[M II A II R II K]

LEGEND:

RESIDENTIAL
HOTEL
RESIDENTIAL/HOTEL
COMMERCIAL/OFFICE
CONDO/THEATRE

*Click underlined projects for more info



RECENTLY COMPLETED

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

1 KING WEST (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101423)------------------2005-----578 FT / 176 M----51
PANTAGES TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100255)---------------2003-----458 FT / 154 M----46
HVE 1 (CITYPLACE) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101420)------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----40
EMPIRE TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=162622)-----------------2005-----427 FT / 130 M----28
WATERCLUB SOUTH TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100291)--------2004-----387 FT / 118 M----37
WATERCLUB EAST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100290)---------2003-----387 FT / 118 M----37
18 YORKVILLE (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=146660)-----------------2005-----351 FT / ??? M----36
CHRYSLER EAST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100250)----------2002-----374 FT / 114 M----28
CHRYSLER WEST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100251)----------2002-----374 FT / 114 M----28
ELLIPSE EAST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101433)-----------2004-----361 FT / 110 M----34
ELLIPSE WEST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101434)-----------2004-----361 FT / 110 M----34
APEX 2 (CITYPLACE) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100219)-----------2003-----356 FT / 108 M----36
MARITIME LIFE BUILDING (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100289)-------2003-----347 FT / 106 M----20
OPTIMA (CITYPLACE) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100228)-----------2003-----338 FT / 103 M----34
RADIANCE@MINTOGARDENS (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101420)--------2004-----??? FT / ??? M----34
SKYMARK 2 AT AVONDALE (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=140622)--------2004-----??? FT / ??? M----33
8 PARK ROAD (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100230)------------------2002-----333 FT / 102 M----32
BAY CLUB (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100218)---------------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----32
21 HILLCREST (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101425)-----------------2003-----318 FT / 97 M----31
10 BELLAIR (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100223)-------------------2003-----315 FT / 96 M----26
MATRIX 1 (CITYPLACE) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100224)---------2002-----310 FT / 95 M----32
RADIO CITY II (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101440)----------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----30
GRAND TRIOMPHE AT ... (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=136615)--------2004-----??? FT / ??? M----30
TRIOMPHE AT NORTHTOWN ... (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100286)----2003-----??? FT / ??? M----30
WATERCLUB WEST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100292)---------2005-----302 FT / 92 M----27
WALDORF WEST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100252)-----------2002-----285 FT / 87 M----20
WALDORF EAST TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100253)-----------2002-----285 FT / 87 M----20
MATRIX 2 (CITYPLACE) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100225)---------2002-----274 FT / 83 M----28
APEX 1 (CITYPLACE) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100221)-----------2003-----273 FT / 83 M----28
THE RIVIERA I (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100278)----------------2003-----268 FT / 82 M----24
THE RIVIERA II (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100279)---------------2003-----268 FT / 82 M----24
OPUS (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=140430)-------------------------2004-----217 FT / 66 M----22
CARRINGTON ON THE PARK (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100301)-------2003-----217 FT / 66 M----20
THE MORGAN (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100229)-------------------2002-----206 FT / 63 M----16
WINDSOR II (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100288)-------------------2002-----196 FT / 60 M----19
AQUA (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100226)-------------------------2003-----185 FT / 56 M----17
SOHO METROPOLITAN HO..... (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100243)----2003-----177 FT / 54 M----16
THE ICON 2 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100306)-------------------2003-----174 FT / 53 M----18
UNIVERSITY PLAZA (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=138674)-------------2004-----173 FT / 53 M----17
THE ICON 1 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=100227)-------------------2002-----128 FT / 39 M----13



CONSTRUCTION

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

COLLEGE PARK TOWER I (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101448)---------2006-----505 FT / 154 M----52
HVE 2 (CITYPLACE)------------2005-----503 FT / 140 M----49
WEST ONE (CITYPLACE)---------2006-----484 FT / 148 M----55
SP!RE------------------------2006-----476 FT / 145 M----45
COLLEGE PARK TOWER II--------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----45
THE MET----------------------2006-----431 FT / ??? M----43
N----------------------------2006-----415 FT / 126 M----42
N1 (CITYPLACE) (http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/n1)---------------200?-----??? FT / 125 M----42
PINNACLE TOWER A-------------2005-----397 FT / ??? M----40
18 YONGE---------------------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----39
QUANTUM (MINTO) (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102076)--------------2007-----387 FT / 118 M----37
EQUINOX EAST TOWER-----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----37
EQUINOX WEST TOWER-----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----37
HVE 3 SOUTH (CITYPLACE)------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----36
PLATINUM TOWERS I------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----36
ULTIMA-----------------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----35
INFINITY---------------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----35
360@THE CITY CENTRE----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----35
MERIDIAN BUILDING SOUTH------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----31
PINNACLE TOWER B-------------2006-----??? FT / ??? M----30
MANSIONS OF HUMBERWOOD 2-----2005-----??? FT / ??? M----29
WINDMERE BY THE LAKE---------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----28
ATLANTIS---------------------2005-----302 FT / ??? M----28
JAZZ-------------------------2005-----256 FT / ??? M----28
HVE 3 NORTH (CITYPLACE)------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----26
HVE 4 (CITYPLACE)------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----26
22---------------------------2006-----243 FT / ??? M----23
ELEMENT----------------------2006-----226 FT / ??? M----25
TIDES@MYSTIC POINTE----------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----24
BATTERY PARK PHASE I---------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----23
COSMO PHASE I----------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----23
COSMO PHASE II---------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----23
HUDSON-----------------------2005-----226 FT / ??? M----21
THE ROCKERFELLER-------------2005-----??? FT / ??? M----20




APPROVED

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

TRUMP INTERNATIONAL HOTEL (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101437)----2008---1,066 FT / 325 M----70
1 BLOOR EAST (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=147938)-----------------2007-----718 FT / 219 M----60
SIGNATURE TOWER (CITYPLACE)--2007-----714 FT / 218 M----69
RITZ-CARLTON HOTEL-----------2009-----665 FT / 203 M----53
RICHMOND ADELAIDE CENTRE (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=101418)-----2007-----595 FT / 181 M----41
QUANTUM 2 MINTO MIDTOWN (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=102075)-----2007-----525 FT / 160 M----52
THE UPTOWN RESIDENCES (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=171073)--------2006-----518 FT / 158 M----48
FESTIVAL TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=184256)---------------2006-----514 FT / 157 M----42
MURANO SOUTH TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=190659)-----------2006-----459 FT / 140 M----41
N2---------------------------200?-----??? FT / ??? M----41
18 YORK ST (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=171303)-------------------2006-----449 FT / 137 M----37
PINNACLE CENTRE BUILDING C---2006-----449 FT / 137 M----46
MURANO NORTH TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=190660)-----------2006-----371 FT / 113 M----34
WATERPARK PLACE III (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=171304)----------200?-----351 FT / 107 M----??
NEO (CITYPLACE)--------------200?-----??? FT / ??? M----16


