delts145
May 6, 2011, 12:14 PM
Salt Lake City unveils design for new Public Safety Building
...It will be "net zero," meaning it produces as much energy as it consumes, complete with 30,000 square feet of solar panels, rooftop plants, radiant heating and lights that shut off when natural light is sufficient. A public, tree-filled plaza with free Wi-Fi, also will include solar-powered charging stations for cell phones, iPads and more gadgets..."Quote: The Salt Lake Tribune"
By Pat Reavy
The Deseret News
SALT LAKE CITY — Calling it a "momentous" event and "milestone moment," Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker and other city leaders unveiled the design of the new Public Safety Building Friday.
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Renderings of the future Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City. The building will be net zero, producing as much energy as it uses. (, Salt Lake City)
"This building is really going to establish a new standard for public buildings in the state of Utah," Becker told a small crowd gathered at the Salt Lake City-County Building for the announcement.
The new building, which will house both the Salt Lake City Police and Fire departments as well as the Emergency Operations Center, will be built across from the Salt Lake City Library on 300 East. The design compliments the architecture of the library and includes many windows for natural light.
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Not only will the new Public Safety Building be the "most earthquake-proof building in the state," according to one official, but it will be one of the greenest buildings in Utah, using 30,000 feet of solar panels among other energy-saving measures.
"It's the first net-zero public safety building in the country," Becker said, meaning it will generate as much energy as it uses.
The idea was to not make the new building look like a "fortress," but rather more open and inviting to the public.
However, Salt Lake Police Chief Chris Burbank said it would also be secure and highly functional for law enforcement purposes.
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Deseret News
Earlier Friday, Burbank said he attended the funeral of a retired Salt Lake City Police officer who was the first K-9 officer in the city. Introducing the K-9 program changed how law enforcers policed the city, he said.
"The (new) building is no less significant than that program was some 35 years ago," he said.
In 2009, Salt Lake voters approved a $125 million bond for construction of the new building. Friday, officials said the project was on budget, costing about $77 million for the building itself and just under $120 million to make it functional inside.
A groundbreaking is scheduled for June 1 and completion in May 2013.
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delts145
May 6, 2011, 12:28 PM
... Additional Downtown Updates
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soulcapn
May 6, 2011, 10:09 PM
Renderings for the New Public Safety Complex:
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delts145
May 7, 2011, 1:43 PM
... Downtown Updates
Coming along nicely:
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delts145
May 7, 2011, 5:54 PM
Okay TonyAnderson, you're correct so let me be more specific. SLC is a nice smaller city
but absolutely pales in comparison to what's happening in other cities (i.e., San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Dallas,
Chicago, etc.). Why so much space devoted to SLC? I know, I know, if you don't like it then just don't read it (which
is what I'll do). But, since you asked for specifics, the Public Safety Building is a great example of architects running
out of control. They try to design structures that are pieces of art rather than practical spaces. I look at the strange
angles and angular glass walls and, from my perspective, see wasted space and lots of added dollars paid for by, you
guessed it, the taxpayers. Good luck keeping that glass clean and sealed. Hey, I'm not saying we should all live in
boxes but I am suggesting that we create architecture that is both appealing and practical. My opinion only but the
Public Safety Building misses the mark. (But please don't take that the wrong way douchebag.);)
Seriously, an opinion is an opinion regarding styles, designs etc.,and we should of course be allowed our varying opinions.
I'm just having a difficult time understanding how anyone with even a tiny semblance of architectural or
construction knowledge could refer to this project as impractical. Needless to say, a building that is both
artistically sophisticated ( by unanimous opinion on the intermountain forum) and at the same time achieves a
Net Zero capability is anything but impractical.
Also, your assertion that the tens of billions of dollars being invested in a city and it's metro (population 2.3 million,
rapidly climbing and among the three to five fastest growing in the U.S.) is somehow insignificant makes me wonder
at the very least what type of deck your playing with. Though, I apologize if the problem is only a lack of updated
knowledge. Salt Lake City and it's Wasatch Front MSA/CSA have been over the past few years, and continue to be
one of a handful of current boom areas in the nation. The shear volume and quality of it's commercial, residential,
mass transit and tranportation buildup is very impressive, even from my own Los Angeles perspective.
Yeah, this and dozens of other multi-million/billion dollar projects are comparatively tiny indeed :rolleyes:. Might I suggest
that you skim the last twenty pages of this thread. Hey, you might find it informative. :tup:
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Bromeister,
I'm just noticing that your very new to the forum. I apologize if I've sounded a little too sarcastic. Just a word of
advice, that I also had to learn when I was a new forumer. Lose the presumptive behavior, and first understand the
entire perspective.
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patriotizzy
May 7, 2011, 7:02 PM
Okay TonyAnderson, you're correct so let me be more specific. SLC is a nice smaller city but absolutely pales in comparison to what's happening in other cities (i.e., San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Dallas, Chicago, etc.). Why so much space devoted to SLC? I know, I know, if you don't like it then just don't read it (which is what I'll do). But, since you asked for specifics, the Public Safety Building is a great example of architects running out of control. They try to design structures that are pieces of art rather than practical spaces. I look at the strange angles and angular glass walls and, from my perspective, see wasted space and lots of added dollars paid for by, you guessed it, the taxpayers. Good luck keeping that glass clean and sealed. Hey, I'm not saying we should all live in boxes but I am suggesting that we create architecture that is both appealing and practical. My opinion only but the Public Safety Building misses the mark. (But please don't take that the wrong way douchebag.);)
I can see you getting banned in the near future. Good luck. As for the Public Safety Building, it looks sweet!
delts145
May 8, 2011, 12:09 PM
Downtown - Questar Update
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TonyAnderson
May 8, 2011, 6:23 PM
Okay TonyAnderson, you're correct so let me be more specific. SLC is a nice smaller city but absolutely pales in comparison to what's happening in other cities (i.e., San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Dallas, Chicago, etc.). Why so much space devoted to SLC? I know, I know, if you don't like it then just don't read it (which is what I'll do). But, since you asked for specifics, the Public Safety Building is a great example of architects running out of control. They try to design structures that are pieces of art rather than practical spaces. I look at the strange angles and angular glass walls and, from my perspective, see wasted space and lots of added dollars paid for by, you guessed it, the taxpayers. Good luck keeping that glass clean and sealed. Hey, I'm not saying we should all live in boxes but I am suggesting that we create architecture that is both appealing and practical. My opinion only but the Public Safety Building misses the mark. (But please don't take that the wrong way douchebag.);)
Cities like Chicago, Seattle, and San Fran (I'd argue there's not much GOOD development occurring in Dallas) are much larger and always have more going on than 99% of American cities. Still, Salt Lake is booming at a tremendous rate at this moment.
Regarding the Public Safety building, it sounds like you're saying you don't like it because it's not boring enough? It's nice to see civic / governmental / public buildings actually having a nice design to them. It goes along well with our civic campus being created which includes recent additions like the new library:
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And new Federal Courthouse under construction:
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There's also the more traditional style of the recently built State courthouse:
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All connected to the historic City and County building:
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(c) Todd McKinley (Tmac)
The most refreshing thing about the new building is the openness / civic space as Salt Lake continues to build upon its civic campus.
