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nname
Jun 13, 2016, 7:40 AM
Hot Rod, I (and I'm sure all SSP Vancouver) love your support of Vancouver. I just don't get why you feel Vancouver has it all over Seattle, which has a much larger GDP$ than Vancouver (and,by extension, more business pax). Plus, Seattle is a larger metro by one million plus. I would have thought SEA would be first choice, not YVR. :)

Well, Turkish and Thai are both Star Alliance member, so they could benefit from AC's network in North America. Plus in YVR don't have EK... The case for TK is obvious, but do you know that EK flies SEVEN daily BKK-DXB, with mostly A380?

trofirhen
Jun 13, 2016, 2:36 PM
Well, Turkish and Thai are both Star Alliance member, so they could benefit from AC's network in North America. Plus in YVR don't have EK... The case for TK is obvious, but do you know that EK flies SEVEN daily BKK-DXB, with mostly A380?
..... regarding EK serving Seattle, I have a faint glimmer of hope that TK would recognize that as heavy competition, and wait for YVR landing rights ....
if Ottawa will give it to them, which is a long shot, given their protection of YYZ.

LeftCoaster
Jun 13, 2016, 11:24 PM
Did anyone really expect anything else? That good ol' Eastern Canada / YYZ / AC protectionism is still there.

Did you read the whole article? At the end it quoted the bilateral lawyer as stating that Air Canada was likely involved in teh process:

“I can’t imagine (Turkish) would start this process without having gotten Air Canada’s support,” said Clark, adding he could see the YVR flight coming as early as 2017. “Where one foreign airline may have a lot of difficulties coming in on their own, it appears to be very easy to do if you get the support of a Canadian carrier.

Personally I think we will see a Turkish link to YVR announced in the next 12 months. There's just too much chatter for nothing to be happening.

Though AC (and most flag carriers) has it's protectionist tendencies, I think the fact that Turkish is Star Alliance will do a lot to make this route happen. Additionally YVR is Air Canada's second largest hub, though they clearly favour YYZ (as they should) I don't think they are trying to stifle growth at YVR.

The Vancouver Sun. I get more disappointed in their reporting day by day.

In the last paragraph their expert claims soon we should be seeing a Vancouver - Auckland flight established.

Only problem is we have had that route for a few years now.

I think if you look at the context in which he was speaking it was an Air Canada Auckland and Melbourne link. They we're quoting an industry speaker anyway, so if anything it was he that was misinformed.

twoNeurons
Jun 14, 2016, 12:08 AM
Good to see the Turkish community stepping up and Turkish Airline's interest in going out with Vancouver. It's funny that Seattle is the backup, lol.

As to the earlier question regarding Thai, I believe they are interested in both cities; likely starting with Vancouver since it is closest and easiest to get going. If demand is as projected, they'd then add Seattle. That's just a guess based on what I read and what folks posted concerning the competitive advantages Vancouver has; many of the very obvious - over Seattle.

I think Seattle's new Terminal plan is to basically redu the South Satellite. Seattle doesn't have the land/space to really construct a true International Terminal (ala YVR or SFO) that could ever hope to really compete. This IMO is really just Delta wanting to expand/rehab the South Terminal and SEA's desire to expand/modernize the Customs/Immigration; however, the fact that Delta is even interested in playing ball on this DOES show a commitment from DL to making SEA a gateway (which honestly I'm actually surprised given the loads). SEA is definitely trying to be a player, though - the little engine that 'could'.

I think Delta is hoping that Seattle will in the future become a major player and saw a hole to fill. Alaska, which officially is not part of ANY alliance, has almost half of all flights out of SeaTac.

Here's an interesting article on the expansion from last year, and on the debates over who will pay for it: http://old.seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2025558052_seatacgrowthxml.html

Some comments from the article:
In an interview before Tuesday’s meeting, Mike Medeiros, Delta vice president in charge of Seattle operations, described the planned facility as “critically, critically important for Sea-Tac to keep a competitive edge” against rival West Coast airline gateways such as Vancouver, B.C., and San Francisco.

Another opinion from a blogger: http://www.travelcodex.com/2015/01/plans-expanding-seatac-leave-scratching-head/
How about an extension of the existing terminal that connects it to the North and South Satellites? Even over long distances, physical connections between buildings make it easier to transfer between flights or rush when you’re running late. The South Satellite would be an especially good candidate for connecting to Concourse A, much as Concourses B and C currently branch off the main building.
I'm with the blogger on this one. A physical connection is not only typically faster, but psychologically closer. The instant you have to wait for a train, the distance seems much further than it would be to walk.


YVR doesn't have as many of these money issues and it has a cohesive plan that's been in the works for decades, not just being thought up after Delta puts some routes through Seattle. YVR has also had a much higher AIF for much longer ( SeaTac's AIF is $4.50 ) and that has allowed it to have the money to make a cohesive plan to expand the airport on its own terms.

It is interesting to see SeaTac's development over time. I will say that SeaTac not pushing to have the LRT routed closer to the terminal hurts it considerably. I was just there and the route to the LRT is annoying, through a parking garage and really feels like an afterthought.

We all like to lament YVR losing pax to BLI to SEA, but I think in some ways SEA has more struggles. They have to compete more directly with SFO and with the 787 coming online, even places like PDX represent competition.

It makes sense that Delta wants to make Seattle a hub. United and American don't have a strong presence there and Seattle's in a good position for Asia ( read: China ). In addition, Seattle has good potential for business pax, with a much larger corporate presence. But until they get building and figure out some of the logistics issues, they will continue to lose pax to SFO and yes, even YVR.

trofirhen
Jun 14, 2016, 12:37 AM
......................

Personally I think we will see a Turkish link to YVR announced in the next 12 months. There's just too much chatter for nothing to be happening.

Though AC (and most flag carriers) has it's protectionist tendencies, I think the fact that Turkish is Star Alliance will do a lot to make this route happen. Additionally YVR is Air Canada's second largest hub, though they clearly favour YYZ (as they should) I don't think they are trying to stifle growth at YVR.

..... Hope you're right, LC !! (You often are;))

twoNeurons
Jun 14, 2016, 1:18 AM
Here's a few fun comparison facts:

Downtown to YVR distance ( by Canada Line ): ~15 km
Downtown to SEA distance ( by Link LRT ): ~15 miles

Average speed: 35 km/h vs. 38 km/h ( Seattle LRT slightly faster, assuming no delays in the transit tunnel )

Number of stops: 11 ( both )

Time to destination

to YVR: 24 minutes
to SEA: 34 minutes

Connection to terminal:
YVR: <1 minute
SEA: 4 minutes

In many ways, the two systems are similar ( same number of stops, same overall average speed ).

YVR is closer than SeaTac so that's an advantage.
SeaTac has better road connections ( obviously ) not giving LRT a clear advantage over taxis/cars outside of rush hour.

YVR's station is located much closer to the terminal, though in comparison with many US airports, SEA has good a location.

Seattle's Link LRT has a MUCH better view and experience and a better intro to the city ( IMHO ).

Anyway, just to those who were curious, I've done the arithmetic.

aberdeen5698
Jun 14, 2016, 3:56 AM
Seattle's Link LRT has a MUCH better view and experience and a better intro to the city ( IMHO ).