PROPOSED

NAME-------------------------YEAR-----HEIGHT------------FLOORS

SAPPHIRE TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=171040)---------------2008---1,122 FT / 342 M----90
SHANGRI-LA HOTEL-------------2008-----690 FT / 210 M----65
FOUR SEASONS HOTEL-----------2009-----672 FT / ??? M----55
SIMCOE TOWER II--------------2009-----??? FT / ??? M----50
BAY ADELAIDE WEST TOWER------2008-----779 FT / ??? M----62
BAY ADELAIDE EAST TOWER------2008-----??? FT / ??? M----53
CITYCENTRE TOWER-------------2008-----619 FT / 189 M----51
20 YORK ST (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=233702)-------------------200?-----549 FT / 167 M----36
MLSE SOUTH TOWER-------------2008-----558 FT / ??? M----53
ONE CITY HALL PHASE II-------2009-----??? FT / ??? M----50
MLSE NORTH TOWER-------------2008-----529 FT / ??? M----49
590 JARVIS (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=231515)-------------------2007-----487 FT / 148 M----45
PARKWAY FOREST A1 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234060)------------2008-----479 FT / 146 M----48
RITZ-CARLTON-----------------2008-----??? FT / ??? M----48
33 CHARLES ST EAST (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=189783)-----------2006-----453 FT / 138 M----43
ROM CONDO TOWER--------------2008-----??? FT / ??? M----40
PARKWAY FOREST A2 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234059)------------2008-----420 FT / 128 M----42
PARKWAY FOREST B (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234062)-------------2008-----420 FT / 128 M----42
PARKWAY FOREST C (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234063)-------------2008-----420 FT / 128 M----42
PARKWAY FOREST A3 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234061)------------2008-----390 FT / 119 M----39
PARKWAY FOREST D1 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234064)------------2008-----390 FT / 119 M----39
PARKWAY FOREST D2 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=234065)------------2008-----390 FT / 119 M----39
1 BEDFORD RD SOUTH TOWER (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=231524)-----200?-----363 FT / 111 M----32
TIP TOP PHASE 2 (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=206761)--------------200?-----351 FT / 107 M----37

[FlyersFan118]

Lookin good so far! can't wait to see some renderings and other things soon!

[buildup]

FF118, there are a lot of renderings for most of these towers in the regional forum under Ontario. You might have to look around but they are there. There was a lot of conversation on Trump and Sapphire towers back last fall and winter.

[M. Brown]

The Trump Tower is only a proposal? I thought it was under construction.

[bayrider]

the Trump Tower in Chicago is under construction, the one in Toronto that shares the same name is a proposal

[shappy]

Trump is approved and in sales. There's a forumer with inside info that posts regularly over at SSC and according to that person, ground-breaking is to happen around December 05/January 06.

[M II A II R II K]

/\ That would be great! Hopefully we'll see the Sapphire materialise shortly afterward.

[M. Brown]

I thought Both were underconstruction.

[Tony]

no, no. Neither are under construction. Trump is still in sales. According to Trump himself, sales are going very well and we should expect to start seeing digging and construction "soon".

Sapphire is being run by a guy whom many Toronto forumers have classified as little more than a hack. So who knows when that will be built if ever.

[Xeelee]

nice nice nice...

[TOBoy]

You will be able to add The Met at 415 ft. and 43 floors to the list of under construction buildings as excavation began this week.

[M II A II R II K]

There doesn't appear to be a diagram for that one, guess one will have to be drawn :cool:

[TOBoy]

ROCP at 505 ft. doesn't have a diagram, ROCP II at 45 floors doesn't either and the same goes for many of the proposed buildings.

[TOBoy]

West One at 484 ft. and 49 floors is assembling the crane now. Looks like this one is a go.

Taken by thx1038 at UT:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/governor_arnold/DSC03612.jpg

The Tower on the left is West One, the tower on the right is N1 which should begin construction soon as well given it is 100% sold.
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/WestOneN1.jpg

Also a rendering of the Met which began excavation last week:
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/547/2507met.jpg

[M II A II R II K]

That looks most impressive, at 49 stories the skyline would start to look all the more wider.

[Tony]

TO Boy, are there any complete condos / highrises that you would like to see drawn? I prefer to work from real photos of completed buildings over renderings (cuz as we all know, Rendering and real built don't always match up eh?)

[M II A II R II K]

I couldn't find "The Met" diagram, and that has started construction.

[TOBoy]

Well besides Tony, there are really no other artists that draw for the Toronto diagram section anymore so the Met which is a more recent project isn't even listed along with its shorter tower Encore.

Tony: Here is a recent shot take by Candian National of Harbour View Estates and the surrounding cityplace buildings.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/1hunkwinch/images/SpadinaCityplace.JPG

I take it you might want some shots of the base as well, but I can only suggest using emporis:
http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=363415
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/547/2507ie2.jpg

Also now that 1 King West is nearling completion it may be an option to you

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/547/25071kww.jpg
http://www.globalphotos.org/toronto/20050326/RIMG0380.jpg

Other than that, Toronto hasn't really completed anythig else substantial.

[M II A II R II K]

This is certainly boomtime for highrises. Last time it was the 70s but already this century there's been more going up than in any other decade it seems.

[Tony]

ok, Met & Encore have now been added.

I suppose IKW could use a little update now that Blue has changed to Green glass.

[Lucky 24]

According to emporis, here's a comparison of the construction boom (buildings with 12+ stories) between some of the major cities across North America:

Toronto:
1623 Completed
184 Proposed
101 Approved
54 Under Construction

New York City:
5456 Completed
45 Proposed
21 Approved
91 Under Construction

Chicago:
1045 Completed
83 Proposed
36 Approved
27 Under Construction

Miami:
190 Completed
30 Proposed
64 Approved
51 Under Construction

Vancouver:
519 Completed
16 Proposed
13 Approved
46 Under Construction

As you can see, while Toronto has the 2nd highest number of highrises under construction on the continent, it has a plethora of projects in proposed and approved stage....far ahead of any other city. Hopefully the transition to u/c status will be applicable to the majority of the approved/proposed projects and then Toronto will truely see a construction boom like it has never seen before.

[Tony]

^ yeah, truly amazing.

TOBoy.. you know what? Not to be too harsh but pretty well all the Cityplace diagrams don't look like the real thing. The complete set needs to be completely redrawn. That'll take a while:

completed

Apex 2 108 m 36 storeys
Optima 103 m 34 storeys
Matrix 1 95 m 32 storeys
Matrix 2 83 m 28 storeys
Apex 1 83 m 28 storeys
HVE 1 40 storeys

under construction

HVE 2 49 storeys
HVE 3 South 36 storeys
HVE 3 North 26 storeys

approved

Signature Tower 62 storeys
West One 49 storeys
N1 41 storeys
N2 41 storeys
Neo 16 storeys

[M II A II R II K]

/\ And that list has been front paged!

[TOBoy]

To be honest I was the one that drew Apex I and II that are still in the primary however that was back when they were originally proposed and were based on the now grossly innacurate renderings. I hoped it wouldn't last this long and I agree none of them are that great

I still have ROCP in their which was horrible too.
http://skyscraperpage.com/graphics/dotclear.gif

A little better
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/ROCP2-vi.jpg

Tony: As a side note Emporis is wrong about N2. The Tower is called N and it was sold in 2 phases N1 and N2. I beleive N1 was the first 21(?) floors and the remainder is N2. There is no 41 floor tower called N1 and another 41 floor tower called N2.