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delts145
May 9, 2011, 1:08 PM
The Rio Tinto Center - Natural History Museum Update...http://umnh.utah.edu/newmuseum
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Natural Materials and Sustainable Building, The Rio Tinto Center will be built to LEED-certified
building standards and adorned with about 42,000 square feet of copper on the building's exterior. The copper, mined
from Kennecott's Bingham Canyon Mine, is in the process of being installed.
Here is a picture I took several weeks ago.
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Often I'm not a big fan of the whole 'meld the architecture with it's surrounding's design'. However, I'm really digging on
Salt Lake's new Natural History Museum. Maybe it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm crushin on it in a big way.
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Utah Museum of Natural History By Stevena07
Post finals update. 5/7/11
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scottharding
May 9, 2011, 4:23 PM
I do love the look of the new Natural History Museum, but I lament how inaccessable it is. Even by road it's gonna be hastle to get to or find, let alone mass transit.
delts145
May 10, 2011, 2:52 AM
I understand what your saying, and I along with many others have thought how nice it would be if it were located in the CBD. Then again, the fact that it will be a major world exibit of Natural History does lend itself to it's location at the foot of the Wasatch Mountains. Thankfully, Salt Lake's Wasatch Mtn. bench is within city limits.
While I'm not currently a resident of Salt Lake City, I used to live in the Olympus Cove area. Compared to my experience with other metros, the greater University area was comparatively very convenient. For example, in L.A. I live in a very central location of the city along Wilshire Blvd. As the crow flies, I'm probably within a shorter distance of several major exibits and museums in L.A. than I would have been from the Univ. of Ut. to my old neighborhood adj. to Salt Lake. However, because of Salt Lake proper and metro's extremely advantageous layout and highway infrastructure to resident ratio, the practical commute to the Rio Tinto Center would be far more convenient than for me to travel to many of the closer exibits here in L.A.
Also, I'm trying to think of similar museums located in as natural a setting, with that kind of spectacular rugged backdrop, yet minutes from an international airport or downtown. At the same time it's within walking, jogging, cycling distance of a major portion of the City/Metro and University.
It's hard to imagine a more beautiful backdrop than this, not to mention the elevated views across the valley and toward the Great Salt Lake, with it's phenomenal daily sunsets.
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delts145
May 10, 2011, 12:07 PM
Downtown Updates ~ Safdie designed 'Broadway Style' theater for the purpose of major, extended stay productions nears.
Main Street theater: New downtown playhouse would draw big, make money, study says.
Salt Lake Tribune
By derek P. Jensen
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Mayor Ralph Becker’s Broadway dream may be granted — though critics fear a nightmare coming on.
A new study — in the works for a year — heartily endorses Salt Lake City’s vision for a $100-plus million Broadway-class theater, arguing a showcase playhouse would permanently change Main Street’s face and fortunes.
The report predicts a Utah Performing Arts Center at 135 S. Main could buck industry trends by breaking even after five years and then generate $2.5 million annually. It also projects a glass-encased theater built in the shadow of City Creek Center would draw more than 250,000 patrons a year and deliver an additional $9.4 million annually in city sales taxes.
"This new theater will anchor the cultural core of downtown arts venues for the next generation," reads the feasibility study from Garfield Traub Swisher (GTS) and Hamilton Partners, "providing a state-of-the-art venue option for local arts growth, attracting touring Broadway productions sooner, and allowing for extended runs and the expansion of the Broadway series in the market."
The consultants insist a new theater would be a regional attraction and an economic development engine, representing the "logical progression" in the downtown arts scene. The report will be presented to city officials Tuesday.
Becker has made the Broadway-style theater one of his highest priorities since taking office in 2008. The flagging economy has done little to dissuade him, though the first-term mayor concedes funding poses a challenge.
The study suggests 85 percent of the $100 million to $120 million price tag should come through a sales tax or lease revenue bond — which would not require voter approval — but says the "sources of funds for bond repayment would have to be identified." It calls for the balance to be covered by securing federal tax credits and selling naming rights to the theater.
Helen Langan, Becker’s senior adviser, notes the theater cost is $100 million. The extra $20 million in "amenities" could cover shops intended to energize Regent Street, just behind the theater.
The consultants suggest the theater be managed by Salt Lake County — not an independent vendor — to take advantage of the county’s expertise and arts-venue efficiencies. And, they say, a 20- to 25-story office tower — proposed by Hamilton Partners to replace Bennion Jewelers on the southeast corner of 100 South and Main — would provide the ideal transition between the LDS Church’s City Creek Center, set to open next March, and the rest of downtown. The retail-anchored tower would connect with the theater via a galleria and shared Main Street entrance.
Parking for up to 650 cars could be provided in a nearby Regent Street garage. If the project gets the nod, estimates predict up to 4,000 construction jobs, more than 100 permanent positions and a $500 million economic boost during the three-year build.
"We asked GTS to take a very, very conservative approach," Langan said. "So we are very pleased to see their projections."
The blueprint calls for a mid-block path to connect Regent and Main streets. The playhouse would offer two balcony galleries, an orchestra pit, a green room and support space large enough to accommodate the Utah Symphony and Opera along with Ballet West. Architects expect those arts groups would frequently use the theater.
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delts145
May 10, 2011, 12:17 PM
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Very exciting stuff!! For me personally, this is one of the projects, along with restoring and converting the Pantages that would make Downtown Salt Lake very hard to resist as a place to relocate. The variety of venue sizes and their total seating numbers for Downtown SLC makes it truly impressive. When you consider the Rose Wagner, Capitol, Abravanel, etc., plus The Assembly Hall, Taberancle, Conference Center's thirty thousand seats, then add in this new theater for the major, 'extended term' broadway productions, along with a restored Pantages and possible film school, Downtown will be unbeatable.
TonyAnderson
May 11, 2011, 1:26 PM
There are definitely a lot of theaters and art venues. I just hope they all can find a purpose.
delts145
May 11, 2011, 2:03 PM
Very true Tony. Though I think Salt Lake City's CBD won't suffer. I'm very impressed with the multi-purpose use that Salt Lake's leadership is currently building into the Capitol Theater, Pantages and Broadway Theater projects. I think though that the U. of U's stellar Theaters like Kingsbury and Pioneer are going to have to become very creative in order to compete. Still, Salt Lake's metro is growing at such an outstanding rate, along with it's huge buildup of metro mass transit, that I think the U. of U. will be okay. This probably will make their job of bringing in the patrons a little more challenging in the first few years, while the city and metro continues to build up. Something else to consider is the Theater District buildup Downtown will be bringing in an ever expanding(I think will be exploding) tourist trade. With SLC already being a top pick for a Winter/Holiday getaways this is only going to put the Downtown visitor/convention trade into an even higher gear. The Univ. of Utah tends to be more of a local draw. Ski, Convention, and Conference goers will all flock to a major theater production. Wow, look how close this theater will be to CCC and the Convention Center.
Broadway-style theater project picks up steam
By Derek P. Jensen
The Salt Lake Tribune
It wasn’t a standing ovation or a glowing review in The New Yorker, but the reaction of the Salt Lake City Council to a proposed $100 million Broadway-style theater was the next best thing: None of the purse-string-clutching members objected.
And for an encore Tuesday, Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon and his deputy said they would be receptive to managing the proposed playhouse.
“It’s what we do best is managing arts and cultural facilities downtown,” Deputy County Mayor Nichole Dunn said. “It would be a natural fit.”
