[Tony]

are those open to the public???

yes

Agenda: http://www.toronto.ca/planning/south_agenda.pdf

Item 8: A0125/07TEY

The Variances requested are as follow:

1) decrease the minimum required NON-RESIDENTIAL GFA from 27,000 sq.m to 25,500 sq.m

2) increase maximum permitted number of dwelling units & guest rooms from 336 to 379

3) decrease the parking space size from a minimum 2.6m x 4.7m to 2.6m x 4.6m

There are NO variances sought for a decrease in height.. although a variance would prolly not be needed, a Revised Site Plan would probably be though. I'll check into the SPA.

[LordMandeep]

i am so confused...

[mello]

Go TO!!! I might be moving to Toronto. I'm stoked, I'm out of this f*cking conservative dump of a country. I'm cummin north baby. I love how Toronto embraces urbanity and density, not like San Diego. Here we complain about a little 12 floor building 1.5 miles from downtown. They say "oh it's going to ruin the small town charm of the neighborhood, and cause a wind tunnel" christ I'm outta here.

[Maldive]

Hey Mello... I'm heading home to T.O. tomorrow after "many" months in San Diego.

Let's get a consortium together, raise $100 billion and buy all of downtown San Diego. Every Toronto developer will hop on our train 'cause San Diego is an urban "lost" opportunity. And T.O. developers are already sniffin' around SD.

It'll take a while to build a dream city... but watch out San Francisco. The weather's better in SD. ;-)

P.S. I've budgeted moving the airport, so we can build 1000 footers.

[mello]

^^^ Fark yeah lets do it! Its on G. I love TO we love it! Get it like the "I love LA song" seriously somebody should do a song called "I love TO"

HA HA Now I can smoke weed in front of cops!

[Tony]

i am so confused...

lol

Talon submitted an application to the Committee of Adjustments (a committee at the city that deals with minor variances and land partitions "severances". This Committee is composed of city councillors and are advised by the planning and other city departments on what decision to make on applications made by homeowners and developers when they want to revise the zoning restrictions or sever their properties). Talon's application to the C of A only asked to drop the required amount of office space and raise the maximum amount of units that were spelled out in the original zoning by-law for the property. Additionally, they're asking to vary the required size of parking spaces in order to save space / increase the amount of parking.

[Maldive]

... damn, mellon is just stoned... shoulda known better.

So much for dreaming when yer strait.

[Tony]

Two interesting reports in the May Council agendas:

939 Lawrence Ave. E., 49 & 75 The Donway West

32 Storeys (99.5m)

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/ny/bgrd/backgroundfile-2993.pdf

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/~trilliumphotography/toronto/939_Lawrence_site.jpg

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/~trilliumphotography/toronto/939_Lawrence_model.jpg


1 Front St. E.
Hummingbird Centre
Preliminary Report: http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-2905.pdf

57 Storeys (205m)

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/~trilliumphotography/toronto/hummingbird.jpg

[WhipperSnapper]

those 32 storey towers look goofy

[mello]

:tomato: I ain't stoned foo! I'm just a little buzzed off some vodka dats all. But yeah those 32 floor towers are goofy as fuck. Come on TO we expect better from you. You are the mega city, lets step it up mang

[LordMandeep]

four seasons will be starting this year it appears...

Breaking News:

Walked into the packed sales centre today and in a conversation to set up an appointment one of the sales staff informed us that "the three most expensive penthouses are already sold".. when I asked her to confirm that indeed somebody had paid $16 million for the most pricey unit she replied, "yes, and I can tell you that the buyers ARE LOCAL and not overseas customers"

wow, looks like a construction announcement could be happening very very soon (a la Ritz Carlton)... amazing news!!

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=267216&page=20

[caltrane74]

Vikky at SSC took these photos... of the FS Sales Centre.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/oversexual/DSC01676.jpg?t=1178109190

Very nice. Very upscale.