[TOBoy]

Sapphire Tower [342 metres] 90 floors
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/SapphireTower-1122ft.jpg

Trump International [325 metres] 70 floors [SALES 60%]]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/TrumpToronto_DayNorth_75x10.jpg http://www.gamblegroup.com/img/DJTmodel_96dpi.jpg

Bay-Adelaide Centre West [243 metres] 62 floors
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/547/17b-a_elevations.jpg

Bay-Adelaide Centre East [UNKNOWN HEIGHT] 53 floors
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/547/17b-a_elevations2.jpg

Shangri-la Hotel [229 metres] 64 floors
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/shangri-lato-full4.jpg

1 Bloor East [219 metres] 60 floors
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/1BloorEast3-718ft.jpg

Signature Tower [218 metres] 69 floors+
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/SignatureTower3-623ft.bmp

Ritz Carlton [209 metres] 53 floors [SALES 70%]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/RitzCarlton-53floors.jpg

Wellington Square [UNKNOWN HEIGHT] 48 floors
http://www.thestar.com/images/thestar/img/050927_office_towers_200.jpg

Four Seasons Hotel & Residences [205 metres] 55 floors
http://www.toronto.ca/planning/images/4s_dusk_lg.jpg

Citycentre Tower [189 metres] 50 floors
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/0921bird.jpg

1 King West [176 metres] 51 floors [COMPLETED - 2005]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/1KingWest2-578ft.jpg

MLSE South Tower [166 metres] 53 floors [SALES]
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/17mapleleaf.jpg

Quantum 2 North Tower [160 metres] 52 floors [PRE-CONSTRUCTION - SALES]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/ThePointe-525ft.jpg

The Uptown Residences [158 metres] 48 floors [SALES]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/TheUptown-518ft.bmp

Festival Tower [157 metres] 42 floors
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/FestivalTower-514ft.bmp

College Park North and South Towers [154 metres] 51 floors [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/CollegeParkTowerSouth.bmp

MLSE North Tower [154 metres] 49 floors [SALES 100%]
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/17mapleleaf.jpg

Harbour View Estates II [153 metres] [COMPLETED - 2005]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/2HarbourViewEstatesII-491ft.jpg

West ONE [148 metres] 49 floors [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/WestOneN1.jpg

Spire [145 metres] 45 floors [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/28toronto-spire.jpg

Montage [144 metres] 47 floors [UNDER CONSTRUCTION]
http://www.urbandb.com/canada/ontario/toronto/montage.jpg

[FlyersFan118]

I'm jealous of you, Toronto. Let it be known.

[Tony]

Well I've started working on Apex 2, hopefully I'll get the whole set done someday.

[M II A II R II K]

Yea we need to add more buildings to the diagram, even if its just the list at first.

[TOBoy]

Over a UT it was reported that a crane has gone up at both West One and N at Cityplace. Both are on their way up.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/WestOneN1.jpg

[M II A II R II K]

Wonderful news, hopefully Sapphire will be on its way up soon also.

[Tony]

It's also been reported that the some residents have started moving into 1KW, I guess we can consider it officially built now.

[M II A II R II K]

Well at least it could pass for being an older building, with its more concrete look.

[Tony]

^ no... it'll just pass as being non-Vancouverish.

[Tony]

Four Seasons Digs In


By SHIRLEY WON

Sunday, July 24, 2005 Updated at 9:52 PM EDT

From Monday's Globe and Mail


The world's largest luxury hotel chain plans to protect its turf in its head office city.

Four Seasons Hotels Inc. will take the wraps off a posh, $325-million hotel project in Toronto's tony Yorkville district on Monday that will go head to head against new rivals as the battle heats up for well-heeled customers.

The chain will run the 265-room hotel slated for opening in 2009. It will be owned by Saudi Arabia's Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, ranked by Forbes as the world's fifth richest man.

Prince al-Waleed holds a 22-per-cent stake in the Four Seasons Hotels chain and also recently purchased the existing 380-room Four Seasons Hotel in the same area, for which he has major renovation plans, from its previous U.S.-based owners Maritz Wolff & Co.

“We have many spectacular hotels around the world, but this [second one] will be our flagship,” enthused Isadore Sharp, founder and chief executive officer of Toronto-based Four Seasons. “You want to maintain your [top] position.”

The new Four Seasons hotel is one of at least four upscale projects, including condominiums, that will be sprouting up over the next few years. Both the 53-storey Ritz-Carlton Hotel & Residences and the 72-storey Trump International Hotel & Tower aim to open in 2009. Both are located either near or in the financial district. And there is a smaller Hazelton Hotel and Private Residences set to open in 2007 in Yorkville.

Hospitality consultants suggest it could take a while for the market to digest the new luxury beds, but added that these new hotels could also help pull up lagging room rates in an industry that is still suffering from deep discounting after the SARS scare in 2003.

“When you have upper-end hotels coming in, they push rates upward in the whole city,” said Monique Rosszell, associate vice-president with HVS International Canada.

Her firm's survey of 11 major downtown Toronto hotels indicates that the occupancy rate rebounded to 71 per cent in 2004, but the average room rate of $157 was still off from the $169 rate in 2002.

Mr. Sharp's strategy is to make sure that both Four Seasons hotels will be top of mind among upscale consumers. That's why it chose the same trendy Yorkville location, with its high-end retail shops, restaurants and nightlife for its next-generation five-star hotel at the corner of Bay and Yorkville streets, only a few blocks away from its current one.

It was Prince al-Waleed's purchase of the existing Four Seasons hotel — through his company Kingdom Hotels International — that paved the way for a new one. The chain had been restricted from running another hotel with the same brand name because of a clause in the former management contract, Mr. Sharp said.

“I think it would have been seven or eight years before we'd have that right.”

But Mr. Sharp is not concerned about the new Four Seasons hotel taking away business from the old one, saying that the chain already operates two hotels in many cities such as London, Chicago, Los Angeles, Singapore, Tokyo and Cairo.

Charles Henry, president of New York-based Hotel Capital Advisers Inc. and an overseer of the prince's hotels in North America, said that having two Four Seasons in a city is an advantage because “they tend to really dominate the city at the high end.”

Mr. Henry is unruffled by the potential competitors. “Let's see if they all get built,” he said. “It's hard to say what will happen when you are talking about such a long time frame.”

Unlike the existing hotel, which Four Seasons renovated after buying it in 1978 from another hotel chain, the new one will be built from scratch, starting next year, to the company's current standards. It will have upscale retail shops, an interior courtyard that opens to the sky and amenities like a world-class spa with treatment rooms and four-piece bathrooms.

The new 55-storey hotel, which will become Yorkville's tallest building, is also a long way from Mr. Sharp's beginnings when he opened the Four Seasons motor hotel on Toronto's Jarvis Street in 1961, an area he describes as a “hookers' paradise” at the time.

The Four Seasons project, which will file applications for rezoning this week, includes plans for 125 luxury condo units on the upper floors during the first phase. There will also be a second-phase condo tower to be built later, which will be connected to the hotel.

Alan Menkes, president of Menkes Developments Ltd. and co-developer of the new Four Seasons project, acknowledges that there has been a flood of new condo units in the local market, but said the project is banking on the “cachet” of the hotel brand to attract upper-crust buyers. High-end condos are now selling for $700 to $1,000 per square foot and “we think they would be at the top end of that range,” Mr. Menkes said.

David Larone, director of PKF Consulting in Toronto, said that it is very expensive to build high-end hotels today, and it is the condominium sales that help defray the costs. “When these projects hit the streets, you'd be looking at a room rate in the range of $400 [a night],” Mr. Larone predicted.

Michael Smith, an analyst at National Bank Financial Inc., said he is not surprised that Four Seasons is unveiling a new hotel project for Toronto given that the Ritz-Carlton chain — which is owned by Marriott International Inc. — is its closest major competitor.

“They will be less likely to lose any potential customers to Ritz-Carlton with this new property,” Mr. Smith said.

[Tony]

from: http://www.yorkvilleresidences.com

MENKES TO DEVELOP A NEW FOUR SEASONS HOTEL AND PRIVATE RESIDENCES IN TORONTO'S YORKVILLE

Four Seasons, the Standard Bearer of Quality in the City to Further Define Yorkville as Epicentre of Affluence and Style

TORONTO, Canada - July 25, 2005 - Bay-Yorkville Developments Ltd., a joint venture between Menkes Developments and Lifetime Homes, both of Toronto and Halcyon Ventures of Boston, announced today that it has recently signed an agreement in principle with Kingdom Hotels to pursue the development of a new 265-room luxury hotel. Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts has agreed to operate the hotel, which is one component of a mixed-use development to include Four Seasons branded and serviced condominiums and high-end retail. Owners of the Four Seasons residences will have access to all hotel services and amenities, including unparalleled dining, a pool, spa and health club facilities, and banqueting and conference facilities. The total value of the project is $325 million and is expected to create about 1,600 construction jobs in the city.