A newly released city-commissioned report by Garfield Traub Swisher (GTS) strongly endorses a new theater at 135 S. Main St. The consultants also urge that the county manage it, saying that such expertise could result in an annual profit of $2.4 million after the first five years.
The City Council will be asked in June to pass a resolution formally endorsing the theater. Such a vote would also direct the Redevelopment Agency of Salt Lake City to pursue a funding strategy, which the GTS report envisions as a combination of sales-tax bonding, federal tax credits and cash from naming rights.
“As long as I’ve been on the council, this section of Main Street has always been a challenge,” said four-term Councilman Carlton Christensen. “I see this as a real changing element for downtown, and I’m pretty excited.”
If Broadway’s “Book of Mormon” ever tours, Councilman J.T. Martin quipped, “maybe we could get the first booking.”
Such a road show seems likely, given that the unexpected hit has been nominated for 14 Tony awards.
No council member voiced reservations about the theater’s price tag or whether the project could siphon dollars and devoted patrons from other arts venues.
For his part, Corroon said he has “some concerns” about how a Broadway-class theater might affect downtown’s Capitol Theatre. County estimates suggest the Capitol could lose as much as $600,000 a year if the new theater comes to town.
“Is a new facility something that is nice to have? Yes,” Corroon said. “It would be great for Salt Lake to have a large, Broadway-style theater that allows shows to come here that otherwise wouldn’t come, or would wait for 10 years to come. The question is, is now the right time?”
As for the county running the theater, Corroon said, “It makes absolute sense.”
The yearlong study, which cost $741,000, argues that Utah audiences only see the seventh to ninth run of touring Broadway shows because of the dearth of a first-rate facility. It notes a major playhouse was recommended by the Salt Lake Chamber as early as 1962 as part of the so-called Second Century Plan. And the report, which outlines the economic benefit theaters have brought similar-size markets, projects a Main Street theater would boost Salt Lake City’s coffers by $9.4 million a year.
What’s more, an adjacent 20- to 25-story office tower, proposed by Hamilton Partners’ Bruce Bingham, would increase the city’s annual take to $14.8 million, the report says.
But a question remains on whether the theater should be located midblock, at 135 S. Main St., or on the southeast corner of 100 South and Main Street. Bingham, city officials and the consultants would have to decide soon whether to design the project with the tower on the corner and the theater midblock or vice versa.
“The juxtaposition with City Creek [Center] is interesting,” Bingham told the council. “You want to be close, but not too close.”
Councilman Luke Garrott noted that a theater on the corner could maximize its exposure with multiple street fronts. Even so, the consultants stress that a midblock theater would also engage multiple sides, with a planned midblock walkway and an entrance fronting Regent Street immediately east of Main Street.
Helen Langan, senior adviser to Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker, said either building arrangement could work, noting that the city will continue to work with the consultants and architects before making a decision.
“We want to create the most successful project for the city,” Langan said. “We’re going to do it right.”
Arts groups are mostly skeptical of — if not outright opposed to — the project. They argue Utah still gets most Broadway runs — if a little later — and insist a mega-playhouse would squeeze their audiences and bottom lines.
Others say the benefits, particularly as the city sees a downtown renaissance, far outweigh the risks.
“It is important that Salt Lake City remain the cultural core of the region. … No matter how or when the theater comes into existence,” said Salt Lake County Councilman Arlyn Bradshaw. “I am definitely a supporter of it.”
It it wins approval, the theater would take three years to design and build. The office tower, though it may not be built simultaneously, would also take three years.
djensen@sltrib.com Tribune reporter Jeremiah Stettler contributed to this story.
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A cutaway view, lookinf north, of a plan for a Broadway-style theater along Main Street in downtown Salt Lake City.
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A cutaway look at the floors in a Broadway-style theater being studied in downtown Salt Lake City.
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An aerial perspective looking north along Main Street at the location of a Broadway-style performing arts center in downtown Salt Lake City. The lobby would be near the north end of the city block between 100 South and 200 South.
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BG918
May 11, 2011, 2:45 PM
This is a great thread, and I enjoy following the developments. Do y'all work for the SLC Chamber of Commerce? ;)
delts145
May 11, 2011, 10:26 PM
Salt Lake City unveils design for new Public Safety Building
...It will be "net zero," meaning it produces as much energy as it consumes, complete with 30,000 square feet of solar panels, rooftop plants, radiant heating and lights that shut off when natural light is sufficient. A public, tree-filled plaza with free Wi-Fi, also will include solar-powered charging stations for cell phones, iPads and more gadgets..."Quote: The Salt Lake Tribune"
By Pat Reavy
The Deseret News
SALT LAKE CITY — Calling it a "momentous" event and "milestone moment," Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker and other city leaders unveiled the design of the new Public Safety Building Friday.
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Renderings of the future Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City. The building will be net zero, producing as much energy as it uses. (, Salt Lake City)
"This building is really going to establish a new standard for public buildings in the state of Utah," Becker told a small crowd gathered at the Salt Lake City-County Building for the announcement.
The new building, which will house both the Salt Lake City Police and Fire departments as well as the Emergency Operations Center, will be built across from the Salt Lake City Library on 300 East. The design compliments the architecture of the library and includes many windows for natural light.
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Not only will the new Public Safety Building be the "most earthquake-proof building in the state," according to one official, but it will be one of the greenest buildings in Utah, using 30,000 feet of solar panels among other energy-saving measures.
"It's the first net-zero public safety building in the country," Becker said, meaning it will generate as much energy as it uses.
The idea was to not make the new building look like a "fortress," but rather more open and inviting to the public.
However, Salt Lake Police Chief Chris Burbank said it would also be secure and highly functional for law enforcement purposes.
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Earlier Friday, Burbank said he attended the funeral of a retired Salt Lake City Police officer who was the first K-9 officer in the city. Introducing the K-9 program changed how law enforcers policed the city, he said.
"The (new) building is no less significant than that program was some 35 years ago," he said.
In 2009, Salt Lake voters approved a $125 million bond for construction of the new building. Friday, officials said the project was on budget, costing about $77 million for the building itself and just under $120 million to make it functional inside.
A groundbreaking is scheduled for June 1 and completion in May 2013.
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delts145
May 11, 2011, 10:28 PM
Downtown Adj., University of Utah Updates
5/7/11
U Pharmacy School
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USTAR Building
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Honors Housing
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This place will have some pretty awesome mountain and valley views.
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The Hper Mall is finally done (for the most part)
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Business School
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delts145
May 12, 2011, 1:55 PM
Downtown Adj. - Univ. of Utah Updates
As I was walking across campus for a meeting this afternoon I noticed that the base of a new crane has been delivered, which I assume is for the Beverley Taylor Sorenson Arts and Education Complex which will be built right next to the new business building (directly east). Here is a picture of the new building:
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delts145
May 13, 2011, 1:33 PM
Portion of Regent Street, which will soon receive a major overhaul as part of a vibrant center for a major Broadway Style theater.
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S.P., Your pic of above makes me start to think in terms of Regent Street as a major project in and of itself. If we looked at everything going on between South Temple and what will happen between 1st and 2nd South, we have one very large number of major projects underway and about to happen.
Broadway-style theater project picks up steam
By Derek P. Jensen
The Salt Lake Tribune
It wasn’t a standing ovation or a glowing review in The New Yorker, but the reaction of the Salt Lake City Council
to a proposed $100 million Broadway-style theater was the next best thing: None of the purse-string-clutching
members objected.