Apparently the penthouses have already sold out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/oversexual/DSC01672.jpg?t=1178109148

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/oversexual/DSC01675.jpg?t=1178109224

[JanneClaude]

Here are some renderings of Pure And Clear Spirit Living @ The Distillery District found on architectsAlliance's website:

http://www.architectsalliance.com/images/projects/distillery-district_2.jpg

http://www.architectsalliance.com/images/projects/distillery-district_3.jpg

http://www.architectsalliance.com/images/projects/distillery-district_4.jpg

http://www.architectsalliance.com/images/projects/distillery-district_6.jpg

http://www.architectsalliance.com/images/projects/distillery-district_7.jpg

http://www.architectsalliance.com/images/projects/distillery-district_5.jpg

[caltrane74]

Under Construction

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

COLLEGE PARK TOWER I---------2006-----505 FT / 154 M----52 - COMPLETED
HVE 2 (CITYPLACE)------------2005-----503 FT / 140 M----49 - COMPLETED
WEST ONE (CITYPLACE)---------2006-----484 FT / 148 M----55 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
SP!RE------------------------2006-----476 FT / 145 M----45 - COMPLETED
COLLEGE PARK TOWER II--------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----45 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
THE MET----------------------2006-----431 FT / ??? M----43 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION ( ALMOST COMPLETE)
N----------------------------2006-----415 FT / 126 M----42
N1 (CITYPLACE)---------------200?-----??? FT / 125 M----42
PINNACLE TOWER A-------------2005-----397 FT / ??? M----40 - COMPLETED
18 YONGE---------------------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----39 - COMPLETED
QUANTUM (MINTO)--------------2007-----387 FT / 118 M----37 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
EQUINOX EAST TOWER-----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----37 - COMPLETED
EQUINOX WEST TOWER-----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----37 - COMPLETED
HVE 3 SOUTH (CITYPLACE)------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----36 - COMPLETED
PLATINUM TOWERS I------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----36 - COMPLETED
ULTIMA-----------------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----35 - COMPLETED
INFINITY---------------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----35 - COMPLETED
360@THE CITY CENTRE----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----35
MERIDIAN BUILDING SOUTH------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----31
PINNACLE TOWER B-------------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----30 - COMPLETED
MANSIONS OF HUMBERWOOD 2-----2005-----??? FT / ??? M----29
WINDMERE BY THE LAKE---------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----28
ATLANTIS---------------------2005-----302 FT / ??? M----28
JAZZ-------------------------2005-----256 FT / ??? M----28
HVE 3 NORTH (CITYPLACE)------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----26
HVE 4 (CITYPLACE)------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----26
22---------------------------2006-----243 FT / ??? M----23
ELEMENT----------------------2006-----226 FT / ??? M----25
TIDES@MYSTIC POINTE----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----24
BATTERY PARK PHASE I---------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----23 - COMPLETED
COSMO PHASE I----------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----23 - COMPLETED
COSMO PHASE II---------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----23 - COMPLETED
HUDSON-----------------------2005-----226 FT / ??? M----21 - COMPLETED
THE ROCKERFELLER-------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----20 - COMPLETED

Approved

APPROVED

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

TRUMP INTERNATIONAL HOTEL----2008---1,066 FT / 325 M----70
1 BLOOR EAST-----------------2007-----718 FT / 219 M----60
SIGNATURE TOWER (CITYPLACE)--2007-----714 FT / 218 M----69
RITZ-CARLTON HOTEL-----------2009-----665 FT / 203 M----53 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
RICHMOND ADELAIDE CENTRE-----2007-----595 FT / 181 M----41
QUANTUM 2 MINTO MIDTOWN-----2007-----525 FT / 160 M----52 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
THE UPTOWN RESIDENCES--------2006-----518 FT / 158 M----48 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
FESTIVAL TOWER---------------2006-----514 FT / 157 M----42 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
MURANO SOUTH TOWER-----------2006-----459 FT / 140 M----41 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION
N2---------------------------200?-----??? FT / ??? M----41
18 YORK ST-------------------2006-----449 FT / 137 M----37
PINNACLE CENTRE BUILDING C---2006-----449 FT / 137 M----46
MURANO NORTH TOWER-----------2006-----371 FT / 113 M----34
WATERPARK PLACE III----------200?-----351 FT / 107 M----??
NEO (CITYPLACE)--------------200?-----??? FT / ??? M----16

