[Boizean]

The development under way at 29th and State WILL be a dollar store.
You've got to be kidding me, dollar stores SUCK! What useless retail (IMO). "Spend a Buck For Some Junk!" :hell:

[Cottonwood]

You've got to be kidding me, dollar stores SUCK! What useless retail (IMO). "Spend a Buck For Some Junk!" :hell:

Dollar Stores do suck. Remember Mayor Coles assistant from the city hall money scandal? (I cannot remember his name). But he was pretty much banished from Boise to Provo and opened a Dollar Store with his family to support themselves. Now that would suck to have to move south of the border and open a dollar store because your reputation was ruined in Boise:haha:

Off topic here, but I thought that Mayor Coles was great and really did a lot for Boise. It is too bad that he turned out to be dishonest. He would have put those Boise Guardian peeps in place!

[Boizean]

I vaguely remember the scandal but...

...have to move south of the border and open a dollar store because your reputation was ruined in Boise.

:lmao:

[BoisEng]

You've got to be kidding me, dollar stores SUCK! What useless retail (IMO). "Spend a Buck For Some Junk!" :hell:

I was just trying to think of something worse than a dollar store and could only come up with "crack house" and "payday loan outlet". Yes, I think that's the order:
Crack house
Payday loan center
Dollar Store
;)

[nobody]

I don't understand how a dollar store can even be profitable. It'd seem like you'd need an insane amount of volume to even pay wages, let alone pay your lease, utilities, law-suits when someone dies from eating dollar caviar, etc.

Great addition to the area!

[Boizean]

I was just trying to think of something worse than a dollar store and could only come up with "crack house" and "payday loan outlet". Yes, I think that's the order:
Crack house
Payday loan center
Dollar Store
;)
Payday loan centers, good point...

I helped out a neighbor once that was in dire financial trouble. We did what we could to assist her until she paid off her loan to one of these places. Our assistance was under the condition that she would never ever visit or use one of these types of "Payday Loan Center" businesses again. I showed her that she was paying well over 1000% in interest! Cold hard facts. These places prey on the poor and should be driven out of town. Greedy schmucks! :hell:

[Props]

I think Boise's old Chief of Staff's name was Gary Lyman.

Dollar stores and short term loan businesses are as opportunistic as any noxious weed (and about as hard to control). It's too bad one sprouted on that lot. Next time any of you are out in Kuna, take a look at their new dollar store and that big red internally illuminated sign nestled in amongst old residential structures.

[BoiseIdahoan]

If it makes any one feel better, These dollar stores usually only last a year or two it seems and then go out of business. Secondly they will put a cheap cinder block building up that will be easy to bulldoze. So when the city of Boise finally gets there act together on that neighborhood, nice condos or retail will sprout up in it place. We just have to wait awhile. And personally I drive by that corner everyday and I think there were crack houses on that property a year ago or they very nearly were. So it is small improvement but not what is needed.

[BOI-IDA]

You've got to be kidding me, dollar stores SUCK! What useless retail (IMO). "Spend a Buck For Some Junk!" :hell:
Dollar stores do suck, but we're talking about Family Dollar here. They are a step up from your average dollar store, such as Honk's or Dollar Tree. They are more of a discount retailer, such as King's. They carry very few "dollar" items. (Yes, I do shop there from time to time.)

Next time any of you are out in Kuna, take a look at their new dollar store and that big red internally illuminated sign nestled in amongst old residential structures.
I live in Kuna and agree with you. That is a poor location for any type of retail.

[Boizean]

Next time any of you are out in Kuna, take a look at their new dollar store and that big red internally illuminated sign nestled in amongst old residential structures.
I've been by there several times. Sticks out like a sore thumb.

Dollar stores do suck, but we're talking about Family Dollar here. They are a step up from your average dollar store, such as Honk's or Dollar Tree. They are more of a discount retailer, such as King's. They carry very few "dollar" items. (Yes, I do shop there from time to time.)

Never been to a Family Dollar store so this is good to hear. I've shopped at King's before in Nampa and it's not even close to being the same as a dollar store. Since you mentioned King's, it reminds me of the downstairs toy department. As a young lad (many many years ago) I always enjoyed walking or riding my bike to King's in Twin Falls, which is right downtown on Main St., then exploring all the aisles of toys. Dreamland for a kid it was. Not quite the same these days.

[Boizean]

Okay, since I just updated the list and images on the first page that means new information should be forth coming today. :fingerscrossed:
Seems like it never fails.

[BOI-IDA]

Since you mentioned King's, it reminds me of the downstairs toy department. As a young lad (many many years ago) I always enjoyed walking or riding my bike to King's in Twin Falls, which is right downtown on Main St., then exploring all the aisles of toys. Dreamland for a kid it was. Not quite the same these days.
Likewise, I remember going to King's as a kid. We went to the one that used to be at Franklin & Orchard where Fred Meyer now stands.

As an adult, I shopped at the one in Caldwell quite frequently. That is, until they decided to get rid of their downstairs pet department.:(

Sadly, the arrival of evil Wal-Mart stores seems to have doomed many King's locations.

[boisecynic]

Did anyone catch the groundbreaking at The Jefferson? I went there with my camera and guess what, the camera battery was back home in the charger where I left it.

Anyway there were about 50 or 60 people including city councilors Tibbs, Jordan and Bisterfeldt. I didn't see any mainstream media types, nor have I seen anything in today's news.

Work has begun, I can testify. They have cleared the trees and shrubs on that lot, sad, but once all is said and done, that corner will look much better. I noticed the planting strip (4th St side) has only one class III tree with room for 2 more and it was also full of dandelions. Hopefully they'll fix that tad bit of ugliness as a part of the project.

Speaking of trees, today is Arbor Day. Releaf Boise tree planting day is tomorrow. City of Boise's urban forestry department would probably like you to volunteer to plant trees in the ROWs. Most of them in the north end. Show up at their shop at 4969 Dorman at 8:30 AM, tomorrow.

Would help if you had:

pickup truck
shovel
pulaski or pick
digging bar
tarp
pruners
knife
rake
strong back
youthful vigor

[nobody]

Took the bike out in the awesome weather tonight.

A quick run-down of what's happening in Boise, late April 2007. I know I missed a couple. I may go back out this weekend if there are any requests. I know I suck at photography, deal with it!

