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innov8
Jun 11, 2007, 8:33 PM
Innov8, did it rain that day before those pics were taken?

Naw, no rain. From that vantage point, it sure looked like it could have.

TheDerek
Jun 11, 2007, 9:36 PM
Naw, no rain. From that vantage point, it sure looked like it could have.

if that was last wednesday it sure did just about everywhere else ;) unfortunately i was working cause at about 6-7pm the sky looked awesome :(

sactivity
Jun 15, 2007, 1:50 AM
Geez, Mike, ya lookin for a flood or somethin ?? !!!

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/4844/27621cmroof20070511fkj1.jpg

sactivity
Jun 15, 2007, 1:55 AM
^^^ Just kidding, buddy ;)

Sorry everyone -- I've been such a stranger lately. I've been reading but not posting. Been too busy looking for property. We finally bought 6 beautiful acres -- It only took (almost a year) and we put down a deposit on the house we are going to build so we're pretty excited about that.

Anywho -- sorry to hear about the Towers, that sucks -- but this one's looking real good!

innov8
Jun 15, 2007, 6:18 PM
:previous: Good for you Michael :) It's good to hear things are working for you as planned. Take care.

Here are a few shots from my newest thread...

Sacramento – Rolling Down The Boulevard
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=133128


http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3375/421621cm120070505fti3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7973/421621cm320070505fmk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8494/52capitolmallfromcapitovy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5352/69621cm220070505fqo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

sactivity
Jun 16, 2007, 1:42 AM
Nice pics as always -- BTW, Mike -- I saw your 2-page photo in the last issue of Sactown (there might have been more in other issues for all I know, if I missed them, I'm sorry) -- but I saw your name gracing the page and I was beaming with pride! Way to go!

TheDerek
Jun 16, 2007, 1:51 AM
puttin up some glass:
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-1.jpg
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-2.jpg
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-3.jpg
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-4.jpg
Honestly i think the back is gonna look a little wierd...
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-5.jpg
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-6.jpg
Lots of glass gettin ready to be put up: :banger: :banaride:
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-7.jpg

ltsmotorsport
Jun 16, 2007, 6:35 AM
As they say at McDonalds... 'I'm lovin' it'.

Sacto
Jun 17, 2007, 1:21 AM
http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-4.jpg
Honestly i think the back is gonna look a little wierd...


Yeah it does look like, well...A back. But hey at least the front looks great.


Great photos guys!

TheDerek
Jun 17, 2007, 11:16 AM
Yeah it does look like, well...A back. But hey at least the front looks great.


Great photos guys!

you cant really tell from those pics but its at it worst from the very back... my jaw did kinda drop when i drove down that street for the first time, i mean thats a really dark street towards where the building is, there are no highrises along it, its on the downslope of a hill, and this thing is bright as can be... a real giant, it just looks like one huge solar panel or something from that angle. I think it wouldve been awesome looking had it had similar panelling as the sides, only bigger windows/smaller frames (heck the whole building wouldve been better probably)

http://www.awbots.com/img/sacbuild/20070615_edited-18.jpg

This is realy the best picture to show how massive it looks. A wide angle woulda given a better perspective... shoulda woulda coulda :yuck: I'm really not exactly sure what street that is, but i would suggest driving down it just to see what this thing looks like from that angle...

innov8
Jun 17, 2007, 9:53 PM
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/6821/621cm3skyline20070527fvz9.jpg

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/3079/621cm220070527feu7.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7999/621cm20070527fsb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

foxmtbr
Jun 17, 2007, 10:16 PM
Wow! Awesome shots! 621 is looking great. 500 should also help fill in the gap nicely.

Sacto
Jun 18, 2007, 8:03 PM
:tup:

innov8
Jun 24, 2007, 2:00 AM
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1448/621cm120070622fwk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2856/621cm220070622fuh8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7296/621cm320070622ffd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6646/621cm3200706221fpe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9099/621cm420070622fcg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

foxmtbr
Jun 24, 2007, 5:17 AM
Wow, it just keeps looking better! Nice shots. :tup:

Sacto
Jun 24, 2007, 8:42 PM
Here's some shots I took last week.