PROPOSED

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

SAPPHIRE TOWER---------------2008---1,122 FT / 342 M----90 - NOT APPROVED
SHANGRI-LA HOTEL-------------2008-----690 FT / 210 M----65 - APPROVED IN SALES
FOUR SEASONS HOTEL-----------2009-----672 FT / ??? M----55 - APPROVED - IN SALES
SIMCOE TOWER II--------------2009-----??? FT / ??? M----50
BAY ADELAIDE WEST TOWER------2008-----779 FT / ??? M----62 - UNDER CONSTRUCTON ( 218m - revised)
BAY ADELAIDE EAST TOWER------2008-----??? FT / ??? M----53
CITYCENTRE TOWER-------------2008-----619 FT / 189 M----51
20 YORK ST-------------------200?-----549 FT / 167 M----36
MLSE SOUTH TOWER-------------2008-----558 FT / ??? M----53 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION (186m)
ONE CITY HALL PHASE II-------2009-----??? FT / ??? M----50
MLSE NORTH TOWER-------------2008-----529 FT / ??? M----49 - UNDER CONSTRUCTON (174m)
590 JARVIS-------------------2007-----487 FT / 148 M----45
PARKWAY FOREST A1------------2008-----479 FT / 146 M----48
RITZ-CARLTON-----------------2008-----??? FT / ??? M----48 UNDER CONSTRUCTON
33 CHARLES ST EAST-----------2006-----453 FT / 138 M----43
ROM CONDO TOWER--------------2008-----??? FT / ??? M----40 - NOT APPROVED
PARKWAY FOREST A2------------2008-----420 FT / 128 M----42
PARKWAY FOREST B-------------2008-----420 FT / 128 M----42
PARKWAY FOREST C-------------2008-----420 FT / 128 M----42
PARKWAY FOREST A3------------2008-----390 FT / 119 M----39
PARKWAY FOREST D1------------2008-----390 FT / 119 M----39
PARKWAY FOREST D2------------2008-----390 FT / 119 M----39
1 BEDFORD RD SOUTH TOWER-----200?-----363 FT / 111 M----32
TIP TOP PHASE 2--------------200?-----351 FT / 107 M----37

[borgo100]

is'nt there a shorter version of sapphire tower?

[Canuck]

caltrane74 that list is horribly out of date.
Here's a proper up to date list: http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=629

[caltrane74]

nice list. ( Thanks for your hard work)


I scooped out the part that is important to us.. ( And I will convert hieghts to Canadain if I can)

Under Construction
1) RBC Centre [Simcoe Place] - 600 ft. 42 floors
2) Quantum II [Minto Midtown] - 525 ft. 52 floors
3) West ONE [CityPlace] - 476 ft. 49 floors
4) Murano South Tower [The Murano] - 461 ft. - 43 floors
5) College Park Tower II [RoCP] - 458 ft. 46 floors
6) Montage [CityPlace] - 449 ft. 47 floors
7) Telus Tower - 446 ft. (not including spire) 30 floors
8) The MET Phase I [The Met Condos] - 431 ft. 43 floors
9) Verve - 422 ft. 39 floors
10) N1 [CityPlace] - 415 ft. 42 floors

Building Sites Undergoing Demolition/Site Prep/Excavation
1) Bay-Adelaide Centre West Tower [Bay-Adelaide Centre] - 715 ft. 50 floors
2) Ritz Carlton Hotel [Simcoe Place] - 684 ft. 53 floors
3) Maple Leaf Square Tower I [Maple Leaf Square] - 610 ft. 54 floors
4) Maple Leaf Square Tower II [Maple Leaf Square] - 571 ft. 50 floors
5) *Absolute World South [Absolute Condominiums] - 548 ft. 56 floors
6) Festival Tower - 541 ft. 42 floors
7) The Uptown Residences - 518 ft. 48 floors
8) Pinnacle - Northwest Tower [Pinnacle Centre] - 516 ft. 50 floors
9) *Absolute World North [Absolute Condominiums] - 495 ft. 50 floors
10) Casa - 453 ft. 45 floors
11) X Condominiums - 448 ft. 44 floors
12) Pinnacle - Southwest Tower [Pinnacle Centre] - 443 ft. 45 floors
13) Luna Vista [CityPlace] - 413 ft. 38 floors

Sales
1) Trump International - 919 ft. 57 floors
2) Four Seasons Hotel [Four Seasons] - Approx 686 ft. 50 floors
3) Sapphire Tower - 643 ft. 62 floors

Pre-Sales
1) 1 Bloor East - 732 ft. - 76 floors
2) Shangri-La - 704 ft. 65 floors
3) The L Tower [Hummingbird Centre] - 673 ft. 57 floors
4) Burano [The Murano] - 518 ft. 48 floors
5) Clear Spirit Living - Tower I [Clear Spirit Living] - 509 ft. 48 floors
6) Clear Spirit Living - Tower II [Clear Spirit Living] - 433 ft. 40 floors
7) MetroGate Tower I [MetroGate] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 42 floors
8) MetroGate Tower II [MetroGate] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 42 floors