And for an encore Tuesday, Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon and his deputy said they would be receptive to
managing the proposed playhouse.
“It’s what we do best is managing arts and cultural facilities downtown,” Deputy County Mayor Nichole Dunn said. “It
would be a natural fit.”
A newly released city-commissioned report by Garfield Traub Swisher (GTS) strongly endorses a new theater at 135 S.
Main St. The consultants also urge that the county manage it, saying that such expertise could result in an annual profit
of $2.4 million after the first five years.
The City Council will be asked in June to pass a resolution formally endorsing the theater. Such a vote would also direct
the Redevelopment Agency of Salt Lake City to pursue a funding strategy, which the GTS report envisions as a
combination of sales-tax bonding, federal tax credits and cash from naming rights.
“As long as I’ve been on the council, this section of Main Street has always been a challenge,” said four-term
Councilman Carlton Christensen. “I see this as a real changing element for downtown, and I’m pretty excited.”
If Broadway’s “Book of Mormon” ever tours, Councilman J.T. Martin quipped, “maybe we could get the first
booking.”
Such a road show seems likely, given that the unexpected hit has been nominated for 14 Tony awards.
No council member voiced reservations about the theater’s price tag or whether the project could siphon dollars and
devoted patrons from other arts venues.
For his part, Corroon said he has “some concerns” about how a Broadway-class theater might affect downtown’s
Capitol Theatre. County estimates suggest the Capitol could lose as much as $600,000 a year if the new theater
comes to town.
“Is a new facility something that is nice to have? Yes,” Corroon said. “It would be great for Salt Lake to have a
large, Broadway-style theater that allows shows to come here that otherwise wouldn’t come, or would wait for 10
years to come. The question is, is now the right time?”
As for the county running the theater, Corroon said, “It makes absolute sense.”
The yearlong study, which cost $741,000, argues that Utah audiences only see the seventh to ninth run of touring
Broadway shows because of the dearth of a first-rate facility. It notes a major playhouse was recommended by the
Salt Lake Chamber as early as 1962 as part of the so-called Second Century Plan. And the report, which outlines
the economic benefit theaters have brought similar-size markets, projects a Main Street theater would boost Salt
Lake City’s coffers by $9.4 million a year.
What’s more, an adjacent 20- to 25-story office tower, proposed by Hamilton Partners’ Bruce Bingham, would increase
the city’s annual take to $14.8 million, the report says.
But a question remains on whether the theater should be located midblock, at 135 S. Main St., or on the southeast
corner of 100 South and Main Street. Bingham, city officials and the consultants would have to decide soon whether
to design the project with the tower on the corner and the theater midblock or vice versa.
“The juxtaposition with City Creek [Center] is interesting,” Bingham told the council. “You want to be close, but not
too close.”
Councilman Luke Garrott noted that a theater on the corner could maximize its exposure with multiple street fronts.
Even so, the consultants stress that a midblock theater would also engage multiple sides, with a planned midblock
walkway and an entrance fronting Regent Street immediately east of Main Street.
Helen Langan, senior adviser to Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker, said either building arrangement could work, noting
that the city will continue to work with the consultants and architects before making a decision.
“We want to create the most successful project for the city,” Langan said. “We’re going to do it right.”
Arts groups are mostly skeptical of — if not outright opposed to — the project. They argue Utah still gets most
Broadway runs — if a little later — and insist a mega-playhouse would squeeze their audiences and bottom lines.
Others say the benefits, particularly as the city sees a downtown renaissance, far outweigh the risks.
“It is important that Salt Lake City remain the cultural core of the region. … No matter how or when the theater comes
into existence,” said Salt Lake County Councilman Arlyn Bradshaw. “I am definitely a supporter of it.”
It it wins approval, the theater would take three years to design and build. The office tower, though it may not be
built simultaneously, would also take three years.
djensen@sltrib.com Tribune reporter Jeremiah Stettler contributed to this story.
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A cutaway view, lookinf north, of a plan for a Broadway-style theater along Main Street in downtown Salt Lake City.
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A cutaway look at the floors in a Broadway-style theater being studied in downtown Salt Lake City.
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An aerial perspective looking north along Main Street at the location of a Broadway-style
performing arts center in downtown Salt Lake City. The lobby would be near the north end of the city block
between 100 South and 200 South.
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delts145
May 13, 2011, 1:53 PM
Update, Natural History Museum
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delts145
May 14, 2011, 12:50 PM
Downtown, Questar Update
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delts145
May 15, 2011, 12:55 PM
I was downtown today and it was
a wonderful day. People were out and about. The weather was
just perfect. While waiting for TRAX I noticed how much better City
Creek Center looks at the Main Street level because of the people and
the trees.
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delts145
May 16, 2011, 12:07 AM
Central Metro Updates
Mountview Elementary site to house new park
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Cottonwood Heights, with the support of the Canyons School District, is planning to create a new park on the
Mountview Elementary school site.
City leaders started negotiating to take over the property at 1651 E. Fort Union Blvd. shortly after the school district
decided in March to demolish the school, which had sat idle for years...
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Steve Griffin | The Salt Lake Tribune) Demolition continues on Mountview Elementary School
in Cottonwood Heights.
Canyons breaks ground for new high school
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Soon Draper will no longer be the largest city in Utah without a public secondary school.
Canyons School District broke ground last week on the site of a yet-to-be-named high school at
12887 S. 801 East, in a ceremony attended by about 200 people...
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Canyons District broke ground on its new high school, at 12887 S. 801East, last week.
The 311,000-square-foot building is expected to be done in time for the 2013-2014 school year. Photos courtesy
of Stephen Speckman.
Near 40, Utah’s Fashion Place mall refuses to show age
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The first Cheesecake Factory restaurant in Utah opened at Fashion Place mall, along with the first Sephora
cosmetics store. By the end of the year, specialty retailer Crate and Barrel, apparel chain H&M and a BRIO Tuscan
Grille restaurant will follow suit with their first locations...
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Paul Fraughton | The Salt Lake Tribune) New construction at Murray's Fashion Place Mall. On the
left is apparel retailer H&M and on the right is Crate and Barrel on Wednesday, May 4, 2011.
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Paul Fraughton
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(Paul Fraughton | The Salt Lake Tribune) New construction at Murray's Fashion Place Mall.
A construction worker works on the entryway of a BRIO restaurant on Wednesday, May 4, 2011.
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(Paul Fraughton | The Salt Lake Tribune) New construction at Murray's Fashion Place Mall. Store
fronts on the south end of the mall are not yet leased.
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(Paul Fraughton | The Salt Lake Tribune) New construction at Murray's Fashion Place Mall. Workers
help with the construction on the steel skeleton of the new Crate & Barrel on Wednesday, May 4, 2011.
:tup:West Jordan to complete critical segment of Jordan River trail
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...Chris McCandless, vice chairman of the newly formed Jordan River Commission and a member of the Sandy
City Council, said its completion would be “monumental.”
“I’m going to do a back flip,” McCandless mused. “We are coming down the final stretch of the lake-to-lake vision.”...
Park City - Bonanza Tunnel Opens
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...It now serves as the crucial link for pedestrians and bicyclists between Prospector and Old Town. Someone can
now walk or bicycle from the vicinity of Main Street to the Park City School District campus without having to cross a
major street at the surface level. The tunnel also provides easy access to the popular Rail Trail from points south and
west...