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/5524/img3477tv2.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1044/img3485ey5.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9765/img3478pl6.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4240/img3474du0.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4421/img3266vj0.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4306/img3233ly3.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9196/img3232pz8.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6301/img3218uu9.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/175/img3210rg0.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1354/img3194ml1.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5490/img3188gx3.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5971/img3181fu0.jpg

JeffZurn
Jun 25, 2007, 4:43 PM
Keeps on getting better, is there a chance Aura is waiting for 621 to be finished before moving forward?

innov8
Jun 25, 2007, 8:02 PM
Great shots Sacto :cheers: that stretch of road is looking good.

JeffZurn: Aura's waiting for financing to fill the gap... we should know if it
happens or not by August.

innov8
Jul 6, 2007, 3:30 AM
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5024/621cm20070703fgl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2106/skyline20070630fvk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sacto
Jul 6, 2007, 6:14 AM
Almost done with the glass there, it'll look nice when it's all finished and crane out of the way. Great pics Innov8!

colemonkee
Jul 6, 2007, 4:01 PM
Great skyline shot, innov8. One of the best I've seen.

urban_encounter
Jul 6, 2007, 5:21 PM
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2106/skyline20070630fvk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Beautiful skyline shot Mike....


:cheers:

innov8
Jul 24, 2007, 11:15 PM
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2470/raleyfieldcam640x480vg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The 621CM crane comes down in August.

San Frangelino
Jul 25, 2007, 12:52 AM
innov8
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2106/skyline20070630fvk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

That is a great shot...I find it gets me excited, considering how the skyline could possibly grow with some of future proposals (rail yards, west sacramento river front, and the docklands.... not to mention infill within the existing skyline). I find it to be the one really positive thing of out migration from the bay area; prospective skyline growth. And I mean that as "positive" for me. I am sure the city benifits in many more ways from the migration. :-D

bennywah
Jul 25, 2007, 1:35 AM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/667/imgp0471ts2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot with PENTAX Optio 750Z (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=PENTAX+Optio+750Z&make=PENTAX+Corporation) at 2007-07-24

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4585/imgp0467af2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot with PENTAX Optio 750Z (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=PENTAX+Optio+750Z&make=PENTAX+Corporation) at 2007-07-24

Jay916
Jul 26, 2007, 5:53 AM
thanks for the pics.

innov8
Jul 27, 2007, 5:39 AM
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1388/621cm220070723ffp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/3161/621cm320070723fbw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9634/621cm420070723fim2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/93/621cm520070723ftf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8100/621cm620070726fue9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sacto
Jul 28, 2007, 11:17 PM
Great shots guys ^ Thanks!

snfenoc
Aug 12, 2007, 9:41 PM
More photos:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/Construction%20Update%208-5-07/DSC_0015.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/Construction%20Update%208-5-07/USB2.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/Construction%20Update%208-5-07/USB1.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/Construction%20Update%208-5-07/USB4.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/Construction%20Update%208-5-07/DSC_0016.jpg
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb297/snfenoc/Construction%20Update%208-5-07/USB5.jpg

kenratboy
Aug 12, 2007, 11:47 PM
Nice!!!

Looking great. I will be passing thru Sacramento tomorrow on my way to Carmel, hope I can sneak a peek at the new building!

innov8
Aug 17, 2007, 5:06 PM
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4414/621cm120070807fns1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/2812/621cm320070803fks7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/6514/621cm420070803fup8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3367/621cm520070803fuz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8393/621cm620070803fyk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1414/621cm720070807fiq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4989/621cm820070807fob6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/4562/621cm220070803fmn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

colemonkee
Aug 17, 2007, 6:17 PM
Great shots! The metal spandrels running up the side of the tower really help to integrate the sand colored section with the rest of the tower (glass and metal), which otherwise stands out as a flaw in the design to me. Hopefully they install them throughout that sand colored area, instead of the two "columns" closest to the Capitol Mall side that they have now. I think it would help unify a design that kind of looks "slapped together" at this point.

I can't wait to see the lighting on the crown.