Approved Proposals
1) Signature Tower [CityPlace] - 714 ft. 69 floors
2) Bay-Adelaide Centre East Tower [Bay-Adelaide Centre] - 590 ft. 43 floors

Proposals Not Yet Approved
1) Hullmark Centre - 538 ft. 45 floors
2) 40 Wellesley - 533 ft. 44 floors
3) Two City Hall [One City Hall Condominiums] - 522 ft. 50 floors
4) *Parkside Village - Tower I [Parkside Village] - 505 ft. 50 floors
5) *Parkside Village - Tower II [Parkside Village] - 456 ft. 45 floors
6) *Parkside Village - Tower III [Parkside Village] - 456 ft. 45 floors
7) 50 St. Joseph Street Building C [St. Mike's Parking Lot] - 443 ft. 45 floors
8) 1501 Yonge Street - Tower I - 417 ft. 39 floors
9) *Parkside Village - Tower IV [Parkside Village] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 40 floors
10) *Parkside Village - Tower V [Parkside Village] - HEIGHT NEEDED - 40 floors

Rejected Proposals
1) Aura [RoCP] - 787 ft. 75 floors

Proposed Office Towers
1) Richmond-Adelaide Centre [Richmond-Adelaide Centre] - 595 ft. 41 floors
2) 20 York Street/151 Front Street/7 Station Street - 576 ft. 36 floors
3) 18 York - HEIGHT NEEDED - 26 floors

Visions
1) "Toronto Landmark" by Bazis International - 3 Towers

Sub-Totals
Built - 41
Buildings Under Construction - 10
Building Sites Undergoing Demolition/Site Prep/Excavation - 13
Residential, Hotel, or Mixed Use Towers In Sales - 3
Residential, Hotel, or Mixed Use Towers in Pre-Sales - 8
Approved Residential, Hotel, or Mixed Use Towers - 2
Proposals Not Yet Approved - 10
Rejected Proposals - 1
Proposed Office Towers - 3
Visions - 3

Grand Total: 94

-------------------- We can use this marker for our files for the next 6 months to a year.

[JanneClaude]

Metrogate in Agincourt, Scarborough

The first phase, Solaris, will be 40 stroeys tall.

http://www.tridel.com/metrogate/images/solaris_building_640.jpg

http://www.tridel.com/metrogate/images/park_640.jpg
http://www.tridel.com/metrogate/images/building_640.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2143/metrogate2ui2.jpg

[vegeta_skyline]

They really like circular buildings in Scarborough don't they.

"Metrogate in Agincourt"
Where exactly is this being constructed?

[Canuck]

They really like circular buildings in Scarborough don't they.

"Metrogate in Agincourt"
Where exactly is this being constructed?

Kennedy & 401.

[caltrane74]

Look what V of E posted at Urban Toronto Forum. - The rumoured Manulife Centre Tower takes a new breath.



(3) Manulife Centre - I don't know why but I seemed to take a lot of flack for this from certain members of the Urban Toronto Forum. I don't have any further updates other than what I reported to you last fall when I had lunch in Miami with Ott and Chen. Carlos I am sure knows who the architect is but he isn't saying . As I previosly said I think it's Foster but thats just my educated guess based on the few facts I know. This project, and I honestly don't know why, is really hush hush. Right now all I can tell you is it's a mixed use tower over 1000ft. and it's going south of Queen Street.

I personally do not have the time to ferret out information on projects the way some of the more industrious members of the forums do as I have a substantial business to run here in Dallas. However I am still very well connected in the architectural & development world and when I receive relevent information on Toronto projects I will gladly pass it on.

[vanman]

Hey Mello... I'm heading home to T.O. tomorrow after "many" months in San Diego.

Let's get a consortium together, raise $100 billion and buy all of downtown San Diego. Every Toronto developer will hop on our train 'cause San Diego is an urban "lost" opportunity. And T.O. developers are already sniffin' around SD.

It'll take a while to build a dream city... but watch out San Francisco. The weather's better in SD. ;-)

P.S. I've budgeted moving the airport, so we can build 1000 footers.

Vancouver developers are way ahead of you. They have already built many towers in SD already.

