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nname
Oct 25, 2016, 8:40 AM
Seems like reservation for YVR-TPE would be open within the next few hours...

Special introductory fares on our new flights to Taipei. Book now. (http://www.aircanada.com/en/offers/air/taipei/taipei.html?icid=fl|achome|taipei|caen|161025|txt)

First flight June 7th instead of 8th?

Johnny Aussie
Oct 25, 2016, 9:07 AM
Seems like reservation for YVR-TPE would be open within the next few hours...

[First flight June 7th instead of 8th?

Yes, and now we have flight numbers!

AC11 YVR 1115 - 1420+1 TPE 789 D
AC12 TPE 1600 - 1130 YVR 789 D

connect2source
Oct 25, 2016, 12:26 PM
BA286 SFO-LHR has diverted to YVR.

Approx 2 hours into the flight over South western Saskatchewan, the flight turned WNW then WSW and landed in YVR about 15 mins ago.

It looked like it was going to head for YYC but turned WSW then headed straight for YVR.

If I learn anything more I'll post it.

Looks like it just parked at D64. A medical emergency.

"Twenty-five passengers and crew members were taken to hospital suffering from smoke inhalation, Laura Kohli, a spokeswoman for Vancouver Coastal Health hospitals, told CBC News."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/emergency-landing-vancouver-1.3820082

Any ideas what caused the smoke?

Here's the flight path showing diversion.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-xleb#b697f10

trofirhen
Oct 25, 2016, 2:54 PM
Yes, and now we have flight numbers!

AC11 YVR 1115 - 1420+1 TPE 789 D
AC12 TPE 1600 - 1130 YVR 789 D


What aircraft will they use? Thanx:)

red-paladin
Oct 25, 2016, 4:33 PM
"Twenty-five passengers and crew members were taken to hospital suffering from smoke inhalation, Laura Kohli, a spokeswoman for Vancouver Coastal Health hospitals, told CBC News."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/emergency-landing-vancouver-1.3820082

Any ideas what caused the smoke?

Here's the flight path showing diversion.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-xleb#b697f10

Why do you guys think they diverted all the way to Vancouver instead of Calgary?

dothediu
Oct 25, 2016, 4:50 PM
Why do you guys think they diverted all the way to Vancouver instead of Calgary?

They mentioned on the news that Calgary could not handle the A380.

twoNeurons
Oct 25, 2016, 7:14 PM
"Twenty-five passengers and crew members were taken to hospital suffering from smoke inhalation, Laura Kohli, a spokeswoman for Vancouver Coastal Health hospitals, told CBC News."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/emergency-landing-vancouver-1.3820082

Any ideas what caused the smoke?

Here's the flight path showing diversion.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/g-xleb#b697f10

If I were to take a wild guess... I'd say a Samsung Galaxy 7 Edge or a Samsung Galaxy Note 7. Both those phones now are having issues. The Note is banned, but I'm sure people are still sneaking them on. The regular Galaxy 7 Edge has been having similar incidents though there's no recall in place for those (yet).

excel
Oct 25, 2016, 8:14 PM
Seems they have ruled out smoke inhalation.

http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/british-airways-flight-makes-emergency-landing-in-vancouver-with-ill-crew

connect2source
Oct 25, 2016, 8:59 PM
They mentioned on the news that Calgary could not handle the A380.

That seems ridiculous now that Calgary has a new 14,000 ft. runway and a brand new international terminal. I'd would think that in an emergency they'd land at the closest airport possible.

vanman
Oct 25, 2016, 11:26 PM
Sunset over YVR taken yesterday.

http://i.imgur.com/Nx5pAWe.jpg?2

trofirhen
Oct 25, 2016, 11:50 PM
On the most recent Air Canada Interactive route map, some Canadian airport codes have changed.
Toronto (YYZ) is listed as YTO, Montreal (YUL) is listed as YMQ.
Is this just a pet project of Air Canada, or will these airport codes become official everywhere?
They make more sense, but YYZ, for example, had a certain "snazz" to it that the 'new' one, though more precise, does not.

excel
Oct 25, 2016, 11:58 PM
YTO is all Toronto area airports.
Toronto/Buttonville Municipal Airport
Billy Bishop Toronto City Airport
Toronto Pearson International Airport
Region of Waterloo International Airport

YMQ is all Montreal area airports.
Dorval
Pierre Elliot Trudeau

Orcair
Oct 25, 2016, 11:59 PM
On the most recent Air Canada Interactive route map, some Canadian airport codes have changed.
Toronto (YYZ) is listed as YTO, Montreal (YUL) is listed as YMQ.
Is this just a pet project of Air Canada, or will these airport codes become official everywhere?
They make more sense, but YYZ, for example, had a certain "snazz" to it that the 'new' one, though more precise, does not.