Pistola916
Aug 17, 2007, 10:17 PM
I really like the fourth to last shot from Natomas, as well as, the pano. Hopefully, the gaps can be filled. BTW 621 looks great, at least from the south side.

ozone
Aug 17, 2007, 10:57 PM
OK am I the only one who is completely underwhemed by this tower (so far)? I think it's chunky looking, the parking garage is hideous, the top looks like a giant billboard. Right now it up there with Darth and Cal EPA as the worst highrises in Sacramento. Maybe it'll get better but ..I mean ugh.

innov8
Aug 17, 2007, 11:14 PM
Welcome back ozone... for the third time.

I agree, but I would not call it hideous. From a few strategic angles is looks
nice, but I'm not a fan yet. The garage and boring back side makes me think
it was designed to be seen from the southern direction only. The lit up crown
might be its saving grace.

Thank you colemonkee and Pistola916 :D

ozone
Aug 18, 2007, 12:23 AM
Thanks ..but I really didn't go away I was just very busy with work. (I'm like the crazy girlfriend who storms off calling you every name in the book and vowing never to return but ends up back at your door in a half-hour).

Anyway I agree that the 'nice' side is on the south (facing Crapitol Mall -to borrow steve's lingo) and I too am hoping a lit crown will help but even so that will only be at night. I'm really very disappointed with this building. It was touted by the developer (who I have a good deal of respect for) as something of new landmark. So many years and so many pro-mises and this is what we end up with? What a wasted opportunity. I can only hope that some day soon the Aura or some other tower will be built next to this thing to help cover up the major flaws in the design but that still won't help fix the garage.

uzi963
Aug 20, 2007, 6:22 AM
couple of shots from 621 i took this evening.

they have the glass up on the sides of the crown.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/Photo0128.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/Photo0123.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/Photo0122.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/uzi963/Photo0120.jpg

arod74
Aug 21, 2007, 6:08 AM
Nice pics uzi, won't be long before this puppy is completely clad in glass. The building is looking pretty sweet from the front but as others have said, the precast concrete sides just don't seem to tie in very well with the glass front and back. And the crown seems to awkwardly jut out of the top without much of a transition from the flat roof. I hope the building grows on me when its done..

enigma99a
Aug 21, 2007, 8:45 AM
I think the building looks like garbage and it is lacking innovation. Maybe I'm just tired of southern facing crowns.

snfenoc
Aug 21, 2007, 4:51 PM
I have to agree, I am not impressed by this building. It's chunky, stubby and sterile. Although, I'm not surprised by its underwhelming presence. When the redesign was announced a couple of years ago (or more), I figured the building would not be the landmark Taylor had originally promised. However, I was hopeful Aura would be Lot A's saving grace. Unfortunately, it looks like Aura will just be another parking lot. Oh, well. Could be worse, maybe.


By the way, Ozone, don't you dare be messin' with my Vader ;). But yes, Cal EPA sucks.

friedpez
Aug 22, 2007, 2:15 AM
I also agree that the building isn't anything special and that its crown looks more like a billboard. But I also think that it would have looked better with Aura next to it, as the two buildings would have complemented one another in a "conversational" style with their roofs pointing in opposite directions. Without Aura, it looks too stubby and its crown doesn't really make sense.

TWAK
Aug 22, 2007, 8:40 AM
well beggars can't be choosers, so I like it!
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8012/082107132400ark8.jpg

colemonkee
Aug 22, 2007, 4:59 PM
I'm like the crazy girlfriend who storms off calling you every name in the book and vowing never to return but ends up back at your door in a half-hour.
:haha: :haha: :haha: Well said. Well said.

If the sides of this building were the same metal as the spandrels, this tower would look much more cohesive and modern, despite its stumpiness. The pre-cast concrete was obviously a cost saving measure, as I'm sure it's significantly cheaper than aluminum. It's just unfortunate that the cost saving measure results in a relative eyesore that will likely be there for 75 years or more.

This tower will end up being like the girl from the Seinfeld episode that looked good in some light, but almost scary it different light.

snatester
Aug 24, 2007, 7:26 PM
FYI - The tower crane will start coming down this weekend.

Web
Aug 24, 2007, 8:37 PM
ahhh so that explains all the work happening at 6 pm yesterday....the crane usually is not working that late!!!

innov8
Aug 28, 2007, 5:26 PM
These were taken last Friday before the tower crane started to come down.

