[BoiseAirport]

Interesting read BoiseAirport-



I'm wondering which projects will resume after few more months of this type of growth. At this point it seems that Capitol Plaza is still a while away, but the second phase of One Capitol seems reasonable due to its proposed size and location.

One of the things Rafanelli & Nahas noted in their e-mail to me was that before they build Capitol Plaza, they would likely develop the parcels around Boise Plaza first. I recall a while back they had a proposal for several mid-size (6-12 floors) office and hotel developments. I remember seeing a rough rendering, but I can't find it anywhere.

Weirdly enough, my opinion has changed quite a bit about Capitol Plaza. I used to think it was one of the most beautiful proposals for Boise, but now I find it to be a little bit of an awkward design that doesn't really mesh with the skyline very well. I think it's actually a problem with location rather than the architecture or scale, it's like the building doesn't feel "right" in that particular lot. One of the lots surrounding the Boise Plaza would be far better for that structure, I think.

But even then, I recall that R&N was not happy about the selection of location for the transit center, and threatened to back out of all projects for the downtown area if the center was built. So I don't know if either project will ever happen. :shrug:

[Boisebro]

nimby news:

BOISE -- Monday night the Boise City Planning and Zoning commission denied a proposal, which has received much opposition.

A planned development next to Loggers Creek off Parkcenter Boulevard was back before the Boise City Planning and Zoning commission for review.

A Ketchum developer bought the land last year and his plan calls for 287 units on 13 acres. However neighbors close by say the plan is too dense. The zoning and planning commission asked the developer to meet with opposed residents and discuss a compromise, but after three meetings, neighbors still aren't happy.

Boise City Current Planner, Cody Riddle said the developer has not decreased the units, but instead spaced them differently as well as change the height of one of the buildings. City planners approved recommendation for the proposed project.

"We felt like it complied the first time and we have recommended approval again but there are definitely some subjective issues in terms of compatibility and just how it will impact neighbors that the commission has to weigh,” said Riddle.

Opposing neighbors say the dense housing will decrease the value of their homes. They are also concerned about wildlife habitat next to Loggers Creek. The commission heard public comment Monday evening, but ultimately denied the request. Now the applicant has ten days to appeal the decision.

http://www.ktvb.com/news/Proposed-Parkcenter-development-back-before-planning-board-146755415.html

[BoiseAirport]

nimby news:



http://www.ktvb.com/news/Proposed-Parkcenter-development-back-before-planning-board-146755415.html

Dang... that's too bad.

[BoiseAirport]

Here's an interesting, if a bit depressing, article on the food scene here in Boise. Definitely worth a read.

http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/tales-of-a-food-critic-the-highs-and-lows-of-boises-food-scene/Content?oid=2629799

Tales of a Food Critic: The Highs and Lows of Boise's Food Scene
by Guy Hand
April 04, 2012

Beyond Idaho, we may be famous for that one ubiquitous tuber, but we're less renowned for our restaurant scene. So, when Providence Cicero, the chair of the James Beard Foundation's award committee, emailed me in June 2011, asking if I'd represent Idaho on the panel that nominates chefs and restaurants for the influential James Beard Awards, I was flattered but also a little conflicted.

...

But, why, you may ask, is a vibrant, award-winning restaurant culture important? Society clearly doesn't require restaurants to survive, nor would it take much intellectual effort to write them off as unnecessary indulgences or worse. I'd argue, though, that a vibrant restaurant scene is as fundamental, as essential a cultural expression as the visual arts, music and literature. And without a vibrant restaurant scene, culinary creativity can bleed away from a community.

...

"The most successful restaurants in this valley currently are Olive Garden and Cheesecake Factory and Applebee's, and these are restaurants that are busy day in and day out--and that's kind of a sad commentary. Even though they're employing local people to cook and wait tables and clean the restaurant, the money is primarily going out of state."

Yet Kelly holds out hope for Idaho's food future.

[Cottonwood]

Not today, but last fall I heard several loud booms. I was on the greenbelt around the Julia Davis Band Shell area and the booms seemed to be coming from the east side of downtown. Seriously it sounded like TNT. Weird. Sorry Cottonwood if we're going off topic, but the only thing I've ever heard that loud was construction related. So who or what...?

About the missing Compton Warehouse, I love the view coming in from the west now. You can see the Foster's building and that whole block now.

You are not going off topic ;)
Now I am curious about the booms too.

[Cottonwood]

Definitely looking forward to all of the outdoor activites in our city this year.



http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/10/bmurphy/idahos_exergy_tour_announces_courses_mays_5day_stage_race

Idaho's Exergy Tour announces courses for May's 5-day stage race

The Exergy Tour announced the courses for its inaugural women's professional race May 24-28 in Idaho. The race will begin and end in Boise and visit Nampa, Kuna, Garden Valley/Crouch and Idaho City.

"We want the route to be a postcard for the state of Idaho and the Treasure Valley, said Heather Hill, the tour's marketing director. “Idaho isn't just mountains, it isn't just downtown Boise, or lake and river front Canyon County, or small farm communities, it is a mix of all of these and the people that call them home. We have been welcomed by all of these people and plan to show their communities to the world."

Seventeen of the top women's pro cycling teams and riders from nine countries are scheduled to compete, including Boise Olympic gold medalist Kristin Armstrong. The event — the highest-ranked women's stage race in North America — is one of the last chances for riders to earn points toward Olympic qualification for the 2012 London Games.

[Hawk]

i can't put a finger on those explosions or whatever they were i'm thinking it could have been cause by them hammering something into the ground with that huge hammer that has to be hoisted up by a crane but i know of no construction site that currently is that far into construction as of yet.

[BoiseAirport]

*facepalm*

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2012/04/10/student-housing-project-appeal-hearing-set/

Student housing project appeal hearing set
by Brad Carlson
Published: April 10,2012
Time posted: 6:34 pm

The Boise Planning and Zoning Commission’s approval of a five-story housing project targeted to college students is being appealed by the owner of a neighboring office building. Eileen Barber is appealing Boise P&Z’s approval of a height exception for the student housing project planned on just over 3.4 acres at 1004 W. Royal Blvd.

[Boisebro]

*facepalm*

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2012/04/10/student-housing-project-appeal-hearing-set/

Student housing project appeal hearing set
by Brad Carlson
Published: April 10,2012
Time posted: 6:34 pm

that's got to be one of the dumbest appeals in a city full of dumb appeals.

:koko:

[Cottonwood]

*facepalm*

http://idahobusinessreview.com/2012/04/10/student-housing-project-appeal-hearing-set/

Student housing project appeal hearing set
by Brad Carlson
Published: April 10,2012
Time posted: 6:34 pm

I watched the report last night on the news about how happy the people are by Loggers Creek that the city denied the project on Parkcenter. So instead of attractive buildings, grounds, etc. they want to keep looking at a huge eyesore of a bare lot:jester: I really hope the developer appeals or redesigns, but he is probably burnt out on the nimbys. Now this? why would that owner care about the height of the proposed apartments when her dinky little office building has a river view?