Link to Flickr Photo Set (http://flickr.com/photos/joshuaisneat/sets/72157600144741123/)

Stuff that is actually happening:

Bella is coming along nicely
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/475178331_9fdcbdbd8c.jpg

Royal Plaza is not on fire
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/475178489_a203e0c4b6.jpg

The Jefferson recently broke ground
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/194/475179513_3c6f087991.jpg

Whatever that loft conversion on 8th is called is looking great.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/475178057_f2e920d094.jpg

Our Legislature now meets in a mound of dirt.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/475177401_0fb1781333.jpg

They broke down on the Paradigm. If this neighborhood builds up like this it will be so awesome. I'm super excited about this one and the future of the couple of blocks surrounding it.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/190/475178187_7cafae81cb.jpg

Pretty crazy that this is all going to be glass and sexy. This picture will look ridiculously dated in a few years.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/179/475178625_a5438ccd02.jpg

Whatever those Apartments/Condos on Grand are called
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/225/475177569_2f55af807b.jpg

Boise State parking structure. WOOOOOO.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/475179359_5acaa77477.jpg

Loft Conversion. Grey Lofts? I can not remember the name of this place.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/475179197_41f0ab5328.jpg

CitySide I and II. II in the Foreground obviously. Looks real nice up close.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/475169350_781d6bcbf2.jpg

And now for some less happy stuff:

I hear they are putting a 90 STORY ROCKET SHIP WITH LASER BEAMS HERE!!!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/475179083_b0c8481e2a.jpg

Sadly the Met was recently downgraded to a dirt parking lot and a shack.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/214/475169026_44315cb88b.jpg

I really want to see Capital Terrace happen.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/475170660_f859a04b0e.jpg

And that ends our tour. Sorry for the crappy pics, I've been meaning to do this for weeks so I kinda rushed it today before the sun set.

[alphawolf]

The hell you suck. Those are fucking great.

[el conquistador]

The hell you suck. Those are fucking great.


Ditto, those are great pics. Makes you realize more is going on in Boise, regardless of the curse of the rebar farm.......

[Boise Preservation]

Hey all, I've been paying attention to this site for quite some time and finally decided that I needed to introduce myself and speak up. As my name implies, I approach the issues of downtown livability and density from the angle of what is best for the history of our beautiful city and the state. This doesn't mean that I think the concepts of urbanization and new development are wrong, but I strongly feel that a city can only remain vibrant if it recognizes the value inherent in its history and older architecture. For the most part I see things from the perspective that the rest of you do, but occasionally I disagree. Since I follow these issues pretty religiously, I have quite a few contacts and sources of information. I hope I can share my insight and perspective from time to time.

Now that I've introduced myself, I'm going to add my two cents about a couple recent posts.

First, I've got to speak up about the Paradigm site. While that neighborhood has certainly seen better days, it still retains many of the key homes that originally defined it. I find it hard to believe that in a downtown core practically gagging on empty, undeveloped parking lots, a developer can't find property where the buildings aren't eligible for the National Register of Historic Places. By no means are all of those houses "horrible" "run-down ramshackle shacks". Pay closer attention next time you're down there, and you'll see some buildings that would rival any on Warm Springs, Harrison or other parts of the North and East ends. Why should we protect these buildings in one place and fight over who gets to demolish them first in another? The only thing I can say to summarize is that I hope the Paradigm actually gets built now that it's eliminated more of Boise's history.

Secondly, does anyone else question the brick color choice on the O.W. Smith Building (R. Grey Lofts) at 8th and Myrtle. Why the hell would they choose a color that doesn't even belong in the same palette with the bricks on the original building? Their design decisions are questionable to say the least.

Well, there you have it, my first post. I'm opinionated and passionate about my interests. Thanks everyone for supplying the kind of dialogue I can really appreciate!

[Props]

I hear they are putting a 90 STORY ROCKET SHIP WITH LASER BEAMS HERE!!!

I've always wanted a 90 story rocketship in downtown Boise! With lasers! Somehow this seems like the perfect emoticon these days any time Boise's "Little Dig" on that site comes up: :Titanic:

Sorry, I'm feeling a little cynical today.

[nobody]

Secondly, does anyone else question the brick color choice on the O.W. Smith Building (R. Grey Lofts) at 8th and Myrtle. Why the hell would they choose a color that doesn't even belong in the same palette with the bricks on the original building? Their design decisions are questionable to say the least.

The bricks were originally painted sort of yellow. They blasted the paint off I think after they'd started putting up the other brick. They may have just not been aware of the true color.

Agreed that it does look kind of off, but I am fairly certain that it could have been much worse.

[boisecynic]

I guess this was directed at me;

Hey all, I've been paying attention to this site for quite some time and finally decided that I needed to introduce myself and speak up. As my name implies, I approach the issues of downtown livability and density from the angle of what is best for the history of our beautiful city and the state. This doesn't mean that I think the concepts of urbanization and new development are wrong, but I strongly feel that a city can only remain vibrant if it recognizes the value inherent in its history and older architecture. For the most part I see things from the perspective that the rest of you do, but occasionally I disagree. Since I follow these issues pretty religiously, I have quite a few contacts and sources of information. I hope I can share my insight and perspective from time to time.

Now that I've introduced myself, I'm going to add my two cents about a couple recent posts.

First, I've got to speak up about the Paradigm site. While that neighborhood has certainly seen better days, it still retains many of the key homes that originally defined it. I find it hard to believe that in a downtown core practically gagging on empty, undeveloped parking lots, a developer can't find property where the buildings aren't eligible for the National Register of Historic Places. By no means are all of those houses "horrible" "run-down ramshackle shacks". Pay closer attention next time you're down there, and you'll see some buildings that would rival any on Warm Springs, Harrison or other parts of the North and East ends. Why should we protect these buildings in one place and fight over who gets to demolish them first in another? The only thing I can say to summarize is that I hope the Paradigm actually gets built now that it's eliminated more of Boise's history.

Secondly, does anyone else question the brick color choice on the O.W. Smith Building (R. Grey Lofts) at 8th and Myrtle. Why the hell would they choose a color that doesn't even belong in the same palette with the bricks on the original building? Their design decisions are questionable to say the least.

Well, there you have it, my first post. I'm opinionated and passionate about my interests. Thanks everyone for supplying the kind of dialogue I can really appreciate!

Thanks for joining the fray, that was quite an essay for a web forum. I'm going to try to briefly respond to some of your points, but I'm tired, I planted 9 trees today as part of the releaf Boise event. What did you do today to make the city a better place?

First, my rant the other day about the Paradigm Site was directed to the reporter Kate Brusse and her choice of words, like home instead of house or rental, and razed instead of demolished, and condo instead of new homes. Her writing style was sensationalistic and sensationalism is tantamount to lying in my opinion. Indeed, I've think I've noticed a more sensational style to the Statesman lately. Didn't they recently get new ownership?