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7843/621cm120070824fir4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9643/621cm220070824fpy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7991/621cm320070824flb4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/3921/621cm420070824fpq1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2093/621cm520070824fsj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2596/621cm620070824fje5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3076/621cm720070824fqi2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8776/621cm820070824fzb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8083/621cm920070824fna3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6018/621cm1020070824fow5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9260/calstrs820070824fbi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/365/621cm1120070824fdp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/877/621cm1220070824fdt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6121/621cm1320070824fog4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

downtownserg89
Sep 3, 2007, 3:32 AM
when should we expect to see the crown light up? that's all i've been waiting to see for this past year or so. it's killing me! i have a feeling it will reeeeeally liven up the skyline.

jsf8278
Sep 4, 2007, 10:51 PM
Let me start off by saying that I think those of you who are talking about how bad this building looks are overreacting. That said my initial thoughts after driving past US Bank on L street this past weekend

1.) That is one hell of a parking lot...surely they could have figured out a better way to park cars. Oh well, at least it matches the side of the building.

2.) Its interesting to me that the parking lot buts up against L street and none of it can be seen from Capitol Mall. That area of L street is not really the best part of town...maybe they didn't care what the parking lot looked like b/c that area of town is crappy anyway, and you cant really see it from the front of the building.

3.) The crown will definitely look cool at night...I doubt they can mess that up too badly.

4.) The Aura lot next to US Bank...those blocks of cement sure look like the beginnings of light polls, which we all know are used in parking lots!

Ryan@CU
Sep 4, 2007, 11:45 PM
3.) The crown will definitely look cool at night...I doubt they can mess that up too badly.

Will it be lit up?

innov8
Sep 21, 2007, 5:34 AM
Yup, at the top where the angle jets up from the roof and only on the southern side.
downtownserg89, buddy... it's going to be lit-up in the spring of 08'... unless
you catch them testing the lights in Jan. thru March ;)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2931/capitolmall20070908jpg2gv1.jpg (http://imagesphack.us)

innov8
Sep 24, 2007, 5:10 AM
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/8888/skyline220070908jpg2007uc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6016/621cm220070908jpg200709ic1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6117/sacskyline20070908jpg20kq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8278/621cm20070908jpg2007091qy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9931/skyline320070908jpg2007yz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

innov8
Sep 30, 2007, 2:32 AM
Just waiting for the crown.

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6181/621cm120070908jpg200709en3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4347/621cm220070908jpg200709io4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1926/621cm320070908jpg200709je4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/549/621cm420070908jpg200709xz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9232/621cm520070908jpg200709io5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

ltsmotorsport
Sep 30, 2007, 3:19 AM
That first shot is absolutely outstanding, Mike. :yes:

innov8
Sep 30, 2007, 3:22 AM
Thanks Mike :) I have some good ones of CalSTRS, they should be up in a day or so.

innov8
Oct 9, 2007, 4:01 AM
CBS 13 did a little piece on Sactown's 621 scoop today. I now think the top will be impressive.

http://tinyurl.com/28kl95

WonderlandPark
Oct 9, 2007, 4:13 AM
Sweet, the Ohare artist, I suspect it will be very well done, can't wait to see them light it up.

innov8
Nov 10, 2007, 4:51 AM
The crown is looking better.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/6778/621cm20071108fpe4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

kenratboy
Nov 10, 2007, 5:57 AM
Nice looking building.

Jasonhouse
Nov 10, 2007, 6:16 AM
The ambiguous crown certainly held more promise in the rendering, but personally, I love the juxtaposition of materials and textures of the building. And when it's lit up, I suspect that skeptics will largely be silenced.

innov8
Nov 19, 2007, 9:04 PM
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/937/49621cmtop120071115fpa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6829/621cmtop220071115ffl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2313/621cm520071115ffn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4100/621cm620071115fra6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2441/621cm720071115fcq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

urban_encounter
Nov 20, 2007, 1:55 AM
I'm not a big fan of this building, but i think the crown will be a stunning sight on the evening skyline..

sactown_2007
Nov 24, 2007, 1:08 AM
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1412/usbanktower1ke7.jpg
By pbryant (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pbryant), shot with Canon PowerShot A540 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+PowerShot+A540&make=Canon) at 2007-11-23

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2240/usbanktower3pp1.jpg
By pbryant (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pbryant), shot with Canon PowerShot A540 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+PowerShot+A540&make=Canon) at 2007-11-23

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/9172/usbanktower5jc5.jpg
By pbryant (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/pbryant), shot with Canon PowerShot A540 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=Canon+PowerShot+A540&make=Canon) at 2007-11-23

I went downtown today to do a little shopping so I took several of my own pics while I was down there. Not much more to add to what is already on here however as for the most part, a lot of the outside is complete.

