[bcp]

cool.....

we're having a pre-sales reservation party on october 6 for 30th and lawrence (details coming).....brokers that bring a guest can get in (hosted at kentwood....)....if folks want an invite, please register at VF.com!

infomercial over! :-)

[glowrock]

Holy freaking crap, that whole Lincoln Park Master Plan is amazing! We're talking about a good two square blocks of surface lots here... Simply amazing...

Aaron (Glowrock)

[CONative]

Nice. Excited about this one.

I wonder if anyone can scrape up a city skyline with Lincoln Park in it -- from the North on I-25 and from City Park.........???

[comoneymaker]

we are deffently going to need a new ariel shot in spring of 2006 with the glass house, Lincoln park, EPA, DNA, Museum Res, Broadway, four seasons, and one or two of the 14th street Developments. Holy crap thats alot of cranes (10+) !!! :cool: :hilarious

Oh and judgeing by the "parks" it will all be res and retail.

[wong21fr]

Very nice, looks like a hell of a lot of retail on the groundfloors, including a couple of pretty large spaces.

[glowrock]

Well, it seems there IS talk of a Whole Foods going into one of those spaces, so it's all good! :D

But yeah, there's a definite need for both residential AND retail over there, in the most disgusting, surface-lotted area of downtown. This development may not be anything like Times Square, but hell, it's a great thing to see, even in plans!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[InfillJunkie]

Mmmmmm, what an incredible master plan. Look at all that park space too they have integrated into the buildings. And is that a bridge connecting the two sides over Lincoln? I'm spent...

[comoneymaker]

woah i didnt even notice the park was elevated and there was a bridge. Good in some ways bad in others. Good to keep homeless off bad for normal people cause they cant access it.

[Cirrus]

The courtyard space is rather wasted, I'm afraid... But whatever. Still an uber exciting development.

[bunt_q]

The courtyard space is rather wasted, I'm afraid... But whatever. Still an uber exciting development.

Not sure it's entirely wasted... it's parking. And with that amount of retail, they would certainly need (or want, at least) to have some...

edit: not sure i like those small alcoves of street level green space, though.... seems to me that they will be wasted, even scary spaces... guess it depends on the treatment and connection to the surrounding retail

[Top Of The Park]

I can't wait!

[Agent Orange]

Now I really hope they aren't going to put grass/astroturf on those rooftop courtyards. That would be far too Vancouveresque. Just look at the plans for the new Vancouver Convention Centre. I wouldn't wish that upon any city, regardless of annual precipitation.

[joeindt]

Nice photos. I'm co-hosting a party Sept 21st for the Blake 27 Groundbreaking. You guys should come! I'll post the details. So far it's free food, free drinks and latin band. A great way to celebrate a groundbreaking.

It figures, another party. You should change your name to partygirl. :rolleyes: (j/k)

MMMKAY....i think this is the additional phasing that lydia refererred to a while back. i spent some time in there sales center today (VERY nice operation they are running).

Here is some information:
- 31 stories, 12 feet per floor = 372 feet
- the building is 51% reserved already
- groundbreaking will be in November
- completion in january 2008
- developer already has the land for the phases 2- 5, to be done over the next 5 years (we hope)
- Whole Foods is *close* to signing to be the groundfloor anchor on the broadway corner across from phase 1.
- the building will be made of structural steel rather than RC (i am doubting the sales person on this one....)
- the narrow tower in the future phase WILL be shorter than what is shown....


That is freakin' amazing, everything about it... the green space is a little weak. Anytime I see stuff like that I think skaters and bums. Maybe it'll be different with the whole foods in there (doubt it though) :crazy:

[bcp]

oh...btw - that greenspace is reserved ONLY for people that live in the project.

[pablosan]

What a great masterplan.:yes:

[PLANSIT]

yeah, those dangerous skaters...

[bunt_q]

oh...btw - that greenspace is reserved ONLY for people that live in the project.

the street level stuff can't be... that'd be odd.

