[sactivity]

my opinion about sacramento was not intended. it was a play of words from above. sorry for the misunderstanding. i did not intend to be personal about sacramento, or your likes or dislikes for that matter. the comparison with the BV towers was engaging, because though the towers have some similarities it brought up a dialog about style and form. these forums definitely are rarely ever used to analyze form, whether vernacular or academic. you are also very accurate about artist's renderings - they hardly ever represent and at times are not very aspiring either.

That's cool! And I see you've edited the play-on-words as well. Thanks!

[crow]

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e231/kwand/899318c2.jpg

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
Excellent!!! :rock:

[JiminyCricket II]

^^

Wow!!

[MrVandelay]

That is sooo cool!

[northface]

udshhdfhdsholy molyyy bellevue is going to be amazing~

[Method101]

my goodness those are tall....and to think they wanted to make them bigger...but that just looks awesome

[Seattleguy]

Crow,
Thanks!! That photo you created is amazing.

[sactivity]

Wow

[stockjock98004]

It's just a shame that view might not be there if Kemper Freeman builds Lincoln Square II in front of the Bellevue Towers on the current Safeway site.

[Skian]

The current Safeway building is approx to the left of the left tower.

[stockjock98004]

Actually, I'm looking out my window at both the BT site and Safeway. Looking east, the current store is probably somewhat left of where the south tower will be. However, depending on the configuration of Lincoln Square II it could (but doesn't need to) go all the way to NE 4th to place it directly west of the BT project.

The current Safeway building is approx to the left of the left tower.

[bgwah]

Looking good. It's almost like a mini Central Park with all those buildings around the Bellevue Park.

[horatio_the_hermit]

Crow, Just when i think youve given us the best renderings possible, you top it. Even though this isnt really a new rendering, its awesome and is now my wallpaper.

[Fulham]

Took a few pictures with my phone at lunch. Here's the progress at Puget Power/Bellevue Towers site. Not much left of Puget Power.
http://somerden.com/f52ae/BellevueTowers10March2006.JPG

[MrVandelay]

^^^^
Wow, Great photo!

[northface]

interesting article and rendering...
http://eastsidebusiness.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=652&Itemid=43

[destroybananas]

^interesting. They show the rendering of the towers which are very different than the current renderings.

[crow]

yeah, those are pretty old. you can't trust many of the rags. :)

[horatio_the_hermit]

uh oh. Site update coming when. May 2006.
thats the latest addition to the site.
wow.

[horatio_the_hermit]

bellevuetowers.com being "the site"

[mSeattle]

That montage is sweet! And just like that, it's a whole new skyline. Got any from the east or 405 north/south?

[Method101]

That montage is sweet! And just like that, it's a whole new skyline. Got any from the east or 405 north/south?

yeah that would be pretty sweet, esp with the new city centers on it as well. Drove by the site today, its amazing how much progress they have made on the site.

[needsalife]

I drove by today as well, its insane! I think they're going to start laying some kind of foundation, when I passed there was army of cement trucks around the site. Also the cranes at Washington Square were busy as well. I took some pictures from the top of the Bellesquare parking garage. and Bellevue really has a beautiful skyline, its good to know its only getting better. I'll post the pics up tomorrow.

[architect1]

I like

[crow]

i have heard the cranes are going up in june, and the sales office across the street will open in july. can't wait to see those cranes and towers in the skyline!

[destroybananas]

I can't to see those cranes too. It's pretty exciting.

[mSeattle]

Bgwah, where are the pictures? :)

[destroybananas]

They're still digging mSeattle hehe

[northface]

when do the cranes go up?

[horatio_the_hermit]

i have heard the cranes are going up in june, and the sales office across the street will open in july. can't wait to see those cranes and towers in the skyline!

yeah, i beleive the above will answer your question.

[northface]

oops thanks!