As I look at this building at street level in person, the front looks really good -- especially in the afternoon when the sun is hitting it. Looking at it from the angle and from the side it still looks good and even the back does not look too bad either.

However the one part of the building that currently does not look all that well is the back side of the crown. Viewing it from I-80 over by Frys and coming into downtown on I-5 from the airport, it looks like it is still under construction. Does anyone know if they are going to do something else to the back side of the crown?

But in any event, this building looks good in person!! :)

ltsmotorsport
Nov 24, 2007, 2:36 AM
*For title of the thread*

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2248/2058796852_f221999edd_o.jpg


25 stories

400ft

innov8
Dec 6, 2007, 4:49 PM
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8417/621cm120071205fsd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Looking down Capitol Mall.

TheDerek
Jan 2, 2008, 9:42 AM
A birds eye view, thanks to google maps ;)

also for those missing seeing a crane towering over downtown

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=95814&ie=UTF8&ll=38.578805,-121.49885&spn=0.000638,0.001463&t=h&z=20&iwloc=addr&om=1

innov8
Jan 3, 2008, 6:48 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1698/621top20071221fwf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9269/621cm320071231fdu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2144/621cm520071231fbe6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6264/621cmcapitolmall2007122zz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

innov8
Jan 3, 2008, 6:53 PM
Double post :rolleyes:

xde18
Jan 3, 2008, 10:30 PM
http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/6849843.jpg

One of my personal favorites in sacramento

Dougall5505
Jan 4, 2008, 2:26 AM
when is the crown going to be lit?

urban_encounter
Jan 4, 2008, 4:40 AM
:previous:


Hopefully soon, because this tower doesn't look very good in the daylight.

friedpez
Jan 4, 2008, 7:44 PM
Oddly enough, it kinda matches 555 CM. Maybe 621 could change its glass color to smoky gray or 555 could change to blue :yuck:

SacTownAndy
Jan 4, 2008, 8:19 PM
:previous:


Hopefully soon, because this tower doesn't look very good in the daylight.

Just out of curiosity- it sounds like there are a number of people who don't think this tower turned out as good as the renderings. For those of us who haven't seen it in person yet, what don't you like about it and how could it have been better?

Complex01
Jan 4, 2008, 10:39 PM
Nice pics, very kewl...

:yes:

urban_encounter
Jan 5, 2008, 3:25 AM
Just out of curiosity- it sounds like there are a number of people who don't think this tower turned out as good as the renderings. For those of us who haven't seen it in person yet, what don't you like about it and how could it have been better?

The garage is an ugly bunker, the only facade that looks decent is the southside of the tower facing Capitol Mall. It's a shame they didn't wrap the entire buiding in the glass they used for the front and back of the building.
As a whole though, the tower looks stuby (because it is) and the crown looks like a piece of scrap metal

(That's why) I'm hoping it looks better at night, once it's illuminated.
I love the Ziggurat at night (when they illuminate it), but i think it's ugly in the daylight.

The funny thing is this tower looked better in the renderings that it does now that it's finished and the opposite is true for CalSTRS. The renderings just didn't do it justice. (Although it's not complete yet, it is really looking sharp).

jsf8278
Jan 5, 2008, 5:34 PM
I wonder how long they will illuminate the crown? Does anyone have an idea of how expensive it is to light up? I hope they dont illuminate it for a while and then stop...like what happened with Zaggurat.

urban_encounter
Jan 7, 2008, 5:26 AM
I hope they dont illuminate it for a while and then stop...like what happened with Zaggurat.