Second, I disagree that any of those houses can be compared to Warm Springs or Harrison. They are surrounded by an Interstate Highway extension, Front and Myrtle. It's much more noisy and busy and thus less desirable than the aforementioned streets. WS Ave. and Harrison also have much larger setbacks than any of the streets in the Winco/Discovery Center neighborhood.

Third, "why can't developers find..." you asked, you really think they aren't trying? Parking lots are not up for sale because---they are moneymakers, the owners have little incentive to sell. Old rentals near a very busy road are not good money makers. Old houses need a lot of annoying maintenance. Old rentals attract tenants that move out and leave the place thrashed every 6 months or so.

[logicskier]

I guess this was directed at me;



Thanks for joining the fray, that was quite an essay for a web forum. I'm going to try to briefly respond to some of your points, but I'm tired, I planted 9 trees today as part of the releaf Boise event. What did you do today to make the city a better place?

First, my rant the other day about the Paradigm Site was directed to the reporter Kate Brusse and her choice of words, like home instead of house or rental, and razed instead of demolished, and condo instead of new homes. Her writing style was sensationalistic and sensationalism is tantamount to lying in my opinion. Indeed, I've think I've noticed a more sensational style to the Statesman lately. Didn't they recently get new ownership?

Second, I disagree that any of those houses can be compared to Warm Springs or Harrison. They are surrounded by an Interstate Highway extension, Front and Myrtle. It's much more noisy and busy and thus less desirable than the aforementioned streets. WS Ave. and Harrison also have much larger setbacks than any of the streets in the Winco/Discovery Center neighborhood.

Third, "why can't developers find..." you asked, you really think they aren't trying? Parking lots are not up for sale because---they are moneymakers, the owners have little incentive to sell. Old rentals near a very busy road are not good money makers. Old houses need a lot of annoying maintenance. Old rentals attract tenants that move out and leave the place thrashed every 6 months or so.


:tup:

[boisepicture]

There was an article in IBR today about the Banner Bank building and it looks like two out of state companies decided to open Boise offices after hearing the developer talk about the building. That's pretty amazing and leads me to believe that further downtown green building will create more economic development. Granted they could have already been planning Boise offices, but I got the impression they opened offices because of the of building.

[Boise Preservation]

Thanks Boisecynic for the welcome. I'll try to keep this short.

The truth is that I wasn't directing my comments at you directly but at the general misconceptions about the possibilities of historic preservation. I used your words, but they could have come from anyone.

I won't argue your point about the pressures of development in the downtown core, but I will argue that if the differences in setbacks and surroundings were not present, you could transplant some of the homes in the Central Addition to any of the more fashionable historic neighborhoods. They are worthy of preservation not demolition. At the least, the waste demolition generates is a poor use of natural resources.

Thanks for planting the trees!

[logicskier]

Yahoo (with sarcasm). A Boise Gaurdian troll. :slob:

[Mr.Boisean]

Okay, how did you two do that? Mr. Boisean quoted City of Trees before City of Trees posted....I'm impressed!


Can I read IBR now since John is gone? My subscription is up.

What can I say... I'm on top of my game.

:D

[boisecynic]

From the statesman;
April 30, 2107

The historic Paradigm Homes at 5th and Myrtle Streets are being razed today to make way for a 30 story office complex. Preservationists are trying to get an injunction to delay work while they seek ways to preserve the stately historic structures built at the turn of the last century, said Amanda Hugginkis. They are historically and architecturally significant, we just hate to lose these gems, she added.

[Boizean]

So no news since I updated the list except maybe this from Boisecynic...

Not sure how to read your post, I couldn't find the article in the paper. So I'm surmising that in the year 2107 we will have a 30 story office tower at 5th and Myrtle. Until then the site remains historic houses. I really hate waiting, especially that long. :sly:

Boisecynic can you provide a link to the source article?

The Paradigm is one block away from the address and is a 4 story residential building. So that begs the question; what is this 30 story office tower that is mentioned? It doesn't sound like a misprint where they are actually referring to the Paradigm. :shrug:



I took a drive by that area today to see what's up. First is no houses are being razed at the corner of 5th and Myrtle. Some actually looked to still be occupied (maybe by preservationist?). Second is only about five houses look to have any character at all while the rest, the further east you go, have little if no character. Third is that most look to be quite run down and/or severely neglected. Boise Preservation (btw welcome to the forum), if it be within your means organizationally, move these houses worthy of preservation to a new location. Single family homes in this area between the two corridors are very poor land use and better suited to high density housing/office/multi-uses. If they can't be moved, well then I say it's bye-bye eye sores.

Here's some info I came across on the Paradigm; http://www.cityofboise.org/city_clerk/112806/sub06-00027.pdf



Nice work Boishee on the project status pics, thanks for doing that. :tup:

[nobody]

^No problem. Also I think you maaaay have missed boisecynic's joke.

[Boizean]

Boisecynic joke? Since when? :)

[Cottonwood]

Some of those homes are great and should be saved and renovated, but only if the landowners will actually take care of them and keep the yards in shape.
I feel that if a person owns an investment home as a rental near downtown, northend, etc., and if they cannot keep the home in satisfactory condition (regardless if they are renting or not) , as well as making sure the lawn is watered and manicured, that the owner should have their pictures published in the paper, or online somwhere so they can be humiliated for being slobs. I always cringe when I see large grand homes turned into 5 apartments. What a waste of history.

[Cottonwood]

double post.

[Cottonwood]

The Trout farms in the Magic Valley are EVIL for demanding this.






http://www.magicvalley.com/articles/2007/05/01/news/top_story/111286.txt


Curtailment order likely
Water director sets May 14 shutdown date
By Matt Christensen
Times-News writer
BOISE - Hundreds of Magic Valley irrigators will have their groundwater pumps closed on May 14 unless they can come up with more water for senior water rights holders, the Idaho Department of Water Resources has announced.

State water director Dave Tuthill said Monday he's prepared to issue the largest curtailment order in Idaho history - an order that could shut down 771 groundwater pumpers and has the potential to dry up 33,000 acres of Magic Valley farmland.
The curtailment order also could limit water supplies to nearly every Magic Valley town north of the Snake River.

Tuthill said he makes the announcement with a heavy heart.

"Curtailment is really a last resort," he said. "I really hope we don't hurt growers."