BTW Metrogate looks great

[Maldive]

^^ With due respect, "many towers" do not exist in downtown San Diego regardless of the developers home turf. North York is taller than downtown San Diego.

[vanman]

^ You are quite wrong on that one. I know its completely off topic but here is a list of towers u/c / proposed in SD by Vancity developers (mostly Bosa & Pinnacle).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/pinnacle3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/StrataRenderingz.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/legend.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/M16FirstandIsland1stAvenue.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/bosa1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/vannmann/ash-render.jpg


BAck on topic I'm really interested in Metrogate. Is it located in a part of Scarborough with existing high rises or will these towers be secluded from the rest of the city?

[Maldive]

^^
Vancouver developers are way ahead of you. They have already built many towers in SD already.


So which is it? Built or proposed? I'm siting here in San Diego right now and I don't see "many" towers built by Pinnacle (thankfully).

[koops65]

This news story caught my eye...
A big chunk marble fell off First Canadian Place today.
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20070516/marble_slab_falls_070516/20070516?hub=TorontoHome

[caltrane74]

Other news: apparently Shangri-la Toronto is 80% sold.

that was fast, they just opened the sales office last week. Thats gotta be at least 300 Million dollars of real estate gone in one week.

Can't be serious eh?

[Brandon716]

Glad no one was below.

[Big Daddy]

Has anyone heard any news about the Trump Tower? I can't believe how long this thing has been going on. Is this building ever going to start or are they looking for a way to back out with some dignity still intact?

[caltrane74]

It's moving ahead this fall. the hieght has been reduced to 280 meters.


Financing has been secured and sales have met the threshold for construction to begin.

[Tony]

A little late with this update but here it is anyway:

icky 10 storey slab @ Keele & Wilson
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/ny/bgrd/backgroundfile-3526.pdf
Residential
10 Storeys

------------------------------------------------------------------
695-717 Sheppard Ave. W.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/ny/bgrd/backgroundfile-3473.pdf
Mixed-use
two 8 storey buildings

------------------------------------------------------------------
yet another ugly slab for Scarborough
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/sc/bgrd/backgroundfile-3629.pdf
12 Storeys, 39.2 m

------------------------------------------------------------------
609 Avenue Rd.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-4000.pdf
Residential
16 Storeys

------------------------------------------------------------------
126 Simcoe St. Phase II
Refusal Report http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-3670.pdf
Residential
35 Storey 106.5m
------------------------------------------------------------------
582 Sherbourne St & 28 Linden St.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-3778.pdf
32 Storey, 100.4m condo tower with heritage designated building preserved

------------------------------------------------------------------
79 Dunfield Ave.
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-3737.pdf
22 Storey, 79.1m
Mixed-use, glassy with lots of terrace setbacks

[JanneClaude]

http://six50king.com/

Another development by Freed in the upcoming King West/Portland area:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6821/six50ov1.jpg

Pier 27 along the Waterfront (Yonge Street and Queens Quay)

http://www.thestar.com/images/assets/231844_3.JPG

http://www.pier27.ca/

[brannelford]

BAck on topic I'm really interested in Metrogate. Is it located in a part of Scarborough with existing high rises or will these towers be secluded from the rest of the city?

In answer to this question... "Yes and No".
This section of Scarborough is secluded on the other side of the 401 from Scarborough Town Centre highrises. However, it's beside a 14 storey office tower and a ~12 storey Delta hotel, both of which are just north of the 401 on Kennedy Road.

The proposed site for Metrogate is behind the office tower, so it won't be right on Kennedy Road. Formerly, the site consisted of a handful of single storey warehouses and a facility that included parking and driver training for large transport trucks (18-wheelers etc.). Essentially it was an urban wasteland, and IMO is ripe for urban development and intensification.

Right now, the area looks like "ugh", but it has potential. If the city ever moves ahead to complete the Sheppard Subway to connect with Scarborough Town Centre, then this site will be close to a proposed subway station. Also, with road realignment, it could be very close to a pre-existing GO station on Sheppard, just east of Kennedy. Currently, a railway and a concrete waterway block access to Sheppard, so something would need to be done to fix that. Lastly this site provides quick access to the 401, and if a pedestrian tunnel were to be built under the 401, then residents could have close walking access to Kennedy Commons - a box store type mall - but it includes movie theatres, a grocery store, Chapters bookstore etc.