Probably to emphasize that their 'new' website can finally search for multiple airports in a given city. Shockingly high-tech, I know ;)

Klazu
Oct 26, 2016, 12:28 AM
Great shot, vanman! :tup:

nname
Oct 26, 2016, 12:40 AM
Alot of cities have these codes, which can be useful when searching for a ticket and you don't care which airport you end up with. What I can remember:

TYO = Tokyo HND/NRT
BJS = Beijing PEK/NAY
SEL = Seoul ICN/GMP
LON = London LHR/LGW/STN/LCY/.....
PAR = Paris CDG/ORY/...
CHI = Chicago ORD/MDW/...
WAS = Washington IAD/DCA/BWI
NYC = New York JFK/EWR/LGA
YEA = Edmonton YEG... I don't know why this exists since there's only one airport in the metro area now :D

Waders
Oct 26, 2016, 3:01 AM
Why do you guys think they diverted all the way to Vancouver instead of Calgary?

CBC report (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/5-unanswered-questions-british-airways-1.3821059) mentioned the following

4. Why didn't the plane land in Calgary?

The passengers were initially told they'd land in Calgary, but actually touched down over the Rockies in Vancouver.

Some speculated that the size of the A380 — the largest commercial passenger jet in the world — meant it couldn't land at Calgary International, but the airport said it is "designed for and capable of accommodating A380 aircraft."

It's possible, said Williams, that burning more fuel en route to Vancouver made the landing easier.

"This airplane is too big and too heavy to land right down underneath us … but by the time we get to Vancouver … we'll be down to landing weight and that's a good move to make," said Williams.

The airline hasn't commented on why the plane landed in Vancouver.

POCO
Oct 26, 2016, 3:34 AM
It would probably be alot easier/cheaper to rebook passengers out of YVR than calgary.

giallo
Oct 26, 2016, 3:37 AM
Sunset over YVR taken yesterday.

http://i.imgur.com/Nx5pAWe.jpg?2

Wow!

Hot Rod
Oct 26, 2016, 5:09 AM
Vancouver has two area airports two, YVR International and YXX Abbotsford.

There may not be a regional code yet, but if YXX continues to grow I'd expect one to be created.

casper
Oct 26, 2016, 6:00 AM
Vancouver has two area airports two, YVR International and YXX Abbotsford.

There may not be a regional code yet, but if YXX continues to grow I'd expect one to be created.

Vancouver also have IATA code CXH or ICAO code CYHC. These correspond to the downtown harbour port. Basically where Harbour Air docks.

Less used there is also YDT that has limited air service with Island Express.

Hot Rod
Oct 26, 2016, 6:49 AM
CBC report (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/5-unanswered-questions-british-airways-1.3821059) mentioned the following

more info http://abcnews.go.com/US/british-airways-flight-san-francisco-diverted-vancouver-crew/story?id=43042541

moosejaw
Oct 26, 2016, 1:56 PM
The comments at bottom of article are hilarious
The galaxy Note 7 one made me crack up

https://www.rt.com/news/364021-british-airways-emergency-canada/

vanman
Oct 26, 2016, 3:28 PM
Great shot, vanman! :tup:

Wow!

Thanks guys! It's not often you see the sunset in the pouring rain. I was blown away on Monday evening.

lubicon
Oct 26, 2016, 6:18 PM
That seems ridiculous now that Calgary has a new 14,000 ft. runway and a brand new international terminal. I'd would think that in an emergency they'd land at the closest airport possible.

Weather was very poor in both Calgary and Edmonton that night (fog) which likely factored into the decision.

Gordon
Oct 26, 2016, 6:30 PM
I don't thine the new terminal is open yet. I'm pretty sure they don't have any A380 gates

twoNeurons
Oct 26, 2016, 8:51 PM
Alot of cities have these codes, which can be useful when searching for a ticket and you don't care which airport you end up with. What I can remember:

TYO = Tokyo HND/NRT
BJS = Beijing PEK/NAY
SEL = Seoul ICN/GMP
LON = London LHR/LGW/STN/LCY/.....
PAR = Paris CDG/ORY/...
CHI = Chicago ORD/MDW/...
WAS = Washington IAD/DCA/BWI
NYC = New York JFK/EWR/LGA
YEA = Edmonton YEG... I don't know why this exists since there's only one airport in the metro area now :D

Vancouver needs to reserve one of these slots for the day when YXX, YVR, YYJ, and YDT are all part of the Metro Airport conglomeration.

I vote for YVX (Vancouver + eXurbs ) or YVY ( Vancouver-y Area ).
:runaway: :yes::yes::yes:

trofirhen
Oct 26, 2016, 10:55 PM
Wonderful that Air Canada is starting up Taiwan in the near future.
A question: when / if will there be YVR - Melbourne direct flights? Johnny?

Klazu
Oct 27, 2016, 12:07 AM
Just checked streetview. They've been bilingual since atleast August 2015.