[NYC Rick]

I watched the report last night on the news about how happy the people are by Loggers Creek that the city denied the project on Parkcenter. So instead of attractive buildings, grounds, etc. they want to keep looking at a huge eyesore of a bare lot:jester: I really hope the developer appeals or redesigns, but he is probably burnt out on the nimbys. Now this? why would that owner care about the height of the proposed apartments when her dinky little office building has a river view?


These people are delivering what they feel is right FOR THEM...not for you.

There are a ton of reasons for the height restrictions on buildings, They live there and they can make their own choice without. Seriously, I have seen this BS on so many boards. You are definitely not the arbirator of height...especially to the people who are not directly involved where they live.

What a bozo.

[Cottonwood]

These people are delivering what they feel is right FOR THEM...not for you.

There are a ton of reasons for the height restrictions on buildings, They live there and they can make their own choice without. Seriously, I have seen this BS on so many boards. You are definitely not the arbirator of height...especially to the people who are not directly involved where they live.

What a bozo.

Who are you calling a bozo? ;)

[eastidaho]

A five-story housing project!! Hide the women and children!

:ahhh::ahhh::ahhh:

[boiseaninexile]

Who are you calling a bozo? ;)

I think NYC Rick was calling you a bozo, Cottonwood. However, I wouldn't take it too hard - Ricky can't even spell. Ricky-o, heads up for the future when you call the excellent moderator of this forum a bozo, get your words right: it's arbiter, or you could even have used arbitrator, pretty sure it isn't 'arbirator.' Whose the bozo?

[Cottonwood]

I think NYC Rick was calling you a bozo, Cottonwood. However, I wouldn't take it too hard - Ricky can't even spell. Ricky-o, heads up for the future when you call the excellent moderator of this forum a bozo, get your words right: it's arbiter, or you could even have used arbitrator, pretty sure it isn't 'arbirator.' Whose the bozo?

LOL, I think he posts often while drunk. He was suspended in the past for behaving badly so I am going to have a chat with him via pm. I tell you, there are a handful of forumers here who rep Utah/SLC as does NYC(SLC) Rick and they really create a ruckus. I was pretty forgiving to him in the past.....

[JustakidfromBoise]

Hello everyone,
I finally decided to stop being a creeper and become a registered user.
I love the city of Boise and look forward to discussing future projects :)

[BoiseAirport]

Hello everyone,
I finally decided to stop being a creeper and become a registered user.
I love the city of Boise and look forward to discussing future projects :)

Awesome! Welcome to the club, JustakidfromBoise! :cheers:

[boisecynic]

I really like the Idaho Business Review but I'm not so fond of their paywall to their website. So, here's the link to the public record appeal letter with regard to 1004 W Royal.

http://pdsonline.cityofboise.org/pdsonline/Documents.aspx?id=201202221106158250

Rendering: I don't think this is a repost, sorry if it is.

http://i.imgur.com/cF9Zg.jpg

I'll delete this Cottonwood, if you wish, but this is very interesting: http://www.abestweb.com/forums/clickbank-82/clickbank-commission-theft-66334.html

[kidboise]

I think now is a good time for me to come out of the woodwork as well. I've been creeping these forums for a couple years now, and with a couple big projects gaining a foothold downtown, I want to feel more a part of it all. :) So hello, everyone!

p.s. Welcome, JustakidfromBoise - didn't intend to have username that looks like a condensed version of yours; I've had this one registered for awhile, I swear!

[Cottonwood]

Hello everyone,
I finally decided to stop being a creeper and become a registered user.
I love the city of Boise and look forward to discussing future projects :)

I think now is a good time for me to come out of the woodwork as well. I've been creeping these forums for a couple years now, and with a couple big projects gaining a foothold downtown, I want to feel more a part of it all. :) So hello, everyone!

p.s. Welcome, JustakidfromBoise - didn't intend to have username that looks like a condensed version of yours; I've had this one registered for awhile, I swear!


Welcome to the forum Kids.

[Hawk]

NYC Rick is always a Bozo, Can't get his words straight, and apparently has nothing better to do then troll the threads when he's drunk. For I'm ignoring him, but it is getting extremely annoying.

-----------------------------

Welcome to to SSP Justakidfromboise and KidBoise

[BoiseAirport]

I think now is a good time for me to come out of the woodwork as well. I've been creeping these forums for a couple years now, and with a couple big projects gaining a foothold downtown, I want to feel more a part of it all. :) So hello, everyone!

p.s. Welcome, JustakidfromBoise - didn't intend to have username that looks like a condensed version of yours; I've had this one registered for awhile, I swear!

Woohoo! Glad to have you here, kidboise! :cheers:

[trekkerguy]

Looks like my return to The City of Trees has been delayed. My old boss had pretty much told me I had my job back, but it was a driving job and I am unable to return with a vehicle at this point. So the job will more than likely be waiting for me whenever I do return, but at the moment I'll be hunting for work in South Florida so I can save up enough money to buy a small car and get back. Somewhat off-topic but wanted to get it out there.

I miss Boise :(

[Cottonwood]

http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/taking-it-to-the-streets/Content?oid=2634481

Taking It To the Streets
Boise parking meters get smart

by Andrew Crisp @andrewcrisp


Boise has quietly unveiled its next generation of parking meters. Fifty-eight new meters are expected to be in place in the coming weeks. The first ones have quietly appeared on Bannock Street, between Eighth Street and Capitol Boulevard. More are expected in Boise's BODO district.





http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2011/12/26/boise-parking-meters-to-get-smarter

Boise Parking Meters to Get Smarter
Posted by Andrew Crisp on Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 12:00 PM

The new meters will allow for payment with debit, credit, gift and so-called "smart" parking cards, as well as the coins we're used to carrying by the dozen. The meters also sport battery packs, recharged by solar power. When there's not much sun, the meters will switch to their batteries

[Bodo_business]

Took this pic during my lunch walk. Looks to be demo/remodel going on in the space between Main Street Bistro and Flatbread. I believe it has been overflow for the Bistro for a number of years. Before that, maybe a BBQ for a while and if you go way, way back it was The Heartbreak Cafe if memory serves me correctly. Anyone know what is going in there?

http://weech.smugmug.com/Other/link/i-KLP3cLW/0/M/CA04121213091589-M.jpg (http://weech.smugmug.com/Other/link/8862432_2Svgfz#!i=1791516750&k=KLP3cLW&lb=1&s=A)

[Cottonwood]

:previous: I remember reading a month or so ago that the Bistro is adding more (maybe seating?) to that area between them and Flatbread.




http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/12/2072872/national-media-company-touts-boises.html

National media company touts Boise's tech potential
By Statesman staff
Posted: 1:52pm on Apr 12, 2012; Modified: 1:53pm on Apr 12, 2012

CEO Frank Gruber of Tech Cocktail, a national media company that highlights technology startups online and at events, said the vibe at Boise's Tech Cocktail April 3 took him back to his early mixer events in Chicago.

