

Dec 12, 2007, 5:43 AM

:worship: Thanks MC!

Such a curious project....
Seconded. I'm a huge fan of this project; love the updates!

i_am_hydrogen

Dec 12, 2007, 2:51 PM

Seconded. I'm a huge fan of this project; love the updates!

Thirded. I've been dying for a Legacy update. From my vantage point at work, it still has a little ways to go before it breaks out above the surrounding buildings. I can't wait to see this one rise; it's truly going to transform the "post card" view of the skyline.

djvandrake

Dec 12, 2007, 6:18 PM

Fourthed! :lol: Many thanks for the great pics MC. :tup:

mkdr2

Dec 12, 2007, 10:03 PM

Legacy starts wedge shape on 15. Parking through 12. I can't wait to see this start climbing above the Michigan street wall.

SolarWind

Dec 13, 2007, 4:36 AM

What? Did someone say something about pics?????

Wow! Thanks for the update, McStructures! :tup:

SolarWind

Dec 13, 2007, 4:38 AM

December 12, 2007

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6973/dsc0112qd0.jpg

Here's one of mine from today. The core has just cleared the Michigan Avenue streetwall from certain vantage points.

Nowhereman1280

Dec 13, 2007, 4:42 AM

Too bad this will block the view of Hyatt Center from the park! One of my favorites of the boom!

Alliance

Dec 13, 2007, 5:05 AM

Too bad this will block the view of Hyatt Center from the park! One of my favorites of the boom!
:cool:

Ecker

Dec 14, 2007, 6:47 PM

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/EckerTallness/Construction%2012-14/IMG_4182.jpg

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/EckerTallness/Construction%2012-14/IMG_4183.jpg

Northwest

Dec 15, 2007, 2:03 AM

Thanks for the pics! Looking forward to this one rising tall above the Michigan Ave steetwall.

harryc

Dec 15, 2007, 2:51 AM

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/EckerTallness/Construction%2012-14/IMG_4183.jpg

Trusses and Trusses - thx

aaron38

Dec 19, 2007, 9:02 PM

An interesting tidbit of news following some links in the article on Walton-on-the-Park posted in the rundown:
http://chicagorealestatedaily.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=27097

Legacy is reported as 85% sold, 53 units left and selling ~1 a week. They'll be sold out before they top out.

Rocket1

Dec 20, 2007, 4:09 AM

Legacy is reported as 85% sold, 53 units left and selling ~1 a week. They'll be sold out before they top out.

That's great to hear. One probable reason they're selling well is that the condos are "reasonably" priced at ~$650/sq ft.

Not to mention location, location, location.

Alliance

Dec 20, 2007, 7:19 AM

/views :cool:

aaron38

Dec 27, 2007, 2:48 AM

Even from the El, this one's hard to lock down. From a Green Line train:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%2012-26-07/IMG_0076.jpg

From the lakefront, a zoom can catch it beginning to peak over the Mich Ave streetwall:
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%2012-26-07/IMG_0096.jpg

jjk1103

Jan 3, 2008, 11:18 PM

............where will the main entrance be located ?

aaron38

Jan 4, 2008, 12:19 AM

The building only has frontage on Wabash. There are buildings on either side, and the back is an alley.

honte

Jan 4, 2008, 2:03 AM

............where will the main entrance be located ?

Very interestingly, the plans showed that they were going to take the storefont of the Sharpe building and use that as the lobby. Can anyone confirm this is still the idea?

mkdr2

Jan 4, 2008, 2:41 AM

The entrance is on Monroe. They are using a portion of the first floor of the building on Monroe and Wabash. If I remember correctly from my plans, its almost half of the 1st floor.

Ecker

Jan 7, 2008, 12:43 AM

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb167/EckerTallness/Chicago%20Construction%201-6-08/IMG_4225.jpg

Tom Servo

Jan 7, 2008, 1:29 AM

i think that, in 2008, we will see some dramatic skyline change.

aaron38

Jan 7, 2008, 3:47 AM

It looks like it's ~80ft already. And with fairly small floor plates, one floor a week should not be a problem.
It should be 500 feet by December.

jjk1103

Jan 16, 2008, 12:24 AM

......I think I asked this question earlier, but I don't remember the answer ? .....is the steel scaffolding (on Wabash) going to remain in place until the end ? ...or will the facades be attached earlier and the scaffolding removed ?

APPRAISER

Jan 18, 2008, 3:33 AM

I can't wait for this building to get at least about 15 floors higher! It definitely get my vote for the unsung-hero award due to its location.
If it was in a more open spot, we would be talking about it a little more and have more photos. I give it about 4 more months before it really starts to make a impact.

McStructures

Jan 20, 2008, 2:36 PM

Poor quality shot on a unphotogenic day in Chicago....

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q166/tmcdonald77/IMG_3191.jpg

Down_Under_the_El

Jan 20, 2008, 5:21 PM

Will this eventually change to a skinnier floorplate?

btw.. nice shot!

ZZ-II

Jan 20, 2008, 7:58 PM

great shot, that shows how far the progress is already :)

mkdr2

Jan 21, 2008, 2:04 PM

Will this eventually change to a skinnier floorplate?

btw.. nice shot!

The building takes wedge shape on 15.

zerokarma

Jan 21, 2008, 4:22 PM

good update

dropdeaded209

Jan 29, 2008, 11:10 PM

some info arrived in my mailbox today about legacy's curtain wall:

Covering nearly 380,000 square feet, this glass and aluminum skin is comprised of more than 9,800 individual curtain wall sections weighing an average of 580 lbs. each.

We proudly report that the curtain wall system passed all tests performed, and that installation is on schedule to begin this spring.

BVictor1

Jan 29, 2008, 11:16 PM

Here's a link to more info on the curtain wall system.

http://www.thelegacyatmillenniumpark.com/ecards/update143/update143.asp

honte

Jan 30, 2008, 12:00 AM

^ Thanks. I am really glad to see that the glass is blue, and not green as rumored.

BVictor1

Jan 30, 2008, 2:41 AM

^ Thanks. I am really glad to see that the glass is blue, and not green as rumored.

Why's that? I'm actually beginning to get a little tired of the blue glass trend, green would have been interesting intermingling with the brushed stainless steel of 55 E. Monroe (or what'll be left of it) on the red of CNA.

01/27/08
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/01/589759.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/01/589766.jpg

aaron38

Jan 30, 2008, 2:55 AM

Here's a link to more info on the curtain wall system.
http://www.thelegacyatmillenniumpark.com/ecards/update143/update143.asp

From the curtainwall link:
For example, during the water penetration test, a waterspray rack and a Pratt & Whitney supercharged airplane engine were used to simulate 2.08 in. of rainfall per hour accompanied by 62mph winds.

I just love frankenstein engineering. If you can't get time in a wind tunnel, just strap an airplane engine to the test rack and call it a day!

BorisMolotov

Jan 30, 2008, 4:24 AM

Bvic, did you get a chance to see what floor they're on?

Knightwing

Jan 30, 2008, 4:32 AM

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2008/01/589766.jpg

^Trump playing hide-and-go-seek. I agree with your overall sentiments about the bluish scheme being just about played out but the success would be ultimately determined by which hue of green. The wrong one would completely undermine the attempts of contrast with CNA and would end up being too Christmassy..

honte

Jan 30, 2008, 5:18 AM

Why's that? I'm actually beginning to get a little tired of the blue glass trend, green would have been interesting intermingling with the brushed stainless steel of 55 E. Monroe (or what'll be left of it) on the red of CNA.

Yeah, I agree we have too much blue now. But that's not enough for me to think green glass is attractive, especially on an all-glass tower. :) Just about any other color would work for me though.

Tom Servo

Jan 30, 2008, 6:11 AM

Yeah, I agree we have too much blue now. But that's not enough for me to think green glass is attractive, especially on an all-glass tower. :) Just about any other color would work for me though.

really? you don't like green glass? the only thing that i think is redeeming about 340 is the high quality green glass. i think green glass looks really sick in certain cases. nonetheless i agree with you honte, green glass probably wouldn't work on this tower.

what ever happend to grey glass? blue is getting so old...

Nowhereman1280

Jan 30, 2008, 6:24 AM

the only thing that i think is redeeming about 340 is the high quality green glass.

Ummm, I'm pretty sure the glass on 340 is a deep blue, nowhere close to green, but no I can't remember if it has a greenish tint or not...

Tom Servo

Jan 30, 2008, 7:17 AM

Ummm, I'm pretty sure the glass on 340 is a deep blue, nowhere close to green, but no I can't remember if it has a greenish tint or not...

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2614/bcbs5nr8.jpg
*i_am_hydrogen*

sorry... i must be color blind

BVictor1

Jan 30, 2008, 1:41 PM

Nowhereman1280

Jan 30, 2008, 3:58 PM

sorry... i must be color blind

No need for the sarcastic response, I clearly said I couldn't remember. I'm still not sure what color it actually is though because from Grant Park, 340 often looks completely blue, but, as the above picture shows, when viewed from Aon its clearly green. So I'm still confused.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/340OnThePark_06_03_07.jpg/450px-340OnThePark_06_03_07.jpg
Wikimedia

^^^ See its blue when viewed from far away/below.

cactus22minus1

Jan 30, 2008, 7:13 PM

Trump looks 'green' from an above angle like that too, but I haven't heard anyone call Trump's glass green. And if any colored glass is significantly reflective at all, it's going to look blue from street level because of the sky. Provided the sky is blue that day.

honte

Jan 30, 2008, 11:23 PM

333 W. Wacker Drive /:shrug:

I'm not really a fan of that building.... I think it does some nice things, but the color has never appealed to me.

My favorite green-glass buildings are the ones that have other strong colors to contrast the green. The first two buildings at Riverside Plaza are probably my favorites. Newer buildings with a more Aquamarine color, such as Parkview and the Sterling, are fine too.