Yeah, they have been bi-lingual but they have recently integrated new outlet signs on most of the overhead road signs. It looked to me like they would have renewed all the signs with the same go. Take a look next time you drive to YVR and it is possible that I am just imagining.

Going to drive to YVR tonight to pick up my wife. She added some third tier US cities to the YVR stats with her trip to Mobile, AL and Pensacola, FL. Will be a while before we will see a direct flight to those two. :D

Klazu
Oct 27, 2016, 1:24 AM
Yeah, they have been bi-lingual but they have recently integrated new outlet signs on most of the overhead road signs. It looked to me like they would have renewed all the signs with the same go. Take a look next time you drive to YVR and it is possible that I am just imagining.

Well, that was easy to confirm from Street View using their timeshif function. Indeed all overhead signs have been renewed in the last year. I was sure I am not imagining things, and just haven't driven to the airport in a while to notice when exactly they changed them.

Mystery solved and the new signs look much more modern. :)

LeftCoaster
Oct 27, 2016, 4:00 PM
I would definitely think it's LAX > SFO > YVR....

Lefty's chart supports SFO>YVR.

Ask him nicely and he may just have a crack at LAX!

I've been working on it for a while, it's an absolute beast. Makes SFO and YYZ seem like ants.

What aircraft will they use? Thanx:)

It's right there in the announcement 787-900.

It would probably be alot easier/cheaper to rebook passengers out of YVR than calgary.

This is the likely answer, lots more capacity out of YVR to book passengers on.

YYC is technically capable of handling an A380 but YVR is of course much more capable since their terminal has been handling one for several months now.

Gordon
Oct 27, 2016, 4:38 PM
I was looking at YYC on Google maps the new terminal does not seem to include double headed bridges nor does the current terminal.

SpongeG
Oct 27, 2016, 7:18 PM
That seems ridiculous now that Calgary has a new 14,000 ft. runway and a brand new international terminal. I'd would think that in an emergency they'd land at the closest airport possible.

the news story i read yesterday said with a plane that big they chose vancouver so they could burn off more fuel, they would want to land with less fuel hence go a little further

casper
Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM
I was looking at YYC on Google maps the new terminal does not seem to include double headed bridges nor does the current terminal.

There are stairs within the aircraft that are used to get to the upper deck when only using one bridge Same thing on the 747.

Gordon
Oct 27, 2016, 8:26 PM
YvR has double headed bridges side by side not stacked. YYc has neither. as far as I can see

red-paladin
Oct 27, 2016, 8:37 PM
Anyone who hasn't ready the prospective 2037 YVR plan and filled out the feedback form may want to: http://www.yvr2037.ca/participate

sunsetmountainland
Oct 27, 2016, 10:06 PM
Vancouver International Airport named the Best Airport in the World

Canada’s second largest airport has won yet another accolade, this time landing the title of 2016’s ‘Best Airport in the World’.

Vancouver International Airport (YVR) was awarded the title by the CAPA Centre (CPAC) for Aviation in a ceremony held in Amsterdam earlier today.

“This is an incredible achievement and is a testament to YVR’s success and our growing influence on the world stage,” said Craig Richmond, YVR’s President and CEO. “We have achieved this milestone thanks to our focus on safety, teamwork, accountability and innovation—and our community based, not-for-profit governance model, under which we constantly improve the airport for our passengers, our partners and our communities.”

But unlike the annual Skytrax awards largely based on passenger comfort and airport design, which YVR has consecutively won, the CAPAC title is given to the airport that is the biggest standout strategically, has turned itself into a leader, and done the most to advance the progress of the global aviation industry.

http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/worlds-best-airport-vancouver-international-airport-yvr

twoNeurons
Oct 27, 2016, 10:24 PM
the news story i read yesterday said with a plane that big they chose vancouver so they could burn off more fuel, they would want to land with less fuel hence go a little further

That makes a lot of sense. It's considerably more dangerous to land with more fuel. It puts stress on the landing gear, runway, wings (fuel tanks in the wings), frame, etc. A plane is allowed to "land heavy" but oftentimes if it's overweight, it will require an extensive safety check on the landing gear before it can fly again.

More weight also means you need a longer safe length of a runway (more momentum).

Johnny Aussie
Oct 27, 2016, 10:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odAHH5AkqRE

Here is a recording of the live ATC between BA286 and ATC.

Pretty much confirms YVR was selected due to being more suitable for ground handling... A380 capable.

BA84 YVR-LHR also speaks to BA286 in this audio clip.

Hourglass
Oct 27, 2016, 11:16 PM
Vancouver International Airport named the Best Airport in the World



http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/worlds-best-airport-vancouver-international-airport-yvr

Link to CAPA awards here: http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/icelandair-iberia-qatar-wizz-airasias-fernandes-london-city-vancouver-abb-scoop-capa--305923

excel
Oct 28, 2016, 3:05 AM
Wow best airport in the world! :)

Hot Rod
Oct 28, 2016, 9:42 AM
don't know if this was posted, but this marks the end of an era!