I always thought it was a big mistake to bury the Canada Line south of 25th Avenue for precisely this reason.

Marshal
Jun 14, 2016, 9:19 AM
I always thought it was a big mistake to bury the Canada Line south of 25th Avenue for precisely this reason.

Are you serious? Its a transit line, not an amusement ride. The experience of riders has some importance but not in the manner you are speaking. There are other more important factors involved. I love the views on Skytrain, but would bury most of it in an instant if money allowed. Its not the worst thing to thread through the city, but the guide way is still a negative imposition on most of the places it runs over.

Hot Rod
Jun 14, 2016, 10:57 AM
you failed to read the article. Bigger doesn't always Better!

I also think you fail to realize that SEA's economy is mostly IT/knowledge based, which isn't/doesn't need to travel (ok, maybe that was a plug for my employer - Microsoft, and our Cloud, but still). Very much can explain SEA's relative lack of business international.

And my opinion of many of you Vancouverites on this forum is you tend to over-estimate or trump up Seattle unnecessarily; seemingly to the level of how you treat Toronto. There's NO reason why an International airline would chose Seattle over Vancouver unless 1) Seattle offers incentives or 2) they COULDN"T get into Vancouver for whatever reason (ala Eremites). See SEA's Int'l Flags vs. YVR's and tell me I'm wrong here.

Seems to be a bit of a complex in Vancouver, not sure why since the world loves your city regardless if you're a 4m metro area by the Canadian Census Bureau or US Standards. ....

I don't feel Vancouver has it all over Seattle (even though like many Seattleites I PREFER VANCOUVER as a city). But I do think that YVR has it all over SEA and I don't think I'm wrong with my opinion either.

ok, back to the thread - as I mentioned and the article did, I suspect Thai will service both cities eventually but I personally think they will go to YVR first given they're not looking for any of the attributes you mentioned that makes Seattle shine better than Vancouver as a market (otherwise, they'd go BACK into LAX). ...

LeftCoaster
Jun 14, 2016, 11:18 PM
Can't remember if I've shared this here or not but I put together a chart of Seattle's intl service in the summer, and it's significantly less than YVR.

Of course SEA crushes YVR on the US connections but YVR is significantly better connected intercontinentally.

http://i.imgur.com/Fr8GksZ.png

Compared to YVR as I posted last week:

http://i.imgur.com/yPjKOtz.png

trofirhen
Jun 14, 2016, 11:36 PM
Wow, we do beat out SEA-TAC for overseas.
The only ones they have that we don't are Emirates to Dubai, and Volaris to Guadalajara.
Also, Icelandic is much more present in Seattle, but that's really because they filled the void SAS left (and there is a big Scandinavian market in Seattle)

mezzanine
Jun 15, 2016, 12:12 AM
no tourist charters for SEA? I don't see condor, edelweiss or an intl vacation charter/LCC like air transit on that list.

LeftCoaster
Jun 15, 2016, 12:41 AM
Condor is on the list. As far as I know that's the only one that flies to SEA.

casper
Jun 15, 2016, 2:29 AM
no tourist charters for SEA? I don't see condor, edelweiss or an intl vacation charter/LCC like air transit on that list.

Charter airlines just are not a big thing in the US.

zahav
Jun 15, 2016, 6:49 AM
YVR introducing more resturants! They chose some good diverse ones too (Tacoshack, Pajos Fish & Chips, a Banh Mi sandwhich shop, Lift Bar + Grill, and others). I am curious which existing restaurants these are taking over from, I am going to message YVR and find out :) I have to say the international food court before security is kinda lame, they could definitely use more choices (that Brooks Brothers store should really be more food!).

I have to say, I love how proactive YVR is, when it comes to terminal redevelopment and expansion, innovations (ie the new Dog Relief room, new connection corridors, baggage systems, etc.), and now better food choice. They don't sit back and just enjoy the high airport rankings they keep receiving, rather they try to stay ahead of the curve. Obviously it's no Singapre or Incheon, but by most standards the airport is really well run!

http://www.yvr.ca/en/blog/new-eats-take-off-at-yvr

moosejaw
Jun 15, 2016, 2:31 PM
Charter airlines just are not a big thing in the US.

Charters have somewhat of prescence in south florida
We have Eastern Airlines in MIA that offers service to Cuba
Condor flies out of FLL

But in response to your assumption (which is correct), I believe South Florida is more of a charter destination that any other US city..similar to Vegas. A lot of europeans here in the winter.

Klazu
Jun 16, 2016, 2:37 AM
Visited the designer outlet this evening on my way to drop off my wife at YVR. Still quite a lot people shopping at 7pm on a regular Wednesday evening, but I did feel like the only caucasian there.

I was surprised that not a single new store had opened since my last visit in last September. The back area is still almost empty with just few stores. People have been saying that the outlet is doing great, but strange that they have not been able to lure in any new stores since it opened. Still the only queue is outside of that Coach store. Like, what is so special about that place? I just don't get it... :koko:

I was hoping to have the A380 fly above, but the flight was delayed tonight. Has a Dreamliner flyover, though. My wife is flying on the A380 to London tonight, which makes me slightly jealous, having not been onboard one yet. :(

SFUVancouver
Jun 17, 2016, 7:54 PM
Here's a few fun comparison facts:

Downtown to YVR distance ( by Canada Line ): ~15 km
Downtown to SEA distance ( by Link LRT ): ~15 miles

Average speed: 35 km/h vs. 38 km/h ( Seattle LRT slightly faster, assuming no delays in the transit tunnel )

Number of stops: 11 ( both )

Time to destination

to YVR: 24 minutes
to SEA: 34 minutes

Connection to terminal:
YVR: <1 minute
SEA: 4 minutes

In many ways, the two systems are similar ( same number of stops, same overall average speed ).

YVR is closer than SeaTac so that's an advantage.
SeaTac has better road connections ( obviously ) not giving LRT a clear advantage over taxis/cars outside of rush hour.

YVR's station is located much closer to the terminal, though in comparison with many US airports, SEA has good a location.

Seattle's Link LRT has a MUCH better view and experience and a better intro to the city ( IMHO ).

Anyway, just to those who were curious, I've done the arithmetic.

I heard recently that between 17-20% of the passengers and employees of YVR now travel by the Canada Line (presumably not including the employees who ride it APM-style between the employee parking lot and terminal).

Black Box
Jun 17, 2016, 8:34 PM
2019 is going to be a big year for SEA with a new terminal. If the Port can get it together, the results will be highly beneficial for Seattle and the Puget Sound region. Hot Rod, as someone who's lives here as well, the Port of Seattle provides many jobs (although competition from BC and California is slowly eroding business), we build planes and ships (Boeing is slowly eroding), but Seattle has a flourishing, dynamic and enviable economy. The future of space travel is also taking shape here. Seattle is pretty resilient, but there's no doubt in my mind that testing times for us await in the Emerald City.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 17, 2016, 10:24 PM
Another route launch happening today.

Almost forgot about this one... kinda just slipped under the carpet.

Today it's Air Transat to Roma!

First flight scheduled to depart in about 15 mins.

trofirhen
Jun 18, 2016, 1:04 AM
Another route launch happening today.

Almost forgot about this one... kinda just slipped under the carpet.

Today it's Air Transat to Roma!