Tuthill's decision stems from water calls made in 2005 by Clear Springs Foods' Snake River Farm and Blue Lakes Trout Farm, both senior rights holders.:hell:

Senior water rights holders take priority over junior groundwater pumpers. When senior right holders do not receive the water they're entitled to under the state's prior appropriations doctrine - which says senior rights trump junior rights in times of shortage - they can "call" on the director to shut down pumpers. Curtailing junior pumpers frees up water for senior holders.

Groundwater pumpers whose priority rights are after May 10, 1983, in the Blue Lakes call and June 9, 1975, in the Clear Springs call are at risk.

Water calls are common, especially in recent dry years. But this is the first time this many right holders could be forced to shut down, Tuthill said.

Groundwater pumpers have escaped curtailment the past several water years by voluntarily giving up water to senior right holders. But this year, they can't afford to give what senior users want.

"We just don't believe there's enough water in the system," said Lynn Tominaga, executive director of Idaho Ground Water Appropriators. "We might end up going to court or asking the director for a special hearing."

Another option: the Conservation Reserve Enhancement Program - a joint federal and state effort to reimburse farmers who fallow their land. Farmers who enroll in CREP are exempt from curtailment orders.

Tominaga and Tuthill said enough farmers could sign up for CREP to prevent the curtailment order, but they weren't sure how many irrigators it would take.

[boisecynic]

36th St Garden Center now open. Grand opening will be soon, when the "Bistro" opens. According to one employee, home construction will begin in the fall. There is some controversy with ACHD and construction of the traffic circle. ACHD wants to take out that big Silver Maple at the corner....well, you know where this is leading.

For those of you hoping for some competition for Edwards, forget it. Not the same kind of place. 36th GC is more about patio/outdoor living, lots of container plants, lawn/patio ornaments and maybe some outdoor furniture.

I wonder if the saucer section separates?
http://i12.tinypic.com/62xths6.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/63h6fe8.jpg

Bronze bird bath.
http://i13.tinypic.com/6f9982g.jpg

Nice floor, polished and stained concrete with french drain.
http://i13.tinypic.com/4r7ebv8.jpg

Dome it.
http://i11.tinypic.com/4yst1tx.jpg

Didn't check the price tag on this.
http://i13.tinypic.com/4v52kv6.jpg

[LV at IBR]

Did anyone catch the groundbreaking at The Jefferson? I went there with my camera and guess what, the camera battery was back home in the charger where I left it.

Anyway there were about 50 or 60 people including city councilors Tibbs, Jordan and Bisterfeldt. I didn't see any mainstream media types, nor have I seen anything in today's news.

I don't know if I count as MSM, but I was there. Always nice to see some progress on these things.



Whatever that loft conversion on 8th is called is looking great.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/475178057_f2e920d094.jpg

Whatever those Apartments/Condos on Grand are called
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/225/475177569_2f55af807b.jpg

Loft Conversion. Grey Lofts? I can not remember the name of this place.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/475179197_41f0ab5328.jpg

The first one I've got here is R. Grey Lofts. Second is Grand Avenue Homes. Third is the Gem & Noble Building.

[QUOTE=Boizean;2796784]

Can I read IBR now since John is gone? My subscription is up.

What, were you boycotting us? No guarantees we won't still be a pain in the ass.

Seriously, John was a great teacher and mentor. It's a great loss for us, but I know he'll be happy where he's going. I wish him the best.

I think Boise's old Chief of Staff's name was Gary Lyman.

Yep, Lyman. A dollar store? Too funny.

From the statesman;
April 30, 2107

The historic Paradigm Homes at 5th and Myrtle Streets are being razed today to make way for a 30 story office complex. Preservationists are trying to get an injunction to delay work while they seek ways to preserve the stately historic structures built at the turn of the last century, said Amanda Hugginkis. They are historically and architecturally significant, we just hate to lose these gems, she added.

Does Amanda Hugginkis work for Click & Clack, too?

[boisecynic]

To LV;

What or who is Click & Clack? You know the Hugginkis report was a sarcastic parody, right? I think some may have missed that, I'm not a very good writer, I'll admit. Of course the pay for submitting articles on this forum isn't very good either.

At least IBR admits they read this forum, unlike all the MSMs. And, no, I don't consider the IBR one of the MSMs. Did you take any pictures of The Jefferson's groundbreaking?

[LV at IBR]

To LV;

What or who is Click & Clack? You know the Hugginkis report was a sarcastic parody, right? I think some may have missed that, I'm not a very good writer, I'll admit. Of course the pay for submitting articles on this forum isn't very good either.

At least IBR admits they read this forum, unlike all the MSMs. And, no, I don't consider the IBR one of the MSMs. Did you take any pictures of The Jefferson's groundbreaking?

Click and Clack are also known as Tom and Ray, the guys on the Car Talk radio show. They have a lot of joke names for their fake staff members, like their director of guaranteed repeat business, Lucinda Bolts, and their dessert menu coordinator, Eaton Flanagan. So yes, I got the joke.

I didn't bring the camera to the Jefferson groundbreaking. Sorry.

[Cottonwood]

Anybody want to crash a Boise Guardian B-Day party?:haha:
How sweet they are having a party--and if you go you can meet Sharon Ullman?:slob:
I guess they don't have too much taste as we all assumed mainly because they are having the party at a Pizza Hut;)


this is copied from their website:
http://www.boiseguardian.com/2007/05/01/guardian_birthday_reminder.html#comments
May 1, 2007
GUARDIAN Birthday ReminderCome one and all to the BOISE GUARDIAN 2nd birthday party. Join your fellow bloggers at the Pizza Hut near University and Capitol Blvd…not far from the locked up Boise Depot. Friday May 4 at 5:30 p.m. Donations accepted for the pizza and drinks.

Meet the likes of Sharon, Bikeboy, Treva, Luddite, and maybe even a politico or two.
Posted by dave at May 1, 2007 9:42 AM

Comments1. Sisyphus said:I'll be the one pushing the rock, uphill, again.

May 1, 2007 10:25 AM

2. Luddite said:I will be the one that opposes technology that enables cheap, unskilled labor to bring profit to the aristocracy and devalues our privacy.

(Not to be confused with the guys that burned the textile mills in England...)

May 1, 2007 1:37 PM

3. bikeboy said:"There's a lot of things about me that you don't know anything about ... Things you wouldn't understand. Things you couldn't understand. Things you shouldn't understand. You don't want to get mixed up with a guy like me. I'm a loner ... A rebel."

- Pee-Wee Herman (in "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure")

(The same holds true of me!)

May 1, 2007 3:15 PM

4. Clancy said:I am sure it will be a great time but send my regrets as I have a prior engagement at my son's school carnival.