Cathay Pacific bids fond farewell to Boeing 747 (http://www.traveldailymedia.com/newsletters/2016/TDA3Oct16.pdf)

The B747 helped drive Cathay's expansion to multiple new destinations during the 1980s, including London, Paris, Rome and Vancouver

sadness :wah:

ilikeredheads
Oct 28, 2016, 1:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odAHH5AkqRE

Here is a recording of the live ATC between BA286 and ATC.

Pretty much confirms YVR was selected due to being more suitable for ground handling... A380 capable.

BA84 YVR-LHR also speaks to BA286 in this audio clip.

so what exactly happened to the crew? Was it like in Foo Fighters' Learn to Fly video lol?

vanlaw
Oct 28, 2016, 1:51 PM
don't know if this was posted, but this marks the end of an era!

Cathay Pacific bids fond farewell to Boeing 747 (http://www.traveldailymedia.com/newsletters/2016/TDA3Oct16.pdf)


sadness :wah:

UPS and Boeing announced an order yesterday for 14 747-8F's. They stated that they new planes will be utilised for US-Europe and US-Asia cargo, but who knows, maybe they'll pop into YVR from time to time.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-10-27/ups-gives-lifeline-to-boeing-s-queen-of-the-skies-with-747-order

trofirhen
Oct 28, 2016, 3:44 PM
Does the end of the Boeing 747 including the 747-8i model ???
I thought it was going to be around a while.

Also, what's the capacity difference between the 747_8i and the 777-300?

Gordon
Oct 28, 2016, 4:32 PM
Lufthansa is continuing it's 744 service to YVR into next summer

rxp
Oct 28, 2016, 8:32 PM
Any idea on when the "few new announcements" could be made? Nov? before year end? next year? thought i read "soon"...

trofirhen
Oct 28, 2016, 8:36 PM
Any idea on when the announcement of a new airline at yvr could be made? Nov? before year end? next year? thought i read "soon"...
Ask Johnny. He would know if anyone would. Right, J.A.?;);)

excel
Oct 28, 2016, 10:47 PM
Does the end of the Boeing 747 including the 747-8i model ???
I thought it was going to be around a while.


Most definitely not. The 747-8s are brand new and will be around for a long time. Issue is that there are very few operators and due to poor orders production was slated to be halted after all current orders were completed. But with this UPS 787-8F order yesterday, it looks like production may continue! :cheers: This is great news as Airbus ceased offering an A380 freighter version last year due to poor orders. The 747-8F offers the largest available capacity out of new aircraft being produced and is hopefully going to see more orders to come. Ideally this will spark more interest in the passenger version :)

casper
Oct 29, 2016, 12:26 AM
Most definitely not. The 747-8s are brand new and will be around for a long time. Issue is that there are very few operators and due to poor orders production was slated to be halted after all current orders were completed. But with this UPS 787-8F order yesterday, it looks like production may continue! :cheers: This is great news as Airbus ceased offering an A380 freighter version last year due to poor orders. The 747-8F offers the largest available capacity out of new aircraft being produced and is hopefully going to see more orders to come. Ideally this will spark more interest in the passenger version :)

The theory behind the UPS order is UPS is seeing a shift in demand from high margin overnight to 2 day e-Commerce delivery (all that Amazon Prime stuff). That means it needs to adjust to higher cargo volumes, less frequent trips and at a lower price point. More optimized mix of air/ground. That means bigger aircraft.

POCO
Oct 29, 2016, 3:31 AM
The theory behind the UPS order is UPS is seeing a shift in demand from high margin overnight to 2 day e-Commerce delivery (all that Amazon Prime stuff). That means it needs to adjust to higher cargo volumes, less frequent trips and at a lower price point. More optimized mix of air/ground. That means bigger aircraft.

Until Amazon's "Prime Air" takes all that sweet sweet amazon traffic away from them.

casper
Oct 29, 2016, 6:07 PM
Until Amazon's "Prime Air" takes all that sweet sweet amazon traffic away from them.

it is amazing how quickly Amazon has integrated so many aspects of its business. The Prime Air came out of nowhere a few months ago. The plan for 2,000 physical grocery stores in the US is another.

The Prime service is putting pressure on other retailers to offer the same. Most other retailers cant build their own airline from free cash flow. UPS has those, but I agree longer term as Prime Air builds out it is going to be difficult for UPS and FedEx.

Johnny Aussie
Oct 29, 2016, 10:55 PM
Ask Johnny. He would know if anyone would. Right, J.A.?;);)

I don't have an exact date but the next major announcement should be quite "soon." CZ should also be officially announcing MEX very soon too.