First flight scheduled to depart in about 15 mins.

In a circa 2010 confidential .../ unpastable demand graph sent to me by a YVR contact, people were asked their first choice as a new overseas destination.
Paris at that time, led demand (18.6% of all demands) which we finally got. But second choice was Rome at 9.6%, then Melbourne at 9.4% and (at that time, DBX with 8.5% demand, then Osaka with 7.4% first destination request, then Delhi at 7.2%, and other destinations which were then requested less but now are high yield, important routes, like Guangzhou, so things can change for sure. (It had only a 3.9% request at the time, such irony)

Anyway, ROME. Too much low yield family traffic and / or holiday stuff to make it go, I guess. Seems worth investigating, somehow, though, given apparent demand for it; unless changed.

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Johnny Aussie
Jun 19, 2016, 4:49 AM
YYZ finally posted April numbers so I thought I'd show you how YVR is stacking up against the other top 5 Canadian airports....

The figures are for April 2016 compared to April 2015 and YTD - the rankings for growth are the same for April and YTD for ease of presentation:

YVR up 5.3% YTD up 7.6%
YYZ up 2.7% YTD up 4.9%
YUL up 1.5% YTD up 4.2%
YYC down 2.2% YTD up 1.3%
YEG down 12.9% YTD down 8.5%

All in all YVR is still doing very well... as expected.

Other airports reporting:

YOW down 4.5% YTD down 0.5%
YYJ up 2.6% YTD up 3.8%
YLW down 0.6% YTD up 6.2%
YQB down 0.7% YTD up 0.8%

excel
Jun 19, 2016, 8:48 PM
Thanks for posting these numbers together.

csbvan
Jun 19, 2016, 9:54 PM
So the airports leading growth currently are YVR and YLW? Nice, BC airports are busy. YYJ isn't doing too bad either.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 20, 2016, 10:33 PM
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/6/aerotropolis-yvr-gains-altitude/

Klazu
Jun 20, 2016, 11:04 PM
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/6/aerotropolis-yvr-gains-altitude/

I suppose a business park on Sea Island next to Canada Line is better than Richmonds other car-dependent business parks, but I still wish office jobs would rather be in Downtown for more office towers to go up. Logistically both are close to YVR by rail. That is, unless they are talking about businesses like Canada Post which naturally are better off next to the airport.

excel
Jun 21, 2016, 1:53 AM
Small rustle in news about Canada Jetlines:
https://www.biv.com/article/2016/6/canada-jetlines-seeks-have-more-foreign-investment/

urbancanadian
Jun 21, 2016, 4:54 AM
Here's the concept image YVR released several years ago of the business park. I'm sure it's out of date now. Note the Templeton interchange.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7568/27196976094_dc2dc46e9b_o.jpg
Vancouver Airport Authority

casper
Jun 21, 2016, 5:18 AM
I suppose a business park on Sea Island next to Canada Line is better than Richmonds other car-dependent business parks, but I still wish office jobs would rather be in Downtown for more office towers to go up. Logistically both are close to YVR by rail. That is, unless they are talking about businesses like Canada Post which naturally are better off next to the airport.

What is disappointing is the outlet mall is predominantly one level of retail. Depending on flight levels etc. those building could have housed office space above the retail. What would have been better is something like uptown in Victoria (http://shopuptown.ca/).

The example they cite in the article of gordon food services that is basically a warehousing and repack facility. I don't know them specifically, but most warehouse buildings I have been in usually have an over abundance of office space. Usually it is located on a mezzanine level above the main warehouse space, in many cases these types of companies end up with far more office space than you need due to how the building is forced to be laid out.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 21, 2016, 10:10 AM
First scheduled KE 747-8I leaves ICN tomorrow (22 June) bound for YVR.

This passenger bird is a lot more rare than the A380 as it is only flown by LH, CA and KE.

ETA at YVR is 12:50pm on the 22nd.

Next up (8 days later) is the return of the flying roo 744 to SYD for a longer season this summer.

And the new Westjet domestic routes to YHM, YXU and YHZ all kick off next week too.

Klazu
Jun 21, 2016, 1:47 PM
Here's the concept image YVR released several years ago of the business park. I'm sure it's out of date now. Note the Templeton interchange.

https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7568/27196976094_dc2dc46e9b_o.jpg
Vancouver Airport Authority

That. Looks. Horrible.

trofirhen
Jun 21, 2016, 2:14 PM
That. Looks. Horrible.
Industrial parks are not renowned for their beauty.

twoNeurons
Jun 21, 2016, 6:28 PM
This passenger bird is a lot more rare than the A380 as it is only flown by LH, CA and KE.


Much prettier than an A380 as well.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UYciQVwNCjM/T7UJs7oeUDI/AAAAAAAAHg8/WWDr-pP_LRE/s1600/_origin_Labakie-lidaparati-7.jpg

Jebby
Jun 23, 2016, 4:22 AM
That. Looks. Horrible.

I agree. Not enough surface parking.

Marshal
Jun 23, 2016, 6:38 AM
Industrial parks are not renowned for their beauty.

Except it isn't an industrial park: rather, offices.

trofirhen
Jun 23, 2016, 9:56 AM
Except it isn't an industrial park: rather, offices.
Oops excuse me. Office parks are not renowned for their beauty.

zahav
Jun 23, 2016, 9:30 PM
Just being a geek for a bit, I looked at some of the historic stats for YVR traffic. The "Misc. Intl." category has really picked up, wow... In just 4 months this year, traffic in this category is already the same or more than in ALL of 2002 and 2003. So I take it this is basically just Latin America (sun destinations + Mexico City?). I think Australia/NZ are in Asia Pacific, but might be wrong? It seems like a lot of extra Misc. Intl. but if so, that's awesome! Any feedback confirming this category would be appreciated (link here for historic stats):

http://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/facts-and-stats

Johnny Aussie
Jun 23, 2016, 11:59 PM
Just being a geek for a bit, I looked at some of the historic stats for YVR traffic. The "Misc. Intl." category has really picked up, wow... In just 4 months this year, traffic in this category is already the same or more than in ALL of 2002 and 2003. So I take it this is basically just Latin America (sun destinations + Mexico City?). I think Australia/NZ are in Asia Pacific, but might be wrong? It seems like a lot of extra Misc. Intl. but if so, that's awesome! Any feedback confirming this category would be appreciated (link here for historic stats):

http://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/facts-and-stats

I think you are right. I've always understood Asia / Pacific to include NZ and Australia. Misc Int'l would most likely be the sun routes and MEX. Throw in a new daily flight to MEX on AM and that's a significant amount of new capacity.

Edit: looking at the table MISC INT'L increased by about 300 pax per day so 150 inbound and 150 outbound... Pretty much matches the new Aeromexico capacity.... assuming everything else's was static... I don't think there was that much more misc INT'L capacity added this winter.

Email YVR and ask them... or tweet them or ask on FB. They are usually pretty open.

zahav
Jun 24, 2016, 7:38 AM
Yes that makes sense Johnny Aussie! Makes you think how little the JAL flights that used to go to Mexico CIty added to the volumes... The fact that in 4 months we eclipsed 12 months in 2002/03, back when JAL had 747s on that route, and Mexicana had their dailies.