[horatio_the_hermit]

that hole is getting deep. I was walking by yesterday and i walked up to those observation lookouts at one bellevue center, looking right over the construction. Quite a sight. You can see the avalon safeway, bellevue towers, eddie bauer building, and washington square all from one lookout.

[MrVandelay]

that hole is getting deep. I was walking by yesterday and i walked up to those observation lookouts at one bellevue center, looking right over the construction. Quite a sight. You can see the avalon safeway, bellevue towers, eddie bauer building, and washington square all from one lookout.


Observation lookout? Is that inside one Bellevue center? What floor? open to public?

[Fulham]

Observation lookout? Is that inside one Bellevue center? What floor? open to public?
No. It's "107th ave NE". Bellevue's trying to establish a pedestrian walkway behind the skyscrapers on 108th, and the one behind OBC has little bumpouts to enjoy the view.

[horatio_the_hermit]

precisely.
Theyre quite nice. And that area combined with the symetrqa tower outside area is really quite nice. Very few people however.

[James Bond Agent 007]

that hole is getting deep. I was walking by yesterday and i walked up to those observation lookouts at one bellevue center, looking right over the construction. Quite a sight. You can see the avalon safeway, bellevue towers, eddie bauer building, and washington square all from one lookout.
Yeah I was there today. Great viewing spot!

[horatio_the_hermit]

http://home.comcast.net/~rpgfankirk/model6_copy.jpg

Thank Needsalife for this beauty. Originally posted in a bellevue photo thread.

[needsalife]

Haha, thanks. I should've posted it in this forum earlier. If you want any more views, just ask. I just added some more buildings and have been tweeking the heights a bit. I need to get started on the outsides of the buildings though, and with all the action happening in Seattle I'm getting tempted to start its model, but I have to finish Bellevue first.

[SeattleHusky82]

That's awesome. One complaint though....the Euro Tower is a block too far north. Which buildings did u add? I noticed the Vue Hanover, City Center II, Summit C, and 1020 weren't included yet. Other than that, it looks great. Good look with creating a Seattle model, there are so many proposals that I'm starting to lose track!

[needsalife]

I just added the 1020 and the Vue Hanover and the performing arts center. I'm not 100% on the locations or the floorplans of the city center 2 or the Summit(its basically a box so it shouldn't be a problem). If you know where they will be that would be a great help.

And you caught me on the European tower, it seemed a bit out of place to me as well...I guess i'll add and image of the new version soon.

[Method101]

yeah, bellevue really needs some height, but very impressive, props.

[horatio_the_hermit]

neesdalfie. Could you possibly post a rendering with all those additions and revisions. And angle will do.

[needsalife]

Ask and you shall receive

Here's an overview of the additions
http://home.comcast.net/~rpgfankirk/modelv2-5_copy.jpg

Hes the corner of 108th and 10th, it's going to be a busy corner
http://home.comcast.net/~rpgfankirk/modelv2-3_copy.jpg

This one has City Center II on the right (is it really going to be 137 meters like Emporis says?) Summit building C on the lower left, and 4 bellevue center in the middle with the tan top.
http://home.comcast.net/~rpgfankirk/MODELcorner.jpg

And one more final overview of the city
http://home.comcast.net/~rpgfankirk/MODELback.jpg

Blast, now I'm done with the easy part...onto the outside renders I guess

[James Bond Agent 007]

Wow, great job!!!!!

[horatio_the_hermit]

nice. City center II was scaled down from 32 to 26 stories. I think. Not sure of exact height.

[WolverineFan]

4 Bellevue Center? This is a new one to me. Is that going to replace Good Guys, next to the Galleria? When are they planning to start?

[James Bond Agent 007]

I think 4 Bellevue Center is a ways off from actually being built.

[M'sFan]

Could someone compile a list of projects in Bellevue and status? I am pretty familiar with those in Seattle, but Bellevue is getting difficult for me to follow. Thanks a ton!