Still some rouge stuff to sort out as there is still unused capacity on a couple of their planes.

trofirhen
Oct 29, 2016, 11:23 PM
I don't have an exact date but the next major announcement should be quite "soon." CZ should also be officially announcing MEX very soon too.
................
Still some rouge stuff ..............
Wow, Cathy adding Mexico City, too. Will this mean Air Canada, Aeromexico, and now Cathy doing the YVR-MEX route? I wish we could snag a MTY and / or GDL scheduled route.

jmt18325
Oct 30, 2016, 12:32 AM
CZ is China Southern, not Cathay Pacific (CX).

trofirhen
Oct 30, 2016, 1:50 AM
CZ is China Southern, not Cathay Pacific (CX).
Excuse me. Oh well, I was close.:(

LeftCoaster
Oct 31, 2016, 11:07 PM
Kinda quiet in here, so until the announcement of Johnny's colourful surprise (or any other surprises) I'll put up all the summaries I've completed, in order of size.

YYZ:
http://i.imgur.com/wZ4JwAF.png

SFO:
http://i.imgur.com/UydAbSt.png

YVR:
http://i.imgur.com/olgrtjk.png

YUL:
http://i.imgur.com/NaUPEz5.png

DFW:
http://i.imgur.com/ohpzCkV.png

SEA:
http://i.imgur.com/Dcwn0Md.png

YYC:
http://i.imgur.com/NRz9lga.png

Pretty easy to see each airports specialty, (YYZ and SFO are broad based, DFW is Latin American, YUL Europe, YVR is Asia etc...)

Working on the beast (LAX) and IAH right now.

nname
Oct 31, 2016, 11:10 PM
For YYZ - Total Airlines: 384??? :???:

nvm.. you corrected it :D

LeftCoaster
Oct 31, 2016, 11:13 PM
Haha ya it was pulling from the wrong cell.

Always lock your cells!!

trofirhen
Nov 1, 2016, 12:19 AM
For a city of our size (roughly 2.5m metro) that's pretty darn good!! Of course what puts us in there is the preponderance of Asia-Pacific flights. London is good, but Europe a little lacking.

thenoflyzone
Nov 1, 2016, 1:58 AM
I don't have an exact date but the next major announcement should be quite "soon." CZ should also be officially announcing MEX very soon too.

Still some rouge stuff to sort out as there is still unused capacity on a couple of their planes.

Interesting. Third carrier to operate YVR-MEX.

Their Skyteam partner, AM is soon increasing to 10x weekly on MEX-YVR.

AC is at daily on the route. That will be a lot of capacity increase in a short while. Not that it's the main reason why they will start the route.

MEX-CAN non stop isn't doable, so a fuel stop is required anyways. I can see YVR's appeal over LAX or SFO.

zahav
Nov 1, 2016, 7:03 AM
YVR has posted their September stats, and growth has increased from the rates seen in July and August! That's insane since those months were already unbelievable growth. Overall traffic for Sep increased 12.2% (it was 11% in July and almost 10% in August). Domestic qa up 8.9%, Transborder finally showing some great #s again, up 13.1%. Asia Pacific up 17.4%, Europe up 18.1%, and Misc. up 30.8%. Unreal! The thing that is even more notable is in each sector, September's year over year increase was greater than the YTD, meaning September had much faster growth than the year as a whole (which was already been high!). To have all 4 "international" sectors (Transborder, Europe, Asia, and Misc.) all posting growth over 13%?! I havent seent that before! What a roll YVR has been on this year! :)

http://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/facts-and-stats

excel
Nov 1, 2016, 7:13 AM
Wow those are crazy numbers.

LeftCoaster
Nov 1, 2016, 5:38 PM
Wow, I have been pretty vocal about the big growth I was expecting at YVR this year and this is smashing even my wildest expectations.

I expected August to be big but for growth to slow in September but it's ramping up even more! Europe is blowing me away, as is transborder. Domestic near 10 is just nuts. This isn't just AsiaPac growth this is across the board.

At this rate YVR's claims of hitting 21 million seem totally absurd. At this point we would need a significant slow down to not flat out blow past 22 million, skipping 21 entirely. In order to hit 22 million we would need to take our growth rate DOWN from 12.2% this month and 9.2% on the year to an average of 5.4% for all of Oct/Nov/Dec.

Johnny Aussie
Nov 1, 2016, 5:46 PM
Wow, I have been pretty vocal about the big growth I was expecting at YVR this year and this is smashing even my wildest expectations.

I expected August to be big but for growth to slow in September but it's ramping up even more! Europe is blowing me away, as is transborder. Domestic near 10 is just nuts. This isn't just AsiaPac growth this is across the board.

At this rate YVR's claims of hitting 21 million seem totally absurd. At this point we would need a significant slow down to not flat out blow past 22 million, skipping 21 entirely. In order to hit 22 million we would need to take our growth rate DOWN from 12.2% this month and 9.2% on the year to an average of 5.4% for all of Oct/Nov/Dec.