Sorry, no catchy quotes as those above.

May 1, 2007 10:57 PM

5. Sisyphus said:One of my favorite quotes Bikeboy.


May 2, 2007 10:55 AM

[nobody]

Aw I really like Bikeboy's blog for the most part, didn't realize he was a Guardian...ian?

[boisecynic]

Some of those homes are great and should be saved and renovated, but only if the landowners will actually take care of them and keep the yards in shape.
I feel that if a person owns an investment home as a rental near downtown, northend, etc., and if they cannot keep the home in satisfactory condition (regardless if they are renting or not) , as well as making sure the lawn is watered and manicured, that the owner should have their pictures published in the paper, or online somwhere so they can be humiliated for being slobs. I always cringe when I see large grand homes turned into 5 apartments. What a waste of history.

I'm mostly with you on this. We already have a "code enforcement" office, but it's basically a paper tiger. I've thought about a virtual stockade for code violators. A website showing pictures of offending properties and the names and addresses of the owners. Maybe even hunt them down and confront them with a video camera ala 60 Minutes or Michael Moore. A little bit of YouTube goes a long way nowadays.

The Central Addition neighborhood, ah, the economic reality is single-family homes (or duplex/triplex) are a liability to that area. Given it's proximity to downtown and roads/transit it should be more densely developed in my opinion. Downtown and west downtown need more residents.

This is related to the proposed removal of the tree at 36th and Catalpa. You should have seen the look on the gal's face at the Garden Center when I said, "well, they'll plant new ones and before long it will look better." It was as if I had stomped on her toe. Ask Boise urban foresters Dennis or Brian about Silver Maples. They suck. Sometimes it's gotta be out with the old and in with the new.

Oh, good find at the BG. I rarely go there anymore.

I'll think I'll go, I'll be the one complaining and complaining.:haha:

[Evo5Boise]

Well this is no great downtown news but I see they are planning a commercial project at the Northeast corner of Eagle Rd and Fairview. There is a sign up about a development. Couldn't get a good read on it with all the traffic at the time.

Just what we need. More traffic at that intersection. :lol:

[nobody]

I saw that today too and sighed. I really like that there's that one nice looking field left on Eagle. Project looked pretty huge. Also noticed a couple of the other large lots are starting to sell. *shrug*

[BrianInBoise]

More progress on the Apsen - the dirt piles are gone!:tup: Let seen some dang construction now!

[jard]

Well this is no great downtown news but I see they are planning a commercial project at the Northeast corner of Eagle Rd and Fairview. There is a sign up about a development. Couldn't get a good read on it with all the traffic at the time.

Just what we need. More traffic at that intersection. :lol:


Here is the sign, and these are the guys that are going to be building it.
http://www.centeroak.com/
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6314/may3024vn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New projects are currently under due diligence review in Oregon City, Oregon, Farmington, Utah and Meridian, Idaho.

[Sawtooth]

Did anybody catch the news story the other night about the old China town downtown and the opium dens and hooker alleyways? The news said that the tunnels under downtown are a myth, but are they? I have heard from old timers in Boise that they do exist and some buildings downtown have secret passageways into them.
Has anybody in this forum been in any tunnels?

[Mr.Boisean]

Did anybody catch the news story the other night about the old China town downtown and the opium dens and hooker alleyways? The news said that the tunnels under downtown are a myth, but are they? I have heard from old timers in Boise that they do exist and some buildings downtown have secret passageways into them.
Has anybody in this forum been in any tunnels?

Ive heard about those too. The only large tunnels I know about are around the capitol building and WGIs campus. Other than that, I think that myth has been dispelled.

[Evo5Boise]

Here is the sign, and these are the guys that are going to be building it.
http://www.centeroak.com/
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6314/may3024vn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Ah, very nice. Thanks Jard.

Well, it looks like an interesting development. :shrug:

[jard]

Ah, very nice. Thanks Jard.

Well, it looks like an interesting development. :shrug:

Well it looks better than what is one the other side of the street.

[City Of Trees]

So, looks like the Ten Mile overpass could be seriously screwed:

http://itd.idaho.gov/Apps/MediaManagerViewer/NewsRelease/NewsRelease.aspx?Id=870

If it's damaged beyond recognition, I wonder if this would put the conversion of the overpass to an interchange on the fast track? I know Meridian's been begging ITD to do it for years and the Legislature has been dragging their feet.

[Boizean]

If it's damaged beyond recognition, I wonder if this would put the conversion of the overpass to an interchange on the fast track?
I doubt it. They'll probably just spend what it takes to temporarily fix it. Much like the Black Cat (or McDermott?) Overpass was a year or two ago. It's likely that just the exterior girder was damaged.

Edit: Boy was I wrong. Make that the Cloverdale Overpass.

[Boizean]

Bronco Stadium is now one step closer to expanding the seating capacity. :tup:

Only 500 or so steps to go. :uhh:

BSU buys 21 acres on Warm Springs to trade for East Junior High property
Anne Wallace Allen - Idaho Statesman
Edition Date: 05/07/07


Boise State University completed its purchase today of a 21-acre property on Warm Springs Avenue that it plans to trade to the Boise School District as a site for a new East Junior High early next month.
In return, Boise State will get the current 15-acre East Junior High property, where 660 students now attend school.

BSU plans to use the property for a stadium for track, Boise School District football, and other sports.

The Boise School District will go before the planning and zoning commission May 14 to ask permission to put its new 89,000-square-foot East Junior High building on the land, which is on the north side of Warm Springs Avenue, across from the Riverstone Community School.

The land exchange -- which is likely to be completed next month -- is part of the $94 million bond passed by voters in March 2006 authorizing the construction and renovation of several school buildings in the district.

Work on the new East Junior High is expected to begin next fall, said Vickie Simmons, the district’s deputy superintendent. The district hopes to have students in the new East Junior High by the middle of the 2008-09 school year.

[Boizean]

Looks like it made it into the second girder. This must be one of those huge crawler type excavator's.

All lanes open at Ten Mile on I-84; overpass remains closed
Statesman staff - Idaho Statesman
Edition Date: 05/07/07


All westbound lanes on Interstate 84 are now open under a damaged overpass at Ten Mile. The overpass itself is still closed, and the Idaho Transportation Department suggests that motorists hoping to cross the interstate in that area use the Garrity or Black Cat interchanges to the west or the Meridian and Eagle interchanges to the east.

ITD officials said the Ten Mile overpass over I-84 was "significantly damaged" when it was struck by an excavator being pulled on a trailer passing on the interstate below.