[BroncoCSU05]

Nice photos. I'm co-hosting a party Sept 21st for the Blake 27 Groundbreaking. You guys should come! I'll post the details. So far it's free food, free drinks and latin band. A great way to celebrate a groundbreaking.

i'm in, said bronco

[wong21fr]

Hmm, maybe the street level green space is fenced off, so the residents can look down from the elevated green space and laugh at the homeless trying to get in....

[Cirrus]

There are two possible scenarios with that courtyard. It will be either A) heavily used, or B) not heavily used. Frankly it would be better if it is not heavily used, as every person sitting in a private courtyard is a person not populating the street who by all accounts could and should be. If it's not heavily used then it's just dressing for the top of the parking garage, which I suppose is OK.

I just don't want it sucking life off the street.

[joeindt]

Skaters aren't dangerous, just a pain if your apt building was a destination, but since I read the map wrong not an issue here.

You're right, it is private, meaning its elevated.

it looks like its set up on top of a parking garage, ala uptown village. Ya, not that big of deal I guess.
FYI: Courtyards like that never get used except for the people who'll let their dogs run around off leash.

[bunt_q]

So here's a question... does elevated, private courtyard space (atop a parking garage) count towards any open space requirements there may be at this site? (are there any?)... is that a possible explanation for the stupid street-level green spaces?

[Navyweaxguy]

You know that pic is cool, but i would bet alot of that is just for massing sake. Lets wait to see the final plans before we start making some hasty judgements.

[DenverInfill]

I think I'd prefer the nasty surface parking lot. :frog:

By the way, hi everyone. I'm back from my 8 days on the big island of Hawai'i.

I've got some pics to share with you.

[joeindt]

^ quit it ken!

And hi everyone. I'm back from nebraska.

[1Post2]

^^^yeah aaron, it is just a massing image. i'm guessing the later phases will resemble the first one in terms of design.

[bcp]

no doubt...these massing things change. though it looks like this would almost all be elevated and private. the one section at street level may just be stairs / egress requirments.....it'll most likely have a locked gate at the top (they are pushing exclusivity, but with half-decent prices)

[wong21fr]

I don't mind the exclusivity, the amount of retail at the bases of these buildings more than makes up for it and will provide plenty of street life.

[soonermeteor]

^ quit it ken!

And hi everyone. I'm back from nebraska.

Nebraska:uhh:

[glowrock]

Nice photos. I'm co-hosting a party Sept 21st for the Blake 27 Groundbreaking. You guys should come! I'll post the details. So far it's free food, free drinks and latin band. A great way to celebrate a groundbreaking.

i'm in, said bronco

Uhm yeah, count me in too! Free food, free drinks, and latin music? Absolutely, 100%, I'm in for this one! :D

Aaron (Glowrock)

[bunt_q]

Okay... so rumor from the sales office at lunch today (unless they lie of course, which is entirely possible) is that they have 99 people paid already, and construction will start this year. Or so they say... That is one *sweet* model they have set up in there. I highly recommend walking by at night.... you can't go in, but it is lit up all pretty...

[Chinagal]

Are you guys stalking the sales ladies? Joking.

[joeindt]

Um, not everyone stalks.. just a few of us

[bunt_q]

I sent a coworker to see the model... but he did bring me back one of the sales ladies cards and told me she was pretty dang cute... so yeah, kind of stalking i guess :-)

[InfillJunkie]

So, I sent an email to sales office asking for a current document showing those units sold or on hold. I got back a PDF.

Out of 186 units - 52 have been sold and 21 are currently on hold. Thats only 39% of all units are under contract or interest is there.

The least expensive unit available is a 790 sq foot 1 bed 1 1/2 bath at $299,700 with an HOA fee of 246. This unit is on the 6th floor.

The most expensive is on the 31st floor. Its a 4301 sq foot unit 3 bed, with Den and 3 1/2 baths. Its selling for $2, 258,000 with an HOA fee of $1254.

[DenverInfill]

That's pretty good... 52 units sold in 5 months, with 21 in the works. Seems like a good pace to me. If they need 50% presales to secure their financing and start construction, they should be ready to go by March.