Fingers crossed! Channeling 22 Million 22 Million. I'll do my best in December to add to Transborder.

Sept 2016 is up over 212,000 pax from 2015. Holy Toledo!

LeftCoaster
Nov 1, 2016, 5:57 PM
Here they are in the format we usually post them in. Thanks for Zahav for the first post.

Overall up 12.2% an increase of 212,089 over September 2015

Domestic up 8.9%
Transborder up 13.1%
Asia Pacific up 17.4%
Europe up 18.1%
Misc Int'l up 30.8%

Ttl Int'l up 18.1%

Once again just blow away by these numbers. YVR up nearly 1.5 million on the year. :eeekk:

SFUVancouver
Nov 1, 2016, 6:23 PM
Wow! Those are stellar numbers.

Thanks for the heads up that they've been posted.

Looking forward to deafening silence in the Canada thread, just like with the 'best airport in the world' award. My grapes, they're so sour!

Gordon
Nov 1, 2016, 6:47 PM
Those are amazing numbers. That puts us just under 22m for the year.

any one heard any news on the work being done on pier A

Hourglass
Nov 2, 2016, 3:30 PM
Those are amazing numbers. That puts us just under 22m for the year.

any one heard any news on the work being done on pier A

Actually, if the growth rate of 9.2% is maintained for the rest of the year, YVR cracks 22m.

Think they need to dust off those terminal expansion plans quickly; another year of growth like this, and we're close to 24m passengers, not far off the stated annual capacity of 25m passengers.

mezzanine
Nov 2, 2016, 7:56 PM
Found this (http://apex.aero/2016/11/02/yvr2037-taps-public-master-paxex-future) interesting. No new YVR expansion announcements until the end of the year/start of the new year, I think at least until consultations are finished. One priority? the NS taxiway.

For example, a north-south taxiway that would serve as a shortcut for planes moving between terminals would be the first of its kind [?], built for the purpose of reducing greenhouse gas emissions. It was actually planned well before the Vancouver 2012 Olympics [:haha:], but only now is it emerging in public discourse. “It’s professional guessing!” said the Vancouver Airport Authority president and CEO Craig Richmond, though he reckons that the taxiway could become a reality within eight years. Of course, notes his YVR 2037 colleague, aviation industry advisor Heather Bell, “nothing’s simple in aviation!” The new taxiway would make life simpler for many pilots but more complicated for a few, she says, depending on who ends up pulling into which gate. Still, the environmental gains were considered compelling enough to prioritize the new taxiway.

SpongeG
Nov 2, 2016, 8:06 PM
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SpongeG
Nov 2, 2016, 8:19 PM
i never even heard of this happening :(

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excel
Nov 2, 2016, 10:01 PM
That's a pretty cool idea.

Van23H
Nov 2, 2016, 10:09 PM
I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but over the course of the last 6 months the international terminal retail area has seen major renovations. Separate stores for Bottega Veneta, Cartier, Bulgari, Omega, Salvatore Ferragamo have joined Burberry and Hermes. In addition a Gucci boutique opened this month. Previously they did have some of these brands but they were just counters vs. storefronts. YVR by far has the most luxury retailers than any other airport in North America.

excel
Nov 2, 2016, 10:26 PM
I think that's a little ridiculous. It would be nice to have more variety financially speaking.

SFUVancouver
Nov 2, 2016, 11:17 PM
Some further breakdown of the YVR September 2016 & Year to Date 2016 numbers. Considering how much of a monster 2015 was, posting double-digit year-over-year growth in pretty much every international category is impressive.

Total Passengers (Domestic, Transborder, and International) | September 2016 – 1,957,451 [up 12.2% from September 2015]
Total Passengers (Domestic, Transborder, and International) | Year to Date 2016 – 17,040,647 [up 9.2% from Year to Date 2015]

Domestic | September 2016 – 968,997 [up 8.9% from September 2015]
Domestic | Year to Date 2016 – 8,448,308 [up 7.5% from Year to Date 2015]

Total International (incl. Transborder) | September 2016 – 925,912 [up 16% from September 2015]
Total International (incl. Transborder) | Year to Date 2016 – 8,592,339 [up 10.8% from Year to Date 2015]

Transborder | September 2016 – 459,163 [up 13.2% from September 2015]
Transborder | Year to Date 2016 – 4,212,953 [up 6% from Year to Date 2015]

International – Asia Pacific | September 2016 – 311,307 [up 17.4% from September 2015]
International – Asia Pacific | Year to Date 2016 – 2,666,699 [up 14.5% from Year to Date 2015]

International – Europe | September 2016 – 147,931 [up 23.9% from September 2015]
International – Europe | Year to Date 2016 – 1,058,083 [up 18.2% from Year to Date 2015]

[edit: I skipped Miscellaneous International, so the numbers of Transborder, Asia, and Europe do not add up to the Total International.]