[destroybananas]

hey that's awesome needsalife, thanks for working on that.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Could someone compile a list of projects in Bellevue and status? I am pretty familiar with those in Seattle, but Bellevue is getting difficult for me to follow. Thanks a ton!
There's a Bellevue thread in the City Compilations section which has a list of projects:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=79987

[M'sFan]

Thanks, dude!

[WolverineFan]

This is going to be one big hole.....
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/RandyLucas425/P5048324.jpg

[bgwah]

Nice to see some progress. I can't imagine two 450 towers there, even with the renderings!

[horatio_the_hermit]

i was in new york last week. I was talking about bellevue with some guy from boston. He had actually heard of this project, i didnt ask how.

[destroybananas]

^It doesn't surprise me, it is a big project after all.

[horatio_the_hermit]

oh, and i just checked the website. It said "update june 2006". Up untill a while ago it said may.

[urbanlife]

mighty big hole you got there.

[pablo]

that sucks :-( i was looking forward to getting more info this month! they've given a rather broad price range of $400-$1200 a square foot.

[jsanford]

The info they give shows $400,000+, and isn't on a per square foot basis. This project will not have anything priced at $400 a square foot, and with WS being $700-$800 a square foot, this project will probably have alot of really expensive units to sell.

[horatio_the_hermit]

anyone up for compiling a comparison chart of ppsf on some of the new projects going up.

[jsanford]

Its gonna be difficult to do that, because the marketing companies hold that information.

[horatio_the_hermit]

a lot of it has been released though. Ive heard certain numbers mentioned for almost all projects.

[pablo]

just quoting what the sales person said. I thought it was funny that he said 400-1200 :-) rather laaaaaaaaarge range, plus i didn't think you'd be able to find any new condo development of that quality in the 400psf range. :)

[crow]

yeah i think the 400/sf is for the lower podium, but i suspect it will be high on the 400, more like 475/sf. i also wouldn't be surprised if the upper levels 39 and up go for closer to 2000/sf!!!!!

[WolverineFan]

Here is another picture of the hole....dig, dig, dig. They have a long way to go......

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/RandyLucas425/P5298471.jpg

[WolverineFan]

After looking again at the photo of the hole I took a month ago.... Well, they are going to be digging for quite a bit longer......

[MrVandelay]

I thought I remember someone saying that the cranes would be going up on the site in June. Does anyone know if that is still going to happen next month, or are they falling behind?

[MrVandelay]

Some construction update photos I took tonight..

http://www.mytravellinks.com/skyscrapercity/post5/DSC03655f.jpg

http://www.mytravellinks.com/skyscrapercity/post5/DSC03656f.jpg

[pablo]

June 14th and still no updates to the website! Grrr....

[destroybananas]

^I wonder what the hell is taking so long?

[pablo]

June 21st and still no news! I wonder if they're going to update their website to say updates to come in July! LOL

Does anyone have any info on this???

[pablo]

tic, tic, tic...waiting for them to change the date on their website to say Update to come on July 2006! :-(

[James Bond Agent 007]

^
I think maybe you should give it up. :D

[horatio_the_hermit]

these guys make me angry. So do the people at the bravern. Not updating their site. And the people building the 1020 tower, what the hell. And the people doing avalon meydenbauer. How long is that site going to be "under construction"

[MrVandelay]

these guys make me angry. So do the people at the bravern. Not updating their site. And the people building the 1020 tower, what the hell. And the people doing avalon meydenbauer. How long is that site going to be "under construction"

Obviously they don't have someone to get after these guys doing their web sites :whip:

[horatio_the_hermit]

AAAAAAAAAHHH!!!!

Check the website. FINALLY!

[pablo]

Yeah! but looks like the sites down...

[MrVandelay]

http://www.bellevuetowers.com/

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[bgwah]

^Works for me.

Wow, it will have a great view.

[needsalife]

Hmmmmm site cam coming in September, thats probably when we'll start to see some real action. Nice site though, and yes, the views will be outstanding.