Located in Toronto's exclusive Yorkville district, at the northeast corner of Bay Street and Yorkville Avenue, the new mixed-use development is just a few blocks from the current Four Seasons Hotel Toronto. The project will be co-developed by Menkes Developments and Lifetime Homes.

"Four Seasons has a long track record of managing exceptional mixed-use hotel-condominium developments around the world," said Murray Menkes of Menkes Developments. "Given the landmark location and prestigious nature of this site, we feel this represents an unparalleled opportunity to build a new Four Seasons in Toronto, and to establish a new benchmark for luxury condominium living in the city. In recent years this type of mixed-use development has become the cornerstone of some of the world's most desirable urban neighbourhoods, including Four Seasons Residences in San Francisco, Miami, Hong Kong, and Moscow, and we believe the time is ideal to bring this world class standard to Toronto."

"Yorkville is quickly becoming one of North America's most vibrant, exclusive residential and hotel locations," said Kyle Rae, Toronto City Councillor, Toronto Centre-Rosedale. "Recently Condé Nast Traveler magazine described the opening of the first Four Seasons Hotel Toronto in 1978 as the 'catalyst for a new Yorkville.' The new Four Seasons hotel and residences will have a similar effect, anchoring the next generation of Yorkville that will extend beyond Bay to Yonge Street."

"Toronto now appeals to an ever-growing group of travelers and residential buyers who want the very best." said Isadore Sharp, Founder, Chairman and CEO, Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts. "Looking ahead, there is a unique opportunity to serve those needs with a hotel and residential experience which will be second to none. We are delighted to be working with Bay-Yorkville Developments and Kingdom Hotels on this exciting new project."

Planning approval applications are currently underway for the project. A sales presentation centre for the condominium residences is scheduled to open in early 2006. Construction is expected to begin by the end of 2006, with project completion slated for the beginning of 2009. Further details on the project can be found at www.yorkvilleresidences.com.

Four Seasons continues to manage its award-winning Toronto hotel, at Avenue Road and Yorkville Avenue. Home to Truffles, the city's only AAA-rated Five-Diamond restaurant and Avenue, one of Toronto's top bar and dining venues, the Hotel will continue to be a draw for sophisticated visitors to the city as well as local patrons.

http://www.yorkvilleresidences.com/grafx/map.jpg

[M II A II R II K]

That Four Seasons will be pretty close to the other one.

[TOBoy]

*Sapphire Tower (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,122 90 Proposed Toronto
*Trump International Hotel (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,066 70 Approved Toronto
*1 Bloor East (2007) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 718 60 Approved Toronto
*Signature Tower (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 714 69 Approved Toronto
*Simcoe Tower II (2009) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 50 Proposed Toronto
*Four Seasons Hotel & Residen. (2009) . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 55 Proposed Toronto
*Bay Adelaide Centre (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 45 Proposed Toronto
*Ritz-Carlton Hotel & Tower (2009) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 53 Approved Toronto
*CityCentre Tower (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 619 51 Proposed Toronto
*Richmond Adelaide Centre (2007) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 595 41 Approved Toronto
*151 Front Street West (2007) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 549 36 Proposed Toronto
*MLSE South Tower (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 544 52 Proposed Toronto
*The Pointe Minto Midtown (2007) . . . . . . . . . . . . 525 52 Approved Toronto
*The Uptown Residences (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . 518 48 Approved Toronto
*Festival Tower (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 514 42 Approved Toronto
*One City Hall Phase II (2009) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 50 Proposed Toronto
*College Park Tower I (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 505 52 Construction Toronto
*MLSE North Tower (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 505 48 Proposed Toronto
*Harbour View Estates Phase 2 (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . 503 49 Construction Toronto
*590 Jarvis (2007) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 487 45 Proposed Toronto
*West ONE (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 484 49 Construction Toronto
*Parkway Forest I (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 479 48 Proposed Toronto
*Spire (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 476 45 Construction Toronto
*Murano Tower I (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 459 41 Approved Toronto
*College Park Tower II (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 45 Construction Toronto
*33 Charles St. East (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 453 43 Proposed Toronto
*18 York St. (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 449 37 Approved Toronto
*Pinnacle Centre Building C (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . 449 46 Approved Toronto
*ROM Condo Tower (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ??? 40 Proposed Toronto
*Parkway Forest II (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 420 42 Proposed Toronto
*Parkway Forest IV (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 420 42 Proposed Toronto
*Parkway Forest V (2008) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 420 42 Proposed Toronto
*The Met (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 415 43 Construction Toronto
*N (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 410 42 Construction Toronto

[M II A II R II K]

Your information has been front paged!

[TOBoy]

A rendering of the base of the Four Seasons:

http://www.synerous.com/images/four_seasons.jpg

From Andy6. Cranes up at both West One and N1:

http://i.pbase.com/v3/55/83755/2/46728965.DSC_0018.jpg

[Evilon Doomm]

I love that Four Seasons render.

And I'd just like to say congratulations Toronto! They deserve a better skyline, hopefully this'll help them get there. And I can't believe Canada is getting two thousand footers at the same time, ecspecially since we don't have any others. I just hope they get building them pronto.

[Tony]

Apex 1
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3063/17apex1_lg.jpg

Apex 2
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/3063/17apex2_lg.jpg

Apex 2 is drawn at a slight 15 Degree angle and Apex 1 at 30 Degree based upon floor plans.

The numbers for the top floor height and actual building heights as according to the database and Emporis make the mechanical portion of Apex 2 look huge! Is this right?!

heh, I already downloaded Andy's photo to help with those buildings.

[TOBoy]

They look fantastic although maybe Apex II is too wide?

Heres a pic:

http://www.globalphotos.org/toronto/20050123/DSCN6742.jpg

http://www.emporis.com/en/il/im/?id=369318

I agree the mechanical may be too high, but it seems very hard to get a picture that really puts the mechanical protion to scale with the whole building.

[Tony]

I get the feeling the data on Emporis is incorrect. I'm gonna guestimate it.

[TOBoy]

I was about to write that in my last post as I heard a forumer quote the height differently before, but can't remember it.

[Sacamano]

"The numbers for the top floor height and actual building heights as according to the database and Emporis make the mechanical portion of Apex 2 look huge! Is this right?!"

Yes, its huge. (especially from the the north which is not setback)

[Tony]

So what do you think of the diagram then? Does it "look" right?

[colemonkee]

From Andy6. Cranes up at both West One and N1:

http://i.pbase.com/v3/55/83755/2/46728965.DSC_0018.jpg

It would be cool if they put green roofs on the low-rise portion of those CityPlace towers and more landscaping/trees along the sidewalk. It would keep that area cooler during the summer, give people in those buildings their own private green space, and make the street experience better. Not to mention improving this view...

[try 2B funny]

A rendering of the base of the Four Seasons:

http://www.synerous.com/images/four_seasons.jpg

From Andy6. Cranes up at both West One and N1:

http://i.pbase.com/v3/55/83755/2/46728965.DSC_0018.jpg

This is almost perfect if they use more trees.

[M II A II R II K]

Now that's a good idea :)

[TOBoy]

They were planting more trees along some of the more complete buildings. There is going to be a huge park and hopefully lots of landscaping done, although I suspect not on the roof's of the low rise portion.

[Tony]

What's this about a rumoured 65 storey Shangri-La to be announced for University and Adelaide? - 700' too.

Apparently the proposal has already been submitted to the city, but the company has yet to make an annoucement.

[Maldive]

Wow!

[TOBoy]

According to TplannerII:

"Ed: You got it. Fills the parking lot at on the Northwest corner of Adelaide/University. 65 stories - not sure of the exact height."

That means for hotels:

1. Trump International 1,066 ft. 70 floors
2. Shangri-la Hotel ??? ft. 65 floors
3. Four Seasons Hotel ??? ft. 55 floors
4. Ritz Carlton Hotel ??? ft. 53 floors

Crazy:eek:

[FlyersFan118]

frickin A - Toronto's lookin really really good right now. I envy you bastards - your boom puts our boom to shame.

[M II A II R II K]

Yes. There have been more towers coming up and on the drawing boards more in this decade than any other put together, and this decade isnt over yet.

Certainly to become one of the worlds top skyscraper citys.

[TOBoy]

Tplanner is saying over at UT that the Ritz is 203 metres. I already had sent an email to Ritz Carlton concerning the height and hope to hear from them soon.

[M II A II R II K]

Seems to be a hotel boom on the horizon..

[Tony]

Yeah, the last one was in the 70s.. lookit what that brought us! (or better yet... don't look!)

[M II A II R II K]

Yea a bunch of boring old concrete for the most part, but it seems here they're more creative with their designs. Especially with the big name developers coming to town.

But do they really expect there'll be a need for that many more rooms, or just with a specific clientel...

[Tony]

Well given that all this potential building is for a 2008-09 market, who knows? I think their analyst know something the average Joe doesn't. Or they're making speculations of banner tourist years are ahead.

I'd hate to say it, but perhaps mike has something useful to add given he works directly in the tourism industry.

[M II A II R II K]

Ontario Government Boosts Film Festival Centre

Centre Will Provide A World-Class Home For Toronto International Film Festival

TORONTO, Aug. 2 /CNW/ - The TIFF will have a permanent home in Toronto's entertainment district thanks to a $25 million investment by the Ontario government, Minister of Culture Madeleine Meilleur said today, as she announced the Canadian films to be screened at this year's festival.

"The Toronto International Film Festival is the only major film festival in the world without a home of its own," said Meilleur. "Festival Centre will be a focal point for Ontario's $2 billion film production industry and the Ontario government is proud to be a partner of the centre."

The Festival Centre will be built in the entertainment district, in
partnership with the King John Group. It will house five cinemas, galleries, an education and conference centre, a reference library and archive, retail space, a restaurant and a year-round ticket centre.

Once operational, Festival Centre will have a projected economic impact of $200 million a year. It is expected to quadruple audiences from the half a million people that currently attend the festival, to two million visitors a year. It will be a hub of activity, open to the public seven days a week, 52 weeks a year.

"We're absolutely delighted that the government of Ontario is investing in the future of the city and the province," said Piers Handling, Director & CEO of the Toronto International Film Festival Group. "Their contribution is a clear indication that arts and culture are major priorities, and it will leverage the reputation of Toronto as a world-class urban centre for the arts, and as an international epicentre for cinema."

"Festival Centre will provide a world-class home for the Toronto
International Film Festival," said Meilleur. "Together with other cultural projects under construction in Toronto, Festival Centre will make this city a must-see destination for arts and entertainment."

[TOBoy]

Some updates for the Toronto Diagrams section:

1. N1 is now under construction
2. West one is under construction (49 floors 484 ft. vs. 55 listed)
3. Wellesley Hospital Redevelopment is now called *Verve*
4. Empire on Bayview is now completed
5. Infinity is 35 floors and under construction (vs. 33 current)
6. Minto Midtown tower II is called Quantum and is under construction
7. 18 Yorkville is completed
8. One St. Thomas is under construction
9. Skyline Cosmopolitain is completed
10. Waterclub west is completed
11. Pinnacle Centre Building D (Should be Bulding B) is under construction
12. Minto midtown Tower I (525 ft. 52 floors) is called *The Pointe*
13. 85 Bloor is completed
13. Royal Ontario Museum expansion is under construction
14. University plaza is completed last year

[duper]

That looks most impressive, at 49 stories the skyline would start to look all the more wide.


Like so?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/Gingerbread_Man/P7300033.jpg

[Tony]

Some updates for the Toronto Diagrams section:

1. N1 is now under construction
2. West one is under construction (49 floors 484 ft. vs. 55 listed)
3. Wellesley Hospital Redevelopment is now called *Verve*
4. Empire on Bayview is now completed
5. Infinity is 35 floors and under construction (vs. 33 current)
6. Minto Midtown tower II is called Quantum and is under construction
7. 18 Yorkville is completed
8. One St. Thomas is under construction
9. Skyline Cosmopolitain is completed
10. Waterclub west is completed
11. Pinnacle Centre Building D (Should be Bulding B) is under construction
12. Minto midtown Tower I (525 ft. 52 floors) is called *The Pointe*
13. 85 Bloor is completed
13. Royal Ontario Museum expansion is under construction
14. University plaza is completed last year

K, I'll make changes to the dbase soon.

[M II A II R II K]

And I shall make those changes in this thread soon.

[M II A II R II K]

Like so?

Exactly! Especially with Signature Tower thrown in, and thats only the beginning!

[TOBoy]

Here are a few notes for your amazing list MIIAIIRIIK:

- The most recent phase of Cityplace is Called N. It was sold in 2 phases with N1 being the first 28 or so floors and the remaining floors up to 42 being called N2. There is only one building not two like emporis has listed.

- Rits is apparantly 203 metres or 665 ft.

- 151 front street and 20 york street are the same building

- Buildings under construction over 20 floors:

*Pinnacle Tower A (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 397 40 Construction
*Quantum Minto Midtown (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 387 39 Construction
*Waterparkcity Tower I (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 377 36 Construction
*One St. Thomas St. (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 348 29 Construction
*Atlantis (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 302 28 Construction
*Jazz (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 256 28 Construction
*22 (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 243 23 Construction
*Element (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 226 25 Construction
*Hudson (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 226 21 Construction
*18 Yonge (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 39 Construction
*Equinox East Tower (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 37 Construction
*Equinox West Tower (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 37 Construction
*Harbour View Estates III South (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 36 Construction
*Ultima (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 36 Construction
*Platinum Towers I (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 36 Construction
*Infinity (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 35 Construction
*360 @ the City Centre (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 35 Construction
*Meridian Building South (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 31 Construction
*Pinnacle Tower B (2006) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 30 Construction
*Mansions of Humberwood 2 (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 29 Construction
*Windmere by the lake (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 28 Construction
*Harbour View Estates III North (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 26 Construction
*Tides @ Mystic Pointe (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 24 Construction
*Battery Park Phase I (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 23 Construction
*Cosmo Phase I (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 23 Construction
*Cosmo Phase II (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 23 Construction
*The Rockerfeller (2005) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . --- 20 Construction

Hope that helps :)

EDIT Whoops confused it with 18 Yonge. :)

[TOBoy]

College Park Tower I Courtesy of Ed007 at Ut:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/August2005.jpg

[M II A II R II K]

- 151 front street and 20 york street are the same building

lol, I was thinking that, with them having the exact same info and practically being on the same block.

And the first list says 18 Yorkville is complete, but the 2nd one says construction....

[OrientExpress]

Maybe Rogers could add some neon spikes to the retractable roof of the Rogers center. 4 or 5 big ones that light up would be killer.

[Canuck]

Great list, I have my own version going at UrbanToronto:
http://p083.ezboard.com/ftorontoskyscraperforumfrm4.showMessageRange?topicID=4299.topic&start=1&stop=20
The one I have going is structured differently in that I only list buildings greater than 400 feet (or 40 floors and up when the height is unknown) and I don't exclude what's been built beyond the recent past.