South Jordan Health Center (Daybreak)
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delts145
May 16, 2011, 1:01 PM
Brookings - Utah transit among best to connect people and jobs
By Lee Davidson
The Salt Lake Tribune
His past two jobs allow Andrew Gruber to see easily why a new study says most transit agencies nationally do not connect people and jobs well — and why Utah is heralded as a bright-spot exception.
Gruber, executive director of the transportation-planning Wasatch Front Regional Council, said, “I came here from Chicago where I worked in the transit system. It’s 100 years old and is a traditional hub-and-spoke system. It was designed to bring people from the suburbs into the central city where the jobs were.”
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Al Hartmann | Tribune file photo In the top 100 metro areas nationally, the Brookings study figured that public transit buses and trains allow residents to reach only 30 percent of their area’s jobs within a 90-minute ride. In the Salt Lake metro area, transit allows reaching 59 percent of jobs — or two times better than average.
But most jobs aren’t downtown anymore. They moved to the suburbs, and the system wasn’t designed to move people between suburbs — a problem faced in many metro areas nationwide.
“In contrast, along the Wasatch Front our transit system is relatively new,” he said. And because the area is compactly boxed in by mountains, it was clear where growth would come and planners “were able to design a new transit network” that transports people to emerging suburban job centers.
That helps Utah areas rank unusually high in a study released Thursday by the Brookings Institution, a Washington-based nonprofit policy group, about how well transit agencies in the nation’s top 100 metro areas connect people and jobs.
The Salt Lake metro area ranked No. 3, Provo-Orem ranked No. 9 and Ogden-Clearfield ranked No. 11.
“Utah is a strong example of how good planning and strong investment can really help metro areas effectively connect people to jobs,” Elizabeth Kneebone, a coauthor of the Brookings study, told The Salt Lake Tribune.
In the top 100 metro areas nationally, the study figured that public transit buses and trains allow residents to reach only 30 percent of their area’s jobs within a 90-minute ride.
In the Salt Lake metro area, transit allows reaching 59 percent of jobs — or two times better than average. In Provo-Orem, it reaches 48 percent. In Ogden-Clearfield, it reaches 42 percent.
Kneebone said areas that did well in the study share three key characteristics: Their transit networks are extensive and reach far into communities; most jobs are in relatively concentratedareas; and officials use integrated planning for where to allow housing, job areas and transportation systems.
“Utah has done each of these things right,” Kneebone said. “You have efforts like Envision Utah. Its purpose is to think across these different areas of planning, and think of more comprehensive development patterns.”
Gruber said connecting people to jobs via transit is a core part of his agency’s regional planning — and is needed for the Wasatch Front to handle adding an expected 1.4 million additional people in the next 30 years without traffic gridlock.
He adds, “The region has had the vision to make significant investment in transit over the past 10 years. We have the highest per capita transit investment of any region in the area in the last 10 years,” in building TRAX lines, FrontRunner commuter rail and bus rapid transit lines that have their own highway lanes.
Tyler Garcia, a planner for the Utah Transit Authority, said UTA came up with a unique sort of hybrid system to allow a more extensive reach into communities.
It is partially a hub-and-spoke system — with TRAX lines being the elongated hub into which local buses feed. It also has a grid system for buses where people can travel east-west, and north-south. Additionally, UTA has some express and fast buses for quick, direct service between big job and population centers.
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(Al Hartmann | The Salt Lake Tribune) Because many jobs aren’t downtown anymore, the best transit systems move people to emerging suburban job centers, the Brrookings study said
He said UTA looked at planned growth, surveys of what people said they wanted, demographic and other data to redesign the system away from a traditional hub and spoke — such as a complete revamping of the Salt Lake County system in 2007, which he said has increased ridership.
Lorin Simpson, UTA general manager for Salt Lake County, said that trying to connect people and jobs “is definitely a high priority for us and a significant ridership generator.”
Gruber also said companies considering relocating or expanding to Utah increasingly look at transit options available to their workers.
“Part of the reason for that is employers know often transit can provide a more predictable trip time from home to work, particularly on rail system, than the vagueries of traveling by car,” he said.
Kneebone said she would like to see Utah “continue to be leader on these kind of issues. It really does show what good planning and good investment can do for metro areas.”
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delts145
May 16, 2011, 1:40 PM
Central Metro Updates Continued...
RSL Breaks Ground On Practice Field
RSL broke ground today on a practice field in Sandy at 10000 South and State St.
http://www.realsaltlake.com/news/2011/05/rsl-breaks-ground-america-first-field
http://www.realsaltlake.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/primary_image-620x350/image_nodes/2011/05/America-First-Field_article%20(620x350).jpg
:SLCdude and S.P.Hansen take us along as they catch up with some
of the booming construction going on along Salt Lake City's commuter
rail corridor
http://navsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/utah_train_vision.jpg
FrontRunner Adventure with S.P.Hansen & SLCdude
Murray Station
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5553531271_258f4288bc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5553531271/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5554117628_e2d06ecd27_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554117628/)
Bridge at approx. 9800 South
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5226/5553532687_ae96952344_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5553532687/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5181/5554119080_a88f796f0f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554119080/)
Same location, looking South...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5060/5553534067_053c7fc8e1_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5553534067/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5024/5553535203_15e6b2a8d8_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5553535203/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5185/5554120404_96d2c25d9f_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554120404/)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5014/5554121300_a2ffef05d5_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554121300/)
Border Area, Central/Southern Metro
Bridge in Lehi
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5189/5553539083_b90cc17588_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5553539083/)
More Lehi...
Looking South...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5308/5554128488_55e63c1604_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554128488/)
Looking North...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5140/5554129516_26c86957bc_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554129516/)
Jordan Narrows
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5554130594_a9bba6c3e7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5554130594/)
Pics By SLCdude
I really don't have anything to add to the wonderful variety provided by SLCdude :tup:!
Here was an angle looking at the bridge at approx. 9800 South that I liked:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5182/5554496756_34a21ff177_b.jpg
Here is a Union Pacific train traveling over the already completed bridge in Lehi!:
Under these bridges will be a Highway connecting I-15 to Redwood Road through Lehi.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5554502846_aa3b9ca92b_b.jpg
Pics By S.P.Hansen
April North Temple Viaduct Update
The North Temple viaduct, a major connector between the core
of Utah's capital city and points west.
http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site297/2010/0414/20100414__viaduct_041510~P1.jpg
This artist's rendering shows a rebuilt North
Temple viaduct looking south toward The Gateway with FrontRunner
going under the overpass and the airport TRAX line extending across
the viaduct, with total cost of the remake set at $71 million. Source:
Utah Transit Authority
Nothing has changed that much on the
west side of the viaduct since the last update; the east side has now
been brought to the same level of development as the west side.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5262/5621092710_43faf074ca_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5225/5621094344_a78283d6e6_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5620520207_7b7dbcb07b_b.jpg
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5028/5621100874_0202f139c4_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5148/5621106624_89c388a1d5_b.jpg
Pics By S.P.Hansen
From UtahUrbanForum (http://www.utahurbanforum.com)
West Valley TRAX line now finished
Published: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:06 p.m. MDT
By Richard Burwash, For the Deseret News
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http://www.rideuta.com/uploads/westvalleyconstructionmap.jpg
rideuta.com
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705371617/West-Valley-TRAX-line-now-finished.html?s_cid=rss-30
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5121/5304611267_e1b2634819_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5304611267/)
Trax line in West Valley's City Center
This will officially open in the summer with the Mid-Jordan Trax
line. Respectively, they will be Utah's 4th and 5th light-rail lines.