"People came out in droves and stayed late to share in the excitement while connecting with all the various startups and founders," he wrote online. "There is positive momentum in Boise..."

[Evo5Boise]

Wow, I spent quite a few nights in my adolescent years drinking on that patio. I wonder what their plans are?

[NYC Rick]

Welcome to the forum Kids.

LOL

I like Boise! I will not post again.

[Cottonwood]

LOL

I like Boise! I will not post again.

Wrong...your post count is actually a bit higher but some have been deleted in the past;) We welcome your comments as long as you are not trolling, but if you decide to troll then please keep your comments in the Utah threads.

[Boisebro]

Forbes: Boise Second Most Bestest City Ever!!!!

link (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomvanriper/2012/04/04/the-best-cities-for-raising-a-family/)

:D

[boisecynic]

Greenbelt and Harris Ranch update, sort of:

A new section of greenbelt at Harris Ranch now extends from a point near the north end of East Parkcenter Bridge eastward all the way to Eckert. This is part of a realignment that's part of the Harris Ranch Specific Plan. I believe the old section of greenbelt along Warm Springs will be ceded to the Harris Ranch development. That's probably why it hasn't been repaved though it needs it. The new section is super nice and ends up much closer to the river.

Future phases show it extending from Eckert eastward behind the Mill District of Harris Ranch and connecting with Lysted, where I'm guessing it will continue with it's current alignment next to WS Ave.

New homes continue to be built north of Parkcenter and on each side of the Warm Springs dogleg. Each district has its own name, can't remember the name of the one currently being developed.

For more in depth reading see this (huge PDF): http://www.cityofboise.org/city_clerk/harrisranchcid/122110/engineer.pdf
See also: Barber Valley Specific Plan http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/PDS/PDF/Misc/BarberValley/02.%20Narrative/02-BarberValleySpecificPlanNarrativeGP05.pdf

On page 15 is this:

http://i.imgur.com/ExjDl.jpg

Yellow line is newly paved Main Greenbelt in its new alignement, red is proposed and a guess. I've seen the actual document that details the route but can't find it now. The path system connecting the EPCB to the Greenbelt is now complete with good access on both sides of the bridge on both sides of the river.
http://i.imgur.com/uqUCl.jpg

[BoiseAirport]

Hmm... you guys think there's enough interest in starting a thread for miscellaneous non-development related news in downtown? Maybe a thread dedicated to food, art, music, etc. updates?

Food trucks not allowed in center of downtown Boise


April 14th, 2012

http://www.ktvb.com/news/business/Food-trucks-not-allowed-in-center-of-downtown-Boise-147474495.html

BOISE -- It's been a food truck rally weekend in the Treasure Valley. On Friday, the mobile kitchens were in Boise. On Saturday, four food trucks kicked off the trend in Nampa in Lloyd Square.

...

The rallies come partly as a fun way to do business, but they're also the result of a need for truck owners to be creative and draw a crowd to them. That's because kitchens on wheels aren't allowed on public streets in the heart of downtown Boise.

...

Berryhill says while it would add competition, he says he likes trucks and wouldn't be totally against mobile competitors.

"I think because of this cool factor they have, I believe that they can bring more diners into downtown Boise," Berryhill said. "We like to be a culinary spot. That's a big thing. It develops culture for downtown Boise."

[boisecynic]

Hmm... you guys think there's enough interest in starting a thread for miscellaneous non-development related news in downtown? Maybe a thread dedicated to food, art, music, etc. updates?


Personally, I really dislike thread proliferation. Nitty gritty planning and zoning discussions when they come up almost never take up much room of the main Boise thread.

Regarding the Food Trucks, they don't pay property taxes, sewer bills, or DBA fees that the fixed restaurants have to pay. This is an unfair competitive advantage. Fixed restaurants also have a zillion other P&Z regulation hoops to jump through. It's possible to argue that a few years of a slew of food trucks parked downtown would drive quite a few restaurants out of business. Is this what we really want? How do other cities do it? In my travels I don't ever recall seeing any downtown flooded with food trucks. Food trucks evolved or were allowed to evolve to serve far flung places like construction sites where there were no restaurants around and the slaves construction workers only get half hour lunches.

If they can sell food out of trucks parked on downtown streets, why can't I bring in motor homes at night and rent hotel rooms? I think hourly rates could be a big hit too! Everyone needs a nap right? It could prevent a lot of drunk driving too.

I wish I had the $$$ to try and pull off a stunt like this just to see how the City would react and how the news would spin it.

[BoiseAirport]

Personally, I really dislike thread proliferation. Nitty gritty planning and zoning discussions when they come up almost never take up much room of the main Boise thread.

Regarding the Food Trucks, they don't pay property taxes, sewer bills, or DBA fees that the fixed restaurants have to pay. This is an unfair competitive advantage. Fixed restaurants also have a zillion other P&Z regulation hoops to jump through. It's possible to argue that a few years of a slew of food trucks parked downtown would drive quite a few restaurants out of business. Is this what we really want? How do other cities do it? In my travels I don't ever recall seeing any downtown flooded with food trucks. Food trucks evolved or were allowed to evolve to serve far flung places like construction sites where there were no restaurants around and the slaves construction workers only get half hour lunches.

If they can sell food out of trucks parked on downtown streets, why can't I bring in motor homes at night and rent hotel rooms? I think hourly rates could be a big hit too! Everyone needs a nap right? It could prevent a lot of drunk driving too.

I wish I had the $$$ to try and pull off a stunt like this just to see how the City would react and how the news would spin it.

Oh I know, I was more referring to a thread for discussions about stuff like this food truck discussion, restaurants, concerts, art galleries, events, Treefort, and other things that don't have to do with P&Z, Design Review, Architecture, Development, etc. I only mention it because there are a lot of articles I've wanted to post and talk about, but I didn't want to clog the development thread as they weren't development related.

Personally as a customer I love food trucks. Are they an unfair advantage? Maybe, I'm not in the business so I don't have an informed opinion there. Take Austin for example (since I think Austin is what Boise could look like 20-30 years from now) -- their downtown is flooded with food trucks, but they don't seem to have an epidemic of restaurants going under. In fact, from the people I know there, they absolutely rave about it, and I can see why having visited a few downtowns dotted with food trucks. I don't know how they do it, but perhaps that's a model to follow? Plus, I have to imagine the climate would outweigh an unfair advantage -- customers are much more likely to eat inside during the cold winter months as opposed to outside, and food trucks can't provide that.

To me, food trucks can really add to the outdoor atmosphere that makes Boise so wonderful in the summer time, and many of them are locally owned and operated, which is far better than just another chain restaurant. I think the ban should be lifted, but I'm all ears to what you think.

[Cottonwood]

Hmm... you guys think there's enough interest in starting a thread for miscellaneous non-development related news in downtown? Maybe a thread dedicated to food, art, music, etc. updates?