Anyway I have a few points about your list:
- All the new phases of CityPlace starting with N confuse me, but I suspect you might have too many on your list. I thought there was only one lowrise and one 40-ish story tower from that phase
- 590 Jarvis was rejected by the city. I took it off my list unless they resubmit or appeal
- I think Context abandoned plans for Tip Top II due to too much community opposition
- If you wanted to extent out to the rest of the GTA there are a few 400 footers and one 500 footer proposed out in Mississauga


Anyway, hope we can help each other in our respective lists. Good luck on yours.



EDIT: Also depending how low you wanna go, this website: http://www.urbandb.com/index.html
is fantastic at keeping an up to date list on all current projects. It's frequently updated and contains many listings not on this thread.

[M II A II R II K]

Thanx! I shall make the additions and necessary subtractions from the list. I also stumbled across urbandb and was planning to add a few from there too.

[TOBoy]

Crane is up at Quantum. List is looking good.

[OrientExpress]

Cranes are up pretty much everywhere

[Halovet]

Buffalo News

Toronto condo boom attracts Trump

Three-story penthouse will cost $15 million

Sunday, August 7, 2005

A billboard and sales office is located on the site of Trump's Toronto tower.
http://www.buffalonews.com/graphics/2005/08/07/0807condo_color.jpg
A scale model of Trump's tower is on display downtown.
http://www.buffalonews.com/graphics/2005/08/07/actualsize/0807model.jpg

TORONTO - Donald Trump, building his first residential condominium in Toronto, is offering 24-hour access to chauffeured Mercedes-Benz S-Class sedans and a chef for parties as incentives to attract buyers.
The New York-style amenities may help the 70-story Trump International Hotel & Tower stand out, said Barry Landsberg, marketing director for the project.

"That's very unusual for Toronto," said Marisha Robinsky, a real-estate agent for Sutton-Granite Hill Realty in the city. Robinsky said developers usually offer kitchen appliances, parking spaces or access to compact cars as incentives. "The standard perks are becoming more common."

Trump, 59, is taking advantage of a surge in demand for city apartments. About 50,000 to 60,000 people will move downtown this year, Toronto developer Harry Stinson said.

Stinson made headlines in the Toronto Star and the National Post with plans to build the 88-story Sapphire Tower hotel and condominium a few blocks away from Trump's building.

At least six Toronto properties are selling units at up to $1,000 (Canadian) or $824 (U.S.) a square foot, or about $2.2 million (Canadian) for a two-bedroom apartment, according to SimplyCondos.com real-estate agent Laurie Hanes. A year ago nothing sold for more than $500 (Canadian) a square foot, he said. The three-story penthouse in Trump's building, which will begin construction next year, is $15 million (Canadian).

"We're rapidly becoming Manhattan," said Hanes, who described Trump's incentives as "smoke and mirrors."

"I've got clients in upstate New York who always dreamt of retiring in Manhattan for the shows, the restaurants. Now they can in Toronto."

The Four Seasons Hotels is among the companies planning hotel-condo complexes in the Yorkville section of Toronto. The area is known for upscale stores such as Tiffany's and restaurants including Bistro 990. Movie stars Catherine Zeta-Jones and Renee Zellweger have visited the neighborhood while in town filming.

Real-estate agents lined up overnight in Yorkville last month to buy apartments for clients in a planned 96-unit condominium. The development, whose penthouse is priced at $6 million (Canadian), sold out in four days, said Pat Baker, president of Baker Real Estate Corp., which is handling sales at the development.

Toronto condo construction will reach a five-year high of 15,000 units this year, said Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. senior analyst Jason Mercer. The vacancy rate for rental apartments has risen to 4.3 percent from less than 1 percent in the mid-1990s as more apartment dwellers look to buy, said Mercer.

More people have been able to buy condos after the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp., a federal agency that insures mortgages, removed rules last year that required them to put down at least 5 percent. He also cited mortgage rates, which have fallen to 4.5 percent from 6.75 percent five years ago, according to Canadian mortgage broker Invis.

"We always get apprehensive when there's so much construction," Remax agent Bette Ursini said. Cheaper financing "makes it so easy for the first-time buyer," said Ursini, who focuses on selling condos that cost as much as $500,000 (Canadian).

Trump's plans for Toronto were delayed by four years as he switched financial backers and designs. The site in Toronto's financial district will round out Trump's collection of buildings, bolstered by his construction of a 92-story hotel-condominium tower in Chicago that's slated to open in 2008.

The 374 units in Toronto's Trump International Hotel & Tower will include hotel rooms owners can rent to the company, as will a planned complex by Host Marriott Corp.'s Ritz Carlton chain. Those and the Four Seasons' building are slated to open in 2009, giving Toronto its first five-star hotels.

"We deal with people all the time that come to Toronto and meet with us and then go to New York for two or three days," Trump's Landsberg said. "Their preference is to stay in New York because they can stay at the Trump or the Ritz."

Landsberg declined to say how many units have been sold, so real-estate agents will have to wait until September, when the company has planned an announcement, to find out whether Trump's incentives are working.

"For his target market - international travelers who have homes in New York, London, and other cities - those types of amenities will certainly be an attraction because they don't want to have to think about transportation or cooking," said Lauretta Stewart, 45, a real-estate agent with Royal Le Page Real Estate Services in Toronto. She primarily sells condos in the $700,000 to $4 million range.

"If you're an affluent buyer who already lives in Toronto, you probably have your own chauffeur-driven car and your own cook."

Copyright 1999 - 2005 - The Buffalo News

[M II A II R II K]

Next month he announced thew construction date for this condo, cant wait to see it go uPoll: Westerners considering separation up.

[Halovet]

Yeah TO is building like crazy!:eek: You'd think they'd let Buffalo have one tower.:hilarious

[TOBoy]

www.gthba.com/uploadedFil...andout.pdf

Report from july from the greater Toronto Home builders association. Some sales numbers:

Sapphire - 26%
Trump - 62% (doesn't include hotel units I believe, but not sure)
West One - 100%
N - 94%
1 King - 93%
Spire - 76%
Waterparkcity - 96%
Harbour View 3 South - 90%
Harbour View 3 North - 95%
Pinnacle tower I - 58%
Infinnity - 59%
Malibu - 83%
Element - 84%
Hudson - 93%

[M II A II R II K]

Thats more than I would have imagined. I wonder if enough sales for Sapphire can make it a reality.

[Lucky 24]

London on Esplanade has been approved and construction will begin in the fall. However the height has been reduced to 32 and 15 storeys for the two towers.

[MJPhilly]

Spire, The Condominium - 60 Adelaide St East (at Church) - 8/23/05

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/skyscrapercity/tor/spire/050823/01.jpg

[MJPhilly]

Pinnacle Centre towers under construction, from the CN Tower, 8/23/05

http://www.skyscrapersunset.com/skyscrapercity/tor/pinnacle/050823/01.jpg

[Lucky 24]

Thanks for the updates MJPhilly. Spire is coming along quite quickly, i'm glad to see this.

[TOBoy]

Official from the Globe and Mail: Ritz Carlton is 213 metres tall!!

Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto

Tale of the tape 70 storeys, 324.29 metres tall

The gimmick With the addition of the ersatz Chrysler Building spire, Trump's tower will be the "tallest residential building in Canada"--a whole three metres higher than Harry Stinson's proposed Sapphire Tower around the corner (see below)

The bucks The 265 hotel rooms and suites start at $700,000. The 109 apartments range from $1.7 million to $15 million, the latter being the sticker price of a three-level penthouse

The bling In the 18,000-square-foot spa, owners and guests will have tired muscles kneaded back to life; two Mercedes S-Class limos wait on-call. The architectural drawings include no ballrooms: These attract conventioneers, wedding parties and other riff-raff

Sapphire Tower

Tale of the tape 94 storeys, 322 metres tall

The gimmick The tallest residential building in Canada, at least it was until it was Trumped The bucks Of the 1,135 suites, the entry-level is priced between $200,000 and $300,000; mid-levels will go for between $500,000 and $1.5 million; the eight penthouses will sell for $7 million each

The bling Spa, pool and greenhouse; a restaurant overlooking City Hall; high-end convenience market; helicopter pad for quick shuttles to Pearson

The Ritz-Carlton Toronto, The Residences at the Ritz-Carlton

Tale of the tape 53 storeys, 213 metres tall

The gimmick From the 26th floor upward, the south wall slopes forward, giving the building a Leaning-Tower-of-Pisa aesthetic

The bucks While the 267 hotel rooms and suites are not for sale, the 135 apartments are: Prices climb from $700,000 all the way up to $11 million, the latter for the top-floor penthouse

The bling Toronto's first official five-star hotel; the base of the building is home to ballrooms and an expansive 23,000-square-foot spa, all surrounded by glass "to create a sense of interaction between the street and the lobby." Most floors restrict the number of apartments to four

[ProudlyCanadian]

I am so jealous of the T Dot!!!

All these 200m+ towers poping up one after another is just simply amazing.

[Maldive]

From UT


http://bricks.labattracks.net/kiwanis/toronto/CasaCondominium.jpg

CASA. 45s near on Charles near Yonge.

[M II A II R II K]

Turning into a sea of highrises around there.

[Tony]

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1126216214681&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_Home&DPL=IvsNDS%2f7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes

ROM makes room for $3M condos

Plans to demolish planetarium 46-storey project called ROM South

VANESSA LU
CITY HALL BUREAU CHIEF

The Royal Ontario Museum wants to demolish the defunct McLaughlin Planetarium and replace it with a 46-storey tower that will house multi-million-dollar condos.

An employee of Graywood Developments Ltd., which has partnered with the ROM to develop the property, told the Star the tower would have four condominium units per floor, each about 3,000 square feet.

The estimated asking price would be around $3 million, with the penthouse possibly costing as much as $50 million. Forty floors would be condos.

The proposal will likely be opposed by at least two residents' groups, who say it is too big.

But William Thorsell, director and CEO of the ROM, said it means the museum can pay for the next phase of its Renaissance ROM project, in which the museum is being renovated and expanded to give the public access to more of its collections.

"We're getting substantial revenue out of this," he said yesterday.

Earlier yesterday the ROM applied to have the property rezoned to permit the development. The area is now zoned institutional and the ROM has requested it be changed to institutional/residential.

According to the ROM's website, the first five floors of the building would provide offices, storage and a link to the museum's main building.

Located at 90 Queen's Park and called ROM South, the plan also calls for a public plaza and improved subway access on the site that now houses the planetarium, long used as a storage site by the museum. It will include a pedestrian overpass connecting Queen's Park and Philosopher's Walk.

"Hopefully we'll get a yes for this and it will be great," Thorsell said.

But Councillor Olivia Chow, who represents the area, said the tower faces major obstacles.

"It's about the same height as the Toronto-Dominion Centre. It is much higher than anything around it," Chow said yesterday.

Residents who viewed the proposal at a meeting this week "were quite taken aback by the size," said Chow (Ward 20, Trinity-Spadina).

Meanwhile, Councillor Kyle Rae, who represents the ward to the east, called the project "an interesting proposition."

"The ROM has shown they're taking leadership on urban design with their new expansion on the north," Rae said. "They've got a site to the south that's a perfect location for a high-end condo very similar to what the Museum of Modern Art has done in New York City, where there's a condo right beside it."

But ratepayers groups aren't so sure.

Sue Dexter of the Harbord Village Residents' Association said there is "a lot of opposition in the community."

"This is selling off assets to afford things we can't afford to do," Dexter said. Instead, the ROM should wait until it has the money, she said.

David Powell, president of the Huron-Sussex Residents' Organization, said it doesn't fit into the neighbourhood.

"It's just over the top, it's too big, it's so tall."

with files from paul moloney and Dana Brown

[Tony]

""It's about the same height as the Toronto-Dominion Centre. It is much higher than anything around it," Chow said yesterday."

Is she on crack or something? How does a 46 storey CONDOMINIUM where 5 stories are office even remotely equal the height of a 223m, 56 storey office tower? Try ~ 60% the height of TD Centre. It can at the most be equivalent to the faux-Mies Ernst & Young Tower.

Someone needs to stick with the social issues and lay off the architecture.

[Maldive]

The tower is a hair under 650 feet and TD is 731 feet. Not that much of an exaggeration at all, particularly given how it will tower in context (60% would around 440 feet).

I like it.

[TOBoy]

Another article from the Globe and Mail:

ROM condo would tower over U of T

By JAMES ADAMS

Friday, September 9, 2005 Page A1

The Royal Ontario Museum has applied to the city's planning department for approval to erect a 44-storey, 197-metre-high condominium and office tower on the site of the defunct McLaughlin Planetarium at the museum's southern border.

The skyscraper -- which, if built, will be slightly more than one-third the height of the CN Tower -- is expected to generate considerable discussion and debate between now and its expected completion date in mid-2008. In part, this is because it's to be situated within the footprint of the University of Toronto in an area that so far has been predominantly institutional in nature, rather than residential.

The sheer presence and height of the proposed tower are "substantially in excess of what existing regulations allow," a city planner said yesterday.

"It's a significant application . . . and we will be examining it carefully with respect to existing policies for that district."

The layered-glass tower, a co-development with Toronto-based Graywood Developments Ltd., that will feature 39 floors of condominiums atop a five-storey, 3,150-square-metre podium of facilities for the ROM and other institutions, is expected to cost more than $1,000 a square foot. This in a city where $500 a square foot is considered luxurious.

The entire structure will likely contain no more than 90 units, the smallest being about 1,900 square feet, and the largest approximately 8,000 square feet.

"Certainly, it's going to be one of the most expensive buildings . . . that's ever been seen in Canada," said Brian Brisbin of Toronto's Brisbin Brook Beynon, principal architects for the project.

For William Thorsell, director and CEO of the ROM, the tower is "the last great gift to Toronto from" the $230-million Renaissance ROM project he initiated in 2001, and a "fitting bookend and balance" to the Daniel-Libeskind-designed crystalline structure currently being erected on the ROM's northern perimeter along Bloor Street W.

The metal-and-glass crystal renovation is scheduled to open to the public July 1 next year.

Mr. Thorsell was decidedly bullish yesterday about the prospects for the tower, which the ROM requires for both its administrative functions and the financing of programs and operations in its expanded quarters. With 27,000 square metres of new and renovated exhibition space coming on stream, the museum is hoping to increase its annual average attendance to 1.6 million from the current 900,000.

Besides, Toronto "needs a few expensive buildings," he said. "We've been building at $200 a square foot for years . . . Look at Nathan Phillips Square and vicinity: it's so degraded now you'd think you're in some mid-level Soviet city.''

The overall project, called ROM South, also involves a radically improved, highly accessible museum subway stop for the Toronto Transit Commission as well as landscaping and a reflecting pool along Queen's Park and an east-west extension of the north-south axis of bucolic Philosopher's Walk, to align roughly with Charles Street.