LeftCoaster
Jun 24, 2016, 5:18 PM
AvgeekYVR got a video of Korean's first 7478i landing the other day. Looks fantastic! Not as big as the 380 but certainly much more handsome.

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Johnny Aussie
Jun 24, 2016, 8:28 PM
So for a whole 5 weeks, Westjet adding more flights from YVR-YWG and YVR-YEG. Just in time for the rest of the peak summer. In addition they are launching YEG-YHM and YLW-YWG.... clearly in response to NewLeaf's announcement.

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1146

Edit: Westjet says YVR-YEG going to 54 flights per week but that was the planned schedule anyway so not sure what they are on about. YWG definitely increases by 4 flights per week from 20 to 24.

SFUVancouver
Jun 24, 2016, 8:39 PM
Love the looks of the 748! The raked wingtips, giant chevroned engines, and the upper deck that's essentially a 737 being given a piggyback ride; incredible. Thanks for posting the video.

trofirhen
Jun 26, 2016, 5:09 AM
Love the looks of the 748! The raked wingtips, giant chevroned engines, and the upper deck that's essentially a 737 being given a piggyback ride; incredible. Thanks for posting the video.
At one point, not so many moons ago, the 747 was considered more or less on its way out. This new version is impressive, and if it's good on fuel range, means more life for the 747 !!

connect2source
Jun 26, 2016, 3:20 PM
The 747-8, although impressive is a dead duck, only 40 of the passenger versions ordered since offered in 2005, Lufthansa with the most at 19, the A380 is the clear winner here with almost 10X the orders and even A380 is suffering with slow sales. The VLA aircraft category has been a challenge, airlines have preferred highly efficient twin-engine planes like the 787, 777, A330 and A350's as with ETOPS, there's been little reason to go with large 4-engine planes.

Klazu
Jun 26, 2016, 6:41 PM
AvgeekYVR got a video of Korean's first 7478i landing the other day. Looks fantastic! Not as big as the 380 but certainly much more handsome.

There were in total four 747s at YVR on that day with another cargo 747-8 from Cathay Pacific. :)

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Also this BA A380 take off from YVR is really nice. Vancouver seeing some nice action these days! :tup:

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trofirhen
Jun 27, 2016, 12:06 AM
Great news! I agree with YVR being a natural choice over SEA - not only is YVR a star hub with AC and UA feed, Thai nationals can transfer in canada without a visa (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/twov/travellers.asp), while thais cannot transfer in the USA without one. (https://www.cbp.gov/travel/international-visitors/frequently-asked-questions-about-visa-waiver-program-vwp-and-electronic-system-travel) Canada's TWOV also is granted for Indonesians and Indonesian nationals may be drawn to a potential BKK-YVR route.

SEA is also congested with the alaska/delta war of attrition..........
The TWOV website is up and ready, with instructions for both YVR and YYZ non visa transfer pax. But when will it be up and running; that is, operational? Or is it already?

connect2source
Jun 27, 2016, 2:10 AM
Slightly off-topic but Air Canada's new website is working and almost up, it's gorgeous and hugely improved in every way, about time too, the old one was rather dated and lacklustre.

https://beta.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home.html

twoNeurons
Jun 27, 2016, 5:58 PM
Any thoughts about the new airline startup GoLeaf?

Do you think they offer competition? They're pure no-frills like many European Airlines, or a few like Allegiant out of BLI.

http://gonewleaf.ca/

They seem to be focusing on Winnipeg, Hamilton, and Kelowna, but they also have flights out of YXX ( Abbotsford ).

http://gonewleaf.ca/site/assets/files/1126/site-route-map-retina.910x0-is.png

Looks like you can get a flight from YXX to YEG or YWG for $258 all-in ( plus luggage fees, etc. ) Each segment costs $119.

s211
Jun 27, 2016, 6:05 PM
Any thoughts about the new airline startup GoLeaf?

Vague reminder of Greyhound Air back in the 90s.

SFUVancouver
Jun 27, 2016, 6:12 PM
So this may be a bit of a random question, but does anyone have insight into some odd departure activity yesterday (Sunday June 26th)? Specifically, between 3:30 and 5 I saw eight or nine identical small CRJs (or large private jets) without recognizable airline liveries depart YVR and fly northeast over the park where I was playing softball (approximately Oak and 41st). It may well have been the same jet doing touch and go training, but it was definitely odd and I don't think that there necessarily would have been time for the airplane to depart, circulate into a landing approach, land and then take off again based on the cadence of the overflights of the airplanes. It might be possible, but I'm doubtful. Does anyone have any thoughts?

Hourglass
Jun 27, 2016, 11:59 PM
So this may be a bit of a random question, but does anyone have insight into some odd departure activity yesterday (Sunday June 26th)? Specifically, between 3:30 and 5 I saw eight or nine identical small CRJs (or large private jets) without recognizable airline liveries depart YVR and fly northeast over the park where I was playing softball (approximately Oak and 41st). It may well have been the same jet doing touch and go training, but it was definitely odd and I don't think that there necessarily would have been time for the airplane to depart, circulate into a landing approach, land and then take off again based on the cadence of the overflights of the airplanes. It might be possible, but I'm doubtful. Does anyone have any thoughts?

ILS flight checks, maybe?

http://www.yvr.ca/en/updates/ils-check-25-26-june-2016

SFUVancouver
Jun 28, 2016, 12:27 AM
ILS flight checks, maybe?

http://www.yvr.ca/en/updates/ils-check-25-26-june-2016

That's it! That was the aircraft I saw on Sunday.

I didn't recognize the livery and it was too far away (and I was supposed to be keeping my eyes on the game) for me to read the writing on the fuselage. Mystery solved. Thank you!

twoNeurons
Jun 28, 2016, 12:59 AM
Vague reminder of Greyhound Air back in the 90s.
But in a completely different time.

A time when most airlines are charging for your first luggage, anyhow.

A time when WestJet isn't "really" a low-cost carrier, but rather an efficient alternative to Air Canada.

casper
Jun 28, 2016, 5:27 AM
Vague reminder of Greyhound Air back in the 90s.

The difference is Greyhound Air operated a hub service in Winnipeg with a daily west-bound bank and a daily east bank.

Basically four of five aircraft would depart eastern Canada for Winnipeg. Arrive at around the same time permitting connection then depart for western Canada destination. The reverse would also happen in the opposite direction. I think it was Boeing 727 service. Pretty close to daily service. When laidlawy purchased Greyhound they pulled the plug on the service.

These guys appear to be flying from secondary airports to secondary airports with no real hub strategy.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 28, 2016, 6:26 AM
Expect some positive news regarding:

Hainan to Tianjin (788s) - would be fantastic if this originates in Chongqing too.
Beijing Capital Airlines to Qingdao and Hangzhou (332s)

Most likely happening by the end of this year.

Stay tuned for updates.

Imagine.... 7 mainland Chinese Airlines flying into YVR.

That will also be 23 overseas passenger carriers flying into YVR as well. By far the second most of any airport in Canada except for YYZ of course! YVR will also most likely continue to be the fastest growing Canadian airport in 2016 as well. Both for overall growth and international passenger growth.