Personally, I really dislike thread proliferation. Nitty gritty planning and zoning discussions when they come up almost never take up much room of the main Boise thread.



I like your idea BoiseAirport, I have often thought about a misc thread for food, art, music, the Boise scene, etc. but I feel boisecynic has a point and that we should just discuss the Boise scene in this thread. I personally do not think it is out of line to discuss lifestyle in this thread, I have posted several lifestyle posts in the past, a few people seem to have had personal issues with it, (what does this have to do with development?!?) but I do not think it is off topic at all to discuss that information in this thread. Besides, Boise forumers can either be active or very quiet, if a lifestyle thread is posted, there may only be a few who participate. It is up to you, your choice, but either way I will participate.:tup:

[Bodo_business]

From the steps of the old Borah Federal Building. Have always loved the density of this view corridor.

http://weech.smugmug.com/Other/link/i-QgvvP5F/0/L/CA04161212580515-L.jpg (http://weech.smugmug.com/Other/link/8862432_2Svgfz#!i=1797756783&k=QgvvP5F&lb=1&s=A)

[Hawk]

I've personally have wanted a 1 block section of food trucks and huts like what portland has downtown.

[Sawtooth]

I truly appreciate the food trucks, but I would not want to see them right in the center of downtown such as the 8th Street area or even between 11th and 6th because it would seem cluttered. Several trucks hang out on the edge of the main central core and I feel it works well for them, there are so many restaurants and variety in the central core as it is.


Just my opinion, but I do not want to go to Baguette to get a bowl of pho and see a taco truck parked on narrow 8th Street in front of Bag's. I do dig the taco truck that usually parks on 6th and State during the lunch hour.


I went to a food truck rally a few weeks ago at the Red Lion Downtowner parking lot and it was a great event. Boise has a lot going for it with the unique food trucks and the restaurants we have downtown.

[Visualize]

Regarding the Food Trucks, they don't pay property taxes, sewer bills, or DBA fees that the fixed restaurants have to pay. This is an unfair competitive advantage. Fixed restaurants also have a zillion other P&Z regulation hoops to jump through. It's possible to argue that a few years of a slew of food trucks parked downtown would drive quite a few restaurants out of business. Is this what we really want? How do other cities do it? In my travels I don't ever recall seeing any downtown flooded with food trucks. Food trucks evolved or were allowed to evolve to serve far flung places like construction sites where there were no restaurants around and the slaves construction workers only get half hour lunches.

If they can sell food out of trucks parked on downtown streets, why can't I bring in motor homes at night and rent hotel rooms? I think hourly rates could be a big hit too! Everyone needs a nap right? It could prevent a lot of drunk driving too.

I wish I had the $$$ to try and pull off a stunt like this just to see how the City would react and how the news would spin it.

I completely agree with you. I think your analogy is pretty funny and spot on....and not a half bad idea.

[Cottonwood]

http://policy.rutgers.edu/faculty/pucher/bikepaths.pdf
Cycling to work in 90 large American cities: new
evidence on the role of bike paths and lanes

Ralph Buehler • John Pucher
Published online: 6 July 2011
 Springer Science+Business Media, LLC. 2011





go to page 5 of the above link for the Top Ten Cities by daily bike commuting levels, 2006-2008. Boise is #4 behind Portland, Madison and Minneapolis, and in front of Seattle. I bet Boise is still currently at this level of bike commuters in 2012, and probably higher.

[City Of Trees]

http://policy.rutgers.edu/faculty/pucher/bikepaths.pdf
Cycling to work in 90 large American cities: new
evidence on the role of bike paths and lanes

Ralph Buehler • John Pucher
Published online: 6 July 2011
 Springer Science+Business Media, LLC. 2011

go to page 5 of the above link for the Top Ten Cities by daily bike commuting levels, 2006-2008. Boise is #4 behind Portland, Madison and Minneapolis, and in front of Seattle. I bet Boise is still currently at this level of bike commuters in 2012, and probably higher.I do my part to contribute to that number almost every day! :tup:

I'd be really curious to find out if Minneapolis has greater seasonal variances. Even I, who does bikes in the winter here in Boise, get a shiver down my spine thinking about biking in Minnesota in January.

[Cottonwood]

I like this idea, bike sharing, and Boise is The bike city, but doesn't everyone already have their own bike here? :) obviously a few do not.


http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/re-cycle-bike-share-program-could-roll-soon/Content?oid=2638355

Re-Cycle: Bike share program could roll soon
by Andrew Crisp @andrewcrisp



A bike share program in downtown Boise is moving forward. The effort includes the Central District Health Department and Capital City Development Corporation as partners. The project could put as many as 140 bikes at 10 stations throughout the downtown area.

"We're a bike-friendly city," said Karen Sanders, Downtown Boise Association's executive director. "It makes sense to offer bicycles."

With a green light, which could come as soon as May, Boiseans could rent a bike, ride to their destination, and then park the bicycle at another station. Ideally, the rental would be free for the first 30 minutes, with membership plans available, said Dave Fotsch, CDHD's public relations officer.

[Boisebro]

I like this idea, bike sharing, and Boise is The bike city, but doesn't everyone already have their own bike here? :) obviously a few do not.


http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/re-cycle-bike-share-program-could-roll-soon/Content?oid=2638355

Re-Cycle: Bike share program could roll soon
by Andrew Crisp @andrewcrisp



A bike share program in downtown Boise is moving forward. The effort includes the Central District Health Department and Capital City Development Corporation as partners. The project could put as many as 140 bikes at 10 stations throughout the downtown area.

"We're a bike-friendly city," said Karen Sanders, Downtown Boise Association's executive director. "It makes sense to offer bicycles."

With a green light, which could come as soon as May, Boiseans could rent a bike, ride to their destination, and then park the bicycle at another station. Ideally, the rental would be free for the first 30 minutes, with membership plans available, said Dave Fotsch, CDHD's public relations officer.


i'd love something like this as part of the greenbelt so when people come to visit we can rent bikes and spend time exploring the area. maybe have rental areas all along the greenbelt, with a large one near the city center with easy access to parking.

:tup:

[Saturnfromboise]

I like this idea, bike sharing, and Boise is The bike city, but doesn't everyone already have their own bike here? :) obviously a few do not.


http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/re-cycle-bike-share-program-could-roll-soon/Content?oid=2638355

Re-Cycle: Bike share program could roll soon
by Andrew Crisp @andrewcrisp



A bike share program in downtown Boise is moving forward. The effort includes the Central District Health Department and Capital City Development Corporation as partners. The project could put as many as 140 bikes at 10 stations throughout the downtown area.

"We're a bike-friendly city," said Karen Sanders, Downtown Boise Association's executive director. "It makes sense to offer bicycles."

With a green light, which could come as soon as May, Boiseans could rent a bike, ride to their destination, and then park the bicycle at another station. Ideally, the rental would be free for the first 30 minutes, with membership plans available, said Dave Fotsch, CDHD's public relations officer.

This is gonna be awesome for our city and the greenbelt :). Man i love this city.

[City Of Trees]

Great article in the Statesman today describing how far downtown has come since its nadir in the mid-80s. It also demonstrates something how critical Kempthorne's role in the transformation was--something that can sometimes be eye-opening for my left wing friends who only knew of his career as a US senator and governor.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/18/2080098/gov-kempthorne-reminds-boise-about.html

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[boisecynic]

I love it when this stuff comes up. It's a good time to repost this: "The Rebirth of Downtown Boise"

MIT Master's Thesis by Matthew Smith, 2000: http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/32192/48455636.pdf?sequence=1

It's the most comprehensive and objective piece of writing I've ever found on the history of that era.

[BoiseAirport]

I love it when this stuff comes up. It's a good time to repost this:

MIT Master's Thesis by Matthew Smith, 2000: http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/hand...pdf?sequence=1

It's the most comprehensive and objective piece of writing I've ever found on the history of that era.

Edit: NO, NO, NO it's gone! It was there back in November. Did anyone download that and save it?

I think the link might've copied incorrectly. Is this what you're looking for? :)

http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/32192/48455636.pdf?sequence=1

[boisecynic]

I think the link might've copied incorrectly. Is this what you're looking for? :)

http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/32192/48455636.pdf?sequence=1

I fixed it, thanks.

Interestingly, Kempthorne is only mentioned twice in that thesis. According to the thesis it was Brent Coles who was most instrumental in breaking the 15 year long downtown mall deadlock. Sandra Forester at the Statesman really leaves out a lot of important stuff.

Quote from page 33

Every month for the next two years of 1984 and 85 Tom Twilegar brought the suburban mall discussion before the council and Brent Coles seconded the motion thus forcing a public debate. For two years the suburban mall, Tom Twilegar and Brent Coles were in the headlines of Boise's newspaper. After the two years of debate over the "suburban mall" vs. the "downtown mall," three city council members and the mayor's seat were up for re-election. Four new people entered the race, all of which supported the suburban mall platform. Dirk Kempthorne, Idaho's current governor, ran for Mayor, and Mike Wetherel, Jay Web, and Sara Baker all ran for city council. Dirk Kempthorne as well as all three of the new city council candidates won their respective offices. In just over two years, Boise had six new city council members and a new mayor.

The new council members, now holding a majority in favor of the suburban mall, asked Brent Coles, now the president of the city council, what he wanted to do with the BRA and the members of its board. The council members and the mayor asked Brent Coles if he wanted to "Sweep the board or mend the community?" Brent Coles agreed to do his part in trying to mend the community. The new city council decided to increase the number of people on the BRA's board members and slowly have the people not in favor of the suburban mall fall out or leave of their own accord. The stalemate had finally ended.

In other words, it was Coles' call to sweep the board. He didn't.

[City Of Trees]

There's probably plenty more of behind the scenes actors that were involved as well. As you illustrate, it took a large team to finally get things shifted in the right direction.

[Cottonwood]

Good stuff. I have said it many times in the past that Boise is a perfect example of how not having a tacky mall downtown, among other things, has created a vibrant model of a downtown for other cities to look to. I have lived in a few other cities in the past that do have malls in their downtowns and they lack the vibrancy that smaller Boise has, those cities feel very corporate with no soul, they are sterile. Boise is the opposite, our downtown is like a huge comfortable living room.

[City Of Trees]

Good stuff. I have said it many times in the past that Boise is a perfect example of how not having a tacky mall downtown, among other things, has created a vibrant model of a downtown for other cities to look to. I have lived in a few other cities in the past that do have malls in their downtowns and they lack the vibrancy that smaller Boise has, those cities feel very corporate with no soul, they are sterile. Boise is the opposite, our downtown is like a huge comfortable living room.I will say this, though, I always have had a soft spot for Pioneer Place in Portland. That's a downtown mall model I could be OK with.

[Cottonwood]

I will say this, though, I always have had a soft spot for Pioneer Place in Portland. That's a downtown mall model I could be OK with.

Pioneer Place is a good example of a downtown mall done right. I should have clarified that I am referring to larger malls in downtown cores that are large enough to be a suburban mall (including malls that are labeled lifestyle centers too).

[JustakidfromBoise]

I often wonder what Boise would be like if the downtown mall fiasco had never occurred in the first place.

[Evo5Boise]

Wow, that picture is a trip to look at. It's amazing some of the things you forget about. Boise surely has come a long ways. I love old Boise pictures.

[City Of Trees]

I often wonder what Boise would be like if the downtown mall fiasco had never occurred in the first place.No kidding. While it's unlikely that every single building in the BRA's path would have been saved, it would have been cool if we still had the continuous corridor of historic buildings down the stretch of Main Street. Today, we really only have that in pieces between 5th & Capitol, and again between about 10th & 11th.

[BoiseAirport]

Boise lands a company that could add 250 jobs


April 19th, 2012

Read More: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/19/2081849/california-company-to-open-boise.html#storylink=omni_popular#wgt=pop

Central Garden & Pet Co., based in Walnut Creek, Calif., will occupy a former Hewlett-Packard Co. call center at 9390 W. Golden Trout St., west of Boise Towne Square mall.

“This is a group bringing 250 professional, salaried jobs,” said Clark Krause, executive director of the Boise Valley Economic Partnership, who began working with the company last June. “These are the types of jobs we need to bring to the Valley.”


http://www.designingspaces.tv/images/show_segment_v2/logo/thumbs/000/808.jpg

[el conquistador]

Great news, Airport!:tup:

[Boisebro]

anyone have access to the full Emporis website?

they currently list 15 buildings planned for boise, which is much higher than we've heard.

i'm know the content is exclusive to subscribers, but i'm just wondering if someone has access and can let us know if we've missed something.

[Evo5Boise]

I remember back when not only was Emporis a much different/better website but it was also FREE!

[BoiseAirport]

anyone have access to the full Emporis website?

they currently list 15 buildings planned for boise, which is much higher than we've heard.

i'm know the content is exclusive to subscribers, but i'm just wondering if someone has access and can let us know if we've missed something.

I don't have a subscription, but I searched up "Boise" to see all of the buildings I could find. It's mostly an old list, but they do have Eighth and Main listed too. I couldn't find the 15th planned building.

Eighth and Main (listed as Zions Bank Headquarters)
Boise Place
Capitol Plaza I
Capitol Plaza II
Capital Terrace Apartments
C-Squared Condominiums (23-floors)
C-Squared Office Tower (6-floors)
C-Squared Tower 3 (9-floors)
C-Squared Tower 4 (7-floors)
Brix Condominiums
Marriott Convention Center Hotel
Boise Park West (I think this is the Whole Foods condo/hotel phase development)
916 Park (showing 7 floors, I think this is the old proposal)
603 Plaza (4-floor condo) :shrug:


*sigh* C-Squared would've been nothing short of amazing. I would happily trade the Aspen for the C-Squared development.

[Cottonwood]

I know someone here in the past has mentioned having access to Emporis....but I cannot remember who it was.

[BrianInBoise]

Cottonwood I believe it was alphawolf with the access to emporius. I found one of my old posts on the topic.

[Sawtooth]

Today is a beautiful spring day, The Race to Robie Creek, the toughest race in the Northwest and probably anywhere is taking place, the Saturday Market began downtown for the season, people are out in mad force riding bikes, walking around, wearing shorts and birks and drinking iced coffee, tasting wine, basically Boise at its best. Ok, so I partook of several wine tastings at the market with a few buds and it was not even 1pm yet.:D

But then there was a loud boom while we were deep in the crowds on 8th Street and then black smoke and it almost looked like the Hampton Inn @ BoDo was on fire, but it was the gas station on Myrtle and Capitol.

Of course I had my camera with me. Almost 4$ a gallon for gas, thanks
Mr. Obama.


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On the walk back to 8th, I noticed a new seafood restaurant is opening in BoDo. This place should give Bonefish a run for its money.


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And back at the Market.


http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/Idahomajesty/2012April/DSC_0100.jpg

[Saturnfromboise]

Yeah the gas prices arnt presidents Obamas fault ;). Do you guys not remember when it was over 4 dollars before Obama was even elected..... *shakes head*

[BoiseAirport]

Hey Sawtooth, was that you that I walked right past?? :D

I was right there when it happened as well, and I too had my camera. I was in shorts and a black collered t-shirt, and I was walking with my Dad, we were checking out the public market. We were right at BoDo, saw the smoke, and started walking toward the gas station to see what was up. There was a guy standing there with a camera and he told us he thought a motorcycle caught fire (which appears to have been true looking at your photos) -- was that you? My Dad wanted to get closer and get lots of pictures/videos, but I pulled him back as it didn't look safe and pictures weren't worth getting in danger for.

Today was just a perfect day in Boise. Just simply perfect. I got over 500 photos of all around downtown. The weather was gorgeous, the flowers and trees were all blossoming, the streets had the wonderful aromas of food throughout, and people were everywhere soaking the sights and sounds in. Days like these are why I have such excessive love and pride for my hometown. :)

[Sawtooth]

:haha: Funny to read that my silly tongue in cheek remark is what stood out the most in my photo post.

[Sawtooth]

Hey Sawtooth, was that you that I walked right past?? :D

I was right there when it happened as well, and I too had my camera. I was in shorts and a black collered t-shirt, and I was walking with my Dad, we were checking out the public market. We were right at BoDo, saw the smoke, and started walking toward the gas station to see what was up. There was a guy standing there with a camera and he told us he thought a motorcycle caught fire (which appears to have been true looking at your photos) -- was that you? My Dad wanted to get closer and get lots of pictures/videos, but I pulled him back as it didn't look safe and pictures weren't worth getting in danger for.

Today was just a perfect day in Boise. Just simply perfect. I got over 500 photos of all around downtown. The weather was gorgeous, the flowers and trees were all blossoming, the streets had the wonderful aromas of food throughout, and people were everywhere soaking the sights and sounds in. Days like these are why I have such excessive love and pride for my hometown. :)


Wow, we may have seen each other. I was with three other people and they were standing by me when I took the photos, one of my friends had a dog on a leash. There were also about a half dozen other people taking photos by me too. We were there right as the cops closed off Myrtle at 9th because there were too many cars being forced onto 8th Street. Lots of people were loitering on Myrtle looking at the left over carnage.

[BoiseAirport]

Wow, we may have seen each other. I was with three other people and they were standing by me when I took the photos, one of my friends had a dog on a leash. There were also about a half dozen other people taking photos by me too. We were there right as the cops closed off Myrtle at 9th because there were too many cars being forced onto 8th Street. Lots of people were loitering on Myrtle looking at the left over carnage.

Ha, nice! We're probably somewhere in each others' photos, I'll bet we crossed paths at some point.

Here are some of the photos I got of the fire.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5118/7099841791_d7fca7ecd7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099841791/)
2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099841791/) by N437QX (http://www.flickr.com/people/76480796@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7138/7099842693_ed7277dbc3_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099842693/)
3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099842693/) by N437QX (http://www.flickr.com/people/76480796@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7260/7099841341_446f0a2c1f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099841341/)
1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099841341/) by N437QX (http://www.flickr.com/people/76480796@N08/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5449/7099842201_f4cd58deaf_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099842201/)
4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76480796@N08/7099842201/) by N437QX (http://www.flickr.com/people/76480796@N08/), on Flickr

[Sawtooth]

Great shots, I was not able to get there until after the fire was put out. Do you know if anybody was hurt? I am surprised there were not any charred cars, the station must have been quiet when it happened.

[City Of Trees]

Regarding that seafood restaurant, there's also a Fresh Off The Hook in the mini-mall on the west side of the Milwaukee curve. I enjoy that place, and will be happy that there will be one in nearby downtown.

[Cottonwood]

Good stuff Sawtooth and BoiseAirport. It' like local news SSP style.

[Bodo_business]

Dave and Busters Coming to Boise---Been hearing this rumor for quite a while, but looks to be official now. Story here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/23/2089019/dave-and-busters-coming-to-boise.html

From a general economy perspective, this is good news, as D&B does a ton of research before moving into a market given scale of the investment that they make in each location. :cheers:

[boi2socal]

That is good economic news. I find the concept strange and the crowd is kind of, well, different from my experiences there.

[Bodo_business]

From TOK's website: Slanted Rock Brewing Company - Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Slanted Rock Brewing Company leased 3,557 square feet of retail space in the High Desert Marketplace located at 2374 E. Cinema Drive in Meridian, ID. Slanted Rock Brewing Company is a microbrewer who will offer tasting room and mass produced beverages to local restaurants. Brianna Hansen and Scott Raeber, CCIM of Thornton Oliver Keller represented the tenant.
http://www.tokcommercial.com/MarketInformation/RecentNewsDeals.aspx

Breweries seem to be sprouting up like weeds in the Boise area and I know of at least three others (unannounced) that are in the planning stages at the moment. Hopefully one of these new or existing players really executes well and turns into a true regional powerhouse. It is great to see expansion in this segment, but I'm sure a couple of these will be gone withing a few years. Like any market that gets overheated, only those with adequate financing, good product, and capable marketing will survive. In the meantime, it will be fun to sample all of the offerings. :cheers::cheers:

[Boisebro]

i've been to dave and busters in austin and in virginia. decent food, i thought... and a good way to entertain the kids while you're quaffing draughts. :)

what we need now is a good BBQ place downtown... like a goodwood or mickey ray's. us downtown workers need our BBQ, dangnambit!!!

[City Of Trees]

From TOK's website: Slanted Rock Brewing Company - Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Slanted Rock Brewing Company leased 3,557 square feet of retail space in the High Desert Marketplace located at 2374 E. Cinema Drive in Meridian, ID. Slanted Rock Brewing Company is a microbrewer who will offer tasting room and mass produced beverages to local restaurants. Brianna Hansen and Scott Raeber, CCIM of Thornton Oliver Keller represented the tenant.
http://www.tokcommercial.com/MarketInformation/RecentNewsDeals.aspx

Breweries seem to be sprouting up like weeds in the Boise area and I know of at least three others (unannounced) that are in the planning stages at the moment. Hopefully one of these new or existing players really executes well and turns into a true regional powerhouse. It is great to see expansion in this segment, but I'm sure a couple of these will be gone withing a few years. Like any market that gets overheated, only those with adequate financing, good product, and capable marketing will survive. In the meantime, it will be fun to sample all of the offerings. :cheers::cheers:Pretty much every state surrounding Idaho has well outpaced it in the brewery department. It's good to see some attempts at catching up. :cheers:

[TonyAnderson]

Dave and Busters Coming to Boise---Been hearing this rumor for quite a while, but looks to be official now. Story here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/23/2089019/dave-and-busters-coming-to-boise.html

From a general economy perspective, this is good news, as D&B does a ton of research before moving into a market given scale of the investment that they make in each location. :cheers:

If true ...many of us here in Utah will be very jealous.

[Boise Benchman]

I had heard that an Ulta (cosmetics/fragrance) store was opening in that location. To be next to Nordstrom's Rack... hmmmmm...

[Bodo_business]

Pretty much every state surrounding Idaho has well outpaced it in the brewery department. It's good to see some attempts at catching up. :cheers:

Very true. Even Utah has enjoyed much more of the boom than we have. Until Sockeye's recent expansion push, most of the established breweries in Boise have been pretty quiet. I think the arrival of Payette, Crooked Fence, 10 Barrel, et al, kicked the competition up a level and hopefully that results in better beer from all of them.

Both of Idaho's iconic and bottling brewers (Laughing Dog and Grand Teton) are nowhere near us. I do hope that out of the recent activity a few strong players emerge and that someday people will be able to buy Boise brew outside the Treasure Valley.

:cheers:

[Cottonwood]

Very true. Even Utah has enjoyed much more of the boom than we have. Until Sockeye's recent expansion push, most of the established breweries in Boise have been pretty quiet. I think the arrival of Payette, Crooked Fence, 10 Barrel, et al, kicked the competition up a level and hopefully that results in better beer from all of them.

Both of Idaho's iconic and bottling brewers (Laughing Dog and Grand Teton) are nowhere near us. I do hope that out of the recent activity a few strong players emerge and that someday people will be able to buy Boise brew outside the Treasure Valley.

:cheers:

A cool fact is that most of the ingredients they use down south are grown in Idaho. I really like how the local beer industry in Idaho is booming. Each region of the state has their own breweries..even Pocatello.

[Bodo_business]

A cool fact is that most of the ingredients they use down south are grown in Idaho...

Most of the hops and barley grown here end up being used by the big commercial brewers, but some of it makes it way into microbrews. Grand Teton did an all Idaho Pale Ale last year.

http://www.brewbound.com/news/grand-teton-brewing-co-makes-all-idaho-brew

:cheers:

[Cottonwood]

I should have been more specific...most of the ingredients used in the fine pubs in SLC (down south) come from Idaho growers. Idaho Vodka seems to be the rage now and of course our wines become more popular and known as each year passes. Our state produces some really high quality world class drink. It's good for the economy.


http://www.boiseweekly.com/Cobweb/archives/2012/04/23/the-taphouse-gears-up-for-grand-opening-thursday

The Taphouse Gears Up for Grand Opening Thursday
Posted by Tara Morgan on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM


Heads up, beer nerds: The former Lobby space at 760 W. Main St. has officially been transformed into The Taphouse. Though the pub had been shooting for a February grand opening, it missed the mark by a couple months. Co-owner Brian Forde confirmed that the space will host a soft opening for friends and family Tuesday, April 24, and Wednesday, April 25, before a public grand opening on Thursday, April 26.

The restaurant will boast a full bar, a patio and 44 taps, 34 of which will be in constant rotation.

“We’ve got about 10 that are brewed right here in Boise, a handful more that are from Idaho, and then pretty much all the rest are from the Northwest,” said Forde.

[Bodo_business]

Poked my head in the Taphouse the other day while on my lunch walk. While they were still finishing up minor construction, it looks like it will be a great new option in downtown Boise. Great news to hear that they will have a selection of $2 micro's during happy hour....it can get expensive to have a beer downtown, with many places charging $6 even during happy hour.

[Cottonwood]

Dave and Busters Coming to Boise---Been hearing this rumor for quite a while, but looks to be official now. Story here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/23/2089019/dave-and-busters-coming-to-boise.html

From a general economy perspective, this is good news, as D&B does a ton of research before moving into a market given scale of the investment that they make in each location. :cheers:

Ironic that there have been Dave and Buster adds on TV locally for a while now...kind of like they were teasing us. H&M advertises locally too, so maybe they are in Boise's future expansion plans.



I had heard that an Ulta (cosmetics/fragrance) store was opening in that location. To be next to Nordstrom's Rack... hmmmmm...

The Statesman has an article about Ultra opening next to Dave and Busters.

Retail and restaurant announcements are really exploding in the valley.:5:

[kidboise]

H&M would be wonderful. :)

[Cottonwood]

Yay...our tax money will be used to fix the damage occupy Boise has done to the grounds. :slob:


http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2012/04/26/occupy-boise-holds-up-construction-at-old-courthouse

Occupy Boise Holds Up Construction at Old Courthouse
Posted by Andrew Crisp on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Teresa Luna, director of the Idaho Department of Administration, is patiently waiting for one tent to move from the Old Ada County Courthouse lawn.

“When the Occupy Boise group first moved in, during November of last year, we notified them at that time that the Annex was an ongoing construction process,” said Luna.





and




http://www.ktvb.com/news/politics/Idaho-enacts-new-rules-restricting-protests-149081595.html

Idaho enacts new rules restricting protests
by Associated Press
KTVB.COM
Posted on April 26, 2012 at 10:46 AM


BOISE -- The Idaho Department of Administration has released new rules governing public demonstrations on state property -- including the grounds of the old Ada County Courthouse where Occupy Boise resides.

[Bodo_business]

Good news for the State and Gary Lane area. According to IBR, the Shadow Hills Square site will be back on the market soon and at least a couple of developers are interested (Subscription required-- http://idahobusinessreview.com/2012/04/25/shadow-hills-square-site-in-play-at-state-gary/). This site has been tied up in the DBSI bankruptcy for years. Before the downturn and DBSI's financial issues, there were some pretty aggressive plans for this site, so will be interesting to see what happens. Is probably the last big, contiguous portion of property in that part of town.

[Visualize]

Good news for the State and Gary Lane area. According to IBR, the Shadow Hills Square site will be back on the market soon and at least a couple of developers are interested (Subscription required-- http://idahobusinessreview.com/2012/04/25/shadow-hills-square-site-in-play-at-state-gary/). This site has been tied up in the DBSI bankruptcy for years. Before the downturn and DBSI's financial issues, there were some pretty aggressive plans for this site, so will be interesting to see what happens. Is probably the last big, contiguous portion of property in that part of town.

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http://www.shadowhillsboise.com/Flyer.pdf

I've always wondered about that site, and seen a lot of potential. They will probably develop it similar to previous plans and put in a strip mall, as seen at the link below. I can hope they get a little more creative, but I doubt it, but at least it will fill in another piece.

http://www.cityofboise.org/city_clerk/051507/car07-00023&car07-00024.pdf

[Killa B]

If they try to build anything there the NIMBYs are gonna 5h1t.

[Cottonwood]

If they try to build anything there the NIMBYs are gonna 5h1t.

Occupy Boise should move out to that huge lot and do their occupy thing until construction starts.:haha:

[Bodo_business]

I've always wondered about that site, and seen a lot of potential. They will probably develop it similar to previous plans and put in a strip mall, as seen at the link below. I can hope they get a little more creative, but I doubt it, but at least it will fill in another piece.


Sounds like at least one of the developers may be focused on a big box home improvement as the anchor, whereas before the focus was mostly mid box with Hasting's as the anchor. Hope that Hasting's is still in the mix as that would be a very nice addition to that end of town.

[Boisebro]

Sounds like at least one of the developers may be focused on a big box home improvement as the anchor, whereas before the focus was mostly mid box with Hasting's as the anchor. Hope that Hasting's is still in the mix as that would be a very nice addition to that end of town.


so......

i guess something like this is out of the question?

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/realestate/files/legacy/9292880%20-%20VIDORRA%20CONDOS-thumb-250x291.jpg

:(

[Bodo_business]

so......

i guess something like this is out of the question?

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/realestate/files/legacy/9292880%20-%20VIDORRA%20CONDOS-thumb-250x291.jpg

:(

:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:

That was freakin' funny!!

BTW, what/where is that concept art from?

[Boisebro]

condo proposal in san antonio.

seems like most cities have midrises and high-rises away from the city center, especially residential.

closest we have is the complex on I-84 and eagle road.

another example of a residential high-rise in a residential neighborhood in san antonio:

http://www.emporis.com/images/show/283094-Large.jpg


i remember a few years ago driving into san antonio on I-35 and seeing that off in the distance, wondering how it got through the local NIMBY regiment.

[Bodo_business]

condo proposal in san antonio.

seems like most cities have midrises and high-rises away from the city center, especially residential.

closest we have is the complex on I-84 and eagle road.



More and more common to see mid-rise mixed use clusters away from the city core. I think about the only place that I can see that making sense here is exactly the area that you were calling out. More and more employers are locating near the I-84 Eagle exit. By some estimates, there will be 10,000 new jobs in that area over the next few years. Would only be a matter of time before someone looks at dense housing close to the employers due to the utter gridlock that 10,000 new cars would create (because we know our local politicians would never support better mass transit to get some of those cars off the road :hell::hell: ).

[Bodo_business]

From TOK's website: Slanted Rock Brewing Company - Tuesday, April 17, 2012
Slanted Rock Brewing Company leased 3,557 square feet of retail space in the High Desert Marketplace located at 2374 E. Cinema Drive in Meridian, ID. Slanted Rock Brewing Company is a microbrewer who will offer tasting room and mass produced beverages to local restaurants. Brianna Hansen and Scott Raeber, CCIM of Thornton Oliver Keller represented the tenant.
http://www.tokcommercial.com/MarketInformation/RecentNewsDeals.aspx

Breweries seem to be sprouting up like weeds in the Boise area and I know of at least three others (unannounced) that are in the planning stages at the moment. Hopefully one of these new or existing players really executes well and turns into a true regional powerhouse. It is great to see expansion in this segment, but I'm sure a couple of these will be gone withing a few years. Like any market that gets overheated, only those with adequate financing, good product, and capable marketing will survive. In the meantime, it will be fun to sample all of the offerings. :cheers::cheers:

Follow up to my post of a few days ago in regards to Slanted Rock. Statesman now has a story with a bit more detail: http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/04/26/porr/slanted_rock_brewing_co_expected_open_meridian_fall

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If light rail or BRT was put down State St, which would be a game changer, I think some nice TOD would be just about perfect for this lot considering its overall location, only then would anything half as decent as that San Antonio rendering ever be proposed.

Edit: my comment was supposed to follow Boisebro's but Bodo Business beat me to the overall idea.

[boisecynic]

The current topic was the Glenwood and State area. Wasn't it in the news a year or two ago that GC is considering selling off the fairgrounds. That whole area is seriously underutilized. It could become a new urban center with forward thinking. It's also part of the Hawk's stadium discussion. Redevelop the entire fairgrounds area as mid-rise mixed use and move the Stadium downtown. It's a tough sell in the short run but... To tie this all together, Glenwood is only 3 greenbelt miles from the 36th Street Footbridge and the Whitewater Park.

Anyway, I posted the following pic on reddit. The whitewater park Phase 1 is nearly complete but some of the bank is unprotected and getting trampled. The awesome 90 degree weather of last weekend brought out hundreds of people to the Clocktower Pond and the Wave. About 3 weeks ago Parks fenced about 200' of replanted bank and then stopped. For the life of me I can't figure it out. In the foreground where the people are sitting were more tree saplings which are completely gone for about a 20' stretch.

http://i.imgur.com/tPTaQ.jpg?1
Bank being trampled

[Bodo_business]

The current topic was the Glenwood and State area. Wasn't it in the news a year or two ago that GC is considering selling off the fairgrounds. That whole area is seriously underutilized. It could become a new urban center with forward thinking. It's also part of the Hawk's stadium discussion. Redevelop the entire fairgrounds area as mid-rise mixed use and move the Stadium downtown. It's a tough sell in the short run but... To tie this all together, Glenwood is only 3 greenbelt miles from the 36th Street Footbridge and the Whitewater Park.


Going way back in the memory banks I think I remember a quote from a Garden City official that was something on the order of a development that would give Garden City a "downtown"...so you are probably on the right track.

[Bodo_business]

Sorry for duplicate...where is the delete option?

The current topic was the Glenwood and State area. Wasn't it in the news a year or two ago that GC is considering selling off the fairgrounds. That whole area is seriously underutilized. It could become a new urban center with forward thinking. It's also part of the Hawk's stadium discussion. Redevelop the entire fairgrounds area as mid-rise mixed use and move the Stadium downtown. It's a tough sell in the short run but... To tie this all together, Glenwood is only 3 greenbelt miles from the 36th Street Footbridge and the Whitewater Park.


Going way back in the memory banks I think I remember a quote from a Garden City official that was something on the order of a development that would give Garden City a "downtown"...so you are probably on the right track.