The 6th line to the SLC airport should open next year.
Salt Lake City Inter-model Hub
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5026/5689553310_e87c53e386_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5307/5688884585_20836e667e_b.jpg
May North Temple Viaduct Update
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2792/5709601820_3acf40a4b5_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/5709603354_871f67fd36_b.jpg
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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2766/5709606814_c1ee1c82e2_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/5709504860_0742fcdb7a_b.jpg
Pics By S.P.Hansen
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delts145
May 17, 2011, 11:14 AM
Central Metro Updates Continued...
Airport TRAX Line Update
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/5709603354_871f67fd36_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/5714090637_7cf78c88f3_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2275/5714649108_c758483f50_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2594/5714662364_d0204d47fd_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2784/5714657012_a8a135b89d_b.jpg
Switching over to my 80mm Medium Format jerry-rigged tilt-shift lens makes things appear much closer.
Compare these two pictures below with the two above.
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3549/5714664616_96c577343f_b.jpg
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3341/5714674294_3c8fb39ec3_b.jpg
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Pics By S.P.Hansen
Hopefully SLCdude got some pictures of the line at the actual airport because I certainly did not. Sufficeth to say it is coming along nicely.
Ahh! S.P. beat me to it.
My TRAX update:
North Temple
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3383/5712155258_abcbbb4894_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5712155258/)
Viaduct
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2383/5712156090_0100ca4f21_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5712156090/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/5712156518_1581afd366_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5712156518/)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/5712157222_f09039c3a0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5712157222/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3227/5712157956_f901d5e6d6_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5712157956/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3310/5711597983_b9922cb594_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5711597983/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/5712159282_3a2fa3e458_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5712159282/)
Daybreak
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3008/5711600471_89d5fc0b90_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5711600471/)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3365/5711601759_ffef7c324b_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/55088647@N02/5711601759/)
Pics By SLCdude
FrontRunner Update From RideUTA's flickr Account
Jordan Narrows FrontRunner and UP Bridges
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/5711440794_57132d90eb_b.jpg
Completed Track Near 11400 South
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/5711436682_5aa5a77c1c_b.jpg
Flyover Bridge at 9800 South Looking South
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/5711435438_e2d68130f0_b.jpg
Deck Sealant Installed on the Winchester Street Bridge
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2387/5711431344_7f4daeb386_b.jpg
UTA and UPRR Crews Installing New Crossing Panels at the 5900 South Crossing
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/5710870345_68e8554b36_b.jpg
5300 South Bridge: In this picture you can see the UP lines and the existing light rail lines
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/5711428466_fbd0130705_b.jpg
4500 S. Bridge
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2602/5710864443_cea52b2b7a_b.jpg
Central Ave. Bridge
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/5710862893_004678b18e_b.jpg
3500 South Underpass
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/5710861219_f3a56dc531_b.jpg
Millcreek Bridge Construction: Union Pacific's Roper Yards is visible in the picture
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2214/5711418524_0757186a7a_b.jpg
Pics By S.P.Hansen
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delts145
May 18, 2011, 2:55 PM
Southern Metro Updates...
http://www.willieholdman.com/images/large/100370106410.jpg
Nuskin Unveils $80 Million Investment In Downtown
:tup: Mayor John Curtis,
The City Council gave a green light (with a unanimous vote)
to Nu Skin's downtown addition.
A little over a year ago, Nu Skin approached the City regarding the
feasibility of the expanding the Nu Skin campus in downtown Provo.
Nu Skin will be expanding its existing Tower and then go west across
100 West where it will construct a new modern facility.
The proposed $80,000,000 expansion project will add 147,000 square feet
for a total of nearly 300,000 square feet and will house about 900
employees.
The word modern doesn't really do justice to the planned expansion.
If I could come up with a word that combined cool, fabulous and
visionary I would be better able to explain the new project. Better
yet, I'll let the pictures tell the story.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo8kN7C6tI/AAAAAAAACNw/JIlCAWzWWlo/s640/street+level.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo8kN7C6tI/AAAAAAAACNw/JIlCAWzWWlo/s1600/street+level.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo9paj8CAI/AAAAAAAACN0/dzf8oXmYkfg/s640/inside.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo9paj8CAI/AAAAAAAACN0/dzf8oXmYkfg/s1600/inside.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo9riTErcI/AAAAAAAACN4/wB4K8CFjV5Y/s640/center+street.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo9riTErcI/AAAAAAAACN4/wB4K8CFjV5Y/s1600/center+street.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo9t-d4wKI/AAAAAAAACN8/Iq2A0sqOWxY/s640/city+view.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo9t-d4wKI/AAAAAAAACN8/Iq2A0sqOWxY/s1600/city+view.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo722vKAUI/AAAAAAAACNs/VNBWJDXrSFI/s640/south+side.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hKa9O_sIyZM/TNo722vKAUI/AAAAAAAACNs/VNBWJDXrSFI/s1600/south+side.jpg
Nu Skin begins demolition work in Provo expansion
The Salt Lake Tribune
Nu Skin International marked the beginning Tuesday of the demolition
of properties next to its downtown Provo high-rise office to make way
for construction of the Nu Skin Innovation Center. The center will house
a research and development laboratory, a network operations
center, distributor recognition areas, retail space and a cafe. The
network marketer of skin care and other personal products is investing
$80 million in downtown Provo in an expansion that will include more than
an acre of green space.
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(Photo by Chris Detrick | The Salt Lake Tribune) Spectators watch as properties neighboring the Nu Skin High Rise
are demolished Wednesday May 4, 2011. The Nu Skin Innovation
Center will house world-class research and development laboratory,
network operations center, distributor recognition areas, retail space
and a café. Nu Skin is investing $80 million in downtown Provo with
this expansion project that will include more than one acre of green
space for employees, residents and visitors to enjoy.
Demolition makes way for Nu Skin center
http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/central/provo/article_7ceb157a-d5de-5741-a79a-51cd7d514b57.html
Hundreds of Nu Skin employees and area residents looked
on Wednesday as Nu Skin founders Blake Roney, Sandie Tillotson
and Steve Lund took their turn at helping demolish the old Kress
building.
The event marks the end of an era on Center Street, according to
Mayor John Curtis, and signals the beginning of a new era in Provo
history.
"This is a big deal for us," Curtis said at the demolition. "I have mixed
feelings today, but any good city builds new landmarks. All of us
appreciated the landmark that was here. But this is an important
part of revitalizing downtown. It facilitates the things people have
been asking for in downtown."...
Utah Valley Convention Center
http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/3198637.jpg
Lt. Governor Greg Bell speaks at the
groundbreaking ceremony for the Utah Valley Convention Center in
downtown Provo Tuesday. (Stuart Johnson, Deseret News)
http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/3198639.jpg
An artist's rendering shows what the Utah
Valley Convention Center will look like when completed in March 2012.
Utah Valley Convention and Visitors Bureau
http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/3198636.jpg
Rendering of the Utah Valley Convention Center
in downtown Provo that is anticipated to be completed by March 2012.