And there sounds like there may be more to come.... and not just from China perhaps.... :runaway:

Hot Rod
Jun 28, 2016, 9:09 AM
oh, dont run away Johnny. Keep us informed.

trofirhen
Jun 28, 2016, 10:40 AM
Expect some positive news regarding:

Hainan to Tianjin (788s) - would be fantastic if this originates in Chongqing too.
Beijing Capital Airlines to Qingdao and Hangzhou (332s)

Most likely happening by the end of this year.

Stay tuned for updates.

Imagine.... 7 mainland Chinese Airlines flying into YVR.

That will also be 23 overseas passenger carriers flying into YVR as well. By far the second most of any airport in Canada except for YYZ of course! YVR will also most likely continue to be the fastest growing Canadian airport in 2016 as well. Both for overall growth and international passenger growth.

And there sounds like there may be more to come.... and not just from China perhaps.... :runaway:
Like from where, Johnny ?!?! :???::rolleyes:

Johnny Aussie
Jun 28, 2016, 10:44 AM
Like from where, Johnny ?!?! :???::rolleyes:

Oh come on! I can't divulge all my secrets.

My last post should be enough to keep us rolling along for the next few months.

Let's just say there are a few things in the works in different stages of development and Air Canada is not done with YVR either (mainline and rouge). Whether all, any or none of these developments cross the finish line... :shrug:

connect2source
Jun 28, 2016, 1:07 PM
Air Canada firms up deal for 45 Bombardier CSeries CS-300's with options for 30 more, hopefully this means we'll see lots of these at YVR!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-bombarder-1.3655669

trofirhen
Jun 28, 2016, 2:33 PM
Air Canada firms up deal for 45 Bombardier CSeries CS-300's with options for 30 more, hopefully this means we'll see lots of these at YVR!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-bombarder-1.3655669
These are usually for short to medium haul routes are they not? Maybe a couple of new routes to the USA, hopefully more.

connect2source
Jun 28, 2016, 3:08 PM
With a max range of 6112km, according to Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_CSeries, they could likely be deployed anywhere in N.A. or the Caribbean, I'm guessing some long and thin transcon routes could also be a possibility.

twoNeurons
Jun 28, 2016, 3:33 PM
With a max range of 6112km, according to Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_CSeries, they could likely be deployed anywhere in N.A. or the Caribbean, I'm guessing some long and thin transcon routes could also be a possibility.

Yes. It's a direct competitor to the 737-700 (http://planes.axlegeeks.com/compare/267-300/Boeing-737-700-vs-Bombardier-CS300). If those numbers are right, it consumes half as much fuel.

It will be interesting to see if we get uptake of these jets. Bombardier took on considerable risk but this category of jet can be a very lucrative sector, as the 737s are the workhorses of domestic fleets.

The difference is Greyhound Air operated a hub service in Winnipeg with a daily west-bound bank and a daily east bank.

Basically four of five aircraft would depart eastern Canada for Winnipeg. Arrive at around the same time permitting connection then depart for western Canada destination. The reverse would also happen in the opposite direction. I think it was Boeing 727 service. Pretty close to daily service. When laidlawy purchased Greyhound they pulled the plug on the service.

These guys appear to be flying from secondary airports to secondary airports with no real hub strategy.

Yes, it's an EasyJet/RyanAir/Allegiant Strategy. It's always nice to see more competition in the skies.

connect2source
Jun 28, 2016, 4:58 PM
Yes. It's a direct competitor to the 737-700 (http://planes.axlegeeks.com/compare/267-300/Boeing-737-700-vs-Bombardier-CS300)


As Air Canada doesn't operate the 737-700, I'm guessing they'll will replace their A319s and some A320s with the CS300's, the 737MAX-8's will replace the A321s and the remainder of the A320s as most ( A320s ) are from the early 1990's. Delta is using the majority of their CS100 orders to replace their MD-80 series planes.

SFUVancouver
Jun 28, 2016, 6:23 PM
Echoing Connect2Source, I expect that Air Canada's first order of CSeries will be primarily used by Rouge, in lieu of their 20 A319s, along with some mainline service as a replacement for the remaining A319s. Should Air Canada convert its remaining 30 options to firm orders, I expect that those would be used to phase out the Embraer E-Jets. Air Canada operates 25 of the 97-passenger E-190 (not including feeder Air Canada Express E-175 fleets) so an order of 30 CSeries would let them do a one-for-one replacement with room to grow. However, it would be quite a jump from the ~100-seat E-190 to the 135-seat CS300, so I could see Air Canada opting to convert its remaining 30 CSeries options into the 110-seat CS100. Then again, if the price is right, and the operating economics are what has been advertised, having the extra capacity at modest additional cost might still pencil for Air Canada and make up-gauging formerly E-190 routes to the CS300 capacity a strong commercial prospect. For example, the E-190 puts in regular multiple-daily YVR-LAX service and the times that I have been on that plane it's always been full. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I bet that there's a case to be made. Plus a standardized Air Canada CSeries fleet of CS300 aircraft maximizes their interchangeability and scheduling flexibility.

Air Canada's large order of 33 737Max-8 and 28 737Max-9s will let them replace their aging mainline A320 and A321 fleets, respectively, and expand domestic/transborder narrowbody service. Rouge's A321s are brand new, so I expect that those will be in service for years to come and more than a few of the younger A320s and A321s from mainline service will migrate through Rouge before being sold off for good.

Anyway, good to see Air Canada finalize the purchase of their first 45 CSeries. I'm looking forward to flying them in the years to come.

Canadian74
Jun 28, 2016, 6:58 PM
Is YVR-AKL daily ?

casper
Jun 28, 2016, 7:59 PM
As Air Canada doesn't operate the 737-700, I'm guessing they'll will replace their A319s and some A320s with the CS300's, the 737MAX-8's will replace the A321s and the remainder of the A320s as most ( A320s ) are from the early 1990's. Delta is using the majority of their CS100 orders to replace their MD-80 series planes.

New coverage from the time suggest the CS300 are being used to replace the Embraer fleet. All said, they usually make these decisions years before the aircraft is delivered. By the time they start to be delivered the economy can have changed and the business strategy may have changed.

I would guess Rogue will continue to get hand-me-downs in the form of A320 and A321. I could be wrong.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 28, 2016, 9:15 PM
Is YVR-AKL daily ?

Only during the peak winter so early December to late January.

The rest of the year it is 5 weekly during the summer and February and 4 weekly during the slower months.

NZ has been continually increasing the periods where they are daily or 5 weekly and gone are any periods when they are only 3 weekly.

LeftCoaster
Jun 28, 2016, 9:33 PM
Expect some positive news regarding:

Hainan to Tianjin (788s) - would be fantastic if this originates in Chongqing too.
Beijing Capital Airlines to Qingdao and Hangzhou (332s)

Most likely happening by the end of this year.

Stay tuned for updates.

Imagine.... 7 mainland Chinese Airlines flying into YVR.

That will also be 23 overseas passenger carriers flying into YVR as well. By far the second most of any airport in Canada except for YYZ of course! YVR will also most likely continue to be the fastest growing Canadian airport in 2016 as well. Both for overall growth and international passenger growth.