Like the Ziggurat
Like Cal EPA
and like the Federal Courthouse

ltsmotorsport
Jan 17, 2008, 8:05 PM
innov8; since you got to go to the top recently, were you able to ask anyone if the the crown was going to be closed up a little more, or is it going to remain open like it appears now (see-through)?

innov8
Jan 18, 2008, 1:06 AM
The crown will be closed on the north side... I'll post some pics soon when I have time to post them.

ltsmotorsport
Jan 18, 2008, 4:02 AM
Cool. Just glad to hear that it will have a more solid appearance than it does now.

chex
Jan 18, 2008, 5:14 PM
i like the crown, and the front, but i think the side just doesnt match with the rest of the building...
nice pics...

innov8
Jan 22, 2008, 9:08 PM
innov8; since you got to go to the top recently, were you able to ask anyone if the the crown was going to be closed up a little more, or is it going to remain open like it appears now (see-through)?


Ya know... I'm not 100% sure. In the renderings the nothern side of the
crown is closed up. What do you think after looking at some of these photos?


http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/733/621cmtop120080111fli2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9829/621cmtop220080111ftu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7827/621cmtop320080111fdg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3968/621cmtop420080111fqp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9937/621cmtop520080111frp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2189/621cmtop620080111fds6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1562/621cmtop720080111fud7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/848/621cmtop820080111fit6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9279/621cmtop920080111ftv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6339/621cmtop1020080111flx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/4782/621cmtop1120080111fwa2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7387/621cmtop1320080111fbz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2903/5621cmtower20070308fzs0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Taken back in July 2007.

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7774/621cmtop1420080111fgv6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Taken January 2008.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1458/621cmtop1520080111fjc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7386/621cmtop1620080111fji9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/652/621cmtop1720080111fjg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7569/621cmtop1820080111fdn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9990/621cmtop1920080111fdt1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9230/621cmtop2020080111fle7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8151/621cmtop2120080111fsk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2756/621cmtop2220080111fnu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

northbay
Jan 22, 2008, 10:45 PM
nice pictures as always. just about done :)

i think the crown looks better enclosed, thats what im goin for

btw, the grass on capitol mall looks like shit. the guv needs to get on that ;)

friedpez
Jan 22, 2008, 11:35 PM
Amazing pics! Thanks!

reggiesquared
Jan 22, 2008, 11:38 PM
nice pictures as always. just about done :)

i think the crown looks better enclosed, thats what im goin for

btw, the grass on capitol mall looks like shit. the guv needs to get on that ;)


My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't really call it grass at this point. :yuck:

goldcntry
Jan 23, 2008, 4:13 PM
OMG:worship:

Come on Innov8! I'm just a couple blocks over from ya! Next time you go up 621, I'll be your pack mule! Awesome as always.

:tomato: :tomato: :tomato:

peanut gallery
Jan 23, 2008, 4:30 PM
Great shots! The lobby looks fantastic.

Perhaps this material, which I assume is on the roof, will be used in closing up the crown:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9279/621cmtop920080111ftv7.jpg

sugit
Jan 23, 2008, 5:52 PM
i think the crown looks better enclosed, thats what im goin for

I totally agree with you. If you come up on the building from the North, it looks like it will be never be completed.

This may not be the best example, but I wish the crown was enclosed like this instead of just one side.

http://www.sdpta.com/members/images/grandhyatt.jpg

plinko
Jan 23, 2008, 6:29 PM
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/848/621cmtop820080111fit6.jpg

Looking at this photo, I seriously doubt that the north side of the crown will get closed up. Those horizontal fins aren't likely to carry any sort of cladding on the outside (no visible clips either for such a thing) and it would be incredibly expensive to infill the fins with glazing or other panelling.

I'm not a huge fan of this building (though I actually like the crown and the lobby)...but it's not bad.

Value engineering at its finest...could have had this:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v202/plinko923/Random/sac033.jpg

ltsmotorsport
Jan 23, 2008, 8:10 PM
Yeah, it's hard to tell how it will end up, but it would obviously look better closed up, at the least on the north side.


The lobby does look nice, and the effect on the Aura rendering is priceless. :D
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3968/621cmtop420080111fqp5.jpg

urban_encounter
Jan 24, 2008, 5:35 AM
btw, the grass on capitol mall looks like shit. the guv needs to get on that ;)


The city now controls Capitol Mall (the state relinquished control); which would explain why the grass looks like shi^..

Part of the Mayor's Capitol Mall beautification project no doubt.

northbay
Jan 24, 2008, 4:17 PM
The city now controls Capitol Mall (the state relinquished control); which would explain why the grass looks like shi^..