But in the case of an all-glass tower such as this one, I am happy to have a color that is more neutral against the sky and other buildings. Silver would have been pretty amazing IMO.

SlatsGrobnik

Jan 31, 2008, 1:48 AM

SlatsGrobnik

Jan 31, 2008, 1:49 AM

I'm not really a fan of that building....[333 W. Wacker]

Son, them is fight'n words.

i_am_hydrogen

Jan 31, 2008, 2:26 AM

340 OTP can appear both green and blue depending on the lighting. And 333 W. Wacker is one of the most beautiful examples of contextualism that we have in this city.

Now that I've settled that, let's get back on topic...

BVictor1

Jan 31, 2008, 3:41 AM

I'm not really a fan of that building.... I think it does some nice things, but the color has never appealed to me.

My favorite green-glass buildings are the ones that have other strong colors to contrast the green. The first two buildings at Riverside Plaza are probably my favorites. Newer buildings with a more Aquamarine color, such as Parkview and the Sterling, are fine too.
IMO. :koko: :whip:

The first 3 riverside Plaza Buildings = :yuck: While the 4th = :tup:

Bvic, did you get a chance to see what floor they're on?

Maybe 7 or 8. I didn't count.

As for 340 OtP, it totally depends how the light is hitting the tower.
My photos from September
https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/09/563096.jpg

https://community.emporis.com/images/6/2007/09/562092.jpg

340 OTP can appear both green and blue depending on the lighting. And 333 W. Wacker is one of the most beautiful examples of contextualism that we have in this city.

Now that I've settled that, let's get back on topic...

Agreed on all fronts.

No matter what, I think the Legacy will be a beautiful tower once completed.

honte

Jan 31, 2008, 5:03 AM

:koko: :whip:

You were doing such a nice job of being civil in your discourse. ... then I get whipped as usual for having a dissenting opinion.

In any case, it's just personal preference. I think I know enough and think enough about architecture to state that I think this tower looks better in blue. In any case, back to waiting around for photos....

Alliance

Feb 1, 2008, 2:46 PM

Blue is certainly better for its area in the skyline. Green is not really a color for the Loop just yet.

BVictor1

Feb 1, 2008, 4:47 PM

Blue is certainly better for its area in the skyline. Green is not really a color for the Loop just yet.

Well in your opinion of course, what is the Loop lacking specifically that has prevented us from reaching this point?

JV_325i

Feb 8, 2008, 5:32 AM

From MP: barely peeking out above Michigan streetwall.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6200/dsc02810ag8.jpg

photoLith

Feb 14, 2008, 7:49 PM

For an 820 ft tower it doesnt look all that tall. I guess cause everything else around it is so much taller. If that were in most other cities it would probably be the tallest building, but in Chicago it isnt even close. Awesome!

Alliance

Feb 14, 2008, 9:46 PM

Well in your opinion of course, what is the Loop lacking specifically that has prevented us from reaching this point?

I think that the loop has diversity in color, but not really diversity in strong color. I simply think that a lack of new headliner buildings in this area of the loop contribute greatly. MOST of the boom has been centered elsewhere, and obviously the loop has seen development, but its mostly been West (S. Wacker). I still detest (I know many disagree) CNA's redness and I think another massive color right off S. Michigan is slightly unbalancing.

Blue is just a more subtle color than green and in glass is never as intense. I think a green like 340 could have been very nice, but something as saturated as Parkview West would have been unsettling IMO.

Nowhereman1280

Feb 14, 2008, 11:51 PM

ardecila

Feb 14, 2008, 11:57 PM

^^^ 340 is not green!!! It just looks like that from I am hydrogens pictures, just like Trump looks green his pictures. Its just Hydrogen's camera and angle. From any other angle 340 and Trump both look blue, 340 is a deep blue from most angles. :ahhh:

It only looks blue because it is reflecting the sky. When it is reflecting a desaturated object, like the white/grey tower next door, it displays a definite green tint.

honte

Feb 15, 2008, 12:30 AM

Wow, we're going to need an "Is 340 green or blue?" thread. (I vote bluer than blue.)

In any case, the green I am imagining was not like 340, as Alliance is getting at too. If the Legacy comes out with 340's glass it would be a nice looking tower (for variety, I hope it's something else). I think a green like 333 Wacker would have been awful though. That color is so timid.

photoLith

Feb 15, 2008, 2:07 AM

Lets give it a rest and say that it is Greenish Blue, and from some angles it is blue and others it looks more green. so there, and does it really matter? All that matters is that it looks good and it does!

Tom Servo

Feb 15, 2008, 5:11 AM

If the Legacy comes out with 340's glass it would be a nice looking tower

i agree there. beautiful glass like on 340 would be the only thing that could save this tower from being awful.

Ch.G, Ch.G

Feb 15, 2008, 6:15 AM

i agree there. beautiful glass like on 340 would be the only thing that could save this tower from being awful.

That's fucking ludicrous. This tower's a sliver. It's not bold or assuming enough to be awful.