[Fulham]

Looks like they've finished digging, at least in the western half of the hole. There's some concrete being poured in there now. Maybe for a crane?

Seems like all the dumptrucks have moved over to the Bravern. There was a line of 5 of them in front of my bus this morning.

Where is all of Bellevue's soil being put?

[Last Chance]

Where is all of Bellevue's soil being put?

Factoria hopefully.:D

[WolverineFan]

Bellevue Towers as of Saturday, July 8th.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j73/RandyLucas425/DSC00442.jpg

[MrVandelay]

^^^^^ I think we've been duped. The bellevue towers is actually just going to be a giant pit for motocross. :D Thanks for posting the update photo!

[SeattleHusky82]

The base for the first crane has been installed, we'll probably see the crane rise by the end of this week!

[horatio_the_hermit]

its going to be white. Im not sure if theyll need two cranes untill the foundation is complete. That lot is too small for two regular cranes. Looks like theyll be doing it NY Style.

[Last Chance]

^^^^^ I think we've been duped. The bellevue towers is actually just going to be a giant pit for motocross. :D

Looks more like they already held a monster truck race there a couple Sunday, Sunday, Sundays ago...:)

[crow]

they have poured concrete for the mat footing, and have set one base for the north tower crane. the second crane base will be 2 weeks after...!! go bellevue towers! the showroom, which is located across the street on the top floor will open after labor day weekend - be sure to check it out - it will be very snazzy.

[James Bond Agent 007]

They're starting to install the cranes.

[pablo]

does anyone have any insight on whether these units will cost more or less than washington square?:worship:

[mhays]

does anyone have any insight on whether these units will cost more or less than washington square?:worship:

Yes, they will cost more or less than Washington Square.

Hell if I know. I'm guessing they'll be pricey.

[Rondo1]

does anyone have any insight on whether these units will cost more or less than washington square?:worship:

I think you can be guaranteed that they will cost more. For one they will open AFTER Washington Square does. The excitement from those sales will fuel the sales of BT. Couple that with the fact that this will be the first "twin tower" all-condo 43-story facility (dang that sounds cool, don't it?:) ) You can certainly be sure that as you jump in floors -- especially those that will be higher than Washington Square and offer better views of the Cascades, Mt. Rainier, and Seattle / Puget Sound / Olympics -- the prices will go nearly through the roof. The more Bellevue grows, (and as long as the economy continues to grow), the more it will become a place that people want to live. That will drive demand, and demand means higher prices. That will continue until the prices reach a point were even some of the wealthier no longer want to pay the price. Thats when construction will pull back and we'll go through the same old cycle of there being more space than people interested in buying. Prices will drop to match those of the unsold units that aren't selling - including additional pricing specials, deals on mortgages, free or cheaper amenities, etc that will be offered to sell them until things even out. Over time, sales will start to pick up again. Then there will be a shortage of housing and prices will start to rise. Developers will come and start building again...... get it? Cycles. It will always happen. The bummer is that as we wait for this to happen, we age! What fun is that? Dammit there's always a catch! :-)

[horatio_the_hermit]

Actually, I do some work for downtown real estate agents and i can say that Bellevue Towers will average about 200$psf more than WA Square. And Bellevue Towers will have gargantuan penthouses which will add to their perceived prestige.

[MrVandelay]

The crane for Bellevue Towers went up today! :cheers: Sorry no photos right now, but If someone doesn't post any by the end of the weekend, I'll try to get some up.

[horatio_the_hermit]

White Crane?
Lame.
Unimpressive.

[northface]

^its a crane...who cares?

[jsanford]

n/a

[Fulham]

There will be a red one going up soon too.

[horatio_the_hermit]

well, we can assume that in similar projects with similar amenities, the smallest units with views that cannot really be differentiated will have similar pricing. But as units go up in elevation the gap between Wa square and Bellevue towers widens (not only because of sheer height).