Part of the Mayor's Capitol Mall beautification project no doubt.

haha, so that explains it! :rolleyes:

innov8
Jan 24, 2008, 8:19 PM
Good eye ltsmotorsport http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n231/jammer_this/smilies/638.gif

That grass in the strip is a seasonal grass and appears to die off in the
winter, it will grow back when the weathers nice again. I have some of this
seasonal grass in one part of my yard too.

arod74
Jan 28, 2008, 6:13 AM
As usual great photos innov8. I especially like the ones of the lobby with the picture of Liebskind's head peaking through the window. Ah the irony...

urban_encounter
Jan 28, 2008, 6:20 AM
I wouldn't get your hopes up for anything spectacular to change with the crown (with the exception of the night illumination.)

I think what we see is what we we're going to get, judging from the renderings.


http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7356/62142wn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4882/62123aa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

sactown_2007
Jan 29, 2008, 4:59 AM
nice pictures as always. just about done :)

i think the crown looks better enclosed, thats what im goin for

btw, the grass on capitol mall looks like shit. the guv needs to get on that ;)

Yes I agree -- looking at the building from I-80 over by Frys, the way the crown looks now, the building does look "incomplete". It would look a lot better if it was enclosed.

Also I noticed the grass too late in the fall; the dead part is known as Bermuda Grass -- which goes dormant in the fall and comes back in the spring. The best thing they could do is just kill all of the grass on the mall and either reseed it all with one type or just resod it. But I am sure the city would not spend the money to do so if it is under their control now.

innov8
Feb 3, 2008, 6:56 AM
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4135/capitolmall20080131fvl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

innov8
Mar 3, 2008, 4:00 AM
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2057/621cm120080229fpu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/5319/621cm220080302fjs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6350/621cm320080301fdy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Ryan@CU
Mar 3, 2008, 11:22 PM
Great shots!!

Surefiresacto
Mar 4, 2008, 12:37 AM
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2057/621cm120080229fpu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

My favorite pic yet. Awesome!!!:tup:

sactown_2007
Mar 8, 2008, 9:08 PM
Here is an update I found on the SacBee site about the light display on the crown.........


He lights way on public art
Artist, developer join forces on an innovative project for the capitalBy Jon Ortiz - jortiz@sacbee.com
Published 12:00 am PST Sunday, February 10, 2008

Michael Hayden looks to the sky and sees art. Soon, you will too. Sacramento's new U.S. Bank Tower at 621 Capitol Mall is the multimedia artist's latest canvas. The top and the atrium of the steel-and-glass 25-story office tower will soon feature a massive, two-part art display inspired by the city's nearby rivers.

The latest technology using light-emitting diodes will be employed on the building, easily visible from Interstate 5 or Highway 50, to bathe its crown with a water-inspired video. If all goes as the artist has planned, you should be able to look up from a downtown street some night in June and see what appears to be a flowing river streaming across the top of the $130 million building.

The tower's atrium will continue the theme with a series of mirrored LED panels, all hard-wired into the building and controlled by specially designed software.

Art and architecture officials believe the work in and on top of U.S. Bank Tower will set the standard for public art in Sacramento for years to come.

The displays put Sacramento firmly in the middle of a trend that combines art, architecture and technology on an immense scale. From Chicago's
renowned Crown Fountain, featuring LED-projected images of local residents talking, to the 10-story video wall on Tokyo's Chanel Ginza Tower, developers and designers are turning enormous structures into complicated works of animated art.

But the sheer size is daunting. Despite Hayden's considerable résumé as a high-tech artist, he freely admits that his Sacramento project has an element of uncertainty. Small-scale models and renderings can only approximate what the final product will look like.

To meet the challenge, the building's Sacramento developer, David Taylor, gathered two dozen consultants, engineers, architects and electricians. The team includes Dallas-based Lighting Science Group Corp., whose Rancho Cordova unit built the ball that dropped for the 2008 New Year's Eve celebration in Times Square.

Lighting Science's experience mitigates the risk, but Ellen Warner, who oversees the building's design and construction for David Taylor Interests, admits she has been nervous about what will happen when the project goes online in late May or early June.

"On more than one occasion, I've pulled the team together and asked, 'Are you sure it's going to work?' " she said.