Done correctly, I think this development might work!
Also it provides urban intensification in an area outside of the core.

[Nunavuter]

Highways act like rivers.

Without bridges, what's on the other side might as well be on the Moon.

If you can't walk a neighbourhood, there is NO neighbourhood. This is why traffic engineers must never be allowed to design cities ever again.

[SFUVancouver]

I think we're at a point when an old quote should be updated:

If you should ever meet a traffic engineer at a party, slap him.

[Nunavuter]

Then we're on the same page.

[caltrane74]

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/WATERfuture.jpg

courtesy of my buddy Maldive.

[Wheelingman04]

^That rendering is friggin amazing!!:yes: :notacrook:

[MasonsInquiries]

^^i agree. simply beautiful.:D

[caltrane74]

The rendering is on it's way to becoming reality in about 3 years.

Only big one not starting any time soon is Signature at Cityplace. All the others are under construction or will be in about 2.5 months to 4 months. (ie. Trump, Shangri-la )

[caltrane74]

Another from Maldive.

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/manu2.jpg

[Jared]

what the hell is that bigass tower with the yellow crown thing?

[vanman]

In answer to this question... "Yes and No".
This section of Scarborough is secluded on the other side of the 401 from Scarborough Town Centre highrises. However, it's beside a 14 storey office tower and a ~12 storey Delta hotel, both of which are just north of the 401 on Kennedy Road.

The proposed site for Metrogate is behind the office tower, so it won't be right on Kennedy Road. Formerly, the site consisted of a handful of single storey warehouses and a facility that included parking and driver training for large transport trucks (18-wheelers etc.). Essentially it was an urban wasteland, and IMO is ripe for urban development and intensification.

Right now, the area looks like "ugh", but it has potential. If the city ever moves ahead to complete the Sheppard Subway to connect with Scarborough Town Centre, then this site will be close to a proposed subway station. Also, with road realignment, it could be very close to a pre-existing GO station on Sheppard, just east of Kennedy. Currently, a railway and a concrete waterway block access to Sheppard, so something would need to be done to fix that. Lastly this site provides quick access to the 401, and if a pedestrian tunnel were to be built under the 401, then residents could have close walking access to Kennedy Commons - a box store type mall - but it includes movie theatres, a grocery store, Chapters bookstore etc.

Done correctly, I think this development might work!
Also it provides urban intensification in an area outside of the core.

Thanks.

[Jackhammer]

what the hell is that bigass tower with the yellow crown thing?

Jared,

The render is labelled Manu2, so I assume this is the rumoured Manulife Tower that V of E from SSC has hinted at.

[caltrane74]

The manulife tower is going to be office and residential so I dont think it will be that wide, maybe from this angle. but I dont think so, or at least I am not sure.

[Dale]

Manulife would be a wonderful counterbalance for the CN Tower.

[Skorji]

Interesting. Where did the "Manulife Tower" image come from? Does anyone have any idea what the tower may actually end up looking like or is it still pretty hush hush?

[caltrane74]

JackhammerTO condensed Maldive's pics

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f182/JackhammerTO/WATERfuture.jpg



The second appears to be her version of the rumoured Manulife tower.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f182/JackhammerTO/manu2.jpg

The Tower is residential and office, so it wouldn't be so widde at least as far as I am concerned. Manulife tower needs to be shrinked down just a wee bit more, to make it more slim. Maldive???

[Maldive]

The Manulife Tower is a total fabrication by me... though I was aiming for something "Foster-ish" to go with the rumoured location and architect.

I think it is fairly accurately proportioned given it's location ever so slightly south of the new RBC Tower u/c. The POV is almost directly at this location so impact would be maximum.

I originally just wanted to play with how the CN Tower's new LED lights might look... and then couldn't resist plunking the "rumoured Foster" in its "rumoured location". ;-)

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/manucu.jpg

[caltrane74]

ok fair enough.

[Maldive]

Since you get a kick out these scribbles, I'm going to do a quickie mega pano based on this one, from Waterpark City/West Harbour City to the 3 towers of Distillery District (Pure/Clear Spirit) including the massing proposed for East Bayfront (a few talls at Jarvis, Sherbourne and Parliament).

Not going to worry about architecture... just approximate height/location from this POV. Pretty much a continuous string of highrises.

[caltrane74]

Cool cool!

[caltrane74]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/227/535989867_177329ad2d_o.jpg

New proposal for a downtown parking lot. 58 stories. translates into 170-180 meters.

[Big Daddy]

There has been a rumour about a "Manulife Tower" for so long its stale news. Has anyone considered the possibility that Toronto was only one of several potential cities it was considering – or that it was never really a serious issue with Manulife, just a “what if” discussion? (leak a rumour when you are discussing lease renewal options etc.) I remember years ago Galen Weston was going to build something unique and special in Toronto. Never happened - yet people talked about it for years.

[caltrane74]

I like this rumour, lets keep it going.

[caltrane74]

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Shots courtesy of WhistlerinMuskoka!

Bay Adelaide Centre. Downtown Toronto.

[puncbuggy]

[QUOTE=Tony;2797975]Two interesting reports in the May Council agendas:

939 Lawrence Ave. E., 49 & 75 The Donway West

32 Storeys (99.5m)

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/ny/bgrd/backgroundfile-2993.pdf

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/~trilliumphotography/toronto/939_Lawrence_site.jpg

http://www.skyscraperpage.com/~trilliumphotography/toronto/939_Lawrence_model.jpg

I grew up there! North America's first planned urban community is getting a makeover. FINALLY

[puncbuggy]

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[caltrane74]

Maldive updated our proposal and u/c rendering.

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/panoguide.jpg

for the non-colour blind

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/megapano.jpg

[OrientExpress]

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New proposal for a downtown parking lot. 58 stories. translates into 170-180 meters.

Wrong, this lots reserved for office or mixed use, 220-230m.

[Maldive]

I just realized my rendering is missing 5 towers and various mid-rises between Cityplace and the Fort York neighbourhood.... essentially the western-most Blocks of the Railway Lands (located just east of Bathurst). The city is developing the northern portion and I think Wittington owns the rest.... amazing density one day.

Despite having different owners/developers... almost everything from the CNE to Skydome (between the rail corridor and Lakeshore) is being built from scratch and could be viewed as one enormous (almost seamless) urban renaissance.

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/panoguide.jpg

[caltrane74]

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6218/bayadelaidecranecl7.jpg

Bay Adelaide Crane.

[caltrane74]

I just realized my rendering is missing 5 towers and various mid-rises between Cityplace and the Fort York neighbourhood.... essentially the western-most Blocks of the Railway Lands (located just east of Bathurst). The city is developing the northern portion and I think Wittington owns the rest.... amazing density one day.

Despite having different owners/developers... almost everything from the CNE to Skydome (between the rail corridor and Lakeshore) is being built from scratch and could be viewed as one enormous (almost seamless) urban renaissance.

http://www.upside-down.ca/maldive/panoguide.jpg


Are you going to update your rendering?

[puncbuggy]

can someone do one of those google maps with red squares to show all the developments?

[caltrane74]

that would take a lot of time punch. Someone would have to have absolutely no life to do that.

any takers??

[Maldive]

Hard to believe that L Tower (Libeskind), ShangriLa, Burano and others have sold the majority of suites... before opening to the public (or even building a sales centre for that matter)... hopefully this will fast track them straight to construction.

[caltrane74]

The economy is strong, or people really want to live here!

I guess that's the reason.



Below are pictures of Pure Spirt under construction in Toronto right now!

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/spmarshall/Toronto/PS1.jpg



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/spmarshall/Toronto/PS5.jpg

Pictures courtesy of SeaTrans Urbantoronto.

[caltrane74]

Stern Tower Under Construction in Toronto

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[colemonkee]

Wow, Pure Spirit really shot up quick. When I was there in September of last year, it was a HUGE hole in the ground.

[caltrane74]

Baby Minto

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[Tony]

Anyone heard anything about Tip Top Phase II?

Original 2004 Zoning App: http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2004/agendas/committees/ts/ts040504/it019.pdf
37 Storeys, 107.3 m

Revised to 24 Storeys and two 9 storey towers... went to OMB.

[caltrane74]

Ritz-Carlton Hotel (208 meters)

Crane #1


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The second one:

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Pictures courtesy of Look@around at ssc.

[WhipperSnapper]

Anyone heard anything about Tip Top Phase II?


its approved status (don't know) or it's development status (man .. you then are really slipping)

http://www.taylorwoodrowcanada.com/index.cfm?method=Homes_CommunityDetail&divID=2&MetroAreaID=28&CommunityID=221

[3madjack]

Anyone know anything about Wittington Properties looking at putting up a 39 and a 32-storey condo along with a 14-storey mixed-use tower and street townhouses? There is a sign on the site referencing application number 06 199698 STE 22 but I can't seem to find anything more on the application for rezoning.