(Utah Valley Convention and Visitors Bureau)
http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/3198640.jpg
(Utah Valley Convention and Visitors Bureau)
http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/3198639.jpg
(Utah Valley Convention and Visitors Bureau)
http://www.deseretnews.com/photos/midres/web-122350.jpg
Here's some pictures of the Utah County Convention Center
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2392/5711612582_edb10e65cf.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711612582/)
IMG_0249 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711612582/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3410/5711051635_28ee3e286b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711051635/)
IMG_0248 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711051635/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2672/5711050405_564752ddf6.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711050405/)
IMG_0247 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711050405/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/5711609344_9323ea390b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711609344/)
IMG_0246 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711609344/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/5711048433_f0c8bf3605.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711048433/)
IMG_0245 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711048433/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/5711047625_403a26decc.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711047625/)
IMG_0244 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711047625/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/5711606440_116bfc4b54.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711606440/)
IMG_0243 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711606440/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/5711605662_63daf13d8c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711605662/)
IMG_0242 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711605662/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2490/5711604804_46208e9aeb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711604804/)
IMG_0241 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711604804/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/5711035991_83fbf16825.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711035991/)
IMG_0250 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711035991/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
And here's some recent demolition pictures as of today for the Nu Skin expansion.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/5711043899_bb3a8e9798.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711043899/)
IMG_0240 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711043899/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3532/5711042607_163926bb39.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711042607/)
IMG_0239 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711042607/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2192/5711041069_857e1e4038.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711041069/)
IMG_0238 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711041069/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/5711600230_b6ff823877.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711600230/)
IMG_0237 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711600230/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2775/5711039385_e10e91691d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711039385/)
IMG_0253 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711039385/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/5711038439_8339642e2e.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711038439/)
IMG_0252 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711038439/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3258/5711597516_1cd55b58e8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711597516/)
IMG_0251 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/31986249@N08/5711597516/) by byuistud163285 (http://www.flickr.com/people/31986249@N08/), on Flickr
Pics By Javiniscool
Frontier Airlines will begin daily Denver
flights from Provo[
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700115070/Frontier-Airlines-will-begin-daily-Denver-flights-from-Provo.html
PROVO — Scheduled commercial flights will soon be arriving in
Utah County.
Provo Mayor John Curtis told the City Council Tuesday that Frontier
Airlines will start a daily flight in and out of Provo beginning in June.
The flight from Provo to the airline's Denver hub will leave at 8:30 a.m.
each day with a return flight landing at 9:15 p.m. daily. The flight will
be on an Embraer 190 jet aircraft that can seat 99.
"This is a major milestone for Provo and all of Utah County,"
Curtis said. "Many people have worked very hard, not just in the
last few months, but also in the last several years, to make this
happen."
Provo Airport manager Steve Gleason told the council if the flight
fills up, more flights will follow...
http://static.deseretnews.com/images/article/midres/390315/390315.jpg
A Frontier Airlines plane arrives in Salt Lake City in
2008. The airline will start a daily flight between Provo Municipal Airport
and the airline's Denver hub beginning in June. (Danny Chan La, Deseret
News archives)
Provo passenger terminal work begins
http://www.heraldextra.com/business/local/article_005adc35-5197-50d4-bb4b-813b12453c6e.html
..."We have a million things just about ready to start,"
Gleason said. "This will be a monumental achievement to get this
done. Everyone is going 100 percent."
Both Gleason and Curtis said they are excited for the potential this can
bring to Provo and Utah County. The current push will be well worth it.
"The city and others have worked for so long to get scheduled service at
the airport, it's exciting to see it really happening," Curtis said. "After
making slow, steady progress for years, we're now sprinting to the
finish line. When you look at its potential for economic development,
and how convenient it will be for local travelers, it's going to be well
worth all the effort."
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delts145
May 18, 2011, 4:02 PM
Southern Metro Updates Continued...
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Provo council approves $39M bond for rec center
Deseret News
PROVO (AP) — A new recreation center is finally coming to Provo.
Municipal Council members on Tuesday approved a $39 million bond issue
to pay for the project backed by two mayors and endorsed by city
residents in a November vote.
Opponents of the bond had called a recession a bad time to be issuing
bonds.
But Provo assistant finance chief Dan Follett says the current market
offered the best interest rates in the last 20 years.
Student Housing Projects
They're starting to lay brick on the new
student housing building closest to the Culinary Support Center
(Creamery Outlet).
It looks like a light cream colored stone/brick on the first level, and
then a darker red/brown brick from there up. They've only started on
the east end of the building, so we can't yet tell what accents and
such they will do all the way around.
A truck delivering glass to the job site was also parked and waiting
for instructions of where to deliver it.
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Joaquin Village
Location - 600 N 600 E, Provo, Utah
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The property is currently under construction and will result in a 236-unit, 940-bed student housing property 2 blocks south of BYU's campus. Peak Capital broke ground on construction in August 2010 and the project will be completed and ready for occupancy for the Fall 2012 semester. The site is exceptionally unique. It was formerly an elementary school which was built on a site larger than a city block. In light of the dense surrounding neighborhood, it would be impossible replicate this size of a property for a comparably sized student community. The amenities and finishes will be exceptional and will exceed anything else in the market. The BYU student housing market has surprisingly never had a Class A+ property like you find at other large universities. This project will fill that niche. Our construction loan is with Zions Bank and we have retained R&O Construction as our general contractor.
Joaquin Village coming along, slowly but surely. This is actually a humongous project. South/East side
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North/West side
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FrontRunner Update From RideUTA's flickr Account
[B]American Fork FrontRunner Progress
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Mountain View Corridor FrontRunner and UP Bridges in Lehi
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delts145
May 19, 2011, 2:57 PM
Southern Metro Projects Continued..
New Adobe Campus & Expansion
SALT LAKE CITY -- Adobe Systems Incorporated plans to build a new $100 million technology campus in Utah, which could create up to 1,000 new high-tech jobs in the state over the next 20 years.
The state is giving Adobe tens of millions of dollars in tax rebates in the deal, for creating 1,000 jobs over two decades.
"I have personally assured company leaders that Utah's business climate will allow operations to thrive, and that we, as a State, can provide them with a workforce that is well-educated, tech-savvy and ready to go to work for Adobe," Herbert said.
This is the latest significant move San Jose-based Adobe has made here in Utah. In September of last year, Adobe bought Omniture, the Orem-based technology company, for $1.8 billion.
The new Adobe campus to be built in Utah County will accommodate future growth for the company and its Omniture Business Unit operations, which employs approximately 620 people in Utah and 1,100 worldwide.
The multi-phase project includes construction of a new campus to be completed in 2012 and the possibility of additional facilities expansion over 20 years. If growth projections are met, approximately 1,000 new employment opportunities with Adobe could be created in Utah over that same period, generating approximately $1.6 billion in new state wages.
I think this design on the bench is going to be very pleasing to the eyes.
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Here are the new Adobe Campus renderings...
Following Pics Courtesy of UtahUrbanForum.com
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photoLith
May 19, 2011, 4:15 PM
I remember some time ago, a beautiful Mormon church burnt down in Provo or somewhere and there were plans on restoring it. Does anyone know anything about that?
delts145
May 20, 2011, 12:30 PM
^^^
The surrounding walls have been stabilized and an investigation into the cause has been concluded. The building is now awaiting the process of it's restoration. For further info. just go to the Mountainwest Forum, Provo thread.