SpongeG
Nov 3, 2016, 6:31 AM
I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but over the course of the last 6 months the international terminal retail area has seen major renovations. Separate stores for Bottega Veneta, Cartier, Bulgari, Omega, Salvatore Ferragamo have joined Burberry and Hermes. In addition a Gucci boutique opened this month. Previously they did have some of these brands but they were just counters vs. storefronts. YVR by far has the most luxury retailers than any other airport in North America.

i was walking through the domestic terminal the other day, air canada side and read some of the paper permitson the boarded up fronts, one was for brooks brothers, one was lole, sunglass hut and i didn't read any others

zahav
Nov 3, 2016, 7:58 AM
They are doing another duty free expansion by D53 and will add new restaurants and lounges on newly created floors above, I will try and post some plans and rendering when I have them! Always good to add more retail and food options!

vanlaw
Nov 3, 2016, 4:20 PM
Does anyone know which version of the 787-8 JAL uses on YVR-NRT? There are two versions, one with what I would call "regular" economy seats (31" pitch and 17.5" width) and another with their new "spacious economy", which probably rivals a lot of premium economy products with 33" pitch and 18.9" seat width

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan_Airlines/Japan_Airlines_787-800_B.php

I've tried to a dummy booking on both Expedia and JAL but couldn't get to seat selection without entering passport info etc. There are some great fares for spring travel to Japan on all of JAL, AC and ANA at the moment, under $900.

thanks.

excel
Nov 3, 2016, 7:31 PM
When I flew in January of 2015 it was the regular economy I believe but may have changed.

vanlaw
Nov 3, 2016, 8:14 PM
When I flew in January of 2015 it was the regular economy I believe but may have changed.

Thanks - I would assume that as well given v2 only has 88 economy seats vs 144 in v1. At least it's still 2-4-2 and not 3-3-3 most have gone to.

Johnny Aussie
Nov 3, 2016, 9:50 PM
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/liberals-to-lift-foreign-ownership-of-domestic-airlines-draft-bill-of-rights-for-passengers

This is what Jetlines has been pushing for.

Jetlines now states looking at buying the C-Series.

Canadian74
Nov 3, 2016, 10:52 PM
Does anyone know which version of the 787-8 JAL uses on YVR-NRT? There are two versions, one with what I would call "regular" economy seats (31" pitch and 17.5" width) and another with their new "spacious economy", which probably rivals a lot of premium economy products with 33" pitch and 18.9" seat width

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan_Airlines/Japan_Airlines_787-800_B.php

I've tried to a dummy booking on both Expedia and JAL but couldn't get to seat selection without entering passport info etc. There are some great fares for spring travel to Japan on all of JAL, AC and ANA at the moment, under $900.

thanks.

It's amazing they can make money with only 161 seats and no First class

vanlaw
Nov 3, 2016, 11:49 PM
It's amazing they can make money with only 161 seats and no First class

They probably offset any losses by flying a 500 seat 777-300 on short domestic routes...that's high density!

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan_Airlines/Japan_Airlines_Boeing_777-300.php

Spork
Nov 4, 2016, 4:03 AM
I flew JAL last May and let me tell you, those seats were luxuriously large compared to long haul I've done on AC, BA, KLM, etc.

Johnny Aussie
Nov 6, 2016, 10:19 AM
Sorry articles only in Spanish... But....

Interjet

http://sipse.com/novedades/cancun-interjet-vuelos-toronto-mercado-turismo-turistas-canada-aviones-aerolinea-aeropuerto-228516.html

Basically..... Interjet has indicated they plan on starting direct flights from MEX to YVR and YYZ next year. They are also looking at adding direct flights to CUN and GDL at a later date.

Volaris

http://expansion.mx/empresas/2016/10/19/canada-seduce-a-interjet-y-volaris-tras-el-fin-de-visa

A little more vague but Volaris also looking at YVR. Basically the elimination of the visa requirement and lower airline operating costs has opened the door for more flights to YVR from MEX, GDL and MTY. YVR is working with Interjet and Volaris to land direct flights to GDL and MTY.

excel
Nov 6, 2016, 5:04 PM
Great news. Lets hope this happens.

SpongeG
Nov 6, 2016, 5:39 PM
i used westjet to fly this time, hated it, but anyway they use the A B security. Everytime I have ever used that side security seems to take forever, i waited in line at least 15 minutes before getting assigned to a line.

I usually fly with Air Canada and use C gate security, in themultiple times I have used it I have never waited more than a couple of minutes and usually there is no line up at all and even when there is one it moves so quickly you never seem to wait more than 5 minutes.

why is that? why is A B gate so slow compared to C? do the airlines have a say in how muc staf they want used in security?