I really want to see what they are looking at for the area. Any info, most appreciated.

[WhipperSnapper]

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2007/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-2367.pdf

[3madjack]

:previous: Awesome! Thanks.

[Tony]

It appears that 66 Temperance St. is up for sale.

[Big Daddy]

It appears that 66 Temperance St. is up for sale.


Someone should let Manulife know.

[borgo100]

Someone should let Manulife know.

is'nt that where Sapphire Tower was going to go???.... BTW Manulife could'nt build a 1000' footer there because of nathan phillips square

[lobbby]

why is Trump second in the line of buildings in the diagram section...should'nt Scotia be there, i mean does the spire really count?

[Big Daddy]

why is Trump second in the line of buildings in the diagram section...should'nt Scotia be there, i mean does the spire really count?

I agree, in fact Trump just barely holds third place. Aura at College Park and Commerce Court are awfully close.

[Big Daddy]

In Fact the Canada Trust Tower is equal to Trump except for the little antennae on top. Its funny, they don’t acknowledge the CN tower as a building because they say its just a communication tower, yet when the measure height they are insistent on including the antennae on top. It makes no sense to me.

[Tony]

The Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat (http://www.ctbuh.org/default.aspx) created the definition for measuring building heights. Antenna don't count but spires do.

"HEIGHT: The height of a building is measured from the sidewalk level of the main entrance to the structural top of the building. This includes spires, but does not include television antennas, radio antennas, or flag poles. Height is listed in both meters and feet and is rounded to the nearest integer. This is the official criterion used by the Council in determining ranking."

This was set years ago.

[caltrane74]

New RBC Rendering - 185 Meters

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z236/Ziggy5857/Screenshot-RBC.jpg

[Tony]

^ a rendering that says... meh..

[caltrane74]

^ I hear ya, RBC sucks. Thank god Ritz will cover it from the western view.

construction update RBC 185 meters
pictures courtesy of look@round at SSC

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[vegeta_skyline]

meh is right,
its just another freakin box.

[Big Daddy]

New RBC Rendering - 185 Meters



Now which one of those bland, indistiguished, uninspired buildings are we rerferring to? Is it just me or is there a complete lack of architectural flair in this city?

[lobbby]

It's not just you

But it's not very surprising that corporate Canada is not very daring with its investments

[caltrane74]

Now which one of those bland, indistiguished, uninspired buildings are we rerferring to? Is it just me or is there a complete lack of architectural flair in this city?

we have lots of flair what are you talking about Big Daddy? The picture above is the financial district, of one of the world's hardest working cities.

We are getting a shitload of new glitz hotels in the Entertianment District and Yorkville.

This is just one building amoung many that will be constructed over the next few years here.

[colemonkee]

Toronto has plenty going for it architecturally. Yes, many of the taller buildings are reserved, but they're well executed. And there are a lot of buildings on the horizon that will add some aesthetic variety to the city's tall architecture.

[Mister F]

Yep, nothing but bland, indistinguished, uninspired boxes...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/brighterhell/Toronto/ritz-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/brighterhell/Toronto/TheLTower.jpg

http://www.urbantoronto.ca/attachment.php?attachmentid=6&d=1178160572

http://chartattack.com/ut/Absolute_2.jpg

http://www.ghettoshots.net/david/Photos/107/WebFullSize/Aura.JPG

Besides, most skyscrapers around the world are boxes, nothing wrong or architecturally inferior with new ones.

[caltrane74]

nice!!

And that's not all that's coming.

ie. Four Seasons & Shangri la.

[lobbby]

Unfortunately Absolute is a Mississauga project, I wish Toronto was capable of that!

[caltrane74]

new condo in Toronto

Met Condo : Toronto at Yonge & College.

courtesy of condotech flickr.com / ragexp - urbantoronto.ca

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[caltrane74]

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Courtesy of Mike in To ... www.urbantoronto.ca

[Xeelee]

cool buildings.

[lobbby]

Everytime I pass by the MET I love it more and more...the way it compliments the curve on College...so amazing

[borgo100]

When is Absolute going to start? is'nt AURA cancelled?

[Canuck]

Absolute has started.
Aura is in the appeals process, and will probably be built in some modified form.