And if it doesn't?

"You don't think about that," Warner said. "It would be too horrible." Public policy and private business interests prompt developers to include public artwork in their projects. The city of Sacramento in 1979 began requiring builders to set aside 2 percent of their construction budgets for public art. Sacramento County passed a similar ordinance in 1983, although the guidelines leave room for negotiation.

City and county projects in the last 30 years have added 600 public art pieces, according to the Sacramento Metropolitan Arts Commission. Developers spend between $3 million and $6 million each year on public art, said Shelly Willis, the commission's Art in Public Places administrator. The
commission reviews and approves details of all public art projects, including the artist and design.

But beyond the government requirements, many builders see public art as an amenity that helps sell the building to potential tenants. Taylor Interests executive Warner wouldn't say exactly how much Taylor has put into U.S. Bank Tower's art but confirmed it runs into "the hundreds of thousands of dollars."

The company considered nearly a dozen artists before settling on Hayden, a Santa Rosa resident.

Hayden ranks among a handful of artists worldwide who use light and large spaces as others use paint and canvas. With more than 100 major works in his 40-year career, Hayden, 65, has pieces in Chicago's O'Hare Airport, the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, Toronto's Yorkdale subway station and
the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C.

His two-part concept for U.S. Bank Tower ties the building to the nearby American and Sacramento rivers.

The first, "Lumetric River," will cover the building's south-facing louvered top with an LED video projection of rushing river water that will be visible at night from miles away.

To produce the video, Hayden shot hours of river footage and then manipulated the images to give them an abstract quality when cast on the building's five-story, 150-foot-wide crest. Technicians at Lighting Science's Rancho Cordova branch designed the lighting.

"The idea," Hayden said, "is to create a metaphoric river flowing across the top of the building."

The running water theme speeds up with "Rapids," an array of about 200 mirrors and lighted panels hanging down five floors and spanning 84 feet in the tower's seven-story atrium.

Each 2-foot by 2-foot panel resembles a smooth white piece of gum on one side – Hayden calls them "Chiclets" – that contains an LED video projector developed by Lighting Science. The other side is a holographic two-way acrylic mirror.

Hayden will hang the panels from an aluminum structure running across the atrium's expanse, and the south-facing mirrored side of each panel will cast rainbows by reflecting sunlight pouring through the building's clear-glass exterior.

The LED sides of the piece will carry more water video, giving the viewers the sense they are looking at frothing river rapids tumbling down from the seven-story ceiling.

Willis, the public art administrator, said the U.S. Bank Tower will raise the public art standard for other local projects, including the airport's expansion and the downtown railyard.

"They're the pioneers here," Willis said. "If this works, it helps everyone – developers, design professionals, artists, engineers. It can be used as a model for future projects. It makes it easier to encourage artists and builders to take some risks."

Despite the best intentions, sometimes complicated public art projects don't quite deliver.

In 2001, Internet giant Yahoo installed a $100,000 piece on its Sunnyvale campus that mimicked nearby wetlands with a combination of low-growing grass and white wires topped with reflective squares.

The project went awry when the grass grew much higher than expected. Two years ago, the city of Sunnyvale told Yahoo to tend to its overgrown lawn. Yahoo's grounds crew cut the grass down but damaged the white wires. Yahoo eventually replanted the area with lawn grass but left the bent
wires in place.

"They turned my art into a bad miniature golf course," artist Sharon Louden complained to the Wall Street Journal last year.

The logistical challenges of Hayden's piece have been so great that "there have been many days when I have slumped in my chair and privately wished we had commissioned a wall painting,"

Warner said. "Fortunately, those moments did pass."

Aligning Hayden's vision with the building's architecture, electrical and data systems is an overwhelming undertaking, she said. How will the pieces be installed? How will they be maintained for decades to come? At one point,
the city fire marshal pointed out that the atrium panels would interfere with the building's fire sprinkler system. Hayden changed the panels' angle.
The tower's first tenant, U.S. Bank, opens its office April 25. A team led by Lighting Science will install the piece in late May or early June.
Hayden, meanwhile, is starting to move on. He's working on a bid for the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver, Canada. He says he needs clients who think as big as his projects.

"I need people who have as much nerve as I do," he said.