And there sounds like there may be more to come.... and not just from China perhaps.... :runaway:

Ahh you tease! :)

Any chance my YVR 2021 prediction had some validity to it? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7470767&postcount=9293

Either way good news about the two Chinese carriers, it had gone quite quiet, at least on the Beijing Capital front.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 28, 2016, 9:36 PM
Effective 1 December, Mexican nationals will no longer be required to have Visas to visit Canada, including TWOV.

This should help further Mexican originating travelers.

Possibly see new routes from GDL and MTY plus more capacity to MEX? Perhaps we will see Volaris? Interjet?

http://www.yvr.ca/en/media/news-releases/yvr-thrilled-to-see-visa-requirements-lifted-for-mexican-citizens

There also appears to be something developing with one of the Chinese carriers using YVR as a transit stop to MEX.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 28, 2016, 9:38 PM
Ahh you tease! :)

Any chance my YVR 2021 prediction had some validity to it? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=7470767&postcount=9293

Either way good news about the two Chinese carriers, it had gone quiet quiet, at least on the Beijing Capital front.

Ha ha.

2021 is only 5 years away.... Some of that looks very likely.

Hainan will most likely have to operate both routes until Beijing Capital gets ETOPS certified.

LeftCoaster
Jun 28, 2016, 10:08 PM
Effective 1 December, Mexican nationals will no longer be required to have Visas to visit Canada, including TWOV.

This should help boost further Mexican originating travelers.

Possibly see new routes from GDL and MTY plus more capacity to MEX? Perhaps we will see Volaris.

http://www.yvr.ca/en/media/news-releases/yvr-thrilled-to-see-visa-requirements-lifted-for-mexican-citizens

There also appears to be something developing with one of the Chinese carriers using YVR as a transit stop to MEX.

About damn time.

Using YVR as a MEX stop makes a lot of sense, especially when looking at the great circle route. My guess is it would be someone from the South of China, since PEK could easily make it without a stop. Maybe China Southern?

Either way should help keep the planes full and possibly provide some more frequencies. Would be nice to see Volaris or ViviAerobus up here too, they have pretty planes! :tup:

Ha ha.

2021 is only 5 years away.... Some of that looks very likely.

Hainan will most likely have to operate both routes until Beijing Capital gets ETOPS certified.

Ya 2021 seems awfully close, but with YVR stating they want to be at 25 million by 2020 this growth actually matches it, assuming the lions share of growth will be coming from Intl growth, as it has the last few years.

Interestingly enough if anything this doesn't quite match what would be needed for 2020 levels of 25 million PAX, given that winter would be lower, but it's pretty damn close.

trofirhen
Jun 28, 2016, 10:47 PM
Effective 1 December, Mexican nationals will no longer be required to have Visas to visit Canada, including TWOV.

This should help boost further Mexican originating travelers.

Possibly see new routes from GDL and MTY plus more capacity to MEX? Perhaps we will see Volaris.

http://www.yvr.ca/en/media/news-releases/yvr-thrilled-to-see-visa-requirements-lifted-for-mexican-citizens

There also appears to be something developing with one of the Chinese carriers using YVR as a transit stop to MEX.
Love to see GDL and MTY !!!! Both big cities, and Monterrey a financial centre.

Cage
Jun 28, 2016, 11:12 PM
Echoing Connect2Source, I expect that Air Canada's first order of CSeries will be primarily used by Rouge, in lieu of their 20 A319s, along with some mainline service as a replacement for the remaining A319s. Should Air Canada convert its remaining 30 options to firm orders, I expect that those would be used to phase out the Embraer E-Jets. Air Canada operates 25 of the 97-passenger E-190 (not including feeder Air Canada Express E-175 fleets) so an order of 30 CSeries would let them do a one-for-one replacement with room to grow. However, it would be quite a jump from the ~100-seat E-190 to the 135-seat CS300, so I could see Air Canada opting to convert its remaining 30 CSeries options into the 110-seat CS100. Then again, if the price is right, and the operating economics are what has been advertised, having the extra capacity at modest additional cost might still pencil for Air Canada and make up-gauging formerly E-190 routes to the CS300 capacity a strong commercial prospect. For example, the E-190 puts in regular multiple-daily YVR-LAX service and the times that I have been on that plane it's always been full. Anecdotal evidence, I know, but I bet that there's a case to be made. Plus a standardized Air Canada CSeries fleet of CS300 aircraft maximizes their interchangeability and scheduling flexibility.

Air Canada's large order of 33 737Max-8 and 28 737Max-9s will let them replace their aging mainline A320 and A321 fleets, respectively, and expand domestic/transborder narrowbody service. Rouge's A321s are brand new, so I expect that those will be in service for years to come and more than a few of the younger A320s and A321s from mainline service will migrate through Rouge before being sold off for good.

Anyway, good to see Air Canada finalize the purchase of their first 45 CSeries. I'm looking forward to flying them in the years to come.

The first 737max aircraft will be used to replace the mainline 321s. The mainline 321s will be used to replace rouge 319s on a 1:1 basis.

The 737max aircraft replace the 321 and 320 fleet with the 320s being broken up or returned to lessor to then be broken up. The first 10-15 320s require some serious computer upgrades to remain viable beyond 2020.

The CS300/100 order replaces the E90 and mainline 319 fleets with 2 aircraft for growth.

The CS300 would not be a good fit for rouge. Actually the 319s are not a good fit at present, AC only needs about 1/2 the rouge 319 fleet and could use a larger narrowbody aircraft for another 10 aircraft. This is why AC brought in 321s to rogue and retained 5 319s at mainline. This is also why rouge 763s are occaisionally used on the transborder to LAS/SFO/LAX (when SFO/LAX Western Canada was rouge flying).

You will see the CS300 on short haul routes where the E90 is currently flying. Once the 25 E90s are replaced, AC will have enough market data to determine where to place the remaining 20 aircraft.

The CS100/300 is a fantastic aircraft from an economy seat perspective, but its horrible from a business seat perspective. Consequently it is not expected to drive front cabin revenue. The unknown factor is whether the CS100/300 will drive traffic in the opposite direction (that is take business class flyers into the economy cabin).

connect2source
Jun 29, 2016, 2:17 AM
Great info Cage and SFUVancouver! Thanks!

What will become of the 5 most recent A321's Air Canada recently acquired from Air France? Is this just a stop-gap until the 737MAX-8 and 7's?

Johnny Aussie
Jun 29, 2016, 10:57 AM
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/267684/29jun16-update-philippine-airlines-w16-north-america-operation-changes/

PR is reinstating twice weekly terminator services on MNL-YVR.

Also PR increasing MNL-YVR-YYZ from three to four weekly.

So overall PR increases to 10 weekly (from 7 weekly) again beginning early December.

4 weekly on MNL-YVR-JFK-YVR-MNL
4 weekly on MNL-YVR-YYZ-YVR-MNL
2 weekly on MNL-YVR-MNL

All flights to be operated with 77Ws.

excel
Jun 29, 2016, 6:58 PM
My have missed this before but can you book direct tickets to and from YYZ and JFK to YVR without going or coming from MNL?

Johnny Aussie
Jun 29, 2016, 9:14 PM
My have missed this before but can you book direct tickets to and from YYZ and JFK to YVR without going or coming from MNL?

Only YVR-JFK. PR does not have local traffic rights between YVR-YYZ.