Of the five girders that support the overpass, one was seriously damaged and another was completely destroyed, ITD spokeswoman Mollie McCarty said.

Crews searched the underside of the bridge for debris that could dislodge and fall, McCarty said.

The interstate and the overpass were closed about 7:20 p.m. Sunday after a large piece of construction equipment on a trailer being pulled by a truck hit the overpass, causing chunks of cement and rubble to fall onto the roadway.

The accident blocked westbound traffic between Meridian and Nampa for more than two hours Sunday until the left westbound lane reopened.

About 75,000 vehicles pass below the bridge every day, McCarty said, and 6,900 pass over it.

The bridge was built in 1964.

The department plans to build a new interchange there in 2009 or 2010, if the Legislature continues to fund the Connecting Idaho highway-building plan, McCarty said.

This accident won't affect the planning timeline.

Clint Kimball, 59, of Caldwell was headed west on I-84 Sunday driving an International truck pulling a low-boy trailer loaded with a 290 excavator, the Idaho State Police said.

The excavator was not properly placed on the trailer, and when it traveled under the Ten Mile overpass, it struck two beams of the overpass and was dislodged from the trailer. The excavator fell from the trailer onto the right-hand westbound lane of the interstate.

McCarty said the state likely will try to work with Kimball's insurance company to pay for the damages.

[logicskier]

BOISE - Boise State University broke ground on a $30 million construction project in the center of campus Tuesday. The Student Union Building is expanding - to nearly three times its current size.

It is a project that gets underway very quickly and students at the university are looking forward to it.

Boise State's Student Union Building will soon have a larger presence on campus – with an extra 66,000 square feet.

BSU began looking into the major expansion back in 2000. Since then, enrollment at the university is up almost 10 percent. That's why Student Union Director Leah Barrett says there is an incredible need for the extra space.

“Right now we are turning away 20 requests a month to use our ballroom space and we need to increase the bookstore space, we don't have enough space to put the books,” Barrett said.

The expanded part of the SUB will include a larger bookstore, more ballrooms, additional study areas and a larger cafeteria space- something students are looking forward to.

“I think definitely in the cafeteria it is needed, it gets crowded so that will be neat having a bigger one,” BSU freshman Leslie Benett said.

“I think it will be great because we do need more places to eat, what we have here isn't good enough,” freshman Cooper McCroskey said

The student union building will expand into a nearby parking lot so when construction begins on May 21st, the lot closes for good. A new parking garage across the street from the SUB opens in August, designed to help ease the loss of parking – and part of BSU’s goal to move parking out of the center of campus.

On top of the additional Student Union space, the school will renovate some of the existing building, all of the work will be covered by the projected $30 million price tag, paid out of fees collected by students.

“I think that its a great idea because we get to enjoy it and see our money put to work,” Bennett said.

The project is expected to be completed in just two years – in time for the 2009 school year.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-may0807-SUB.4d3c374a.html

[Evo5Boise]

Excellent! I think they really need to expand that stadium. The more seats available = the better!!

[Cottonwood]

:offtopic: http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-may0807-marijuana_growing.4dddabc1.html


What a waste of our tax money. These "officials" wasting money looking for a plant. :shrug: This tax money could go to new roads instead:haha:

[boisecynic]

:banana: :hell: :thankyouthankyou:

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/images/marihuana-hysteria-ad.gif

:banana: :hell: :thankyouthankyou:

[City Of Trees]

:offtopic: http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-may0807-marijuana_growing.4dddabc1.html


What a waste of our tax money. These "officials" wasting money looking for a plant. :shrug: This tax money could go to new roads instead:haha:

Hey, if the locals won't waste the tax money, you know damn well the feds will. :yuck:

[Evo5Boise]

How about look for meth labs!

[Boizean]

BSU seems to be quite the hot spot for construction activity these days. The five story Business College will probably be started right behind the completion of the SUB.

[el conquistador]

BSU seems to be quite the hot spot for construction activity these days. The five story Business College will probably be started right behind the completion of the SUB.


I think the health sciences building is up to bat next, but the COBE building shouldn't be far behind.

[nobody]

Why can't they just do 10 at once? Let's see some progress man!

[IdaBoi]

:banana: :hell: :thankyouthankyou:

http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/images/marihuana-hysteria-ad.gif

:banana: :hell: :thankyouthankyou:

LOL. I love the old false propoganda ads!

[el conquistador]

LOL. I love the old false propoganda ads!

Me too! The only evil committed while high is weird food concoctions. Peanut butter and ice cream on a tortilla is not as good as it sounds.


From what I hear anyway.........:naughty: :naughty:

[Sawtooth]

Me too! The only evil committed while high is weird food concoctions. Peanut butter and ice cream on a tortilla is not as good as it sounds.


From what I hear anyway.........:naughty: :naughty:

Salmon River Quiver?:sly:

[boisecynic]

Back on topic. The Jefferson hole and shiny new track hoe.

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1324/jeffersonmay07hq9.jpg

[Cottonwood]

I like the design of The Jefferson, but it is too bad it isn't going to be 4 floors taller for a total of 10 floors.
The Imperial Plaza condo tower on Idaho Street near the Jefferson needs an exterior remodel or it is going to be the ugly stepchild of all condos in downtown.

[nobody]

Whoa, what's this I see, actual progress on something?

[Boizean]

:previous: No kidding.

The Jefferson web site said the hole has to be dug out to a depth of 38' before they can start the 3 level underground parking garage. That's a pretty deep hole for such a realatively small project. :eek:

[alphawolf]

3 levels of parking underground? Does anybody recall how many levels of underground parking U.S. Bank has? I think they might have 5. If only the Royal would have taken a step like this.

[Evo5Boise]

Well this is nice to see something started. Even though it isn't a monster sized project, it is a step in the right direction.

I haven't been downtown in a few weeks. Any more movement on the Aspen?

[Boise Preservation]

The Imperial Plaza condo tower on Idaho Street near the Jefferson needs an exterior remodel or it is going to be the ugly stepchild of all condos in downtown.

We Imperial Plaza-ites like to think of it as retro-chic. Architecture from 1964 may not be the hottest style in 2007, but the same was said in 1964 about the grand mansions on Harrison and Warm Springs when everyone was clamoring to live in a fancy new condo building at 3rd and Idaho or the latest ranch house in the foothills.

As for a remodel, the condo board would never approve the expense in light of our skyrocketing property values and taxes.