[joeindt]

Well we'll see lots of new and exciting things in the next month or so.. then we can move them to the "unbuilt denver" section next year. :sly

[bunt_q]

such the pessimist...

okay, so I have to be the one to ask (call me gullible, whatever)... did Hick really email about denverinfill? ken?

[joeindt]

Actually Ken talked to Hick in person at the recent bridge ground breaking... Ken sent him a follow up email with the site address that he told him about.. Hick replied that he spent 45 mins going through the site and was really impressed by it and with denver development. I believe hick said that he was going to show his staff as well seem to recall that anyway. And Hick said 'thanks'.. thats the story.

Of course.. I changed the story a bit in my signature to tease our nerdy friend.

[Navyweaxguy]

Need to make T-shirts that say


DenverInfill.com
Hick was here!


Bluish with white Century Gothic letters:D

[glowrock]

Awesome to hear Hick likes DenverInfill.com. About One Lincoln Park, I think it and The Spire will likely start construction in the next 2-3 months.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[1Post2]

^^ i'd wear one. even to a forum meet with a bunch of other like-dressed city-dorks.

[Denver Bear]

needs somewhere to put the pocket protectors:haha:

[Navyweaxguy]

That's easy... White Polo shirt with Ken's DenverInfill.com Blue letters and a pocket for those who need one. :)

[DenverInfill]

hey people, I'm not that much of a nerd. I'm a planner after all... not an engineer! :frog:

[BroncoCSU05]

^ whacha got against engineers?? :-p

[bunt_q]

hey people, I'm not that much of a nerd. I'm a planner after all... not an engineer! :frog:

Ouch. Very ouch. Don't feel bad Gabe... don't think you're the "type" of engineer that was aimed at.

But hey, I'm a card carrying (or paper carrying at least) planner too, so I am immune to your petty attacks! So there.

[DenverInfill]

he he :sly Yeah, but Brent, you're our favorite plangineer on the forum!

[joeindt]

hey people, I'm not that much of a nerd. I'm a planner after all... not an engineer! :frog:

Ouch. Very ouch. Don't feel bad Gabe... don't think you're the "type" of engineer that was aimed at.

But hey, I'm a card carrying (or paper carrying at least) planner too, so I am immune to your petty attacks! So there.

And whats that supposed to mean?

[DenverInfill]

If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand. :frog:

[rds70]

A new rendering:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/rds70/2005pictures/onelincolnpark122605.gif

[InfillJunkie]

Ok stupid question. No trees????

[Giovoni]

The Mountains have trees, go there if you want to see them... if any rendering of a new building should bring tears to anyone's eyes it's this one..

<sigh>

[InfillJunkie]

There's no f-ing streetscape. I want streetscape damn it

[JonnyBoy]

HO, HO, HO mother fudgers...

Nice christmas gift, SWEEEEEEEEEEET!

[glowrock]

That new rendering is simply beautiful!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[MileHighCJ]

That rendering is awesome! Now they just need to build the damn thing!!!

[Navyweaxguy]

ground breaking ground breaking :D

[Agent Orange]

:drool:

[soonermeteor]

Oh god its beautiful :boogy:

[InfillJunkie]

^ But it won't get built. How's it feel to hump a pipe dream.

Just kidding, I think this one will get built too.

[Navyweaxguy]

Do you need a good smack this morning?

[InfillJunkie]

Yes a good hard slap across the mouth would do wonders for me this morning.

[Denver Bear]

You sure got a pretty mouth boy.

[Navyweaxguy]

Lol... I'm not even supposed to be here today... What smells like shoe polish?

[InfillJunkie]

You sure got a pretty mouth boy.

Goodness, that's what my date said this weekend. LOL

[Navyweaxguy]

TMI Now that deserves a damm time out... lmao

[InfillJunkie]

^ Sorry. :(

[Navyweaxguy]

No worries, slow day. :)

[BroncoCSU05]

nice rendering. soooo seattleish

[kazpmk]

ground breaking ground breaking

Was that a joke, or did ground really break?

[bunt_q]

I think it was a hopeful cheer/chant... that's all.