Today marks the first Qantas 744 of the summer season between SYD and YVR... Departs SYD at 1700 SYD time (midnight YVR time) and scheduled to arrive in YVR at 1405 on the 30th YVR time,

Johnny Aussie
Jun 29, 2016, 9:29 PM
Westjet kicks off its new seasonal domestic routes from YVR today and tomorrow.

Today - first flights to YXU and YHZ.
Tomorrow - the first flight to YHM.

LeftCoaster
Jun 29, 2016, 11:21 PM
My have missed this before but can you book direct tickets to and from YYZ and JFK to YVR without going or coming from MNL?

NYC has surprisingly good service from YVR.

You can fly to JFK on a Cathay 777-300, Philippines 777-300 or a Delta 737-800 and to EWR on an Air Canada dreamliner. Pretty solid options all around.

LeftCoaster
Jun 29, 2016, 11:22 PM
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/267684/29jun16-update-philippine-airlines-w16-north-america-operation-changes/

PR is reinstating twice weekly terminator services on MNL-YVR.

Also PR increasing MNL-YVR-YYZ from three to four weekly.

So overall PR increases to 10 weekly (from 7 weekly) again beginning early December.

4 weekly on MNL-YVR-JFK-YVR-MNL
4 weekly on MNL-YVR-YYZ-YVR-MNL
2 weekly on MNL-YVR-MNL

All flights to be operated with 77Ws.

So is this an increase from winter 2015 or a resumption of what they did last year?

Johnny Aussie
Jun 30, 2016, 2:48 AM
So is this an increase from winter 2015 or a resumption of what they did last year?

Last winter was 10 weekly (3 standalone, 4 went to JFK and 3 to YYZ)

The JFK flights were on A340s and the terminator and YYZ flights were 77Ws.

In March this year they dropped the terminator flights but upgauged JFK to 77Ws. This decreased the frequencies from 10 weekly to just daily.

So, in short, back to same frequencies but more capacity due to all 77Ws this winter.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 30, 2016, 9:07 AM
QF 75 departed a tad late.

ETA now 2:35pm

One World livery.

Have fun.

trofirhen
Jun 30, 2016, 10:19 AM
QF 75 departed a tad late.

ETA now 2:35pm

One World livery.

Have fun.
Love 'dat QANTAS livery !!! :tup:

excel
Jun 30, 2016, 7:20 PM
Won't be able to make it out there today :( Pictures please! :)

dharper
Jun 30, 2016, 10:01 PM
I live in North Surrey/Langley area. I was outside at 2:40PM, and I heard a large aircraft flying over head. At first it looked like a Qantas tail, but it was only a twin engine, I think it was a 777. It also had large black font name on the side of the fuselage. I wish I had my glasses on to read what it said, or to make out the tail. I am sure it wasn't Qantas, but without glasses, it definately resembled it.

SFUVancouver
Jun 30, 2016, 10:09 PM
I live in North Surrey/Langley area. I was outside at 2:40PM, and I heard a large aircraft flying over head. At first it looked like a Qantas tail, but it was only a twin engine, I think it was a 777. It also had large black font name on the side of the fuselage. I wish I had my glasses on to read what it said, or to make out the tail. I am sure it wasn't Qantas, but without glasses, it definately resembled it.

Qantas tails are bright red, but they run a 747 to YVR, so if it was a twin engine jet it wasn't theirs that you saw. I wonder whose it was? Air China, perhaps?

http://www.theurbanmum.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/747-400.jpg

https://img.planespotters.net/photo/203000/original/b-2085-air-china-boeing-777-39ler_PlanespottersNet_203828.jpg

dharper
Jun 30, 2016, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=SFUVancouver;7491157]Qantas tails are bright red, so it wasn't theirs that you saw.

I just looked at the YVR webcam, and the plane in question was Edelweiss, and coincidentally, it is parked beside the Qantas 747. And seeing them side by side, they look nothing alike, other than the tails are both a shade of red.

Johnny Aussie
Jun 30, 2016, 11:43 PM
I just looked at the YVR webcam, and the plane in question was Edelweiss, and coincidentally, it is parked beside the Qantas 747. And seeing them side by side, they look nothing alike, other than the tails are both a shade of red.

YVR webcam?!?!

Link please!!

Edit: found them! Wow never knew these existed... Awesome.

4 views... Although they look like they need to be cleaned!

http://www.metcam.navcanada.ca/lb/cameraSite.jsp?lang=e&id=202

****Sunwing Airlines Winter Changes****

Looks like YVR will see 18 departures per week. This is up 1 pw over last winter.

LeftCoaster
Jul 4, 2016, 10:16 PM
Hmm cleaned and maybe updated with a slightly more hi-res camera. What is this 2003?

JAL with some new codeshares, boosting their feed into the YVR route. Hopefully it will help push this one to a 787-900 or A350 eventually.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/267742/jal-expands-canadian-codeshare-routes-from-july-2016/

Also, AC cancelled their YYZ-Rio route from Oct 2016. This does not bode well for YVR's South American ambitions as clearly the economic and political issues in Brasil are having a material impact.

I'm still hopeful for a SCL-LIM-YVR route, as I think with mining finally coming out of their near decade long bear market it could be a strong route. LATAM Chile has a ton of new 787-8 and 787-9s that need to be deployed or some 767s that will be freed up by the new dreamliners that could easily make the LIM run and even the SCL in a pinch.

Genauso
Jul 5, 2016, 4:05 AM
Also, AC cancelled their YYZ-Rio route from Oct 2016. This does not bode well for YVR's South American ambitions as clearly the economic and political issues in Brasil are having a material impact.

I think Bogota, Colombia will end up being a network connection for YVR.

Genauso
Jul 5, 2016, 4:37 AM
http://i881.photobucket.com/albums/ac11/genauso/map_zpszvwewluf.gif

Here are some distances to major airports in South America and Africa from Bogota.

From To Initial
Heading Magnetic
Heading Distance
Total: 63,425 km
Average: 5,285 km

Show latitude and longitude
Show fractional heading

YVR BOG 6,747 km (Bogota, Colombia. #2 in South America, 25mn pax)

BOG JNB 11,481 km (Johannesburg. South Africa. 19mn pax)
BOG CMN 7,553 km (Casablanca, Morocco. 8mn pax)
BOG LOS 8,576 km (Lagos, Nigeria. 7.5mn pax)
BOG ALG 8,574 km (Algiers, Algeria. 6.5mn pax)

BOG GRU 4,326 km (1 of 2 major airports in Sao Paolo, Brazil. 36mn pax)
BOG BSB 3,677 km (Brasilia, Brazil. 16.5mn pax)
BOG SCL 4,231 km (Santiago, Chile. 15.2mn pax)
BOG LIM 1,879 km (Lima, Peru. 15.2 mn pax)
BOG CCS 1,023 km (Caracas, Venezuela. 12mn pax)
BOG AEP 4,648 km (Buenos Aires, Argentina. 9.6mn pax)
BOG UIO 710 km (Quito, Ecuador. 5.8mn pax)

Passenger numbers taken from the summary pages in Wikipedia because it was easy. I did mean to include Rio de Janeiro, but skip others intentionally just to give better coverage in the sample of possibilities. Maybe I should have included the Carribean and Central America too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_South_America

Genauso
Jul 5, 2016, 4:47 AM
Here's one more post, comparing travel to South Africa via Bogota as opposed to the current routes through Europe, which usually have monster layovers.