[nobody]

http://boiseguardian.com/2007/05/09/looking_down_on_development-print.html

Has anyone read this crap? I use the term crap loosely, I'm giving the dude the benefit of the doubt here.

I know these articles get brought up from time to time but I just find it so frustrating. If you read the comments even more so. In one fell swoop he moans about densification (made up word) and sprawl. The only thing that would please this nut would be if Boise actually froze, not another thing was built or torn down.

Anyway I was just hoping this would make someone else nauseas as well and they could perhaps comment and blow this clown out of the water. Or at least reassure me that he's a goon.

[Sawtooth]

:previous:
The guardian people are lost, and sad, miserable homo sapiens. :grrr:
We should hope none of them have children that they mold after themselves and influence with their ideas. The world is full of stupid people.

[Boisebro]

yeah, the guardian is a good collection of small-minded nitwits who wax poetic about the "good ole days" when the current days are pretty damned terrific, too. boise will grow. they can't stop it, they can only ruin how well it grows by inhibiting the kind of proactive, necessary projects and developments that would ensure a smooth transition into the inevitable mid-size city boise is destine to become.

as for the folks who whine about how nice it was in 1955 when you could ride your cow down warm springs, well, grow up. it ain't 1955 anymore.

but, they did have a nice picture of downtown, at least:

http://www.boiseguardian.com/image/Boise%20Capitol.jpg

[cman]

BG likes to makeup words- Growthophobes and commishes are a couple more.

There are a few of us posting at the Guardian that like to help keep it real. He blasted my comment in that particular thread when I mention there must be some good things/developments happening. It is kinda of fun playin the devil's advocate over there.

[Mr.Boisean]

BG likes to makeup words- Growthophobes and commishes are a couple more.

There are a few of us posting at the Guardian that like to help keep it real. He blasted my comment in that particular thread when I mention there must be some good things/developments happening. It is kinda of fun playin the devil's advocate over there.

Ive posted there and gotten similar replys. But hey, at least Im keeping those bastards on their toes. I suggest every Boise poster here on SCP.com go over and post at BG.. stir that festering pot o' shit.

We wont convince anybody there of anything, but its good to let the vocal minority know they dont run the show around here.

[IdaBoi]

Ive posted there and gotten similar replys. But hey, at least Im keeping those bastards on their toes. I suggest every Boise poster here on SCP.com go over and post at BG.. stir that festering pot o' shit.

We wont convince anybody there of anything, but its good to let the vocal minority know they dont run the show around here.


Those BG people are ingrates and only get attention because the local press allows them to get the attention they want.

If fatty Dave looked at this forum he would proabably try to sue us all to protect the tax payer.

[boisecynic]

I went to the BG anniversary party last week----you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I don't always agree with Dave, but he has broken a couple of stories----the poop farm, for one.

Most were not aware of SSP, Dave is though. Anyway, I handed out cards with the SSP address to some of the BG regulars. I felt like a missionary, after Dave left, explaining the benefits of our forum to some eager listeners hungry for the positive light. I tried to "save" them from the "dark" side and show them the light.:haha: The dark side is powerful and I'm afraid it may be nefariously recruiting over here in its own way. You must resist succumbing to the tactics of the dark side.:haha:

Maybe it was just fate, but anytime I hear about free pizza, I'm there. However, I got to speak with Dave one on one for quite a bit of time. He was friendly and he's no dummy. He's also got a lot of energy or ambition and is focusing that squarely on CCDC.

Dave's new focus is CCDC. If Boiseans want to keep CCDC they will need to create some very well thought out arguments. I think CCDC may have served its pupose in the downtown district and may be close to finishing its work in the River/Myrtle district. I, of course, would like to see it expand into the Fairview/Main corridor and would not mind if CCDC operations were sunset-ed in the 2 aformentioned districts-----IF such was the result of some sort of compromise.

Not all of the posters at BG are sad and pathetic, there are many lucid comments. This is what it's all about people, the internet is changing the world. It's changing the way we change the world. Hopefully this forum can be a force for the better with regard to the inevitable change Boise will experience in the not so distant future.

Why Dave got an Idaho Press Club award and this forum didn't is beyond me. Some of Sawtooth's picture threads surely have no counterpart in the MSMs and they certainly deserve an award.

Are you listening, Idaho Press Club?

[BoiseAirport]

I went to the BG anniversary party last week----you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I don't always agree with Dave, but he has broken a couple of stories----the poop farm, for one.

Most were not aware of SSP, Dave is though. Anyway, I handed out cards with the SSP address to some of the BG regulars. I felt like a missionary, after Dave left, explaining the benefits of our forum to some eager listeners hungry for the positive light. I tried to "save" them from the "dark" side and show them the light.:haha: The dark side is powerful and I'm afraid it may be nefariously recruiting over here in its own way. You must resist succumbing to the tactics of the dark side.:haha:

Maybe it was just fate, but anytime I hear about free pizza, I'm there. However, I got to speak with Dave one on one for quite a bit of time. He was friendly and he's no dummy. He's also got a lot of energy or ambition and is focusing that squarely on CCDC.

Dave's new focus is CCDC. If Boiseans want to keep CCDC they will need to create some very well thought out arguments. I think CCDC may have served its pupose in the downtown district and may be close to finishing its work in the River/Myrtle district. I, of course, would like to see it expand into the Fairview/Main corridor and would not mind if CCDC operations were sunset-ed in the 2 aformentioned districts-----IF such was the result of some sort of compromise.

Not all of the posters at BG are sad and pathetic, there are many lucid comments. This is what it's all about people, the internet is changing the world. It's changing the way we change the world. Hopefully this forum can be a force for the better with regard to the inevitable change Boise will experience in the not so distant future.

Why Dave got an Idaho Press Club award and this forum didn't is beyond me. Some of Sawtooth's picture threads surely have no counterpart in the MSMs and they certainly deserve an award.

Are you listening, Idaho Press Club?

SNAP OUT OF IT! SNAP OUT OF IT!!! I can sense you're already turning toward their side! Soon, you'll be one of "them". *Shudder*

Just Kidding :haha: :tup:

Anthony

[Cottonwood]

I would not say Dave F. is smart, he is selfish. He has an agenda, a chip on his shoulder, and is out for his own (and is small following's) good. Look at his assanine friend who owns the more assanine hotel chain and the bad they have done to numerous Idaho cities with their spooky agenda not letting cities have convention centers. They are evil people and would be content if downtown boise was a bunch of dirt piles vs. highrises.
Maybe they belong to some strange cult and are out to turn the city into their idea of what the city should be? They don't believe in having numerous wives do they? Maybe they want to set up a cult camp on the future site of the downtown convention center? I can see it now--plenty of trailer homes built next to each other with the wifes wearing denim dresses and chickens running around the trailers...