SpongeG
Nov 6, 2016, 5:44 PM
https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/765835512714604631

when did this start?

casper
Nov 7, 2016, 6:41 AM
https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/765835512714604631

when did this start?

The news release....
http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1006

Johnny Aussie
Nov 7, 2016, 7:01 AM
http://www.jetlines.ca

"...planning to launch operations in Summer 2017."

"...primary bases at (YVR) and in Southern Ontario."

moosejaw
Nov 7, 2016, 2:44 PM
Great news about the mexican airlines. DIdnt know Cancun was such a big market for Canada. I can read spanish, you really dont have a choice when in Miami

trofirhen
Nov 7, 2016, 3:59 PM
http://www.jetlines.ca

"...planning to launch operations in Summer 2017."

"...primary bases at (YVR) and in Southern Ontario."
I'd love to know what some of their prices will be, as they call themselves an ULCC "ultra low cost carrier."

nname
Nov 7, 2016, 8:02 PM
http://www.jetlines.ca

"...planning to launch operations in Summer 2017."

"...primary bases at (YVR) and in Southern Ontario."

I think the "Southern Ontario" hub would be Hamilton, according to the map they released a couple of years ago.

And in response.... WestJet would run daily YVR-YHM flight this summer:

https://www.westjet.com/guest/en/deals/offers/hamilton-vancouver.shtml

excel
Nov 7, 2016, 9:07 PM
Nice. This well help relieve some pressure on the YYZ flights.

Johnny Aussie
Nov 7, 2016, 9:27 PM
The YHM daily flight on Westjet is an increase from 3 weekly this last summer.

I think the Westjet move is also tied into NewLeafs ambitions. Will they still be flying next summer? Route map has already shrunk to 8 destinations.

Curious if they'll bring back YXU and YHZ too.

Also curious if maybe rouge has a crack at YHM too. They had planned YYC-YHM but those flights never took off. With AC now concentrating on YVR out west it's certainly not out of the realm of possibilities.

As for Jetlines... Summer 2017 is really not that far away... lots of work ahead to get lift off.

The Mexican carriers' stories are more exciting in my mind. Interjet sounds like a given. Imagine YVR-MEX to be served by 4 carriers. AC, AM, CZ and probably 4O.

trofirhen
Nov 7, 2016, 9:46 PM
..........

The Mexican carriers' stories are more exciting in my mind. Interjet sounds like a given. Imagine YVR-MEX to be served by 4 carriers. AC, AM, CZ and probably 4O.
Firstly, what is the "40" you refer to? Secondly, when might the flights to MTY and GDL start up, do you think, and at perhaps what frequency. Daily? ... this is exciting news. :)

Orcair
Nov 8, 2016, 12:30 AM
Firstly, what is the "40" you refer to? Secondly, when might the flights to MTY and GDL start up, do you think, and at perhaps what frequency. Daily? ... this is exciting news. :)

4O = Interjet's IATA code afaik

Klazu
Nov 8, 2016, 12:45 AM
The Mexican carriers' stories are more exciting in my mind. Interjet sounds like a given. Imagine YVR-MEX to be served by 4 carriers. AC, AM, CZ and probably 4O.

That would be crazy unless that's connecting traffic to Asia flights. Hoping to see cheap MEX flights...

nname
Nov 8, 2016, 12:59 AM
That would be crazy unless that's connecting traffic to Asia flights. Hoping to see cheap MEX flights...

And at that time, AC would rouge YVR-MEX and start dumping seats :uhh:

mezzanine
Nov 8, 2016, 3:21 AM
a little PR piece from BIV, but it really shows how the 787 is changing how AC looks at YVR and how long thin routes are finding a niche in YVR. No surprise that J/higher-yielding pax is driving AC YVR growth, no surprise that AC is "considering launching other routes out of Vancouver to “Asia and the South Pacific”" due to the dreamliner but I was surprised to learn that YVRAA is angling for mumbai.

VAA CEO Craig Richmond suggested that a future Air Canada route out of YVR on Dreamliner aircraft could be to Mumbai, which is India’s financial centre.

That route could be in the cards given that the airline already plans to launch non-stop flights between Toronto and Mumbai, on Dreamliner planes, starting in July 2017.

“Mumbai is a logical route for us,” Richmond said. “We’re actually starting to see some cities that so far have not been on our list [of potential new routes] become viable, like Barcelona. That’s a real opportunity.”

Smith stressed that any new long-haul route out of Vancouver would require demand from business travellers.

That rules out new non-stop flights to faraway vacation destinations, such as Bali, Indonesia.

“Bali is very far for a predominantly leisure route,” he said. “These types of routes, because you’re carrying the fuel so much further, if there’s no business component, it’s pretty hard to make the route viable.”

https://www.biv.com/article/2016/11/dreamliner-opening-skies-increased-yvr-traffic/