[Navyweaxguy]

^ bingo... very hopeful

[rds70]

I will jump start this thread with some news:

A building permit application has been filed for the project!!!!

This thing may actually get built!!!

[Giovoni]

sweeeeeeet!!

[glowrock]

I will jump start this thread with some news:

A building permit application has been filed for the project!!!!

This thing may actually get built!!!

Excellent news! Thanks for the update!

Aaron (Glowrock)

[InfillJunkie]

:banana: :thrasher: :apple: :tomato: :cucumber: :leek: :lockd: :awesome:

Woohooooo

[bcp]

so...at least 45 days to start!

[DenverInfill]

Great news!

Therefore......

I'm now taking bids on when you think the "official" groundbreaking for OLP will occur. Not when a fence is put up around the site or when a bulldozer first appears, but when they have the formal groundbreaking ceremony (assuming they have one). If they don't have one, then as a backup we'll go with the date that the first chunk of asphalt is broken.

We'll play by the Price is Right rules: you have to be the closest to the date but you can't go over. The winner gets all his/her drinks paid for at the next forum meet.

I'll start: My guess is Monday, March 27

[bcp]

Tuesday, April 24

[bcp]

i hate to be a party-pooper...but i'm not a big fan of the design of this building - it just seems to be "all over the place"....lots of unnecessary shapes, angles and lines.

(don't get me wrong...thrilled to see the skyline change and have res. development downtown)

[Denverite]

I, for one, LOOOOOOOOOVE this building. I think it's going to be one of Denver's most unique and in a primo spot to admire it from a lot of angles. This and the Four Seasons will be two of Denver's finest.

What I find interesting about it, though, and as bcp noted is how it's all over the place architecturally, I recall D4D's comments in a different thread about how Denver has a say in the design/appearance of the first 90' and then anything goes above that. So, to me, this structure exhibits exactly those guidelines... Denver says 'make the ground level fit the vibe of the Brown Palace' and the rest is up to the designer. (I do not know if that was the case, it just looks like that to me).

In this case I think it works great. I like the ground level appearance.

[bcp]

you're right about it respecting the brown palace at the podium...hadn't noticed that before.

still, i think it's a very "insecure" building that is trying very hard to be lots of different things, so it doesn't end up really being anything.

[wong21fr]

Hmm, I'll be gone for pretty much any of the groundbreaking dates, so the trend continues, I go do some training and a new development is announced or breaks ground.

March 30th.

[MileHighCJ]

Great news!

Monday, April 3rd.

[PLANSIT]

1 dollar...




Oh, I mean Wednesday April 12th.

[rds70]

April 24th.

[JBinCalgary]

that is a snazzy looking tower

[hardcore]

Does anyone have the URL to One Lincoln Park? How about a web site for Osborn Development Corp? I Googled them and came up with nada.
thanks

[bcp]

nice try RDS...but that date is taken bro :-)

[DenverInfill]

Try: http://www.lincolnparkone.com/

[rds70]

nice try RDS...but that date is taken bro :-)

Damn it....ok, April 21st.

[InfillJunkie]

Im gonna say the week of my birthday March 20th!

[glowrock]

I'll say April 5th... ;)

Aaron (Glowrock)

[dktshb]

Hmm looks like a wonderful building and could be a great investment for us out of the market CA folks. :cool:

[DenverInfill]

Here, this should make it easier. I'll periodically edit the list as needed:

D4D - March 27
bcp - April 24
wong - March 30
MileHighCJ - April 3
ptown - April 12
rds - April 21
junkie - March 20
Glowstick - April 5
CONative - April 10
bronco - April 25
higher - April 4

[CONative]

My birthday is March 20th too ....and my other half's birthday is March 20th as well. Since I was a small child, I run into people that share my birthday all the time -- it has always seemed to be a big day for births. Must be those June weddings.

My vote: April 10

[BroncoCSU05]

i'm gonna say april 25

[HigherHigher]

Ok, I guess I'll pipe in...

I'm going to say April 3rd.

[HigherHigher]

If I can't pick the same date... put me down as April 4th!