[Sawtooth]

It is bike month and Boise Bike Week so I have some pics I have taken commuting/riding on the Greenbelt which I will be posting in a thread.
Maybe some of you are in some of the pics which I will be posting soon;)


Here are a few teasers of what you can see along the Boise River if you are lucky enough to ride along its banks on the premier Greenbelt of all greenbelts.
How may forumers here bike?


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/Idahomajesty/8-9.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/Idahomajesty/14-7.jpg


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/Idahomajesty/31-5.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/Idahomajesty/38-4.jpg



More pics coming soon

[City Of Trees]

How may forumers here bike?

Right here. My commute is less than a mile on the Greenbelt. I have only filled up my tank twice this year. That'll change due to summer trips, but still... :tup:

Where did you see a deer on the Greenbelt?

[nobody]

I live 12 miles from work so I only manage to bike to work once a week or so. Wish I had the energy to do it every day but it's quite the ordeal. I ride for fun as much as possible though.

[Sawtooth]

Right here. My commute is less than a mile on the Greenbelt. I have only filled up my tank twice this year. That'll change due to summer trips, but still... :tup:

Where did you see a deer on the Greenbelt?


I saw the deer, and other deer I will post pics of, in this area:


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/Idahomajesty/12-7.jpg

[City Of Trees]

Oh wow, just next to downtown? Impressive, I had no idea they could get that far down there!

[boisecynic]

Oh wow, just next to downtown? Impressive, I had no idea they could get that far down there!

Remember, I posted back in March about all the deer scat by KA park and the Trapper's Island Condo proposal, formerly the KOA. It was right after one of the TV stations had a video of a deer running around downtown or the east end somewhere.

Sawtooth posted this link on March 4th

http://www.ktvb.com/sharedcontent/Vi...p?vidId=125661

[Cottonwood]

I bet that deer can live anywhere along the Boise River at any point through the city. There are so many trees and woods along the river bottoms that they have plenty of hiding spots.

[el conquistador]

I see deer off the Barber Park nature trail quite a bit.

[boisecynic]

Sorry, that previous link was incorrect. This should work.

http://www.ktvb.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/showVideo.php?vidId=125661

[cman]

I bike to work everyday. I wish I had the commute of Boisecynic. Just installed an Xtracycle on my bike to reduce car dependency. www.xtracycle.com

[IdaBoi]

I bike often, but work is a little too far to bike to each day, but a few hours each night is not out of the ordinary for my wife and myself. Boise is mountain bike heaven, that's for sure. Can't wait to see the rest of the pics Sawtooth.

[nobody]

Completely out of the blue - Capitol Terrace Apartments Approved

http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm/2007/05/14/CCDC-approves-Capitol-Terrace-Apartments-in-downtown-Boise

Yay!

[Props]

I'm relieved Capitol Terrace finally punched through the resistance. Now let's build 'em.

I'm a pretty dedicated cyclist too. Sadly, the commuter bike I built for Boise now mostly just hangs in the garage. The mountain bike gets thoroughly abused though.

Vernal Mountain Biking (http://www.utahoutdoors.com/pages/vernal_bike.htm)

[logicskier]

Completely out of the blue - Capitol Terrace Apartments Approved

http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm/2007/05/14/CCDC-approves-Capitol-Terrace-Apartments-in-downtown-Boise

Yay!

Awesome! That brought an unexpected smile to my Monday afternoon.

[IdaBoi]

Awesome! That brought an unexpected smile to my Monday afternoon.

That is great news! Maybe this will be the year for Boise, lets hope.

[el conquistador]

Cool, The Jefferson is rolling

The Aspen has somewhat started, but I would like to see some more progress

Now the Capital Terrace is approved. If those get rolling, that's 3 pretty good projects to build up some density. :tup:

[Boise Preservation]

How may forumers here bike?


I bike to work (5 miles roundtrip) 4 out of every 5 days as well as on the weekend.

As for the Capital Terrace project, Ken Howell has worked a long time on this and done some great things for downtown Boise. I'm glad to see his hard work has finally paid off.

[gdr]

I enjoy the project updates on this thread, if your interested here is a webcam view of downtown, I currently have it setup to run 8-5 or something like that, I can extend the hours on it now that it is staying light later. You can see a couple of the project spots.

It lets you zoom/pan around part of downtown.

http://www.gordonroberts.net/webcam.html

I'm pretty sure you can guess the camera location.

[Boizean]

Welcome to the forum gdr and thanks for the cam link. Nice shot of the Boise Place site (or by its other acronyms). Has anything at all been done on the site? Rogers had mentioned getting the site up to street level but it doesn't look like even the garbage has been picked up.

Great news on Capitol Terrace! Now that CCDC has approved it, does it go to the Boise DRC for seemingly endless rounds there too? Or has Boise DRC already approved it? :shrug:

[rudimentalist]

Remember, I posted back in March about all the deer scat by KA park and the Trapper's Island Condo proposal, formerly the KOA.

I'm an everyday bike commuter year round, which has afforded me more than a few glimpses of the deer that live in Kathryn Albertson Park. If you travel up the west-side of Americana Boulevard as it climbs the bench -- along the too-narrow sidewalk that sadly doubles as the bike lane (grrr) -- you can see the impressions left in the grasses where deer regularly bed down under the trees close to the road. In the evenings you can occasionally see them feeding as well, and I'm sure these same deer range over to the old train trestle and the headwaters of Settler's Canal.

Happy Bike Week.

[Sawtooth]

I'm an everyday bike commuter year round, which has afforded me more than a few glimpses of the deer that live in Kathryn Albertson Park. If you travel up the west-side of Americana Boulevard as it climbs the bench -- along the too-narrow sidewalk that sadly doubles as the bike lane (grrr) -- you can see the impressions left in the grasses where deer regularly bed down under the trees close to the road. In the evenings you can occasionally see them feeding as well, and I'm sure these same deer range over to the old train trestle and the headwaters of Settler's Canal.

Happy Bike Week.


I have seen deer by Albertsons Park area, Parkcenter area, Julia Davis, Veterans Park, Barber Park (a given), and The Black Forest, Hulls Gulch, and pretty much anywhere in the foothills. Some beast's I have not come across yet is a cougar or wolf. I have heard from friends that there is a small pack of wolves that come up the Boise Ridge from Robie Creek and hang out near Bogus once in a while. I believe the Forest Service has spotted the wolves too.