2 segment path:
YVR LON 7,611 km
LON JNB 9,038 km
16,650 km

2 segment path:
YVR FRA 8,087 km
FRA JNB 8,658 km
16,744 km

2 segment path:
YVR BOG 6,747 km
BOG JNB 11,481 km
18,228 km

3 segment path:
YVR BOG 6,747 km
BOG GRU 4,326 km
GRU JNB 7,451 km
18,524 km

Distance comparable, but potential for shorter legs (still along the circle routes) allows steadier volume and more convenient/frequent flights. Sub-Saharan Africa and South America ought to grow closer together into the future, given their populations and growth rates.

There will be denser connections in Mexico, Texas, Miami, Atlanta for YVR to access. I don't think Bogota will be transformative, just that it will be about the right distance, with the right domestic context (peace, growth), in the right spot, at the right time. I'm not sure that there is the right plane out there in a YVR fleet to serve a 7000km route, so maybe no YVR-BOG link but I still think Colombia will have a good couple decades to prosper and become a bigger hub for the region.

edit: for anyone else wondering. YVR-PTY (Panama, 7.8mn pax) is 6021km. YVR-SJO (Costa Rica, 3.8mn pax) is 5646km.

Klazu
Jul 5, 2016, 5:19 AM
Has anyone ever had the pleasure of on the way back from Europe being rerouted to take the eastern path around the world? My wife is currently only this journey, having missed her HEL-LHR-YVR connection due to weather in Finland. Apparently the BA A380 was fully booked on the next day (and there is only one connection per day), so they rerouted her through NRT instead! That's a nice 20 hours of flying with a 8 hours transit in Tokyo vs. 14 hours through London.

I am surprised that Finnair didn't reroute her through the US or another Canadian city, but I suppose One World connections to YVR are not the greatest. Perhaps the connection via JFK and then on Cathay was also sold out or would have made for a longer transit? Still quite strange and although I am sure it was nice to see Japan again, I would be flabbergasted having to fly all the way there to get here. :)

The only other option they had offered was through HKG, which is even less ideal. Go figure, but at least they rerouted her free of charge. If she would have happened to have Lufthansa flights this time around, I am not sure if she would have been so lucky, considering that the original domestic flight was on a Finnair subsidiary.

Quite a trip having to make a RTW to make it back. :)

mezzanine
Jul 5, 2016, 5:34 AM
^ my guess is that Finnair already had a lot of routes to asia (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-24/finnair-s-growth-plans-ready-nordic-carrier-for-consolidation) as they are trying to make themselves the gateway from Europe. Why go trasatlantic and rely on 1 One world partner (american via LAX or DFW, if BA is not an option), when you can get a likely more readily available flight from either HKG or japan? and FWIW, JAL/CX>>>>>American Airlines (insert poo emoji here)

casper
Jul 5, 2016, 5:52 AM
Has anyone ever had the pleasure of on the way back from Europe being rerouted to take the eastern path around the world? My wife is currently only this journey, having missed her HEL-LHR-YVR connection due to weather in Finland. Apparently the BA A380 was fully booked on the next day (and there is only one connection per day), so they rerouted her through NRT instead! That's a nice 20 hours of flying with a 8 hours transit in Tokyo vs. 14 hours through London.
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Lots of One world options: BA flies into several Canadian cities including Calgary. They also fly into Seattle as well as California. BA and American code share on the connecting WestJet flight and Alaska airline flights. Cathay Pacific also has the red-eye flight from JFK to Vancouver that connects with a good number of flights from Europe. That all assumes there is available space. That could be the problem.

mezzanine
Jul 5, 2016, 5:55 AM
Came across this. If Turkish and Thai airways will make a decision soon about serving the Pacific northwest, this would be important. Even AC would be able to get a leg up by adding new feeder flights to YVR from the USA and eat a bit more of Delta's connection passenger lunch in the next 2-3 year window.





EXCLUSIVE: Delta won't add international routes until new Sea-Tac terminal is built



Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) would add new international routes to Seattle right now if it could. Instead, the airline probably won’t make any of those moves until late 2019.

In an interview this week, Delta CEO Ed Bastian said his airline is “facility-constrained” at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, because of congestion as people move through customs.

The current receiving area for international passengers, built more than 30 years ago at the airport’s South Satellite, gets extremely congested at midday peak periods, as travelers try to squeeze through customs.

“It would be difficult to bring more international traffic flow at this time,” Bastian said. “There’s a limit to how long customers can wait to clear.”

Congestion at the facility didn’t stop China’s Xiamen Airlines from announcing a new route to Shenzhen this week.

Bastian said Delta won’t subject its own passengers to that type of squeeze.

“When the facility comes online, that will support growth,” he said, adding that the airline sees more “opportunities” in Asia, as well as Mexico and Latin America.

The Port of Seattle wants to fix the problem as rapidly as possible, and is planning groundbreaking for a new $608 million International Arrivals Facility in the fourth quarter of this year, said Sea-Tac Spokesman Perry Cooper. The building is supposed to be done at the end of 2019.

“If Delta feels they want to wait until new facility come up, there are probably other airlines feeling the same thing,” Cooper said. “We more than realize the capacity constraints in our current facility can be a factor in airlines' decisions, so that’s why we want to get this project up and going.”




http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2016/05/13/exclusive-delta-wont-add-international-routes.html

mezzanine
Jul 5, 2016, 6:02 AM
Lots of One world options: BA flies into several Canadian cities including Calgary. They also fly into Seattle as well as California. BA and American code share on the connecting WestJet flight and Alaska airline flights. Cathay Pacific also has the red-eye flight from JFK to Vancouver that connects with a good number of flights from Europe. That all assumes there is available space. That could be the problem.

Huh! I forgot about the cathay JFK-YVR flight. HEL-JFK-YVR would've been a cool alternate route. (oops, also didn't read Klazu's consideration of the route in his first post)

I know that for AC, their preference for IROP bookings (https://www.aircanada.com/en/agents_na/reference/documents/Irregular_Operations.pdf) is to make AC/Star alliance rebookings a higher priority and non-alliance code share bookings a lower priority.

trofirhen
Jul 5, 2016, 4:38 PM
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LeftCoaster
Jul 5, 2016, 9:51 PM
Came across this. If Turkish and Thai airways will make a decision soon about serving the Pacific northwest, this would be important. Even AC would be able to get a leg up by adding new feeder flights to YVR from the USA and eat a bit more of Delta's connection passenger lunch in the next 2-3 year window.

Hmm sounds like good news for YVR, and gives them a few years breathing room to further bolster their gateway status.

I expect YVR to move soon on their next round of expansion as they have traditionally been quite on the ball with their capacity, and I would be surprised if they let themselves get in the position SEA is in.

LeftCoaster
Jul 5, 2016, 9:54 PM
I think Bogota, Colombia will end up being a network connection for YVR.

Bogota is definitely a strong coentender. The economy is booming in Colombia right now and Avianca is *A.

I flew the YVR-BOG leg last year and it was a huge hassle. YVR-YYZ-BOG there and BOG-PTY-IAH-YVR on the way back. At least I contributed to the O&D stats? :rolleyes: