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malec
07-31-2005, 12:48 AM
Culwulla's diagram

quick view

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7664/37934363955b708b8d13o.jpg


poster

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7664/37934363955b708b8d13o.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/37934363955b708b8d13o.jpg/)



Edited by malec:

I have included a few new goodies this time. :)


How to read my tables.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4573/33945173.jpg


The general progress of the towers and stats, etc.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2172/84776403.jpg


How the construction is expected to progress on these towers. For this I didn't use official schedules, just did them based on my own intuition and observation of construction of these type of towers in general. They could be wrong so nobody should take these as set in stone at all. Also this is assuming things go as they are currently going now and no major surprises, good or bad. :)
You'll notice I've given timetables for damac heights and the lighthouse tower which are now on hold. Work on damac heights is supposed to start soon enough and also there is a chance more work will be done on the lighthouse. I've made the timetable assuming they do get started and then a main contractor. Same with burj al alam and the pentominium.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4465/70099938.jpg


The projected number of supertalls as the years go by.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3314/55223498.jpg



Dubai Supertall Progress Report


Nakheel Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=722506)

As dead as a door nail.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4882/081005nhharbordayeb3.th.jpg (http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=081005nhharbordayeb3.jpg) http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/568/20u1seq.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20u1seq.jpg)


Burj Dubai (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=534013)

Cladding work has increased in speed recently

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2988/burjdubaiyr0.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=burjdubaiyr0.jpg) http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9749/j7spqb.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/j7spqb.jpg/)


Pentominium (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451708)

Piling is finished and excavation is going on to reveal the pile caps. The main contractor is ACC who have a lot of experience building supertalls. They have built or are building the princess tower, elite residence, almas tower, rose rotana, etihad towers and central market in Abu Dhabi.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3842/25rjvr5.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25rjvr5.jpg) http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5181/1zl6lav.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/1zl6lav.jpg/)


One Park Avenue (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=705098)

Dead.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5646/dsc08472ys9.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc08472ys9.jpg) http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4302/imresolt143om5.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt143om5.jpg)


Dubai Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415209)

Dead

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7162/dubaitowers2kc7qq5.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dubaitowers2kc7qq5.jpg) http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3761/4lkgh3.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4lkgh3.jpg)


Burj al Alam (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=325591)

Piling work has been restarted here and is going on at a fairly quick pace. Piling is supposed to be completed at the start of the next year.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/5240/v4azdk.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v4azdk.jpg) http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8831/hsj63b.th.jpg (http://img188.imageshack.us/i/hsj63b.jpg/)


Burj al Fattan (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=594988)

The height has been revealed as 463m from a document from somebody working on the design. The demolition is pretty much done now. We will see soon whether this area becomes a construction site or a car park!

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3918/dx00637burjalfattan11.th.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/dx00637burjalfattan11.jpg/) http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2648/2wf8kko.th.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/i/2wf8kko.jpg/)


Bin Manana Twin Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=477586)

Piling continues but slowly.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9558/imresolt18mf3.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt18mf3.jpg) http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/43/wuf7cx.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/wuf7cx.jpg/)


Damac Heights (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=488517)

Nothing here but there is a redesign expected and apparently Damac still want to build this in some shape or form.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5231/imageia2kc0.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imageia2kc0.jpg) http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3312/awvuwh.th.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/my.php?image=awvuwh.jpg)


Marina 106 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=629936)

This has gotten very slow recently. Almost on hold I think but we will see.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1572/oka745.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oka745.jpg) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9424/10d5kax.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/10d5kax.jpg/)


Princess Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=381420)

This has definitely slowed down. The tower rises only one floor every two weeks now. Core is on the 66th floor.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/5015/208u0j7.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=208u0j7.jpg) http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9918/dm4mfn.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/dm4mfn.jpg/)


Marina 101 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=435154)

Once the regular floors started this started rising quickly. The tower is now on the 26th floor.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9884/2884cog.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2884cog.jpg) http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4158/f4kx08.th.jpg (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/f4kx08.jpg/)


The Lighthouse (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=465596)

Piling has been completed but this is now on hold since there has been no main contractor selected.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/7223/9981100020atkins20lightrw6.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9981100020atkins20lightrw6.jpg) http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5272/vdo878.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/vdo878.jpg/)


23 Marina (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=341366)

Progress is steady, not slow and not fast. They have started work on the last section of floors which is a set of 24 floors which will have balconies with pools on them. Will be interesting to see how they look. I expect progress to slow down a little because of every second floor being different. Should reach 300m in the new year I think.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6076/30d8ga9.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30d8ga9.jpg) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4813/2rgyypf.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/2rgyypf.jpg/)


Emirates Park Towers (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=425215)

Excellent progress here. Somewhere above the 60th floor now and should pass 300m before the end of the year.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/8009/emirates4bj.th.jpg (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=emirates4bj.jpg) http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4627/2hquxz9.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/2hquxz9.jpg/)


Elite Residence (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=487990)

This is also very slow. They have been building the 2nd and 3rd floors above the podium for ages and are only now starting to get past.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6189/25plsv5.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25plsv5.jpg) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3222/rmmnuw.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/rmmnuw.jpg/)


Almas Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=341341)

Still not completed but is actually partially occupied already.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2738/30adr3p.th.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30adr3p.jpg) http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7169/34et3tf.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/34et3tf.jpg/)


Al Attar Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=342226)

Progress continues on the cladding but very slow. Nothing yet on the spire.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3461/2ch6cg8.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2ch6cg8.jpg) http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8704/v3pooo.th.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/v3pooo.jpg/)


The Torch (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=381118)

Progress continues to be very good here. The tower is on the 75th floor while the core is at the 77th or 78th floor. This should reach 300m in a few weeks.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3838/2cmvhx4.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2cmvhx4.jpg) http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9637/2l3szr.th.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/2l3szr.jpg/)


Rose Rotana Suites (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=425284)

A completed but unused tower on SZR.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9972/3002738qa.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3002738qa.jpg) http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1629/img6054ocl.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6054ocl.jpg)


The Skyscraper (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=782096)

Very very slow, almost dead.

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1157/stillaal4sd6.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stillaal4sd6.jpg) http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9539/a462w9.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/i/a462w9.jpg/)


Al Yacoub Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=381101)

Work here has picked up speed once again after going on hold for a while. The height has increased by a few floors and lots of cladding (but ugly) has been put on. The tower seems to be somewhere near the 65th floor while the core is around 2 or 3 levels above.

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1963/bigben1mt.th.jpg (http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bigben1mt.jpg) http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5893/dow3yv.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/dow3yv.jpg/)


The Index (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=341358)

Very slow still but there is progress at least. Cladding at the tower is continuing at a slow pace.

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/9852/index4ot.th.jpg (http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=index4ot.jpg) http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4710/33vhlx4.th.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/33vhlx4.jpg/)


HHHR Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=502746)

Cladding work is progressing well and this tower should be complete early next year.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3038/3451o47te8.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3451o47te8.jpg) http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3644/2hclzye.th.jpg (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/2hclzye.jpg/)


Ocean Heights (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=435149)

Excellent work here and looking great too. Tower on the 68th floor and core probably on the 70th. Should top out before the year’s end.

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4388/5md5l3.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5md5l3.jpg) http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/416/rj34ab.th.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/rj34ab.jpg/)


Infinity Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=358434)

Work is progressing well here. The tower is on the 14th floor while the core is somewhere near the 20th.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9089/ax1tl1.th.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ax1tl1.jpg) http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4381/2yzeavl.th.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/2yzeavl.jpg/)


Al Hekma Tower (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=429121)

Dead

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2462/imresolt130xd4wp8.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt130xd4wp8.jpg) http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/2003/308b0oi.th.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=308b0oi.jpg)

ThreeHundred
07-31-2005, 06:31 AM
Aside from Ocean Heights, nothing really stands out. Burj Dubai, as tall as it is, is rather boring to me. I don't give a shit how tall it is.

BayRidgeFever
07-31-2005, 07:00 AM
The day a 205 floor building gets built I'll die. They say anything over 60 floors (I think) is basically a financial loss.

malec
07-31-2005, 10:25 AM
The day a 205 floor building gets built I'll die. They say anything over 60 floors (I think) is basically a financial loss.
Not necessarily, it all depends on where it's built. It's cheaper to build in Dubai for various reasons so I'd say this limit you're talking about is a good bit higher there.
For example the 160 floor Burj Dubai is costing $800million while the Trump international hotel that's half the height is costing $740million according to emporis. Out of that list the Burj Dubai, the Al Burj and probably that 110 floor residential are the only buildings above this limit I think. While Emaar (Burj Dubai) and Nakheel (Al Burj) can afford to make a loss with these, the construction companies for the others cannot as some only have one tower in Dubai. It's not the government that's ordering 20 300m towers to be built but the companies decide this themselves. If they couldn't make back the money why would they bother building this high?

smussuw
07-31-2005, 10:28 AM
Well malec u should think twice because nothing can satisfy those americans.

malec
07-31-2005, 10:34 AM
No need to be so harsh:)
Anyhoo, just found out the Burj Dubai Lake hotel is 300m but skyscrapercity just went down, AGAIN and can't get the renders and info:pissed:
Will add as soon as it's up, now where the hell's that Skyscrapercity is shit thread? :)

OK, SSC back up and edited 1st post.

FlyersFan118
08-01-2005, 07:33 AM
Hold on, so Burj Dubai's HOTEL is still taller than most buildings in America?!


Bastards.




I envy you.

Fabb
08-01-2005, 08:47 AM
Al Burj and Al Durrah 2 are the only ones that are really elegant.

bryson662001
08-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Talk about fashon victims. What's going to happen in 30 or 40 years when all these towers go out of style. Can anyone say Brazilia.

TTU Arch
08-01-2005, 06:29 PM
Question: Does anyone else feel that the buildings just seem to run all together looking like one another?

Yes the designs are different, but the overall style seems to look all the same and no longer does on building stand out. One thing that makes good architecture is one piece standing out from the rest. Just afraid the designers are getting carried away with the Jorge Jetson look.

Matty
08-01-2005, 06:59 PM
Well malec u should think twice because nothing can satisfy those americans.

Woah... Hold on a sec, I need to recover, ignorance and idiocy always hit me hard...

malec
08-01-2005, 07:24 PM
Question: Does anyone else feel that the buildings just seem to run all together looking like one another?

Yes the designs are different, but the overall style seems to look all the same and no longer does on building stand out. One thing that makes good architecture is one piece standing out from the rest. Just afraid the designers are getting carried away with the Jorge Jetson look.

Yes I agree that the styles of the buildings are pretty similar. I don't like how some of those towers look almost the same, ie: najd tower, princess tower, marina gardens and rotana hotel all look the same. As I said on SSC it's ok for 150m towers to look the same but not for 300m ones.
Within that list however, there are plenty of great designs too such as burj dubai, almas tower, al durrah, burj al arab, etc... which I feel will stand out for more than just because of height.

BayRidgeFever
08-01-2005, 08:08 PM
Matty let the Dubai people brag. We know what we have right in front of us. :)

malec
08-02-2005, 12:27 AM
Just added the estimated completion dates. I knocked back Burj Dubai by a year as it'll probably be late with construction (it's normal I guess as nobody has built to this height range yet).

And thanks to the mods for correcting the spelling mistake at the start:D

tanzirian
08-02-2005, 04:04 AM
If these buildings were American, I bet there would be nicer comments here (contrast the many praises heaped on the bland FT and awkward Calatrava).

I personally think Burj Dubai is one of the best 2000 ft+ proposals ever, together with Tokyo Millenium Tower and Miglin Skyneedle (and what's more, its actually getting built). It's Oz come to life, only much more elegantly proportioned.

The other 2000 ft+ tower I don't like. Nothing impressive but the height. I hope they don't build it - it will distract from the much nicer BD.

As for the remaining proposed towers, they are not that impressive in and of themselves, but I think they will look great together in the skyline.

Lecom
08-02-2005, 04:09 AM
Insanity.

Evilon Doomm
08-02-2005, 07:17 AM
So many tall towers and yet none of them manage to impress me. Not even that Al Burj one tickles my fancy. It looks like something that Paul Steelman would come up with on a good day.

Stephenapolis
08-02-2005, 07:23 AM
Those are some prety nice looking towers for the most part. It would be cool to see them all built.

giallo
08-02-2005, 07:37 AM
I'm lovin' the Al Burj tower.

Fabb
08-02-2005, 10:16 AM
Most of them are extremely slender. I wouldn't mind a couple of big ones for a change.

Chicago103
08-05-2005, 07:44 PM
Al Burj actually looks nice I think, of course it could just be the night picture but it looks better than Burj Dubai in its respective picture.

malek
08-08-2005, 01:11 AM
and who's gonna fill them??

are you guys trying to copy pyongyang?

wisla_krakow
08-12-2005, 01:47 AM
^ That's kind of what I'm thinking. They are beautiful buildings, but this is like the Egyptian's building those massive pyramids for only 1 person. Doesn't make sense, economicaly that is.

JACKinNYC
08-12-2005, 04:03 AM
I like this one.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9025/burjdubaihotel2ec.jpg

STR
08-12-2005, 04:12 AM
That Al Burj is hideous. I wouldn't want to curse any city on Earth with that piece of crap. Plus, it's name translates literally into "The Tower." How lame is that?

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/591/4023al_burj1.jpg

MSP
08-12-2005, 05:47 AM
I would love to see a current skyline shot of Dubai...

Pandemonious
08-12-2005, 07:08 PM
Is anyone else suspicious of the heights of some of these buildings?

especially these three:
Almas Tower: 65F, 1,148 ft
Al Durrah 2: 78F, 1,082 ft
Abbco Rotana Hotel: 72F, 1,092 ft

Their spires don't look that tall in the renderings. The Almas Tower is especially ridiculous... that spire clearly isn't more than about a tenth of the building's height, and it is 1,148 ft tall, with only 65 stories? Even generously assuming its spire is 200 feet, which it doesnt look to be in the renderings.. in order for the height to make sense it has to have almost 15 foot floor heights... Even the most luxurious office buildings typically don't have their floors that high.
The same goes for Al Durrah 2, it would have to have nearly 14 foot floor heights to make any sense...

These are clearly all residential towers, and even taking into account that the spire adds height, the heights really don't make sense, unless they are building all of their residential structures with office space sized floor to ceiling heights, which seems to defy economic sense.

Whats up with this?

Navyweaxguy
08-13-2005, 03:48 PM
I actually love all of these buildings. I was in Dubai in '98 and loved it. I knew back then that this city was taking off quick. Errr, if I only had the money to invest there.

Yes, we need a new skyline shot. :)

Swede
08-13-2005, 04:36 PM
That Al Burj is hideous. I wouldn't want to curse any city on Earth with that piece of crap. Plus, it's name translates literally into "The Tower." How lame is that?
The name might be lame as can be, but I like the tower itself. Kinda Courascant-y.

AJphx
08-14-2005, 09:16 AM
yeah I think Al-Burj looks great.

malec
08-14-2005, 04:44 PM
Added the Park Square Tower even though there's no render. It's serious enough now to be added to the list as lots of major newspapers have reported about it (ie: gulfnews, etc...)

BTW I don't really like Al Burj myself. Although it looks great at night it's way out of scale. Burj Dubai seems more elegant to me.

Grumpy
08-17-2005, 11:23 PM
I would love to see a current skyline shot of Dubai...

Me too.

Biff
08-18-2005, 09:33 PM
Does anyone in Dubai design a building that isn't 300m +? All of these buildings in the renderings are so damn skinny. The owners must have a shitload of money and big egos to build what seems to be not very financially smart projects. I mean look at the Emirates Towers - 59 floors over 1000 ft tall. That is a pretty low floor to height ratio.

Either way, very impressive the amount of construction happening there right now. I would love to see some of those in these parts but....

Crazy Ivan
09-03-2005, 11:16 PM
STR, I sense a little tension. A day at the spa might help.

I actually like the building. Its height seems excessive given the surroundings, but I like the design better than the Burj Dubai.

garry7772000
09-04-2005, 07:16 PM
This is crazy! Whatever happened to America being the skyscraper queen of the world? All the rest of the countries in the world are prospering and progressing and we are regressing! Something wrong with all of this picture.

All of these plans and proposals make me extremely jealous.

Garry

phillyskyline
09-04-2005, 07:18 PM
^ Welcome to the global economy.... I think sometimes here in the US we are so blind to see how rest of the world has progressed, the American media loves to portray other countries in a dark light so we are unaware of everyone else moving forward... I personally think its great.:hilarious

phillyskyline
09-04-2005, 07:21 PM
Oh & I would also love to see a current rendering of the Dubai skyline!

garry7772000
09-04-2005, 07:26 PM
I guess that's what oil can do for you. I was told, and think I read somewhere of investigation and research of drilling and oil prospects off the Atlantic coast of Florida; just think if they found oil off the coast of say, Jacksonville; then Jax would probably become America's new Dubai! Well, maybe....I can dream.

Garry

garry7772000
09-04-2005, 07:40 PM
I just went to skyscrapers.com and here is the rundown on Dubai:

a) Tallest building at present is the emirates office tower - 355 meters or 1,163 feet tall, with only 54 stories!

b) They (Dubai) currently have 3 buildings over 1,000 feet, 9 buildings over 600 feet, and 12 buildings between 400 and 500 feet tall! The number of buildings from 200 feet to 400 feet are numerous.

c) Dubai currently has 230 buildings, that is, skyscrapers under construction. Currently of the skyscrapers over 1,000 feet not yet built, 6 are under construction, and 5 are approved. That's 11 soaring to heights unknown in the very near future! Astounding to say the least!

d) The rest of the skyscrapers from 200 to 999 feet tall, there are numerous scrapers under construction at the present time, and an equal number approved and proposed. They are too numerous to list here. See skyscrapers.com for more info!

This is all overwhelming and breathtaking to say the least. It appears that the rest of the world is becoming more futuristic, very quickly, than America. The scrapers I saw in the movie Star wars reminds me of what Dubai is building; I don't see these type of visions in skyscraper building and construction in America.

Hopefully we'll get our economy back on track and get back in the thick of things.

Garry

Goody
09-04-2005, 09:02 PM
I am still waiting for Dubai to Crash and Burn. I cant see it working. If emporis is to be trusted the country is smaller then New Jeresy in both respects.

malec
09-04-2005, 11:08 PM
Oh & I would also love to see a current rendering of the Dubai skyline!

Dubai doesn't have one single skyline but a few clusters. One is in the old centre where the towers are not so tall, one is the famous highway one and the other is the marina, jumeirah lakes and media city. The highway one will change to more of a cluster in the future.

BTW as I already said the tower heights aren't as crazy as they seem. First of all a lot of them have massive spires so some won't reach 300m to the roof. Secondly there's nothing to say some will get shelved or reduced. If you read skyscrapercity there are rumours of new height restrictions due to the airport (It's very silly in some cases). The Al Durrah might be reduced to 200m quoted by an informed forumer over at SSC due to this. This restriction is quite stupid since Emirates towers across the road reach up to 350m. Aswell al durrah is miles away from the airport. (pity because that was one of my favourite designs). One tower which is in big trouble is the megatall at park square though.

The renders of al burj show it having 205 floors and reaching around 900m in height. There's no way it'll be built that tall and I doubt they will build anything taller than burj dubai simply because "dubai" is not in the name of the tower which helps it stand as a symbol for the city.

malec
09-10-2005, 11:51 PM
Just made a few small changes. As I've said already there're going to be some new height restrictions around the airport. This might be because of Emirates' new fleet of A380s but whatever the reason 2 of the towers on the list will be affected. The worst affected project in Dubai is Park Square and not only the really tall tower but also some of the others aswell. The 2nd supertall affected is Al Durrah 2 but maybe it's just be moved further down the highway.
Anyway, changed their chances of being built to 3/10.

For some good news there should be another supertall released for the marina later this month. It was in a thread in SSC. Aswell there are 8 plots in Business bay with unlimited height and rumours are that one is a 101 floor tower and a forumer there who saw the plans says the design is amazing. There's this sort of convention on next week in Dubai called cityscape where there's a good chance we'll see more of these. We have to see.

malec
09-18-2005, 02:51 PM
Don't think anyone gives a shit but I'll post this anyway.

Big day for Dubai projects. There's a massive exhibition there this weekend and there's lots of info about new projects and towers and about existing ones aswell.
There could be some info on that 150 story one too but don't know that yet.

76 storey tower (AL SHARQ TOWER) designed by SOM but definitely over 300m. It's on sheik zayed road.
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/9508/untitled1copy2qb.jpg

A nice one with Burj Dubai in the background
http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/3/17623-al.jpg

BTW according to someone there was an 80 storey tower for the marina too but there are no pics yet.

Texas Super
09-18-2005, 05:03 PM
I think this type of architecture is awesome! It may appear to be a little space age and futuristic but I think it will always speak for its self and define the times of its economic boom that will probabley never be seen again for a very long time. I remember a few years ago when many of us were cheering for 7 South Dearborn to be built and it was pretty futuristic looking and with the promise of being the worlds tallest on U.S. soil so I cant snub my nose at an even more incredible structure such as the B.D. I still dont understand the reasoning, management, and timing of this almost insane construction boom that appears to have been preplanned and immediately executed beyond most projects comprehension much less their capabilities. The Dallas city government cant get along long enough to agree on a couple of small issues that would have the Cowboys building a $750 million stadium in Dallas instead of Arlington so this may mean that it takes cooperation and compromise between parties involved regardless of how much money you have. Sometimes when overly sensitive people constantly excercise their right to express their self centered opinions and refuse to negotiate the system boggs down and we get nowhere. Whatever happened to 7 South Dearborn anyway?

malec
09-18-2005, 06:41 PM
I love these type of buildings too. While I like Dubai's skyscraper development there are loads of projects which don't make sense to me at all though eg: Falcon City, the world, palm deira (3rd palm island), etc...

Anyways, here's a model of the above tower.

http://tinypic.com/dr42hf.jpg

And here's infinity tower, 73 floors high in Dubai Marina. Designed by SOM too. A bit too bulky for my liking and looks too much like turning torso. Doesn't it remind you of the old freedom tower aswell? :)

Anyway here's a render:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/P1000774.jpg

And the model (kinda crappy IMO)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/P1000773.jpg

Fabb
09-18-2005, 07:07 PM
76 storey tower (AL SHARQ TOWER) designed by SOM but definitely over 300m. It's on sheik zayed road.
http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/9508/untitled1copy2qb.jpg


Is the rendering realistic ? Because it looks like it's not.

I'm intrigued.
Do you have more details ?

malec
09-18-2005, 07:13 PM
That's actually a very old rendering. That's when it was just a proposal and I think they chose between a few different designs. The model is very good though and certaily more realistic.

Here's the thread on SSC if you want more info:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=258111

colemonkee
09-18-2005, 07:29 PM
The model of Al Sharq Tower looks great! The multiple cylindrical design sets it apart from anything I've seen.

I agree about Infinity being just another rehash of Turning Torso, the old FT, and another tower proposed in Shanghai.

Fabb
09-20-2005, 05:43 PM
The model of Al Sharq Tower looks great! The multiple cylindrical design sets it apart from anything I've seen.

I've seen old similar designs.
I'm thinking of a super-tall, failed project in Japan.

But this one in Dubai is amazingly futuristic.

Grumpy
09-24-2005, 10:07 AM
Almas , AlDurrah & Ocean Heights are superb designed buildings

malec
09-24-2005, 03:09 PM
Look at this model of ocean heights. It doesn't seem to actually twist.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/P1000772.jpg

Pandemonious
09-24-2005, 05:38 PM
The model of Al Sharq Tower looks great! The multiple cylindrical design sets it apart from anything I've seen.

I've seen old similar designs.
I'm thinking of a super-tall, failed project in Japan.

But this one in Dubai is amazingly futuristic.

Dynamic Intelligent Building?

KevinFromTexas
09-25-2005, 04:33 AM
Nice, man none of this stuff was proposed 2 years ago when my computer crashed. So I'm totally blown away by all these projects.

VivaLFuego
09-25-2005, 06:12 AM
This is all overwhelming and breathtaking to say the least. It appears that the rest of the world is becoming more futuristic, very quickly, than America. The scrapers I saw in the movie Star wars reminds me of what Dubai is building; I don't see these type of visions in skyscraper building and construction in America.

Hopefully we'll get our economy back on track and get back in the thick of things.

Garry

Whoa there, careful now. Slow down. Building a skyscraper like this in the US is much different than in Asia. Several points.

1) As someone pointed out, the Burj Dubai is costing a similar amount (I've ever seen figures lower than) as the Trump Tower Chicago, whose roof rises to 1,130ft. Construction costs are way higher here. Do a little research as to who's providing the labor in Dubai (certainly not Emiratis!), and how much they're getting paid, what benefits they receive, what safety regulations are protecting them, and so on.

2) Consider the planning/zoning/approval/political process American projects have to go through; the red tape is insane. Trump took 4+ years from conception of Trump Tower Chicago to having a shovel in the ground. In America, we deal with NIMBYs, who fight tooth and nail through the political process to prevent towers from getting built high.

In Dubai and elsewhere in Asia (with exceptions in places like tokyo), its just a rubber stamp. Done and done.

We're doin' just fine here in America; look at NY, Chicago, Miami, Philly, just to name a few. And to the north, Toronto and Vancouver are booming.

If the Freedom Tower actually gets built, it will be a much bigger accomplishment on the part of humanity (and real estate developers) than Burj Dubai could ever hope to be; though I'm biased as a Chicagoan, I think Trump made a huge accomplishment in getting his TTC built.

All this said, I'm a fan of alot these projects going up in Dubai. Alot are bland, but you can say that of highrise booms anywhere in the world. The Burj Dubai isn't groundbreaking in design so much as height. But a reliably pleasing and proportional design from Adrian Smith.

I think the Burj al-Arab Hotel (the Sail) is fantastic.

phillyskyline
09-25-2005, 05:12 PM
^ you make some valid points, especially when you consider who is developing these towers in Asia & countries... The US firms are providing the technology & know-how to construct these massive towers... I am a fan of all skyscrapers, no matter where on earth they are & i'm looking forward to Burj-al

malec
10-06-2005, 12:44 AM
Trump set to trump in Dubai :)

A weird tower in the shape of some flower will be built on the palm jumeirah. Usually I'm not a fan of this type of architecture but in this case I find it really fits its location well. Also since it's a hotel I really doubt it'll be as fat as in this render. Just some inaccuracy I'd say.
A forumer who has inside info said this will be 360m high and have 80 floors. The renders and the model show it being only about half the height so I'll add it at the end of the list.

Here's the render:

http://www.tradearabia.com/source/2005-10/05/trump.jpg

Here's a pic of Donald and the CEO of Nakheel :):

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/4/18354-trump.jpg

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Since there are a few towers which have unknown heights some of these mightn't turn out to be supertall. I've now divided the first post into 2 lists. One for towers with known heights or that are without a doubt 300m+, and one for the others.

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There has been no news about marina gardens for almost a year and the only info we have is the floor count and some shitty render. I'll take it off the list then since it seems to be a stale proposal. Hope it gets the axe anyway because it looks like a pile of crap.

Fabb
10-13-2005, 04:10 PM
It doesn't look 360 m tall.
If it is, that will be one huge monster.

malec
10-16-2005, 07:49 PM
^^ Thankfully it isn't. Just found that it's only 38F so it's off the list :)

malec
11-01-2005, 12:47 PM
I just added this proposed 3-tower complex to the supertall list:

It'll consist of one 340m/85F office tower, a 300m/75F hotel and a 280m/65F res tower. There's no official info on this yet but judging from what a forumer on SSC who works with this sort of stuff said, I'd say it has a good chance of getting built.

The design looks very promising so far but we don't have any renders that are more detailed.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9069/3407wz.jpg

BTW he said enabling works are due to start in 3 weeks. What the hell does that mean? Sorry if it's a stupid question but I want to know.

malec
11-01-2005, 02:03 PM
Aswell, here aresome of the latest construction updates:

Burj Dubai:

http://tinypic.com/f25zmc.jpg

Princess Tower:

http://tinypic.com/eur77n.jpg

23 Marina:

http://tinypic.com/eurdw5.jpg

The Torch:

http://tinypic.com/ezh9q9.jpg

Rose Rotana Hotel:

http://tinypic.com/f24r4i.jpg

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According to the same guy who told us about the 3-tower complex above, Frank Gehry and Calatrava might be designing some towers for Dubai. These are just rumours though. Also Donald Trump might build some talls in the future.
Also that forumer's company is working on a 300m tower themselves. He also mentioned plans for a twin set of 88F towers for Abu Dhabi.
As he puts it: "exciting times boys" :D

Cbautz
11-05-2005, 12:40 AM
Infinity tower is a nice design. I personally think it is the most architecturally interesting of the group.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/altind/P1000774.jpg

James Bond Agent 007
11-05-2005, 07:38 AM
This place is just unreal . . .

Does anyone have occupancy rates for offices and apartments in Dubai? I'm just dying to know how much of this space is actually being occupied.

JV_325i
11-10-2005, 07:59 PM
I don't know if these are only going to be in the renderings, but I dislike how a lot of the new buildings are on their own pedastal-type structures and/or their own mini-islands as it appears with that first super-tall one. I personally think this makes the buildings look weak and not cohesive amongst themselves. It would work better if they blended in better to the already present cityscape in my opinion. But who knows, maybe the buildings are so tall that they need that bottom base thing.

malec
11-10-2005, 09:12 PM
I think in Dubai there's this problem of building underground. I'm not sure but it might be got to do with water of something like that. Because of this towers are either built on top of a podium or else have an ugly multi-storey built behind the tower (as is the case for all the towers along that highway).

I think some towers integrate that pedestral thingy pretty well into the rest of the tower but I'd agree with you there are some which look like plain shite!

Here's what I think's a great design. Even the car park is properly done:

http://tinypic.com/dr42hf.jpg

Lecom
11-11-2005, 09:00 PM
^ Living in aluminum smokestacks. Looks cool anyway.

malec
11-12-2005, 08:12 PM
Infinity tower is a nice design. I personally think it is the most architecturally interesting of the group.


I don't like Infinity tower as much as some of the others, simply because it's too turning torso-like. Still good looking nonetheless but if this was built before turning torso, I would have most likely thought otherwise. The most interesting tower I think is Ocean heights because it gives the illusion that it twists when in fact it doesn't.

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I found this on www.worldarchitecturenews.com and in terms of getting built, is given the same status as london bridge tower and freedom tower, ie: "design"

This is definitely the craziest proposal for a tower I've ever seen. I'll give it a 2/10 chance of being built :D
Still a serious proposal though and not just some vision though, so that's enough for it to be here:


International firm Dos Architects have been selected to design this 93 floor tower which provide 632 flats. The architects have aimed to create an aesthetic appearance and functionality which are the product of a direct relationship with the surrounding natural environment. Solar panels will provide up to 25% of the total energy consumed within the tower. Its mass and thickness give inertia to the building, as well as thermal resistance to temperature fluctuations in Dubai. Other passive strategies have been adopted to minimise the use of air conditioning and other active devices with great advantages for the occupants’ health, as well as reduced running costs and overall impact of the tower on the environment. Its geometry makes the building almost self-shading to all the glazed elements, whilst still allowing openings to enjoy the external panoramic view. The building’s colour has been inspired by the sand of the dunes.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg



I really don't know what to think of this. I love black scrapers (my fav is TWT) but this is just so crazy. :crazy: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

malec
11-13-2005, 11:32 AM
Infinity tower confirmed to be 80F high and 330m.

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/sports/sports_01.jpg

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/sports/sports_05.jpg

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/location/marina_04.jpg

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/location/marina_05.jpg

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/building/building_04.jpg

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/building/building_05.jpg

http://web8.p15170619.pureserver.info/fileadmin/images/building/building_06.jpg

Fabb
11-13-2005, 12:16 PM
I just added this proposed 3-tower complex to the supertall list:

It'll consist of one 340m/85F office tower, a 300m/75F hotel and a 280m/65F res tower. There's no official info on this yet but judging from what a forumer on SSC who works with this sort of stuff said, I'd say it has a good chance of getting built.


http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/9069/3407wz.jpg


Nice cluster. It's very unlike the typical developments in Dubai.

malec
11-16-2005, 07:26 PM
According to SA Boy on SSC who works with this sort of stuff, this res tower has been cancelled:

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4953/110funnamed3fm.jpg

Fabb
11-17-2005, 08:28 AM
Hopefully it won't be the first in a long list.

colemonkee
11-17-2005, 04:08 PM
That one won't be missed much. Sure it was tall, but the design was sub par. Infinity, on the other hand, looks nice, and has such a prominent location in the marina that when it's finished, helicopter rides over the ocean to get photos are definitely in order.

malec
11-17-2005, 06:02 PM
I know it's not the best looking but I'd prefer if princess tower went instead of this. It'll be of similar height but looks worse than this IMO. At least this one has quite a nice top but still, neither are worthy of the tallest res title.

TTU Arch
11-18-2005, 04:20 PM
I guess once one building twists they all have to, until the next trend comes along.

giallo
11-19-2005, 12:51 AM
Infinity tower is a nice design. I personally think it is the most architecturally interesting of the group.


I don't like Infinity tower as much as some of the others, simply because it's too turning torso-like. Still good looking nonetheless but if this was built before turning torso, I would have most likely thought otherwise. The most interesting tower I think is Ocean heights because it gives the illusion that it twists when in fact it doesn't.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I found this on www.worldarchitecturenews.com and in terms of getting built, is given the same status as london bridge tower and freedom tower, ie: "design"

This is definitely the craziest proposal for a tower I've ever seen. I'll give it a 2/10 chance of being built :D
Still a serious proposal though and not just some vision though, so that's enough for it to be here:


International firm Dos Architects have been selected to design this 93 floor tower which provide 632 flats. The architects have aimed to create an aesthetic appearance and functionality which are the product of a direct relationship with the surrounding natural environment. Solar panels will provide up to 25% of the total energy consumed within the tower. Its mass and thickness give inertia to the building, as well as thermal resistance to temperature fluctuations in Dubai. Other passive strategies have been adopted to minimise the use of air conditioning and other active devices with great advantages for the occupants’ health, as well as reduced running costs and overall impact of the tower on the environment. Its geometry makes the building almost self-shading to all the glazed elements, whilst still allowing openings to enjoy the external panoramic view. The building’s colour has been inspired by the sand of the dunes.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/154_385%20Dubai%20B08_black+gold.jpg



I really don't know what to think of this. I love black scrapers (my fav is TWT) but this is just so crazy. :crazy: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:


This is the first skyscraper that actually looks alien to me. I fucking love it!!

Amazing Indy
11-19-2005, 04:42 AM
^ its also amazing how Dubai also kinda looks like the Back Bay of Boston.:sly

malec
11-20-2005, 09:31 PM
I'm surprised I didn't post these here yet. Here is a kick-ass rendering made by Larven that shows the supertalls in the marina. Keep in mind that this in no way does it show all the towers. There will be many more on the opposite side of the marina and jumeirah lake towers behind the highway where almas tower will form the centrepiece

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5531/map34bq.jpg

And now a crappy one by me:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/7880/marinadone8oj.jpg

(image originally taken by essa on SSC

JACKinNYC
11-20-2005, 11:57 PM
That's insane.

malec
11-21-2005, 12:19 AM
And now, 2010. The equivalent of 3 rows like the one above will be built (mostly between 20 and 45F, only 1 supertall):

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7712/marinadone5dd.jpg

Amazing Indy
11-21-2005, 01:44 AM
That's absolutely insane....what a view and what a collection of buildings. Damn.

marmorek
11-21-2005, 03:18 AM
And now, 2010. The equivalent of 3 rows like the one above will be built (mostly between 20 and 45F, only 1 supertall):

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7712/marinadone5dd.jpg

Wow. :yes:

James Bond Agent 007
11-21-2005, 05:01 AM
^
I second that.

malec
11-21-2005, 04:42 PM
Of course the most towers won't actually look ugly and grey like that.

Fabb
11-21-2005, 05:04 PM
The whole is definitely better than the sum of its parts.

banned
11-21-2005, 05:09 PM
The whole is definitely better than the sum of its parts.
:sly That means the same thing.

Fabb
11-21-2005, 05:38 PM
No it doesn't.
It means that, in the field of urban planning, 1+1=3
Or, 1+1+1=5
Or, ...

colemonkee
11-21-2005, 05:38 PM
Damn. That's like an instant Manhattan. Just add water...

Jasonhouse
11-21-2005, 06:07 PM
^The skyline may share some similarities, based on visual impact, but there are strong indications that at ground level, this will be NOTHING like Manhattan.

Grumpy
11-21-2005, 08:22 PM
Now I going to write something down that wont be appreciated imho :

Despite all those magnificent towers , Dubai lacks a total masterplan for its towers, it could have been so much better when they were built on another spot in the city like Al Jaddaf for instance.

malec
11-25-2005, 12:11 AM
More progress on Rose Rotana (and what a lovely shot :D)

http://tinypic.com/hs6s8l.jpg

Just in case you don't see which tower it is ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/soonadracula/hs6s8l.jpg

ThreeHundred
11-27-2005, 02:23 AM
Dubai looks leaps and bounds better at night.

spyguy
11-27-2005, 02:32 AM
Is that just a Photoshop trick?

malec
11-27-2005, 02:57 AM
^^ What photoshop trick?

I think DubaiLover on SSC tweaked these slightly but not too much

ThreeHundred
11-27-2005, 09:01 AM
Dubai is seriously BEAUTIFUL at night. My goodness.

zerokarma
11-28-2005, 03:29 PM
Dubai is turning into one hell of a city, some of it is crazy and unbeliveable but still amazing nonetheless.

malec
11-29-2005, 12:40 AM
Some more news:

8 plots with no height restrictions will be auctioned on the 11th of december. The towers to be built will be mixed-use and are in the business bay development. These are the ONLY plots with unlimited height in this project (which I think is one of the best planned in Dubai). If you don't know already business bay will have about 2 to 3 hundred buildings. Around 65% will be capped off at 20 to 30F, and the rest will be taller, probably to 60, 70F or so. The tallest released so far is 60F and it doesn't occupy one of the 8 unlimited height ones so expect some talls to come from business bay in the future.

The designs will probably not be out for ages though. I think 3 or 4 of the towers built on those plots will be 300m+

malec
12-05-2005, 07:47 PM
:eek:

New project released today. It'll be right next to emirates towers, fill some gaps and get rid of some crappy old buildings. The thing is, the biggest tower you see here looks kind of like the old United Tower and it's also in the exact same place so maybe...

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/1411/dwtc0cm.jpg



UNITED TOWER COULD BE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

http://img112.exs.cx/img112/9227/7c-unitedtower1.jpg

http://img112.exs.cx/img112/4669/08-unitedtower2.jpg

http://www.tp.spt.fi/~jukarkil/uae/united_tower.gif

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/beer.gif

malec
12-05-2005, 07:48 PM
I will add it as proposed

nezzybaby
12-08-2005, 02:36 AM
i think people have got so used to projects being released in dubai that nobody has reacted to the best looking project released in the world this year. Seriously this building is stunning, take note people!!

malec
12-09-2005, 08:13 PM
^^ Exactly. I can't believe though that I got only one reply in almost a week after posting this. This tower's one of the best if not the best tower released in Dubai so far.

Anyway, there might be a 320m 4 seasons hotel in festival city. No renders yet though.

GO_UAE
12-11-2005, 11:38 PM
Baby steps Malec , baby steps ^^



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