However, despite what Mr. Thorsell called "its obvious excellence" -- Mr. Brisbin likened the ROM tower to the campanile, or bell tower, in Venice's famous Plaza San Marco and Cesar Pelli's well-regarded residential tower on the site of New York's Museum of Modern Art -- it's clear some sort of fight with planners, city councillors, U of T officials or neighbouring residents is expected.

Graywood Developments recently hired Toronto lawyer Stephen Diamond to help shepherd the ROM tower through city hall and the appeals that likely will end up at the Ontario Municipal Board.

But even if it scores approval, will there be any buyers? Brad Martin, a prominent realtor in the Toronto condominium market, has his doubts. Yesterday he agreed the high-end route is the way to go for the McLaughlin site, but with the ROM residences likely to cost $2-million or more, the Graywood-ROM vision is perhaps too high-end and unrealistic in the city's competitive, condo-rich market.

[TOBoy]

http://www.rom.on.ca/about/graphics/south_fullview.jpg

[TOBoy]

Planning report for Shangri-la Thnaks to Geekyboy at UT:

Height : 686 ft. 209.1 metres
Floors: 63

http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/legdocs/2005/agendas/committees/te/te050919/it038.pdf

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v229/Gingerbread_Man/srl-3.jpg

So thats the 683 ft. 63 floors Shangri-la & the 646 ft. 46 floor Rom South Tower
:laugh:

[TOBoy]

Reduction in height at 590 Jarviss, but breaths new life into the project for now:

Old Height: 462 ft. (141 metres)
New Height 423 ft. (129 metres)

Reduces it by 4 floors from 45 to 41
http://www.city.toronto.on.ca/legdocs/2005/agendas/committees/te/te050919/it009.pdf

[cityguy]

The amount of towers going up in Toronto is insaine.

[Maldive]

Yet another Cityplace tower announced (see it at cityplace.ca). "Montage" @ 49s. Sort of a tall mate for Neo, that uses some brick for a change.

[westcoastperspective]

Yeah TO is building like crazy!:eek: You'd think they'd let Buffalo have one tower.:hilarious

exactly!

They'd sure have the highrise condo market to themselves in Buffalo! As much as many of the Toronto forumers hate Tridel's architecture, I'd gladly take one of their projects in B-lo!

[canada_habs2004]

are these Trump and Saphire towers going to be considered 'supertalls' because alot of people don't consider FCP as a supertall, and therfore it will be nice to see a couple obvious supertalls in TO (other than CN)

[Halovet]

Yeah TO is building like crazy!:eek: You'd think they'd let Buffalo have one tower.:hilarious

exactly!

They'd sure have the highrise condo market to themselves in Buffalo! As much as many of the Toronto forumers hate Tridel's architecture, I'd gladly take one of their projects in B-lo!

Sadly, it seems nothing in B-Lo gets built unless Palindino has anything to do with it. As far as we're concerned, Tridel is most impressive.:yes:

[M II A II R II K]

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/September2005/26/c3961.html


Ritz-Carlton, Cadillac Fairview and Graywood Developments create joint venture for Toronto luxury hotel and condominium

Joint venture a historic first for The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company, L.L.C.

Cadillac Fairview to build 48-storey office tower beside Toronto's first five-star hotel

TORONTO, Sept. 26 /CNW/ - The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company of Chevy Chase, Md., Graywood Developments Ltd. and The Cadillac Fairview Corp. Ltd., of Toronto, announced today the three companies will jointly own The Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences Toronto.

The 53-storey Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences, Toronto will be the first Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences in Canada and the first five-star hotel in Toronto. The $325-million tower will be built on the south side of Wellington Street, between Simcoe and John Streets.

Previously, the development role for Ritz-Carlton was limited to the hotel portion of the combined luxury hotel and condominium building. Under the new ownership structure announced today, Ritz-Carlton becomes a joint-venture partner in the entire building, including the condominium residences.

"This is a first for Ritz-Carlton in the world and is indicative of our
confidence in this project and the strength of this location," said Simon Cooper, chief operating officer and president of The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company. "The demand for luxury hotels is tremendous right now, and is especially strong in cosmopolitan areas, financial centres and gateway cities like Toronto."

The slim and elegant tower with its striking design - above the 26th floor, the building grows wider as it rises - will have 267 five-star hotel rooms on storeys six to 20. Storeys 22 to 52 will contain 135 luxury condominium residences and a five-storey podium will contain conference and meeting facilities, fine-dining restaurants and a 2,000-square-metre, full-service spa.

Cadillac Fairview president and chief executive officer Peter Sharpe revealed today that the company will develop a 48-storey, Class AAA office tower with 1.2 million sq. ft. of commercial space on land immediately to the east of The Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences Toronto.

At an estimated construction value of $400 million, the office tower will
complement the existing Simcoe Place at the northwest corner of Simcoe and
Front Streets.
"At Cadillac Fairview, part of our core business is to develop
best-in-class retail, office and mixed-use developments in unique, dynamic
urban centres," said Sharpe. "This site is adjacent to Toronto's financial and
entertainment districts. And, the office tower will stand right beside The
Ritz-Carlton, providing a built-in clientele for the hotel."
The office development will create more than 1,700 construction jobs and
bring approximately 500 full and part-time positions to downtown Toronto.
Cadillac Fairview anticipates the office tower will be ready for occupancy in
summer 2009.
Construction of The Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences Toronto will create
approximately 1,500 construction jobs and more than 500 permanent, full-time
jobs. Construction will start in 2006 and completion is scheduled in 2009.
Destined to be a Toronto landmark with its striking, modern architecture,
the 700,000 sq. ft. Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences Toronto was jointly
designed by Kohn Pedersen Fox (KPF) Associates Architects and Planners, based
in New York and Toronto-based Page & Steele Architects.
The condominium sales office for The Ritz-Carlton Hotel and Residences
Toronto opens on the site in early October. Most suites will range in price
from $1 million to more than $3 million and in size from 2,000 to more than
3,000 sq. ft.

The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company, L.L.C., of Chevy Chase, Md., (USA)
operates 59 hotels in the Americas, Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa.
It is the only service company to have twice earned the Malcolm Baldridge
National Quality Award, which recognizes outstanding customer service. Since
2001, The Ritz-Carlton has successfully opened 23 hotel and resort properties,
an expansion program driven by the company's philosophy of gradually evolving
to accommodate the changing needs of a clientele seeking more contemporary
design standards and a less formal, more relaxed atmosphere of elegance.

The Cadillac Fairview Corp. Ltd. is one of North America's largest
investors, owners and managers of commercial real estate. Cadillac Fairview
focuses on high quality retail centres and office properties in Canada and the
United States and also oversees equity investments in real estate companies
and international investment funds. With a portfolio valued at approximately
$11 billion, Cadillac Fairview and its affiliates own and manage 89
properties, including some of Canada's landmark developments such as the
Toronto-Dominion Centre, the Toronto Eaton Centre, Pacific Centre, Carrefour
Laval, Chinook Centre and Sherway Gardens. Cadillac Fairview is wholly owned
by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan.

Graywood Developments Ltd. has completed major residential, commercial,
office and hotel projects in both Canada and the United States. In the Greater
Toronto Area, the company's condominium developments include Number One York
Quay, Landmark of Thornhill and 370 King West.



For further information: David Eisenstadt, Rhoda Eisenstadt,
Beth Merrick, The Communications Group Inc., (416) 696-9900,
deisenstadt@tcgpr.com, reisenstadt@tcgpr.com, bmerrick@tcgpr.com;
Vivian Deuschl, The Ritz-Carlton Hotel Company, L.L.C., (703) 941-6225,
vivian.deuschl@ritzcarlton.com; Neil Murphy, Cadillac Fairview Corp. Ltd.,
(416) 598-8645, neil.murphy@cadillacfairview.com