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delts145
May 20, 2011, 12:48 PM
Central Metro ~
West Valley announces plans, name for city center project
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An artist's rendering shows West Valley City's vision for Fairbourne Station, a planned 40-acre development combining retail, office, residential and upscale hotel space. (GSBS Architects)
By Jared Page
Deseret News
WEST VALLEY CITY — Fairbourne Station is returning to West Valley City.
City officials Thursday broke ground and unveiled the name for the $500 million, transit-oriented development project designed to become the future focal point of West Valley City.
"This will be a true mixed-use center and the premier transit-oriented development in the West," Mayor Mike Winder said.
The 40-acre development's name, Winder explained, pays homage to Joseph Fairbourne, an early settler in the area who in 1883 built a blacksmith shop and small store at 3535 S. 3200 West.
Fellow settlers in outlying areas would stop at Fairbourne's shop to weigh their produce on their way to market their goods in Salt Lake City or Murray, the mayor said.
The Fairbourne weigh station became "a gathering place in the regional transportation network, a crossroads for people of diverse nationalities who convened there to market, worship together and build the community that we would become today," Winder said.
And city leaders envision the new Fairbourne Station doing the same.
"The beauty and vibrancy of Fairbourne Station will be a game changer for how people view West Valley City in the future," Winder said.
The development also will bring to West Valley City its first full-service, four-star hotel. Construction of a seven-story Hilton Embassy Suites — featuring 162 suites — is scheduled to begin in July, with completion expected in late 2012.
The $27 million hotel will be owned by the city and leased to Embassy Suites. Lease payments will cover the debt service, said Nicole Cottle, the city's community and economic development director.
The project also calls for roughly 1,000 residential units, all of which will be high-end urban housing, along with 200,000 square feet of retail and 200,000 square feet of office space.
A 4-acre linear park — a "grand promenade" — and plaza with water features "will act as our focal point and a gathering place for our increasingly diverse community," Cottle said.
The terminus of the West Valley City TRAX line and the Utah Transit Authority's first bus-rapid transit route will create an intermodal center at Fairbourne Station. City Hall, a court building, a public safety building and a county library will be the civic anchors of the development, she said.
In all, the project is projected to create 2,000 new jobs, several millions of dollars in sales- and property-tax revenues, and increased ridership on transit.
"West Valley City is indeed undergoing a renaissance," Cottle said, "and Fairbourne Station is the flagship of all our economic development projects."
Gov. Gary Herbert, one of the local dignitaries who attended Thursday's groundbreaking, said he believes Fairbourne Station will have "a significant impact on economic growth in this part of our great state."
"The vibrancy of our state, in large part, is because of the vibrancy of our cities," Herbert said. "West Valley is certainly an example of vibrancy and growth."
Utah Reps. Jim Matheson and Jason Chaffetz also were in attendance.
The project is being developed by the Redevelopment Agency of West Valley City, with a handful of private partners — including Hines, an international office development and leasing firm; and ICO, a subsidiary of Ivory Homes.
It's estimated that the project will include $500 million in private investment when it's complete, Cottle said.
delts145
May 21, 2011, 12:28 PM
moved..................
delts145
May 22, 2011, 2:07 PM
Downtown Updates
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delts145
May 22, 2011, 2:25 PM
Saving old buildings creates more jobs than new construction, saves energy, says PlaceEconomics' Don Rypkema
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City Creek Center developers will use the former Deseret/First Security Bank building, shown here in August 2008, as office space as part of the downtown project. (Scott G. Winterton, Dnews)
...For example, a study in Delaware showed that rehabilitation of old buildings created 14.6 jobs per $1 million output, as compared to 11.2 job created by new construction and 9.2 jobs created in manufacturing. A study in Georgia, looking at its primary industries, has similar findings. A $1 million investment created 3.5 jobs in auto manufacture, four jobs in computer manufacture, 8.7 jobs in air transportation, 10.4 jobs in poultry processing and 18.1 jobs in rehabilitating old buildings...
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Don Rypkema is the principal of PlaceEconomics, a Washington D.C.-based real estate and economic development-consulting firm. He is the keynote speaker for the 2011 Utah Heritage Foundation Preservation Conference. (Dwight C. Andrews, The Daily News)
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delts145
May 23, 2011, 11:46 AM
Downtown Updates...
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Regent Street, There is a wonderful conbination of Western American and European sensibilities at
play here. The first thought I had when taking in the overview of CCC, was a familiarity with the layouts of my own
inner Roman neighborhoods that I am so familiar with. At the same time, the water features evoke the rugged
mountain streams of the surrounding Rockies. I love it... I think I'll be able to sit here and people watch for hours.
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delts145
May 24, 2011, 11:23 AM
Downtown Updates
Regent Street
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By any standard Salt Lake's CBD blocks are gigantic. The ongoing trend for Downtown Salt lake City
is to not only engage the pedestrian at the perimeter of the block, but to also attractively dissect the inner portions in a
way that would make an urban lover or European like me very comfortable. Block by block, Salt Lake's planners are turning
it's inner blocks from a head scratching disadvantage into a huge plus. Next on my wish list for Downtown Salt Lake
City, would be to turn some of those gigantic intersections into spectacular Parisian/Roman style Piazzas.
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South Temple
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Harmon's Full Service Grocer
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delts145
May 25, 2011, 3:09 PM
City & Metro, A little of this and that...
SLC’s rooftop bar offers a view and a vibe
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...Plenty of commuters also have noticed the patio at 31 E. 400 South, craning from their cars or TRAX trains to spy the open-air party.
“Drove by and couldn’t figure out the crowd on the roof,” Planning Commissioner Babs De Lay posted on the pub’s Facebook page. “Congrats! Brilliant and crowded! Good for our Pig!”
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(Trent Nelson | The Salt Lake Tribune) The Green Pig Pub has opened a rooftop bar in Salt Lake City. The few nights — and afternoons — the deck has been open, it has reached its maximum capacity of 49.
Study: Utah among best in adapting to world trade demands
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...The state’s emphasis on international business already has been beneficial for the state and its residents.
The U.S. International Trade Administration said in early March that Utah was the only state in which the value of its exports doubled in the past five years. The increase resulted in export-related jobs expanding to 93,000 last year from about 45,000 in 2006...
States best at adapting to changing export markets
1 » Nevada
2 » West Virginia
3 » Delaware
4 » Utah
5 » Indiana
Metcom reinvents itself from the ground up
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(Paul Fraughton | The Salt Lake Tribune) Metcom Studios' new facility at 352 S. 500 East in Salt Lake City.
Marmalade, West Capitol neighborhoods to get new library
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...Although it could be two to three years away, the Marmalade Library is anticipated to be a neighborhood gathering spot and could also be the anchor of a small commercial district on 300 West between 500 North and 600...
Gold, silver coins to be legal currency in Utah
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By JOSH LOFTIN, Associated Press - Sunday, May 22, 2011
Read More: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/22/national/a122317D01.DTL
Salt Lake City (AP) --
Utah legislators want to see the dollar regain its former glory, back to the days when one could literally bank on it being "as good as gold."
To make that point, they've turned it around, and made gold as good as cash. Utah became the first state in the country this month to legalize gold and silver coins as currency. The law also will exempt the sale of the coins from state capital gains taxes....
delts145
May 26, 2011, 12:58 PM
Central Metro...
Businesses brace for State Street construction
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51748746-78/street-business-construction-state.html.csp
It could be a long summer for some businesses on State Street in Midvale.
The Utah Department of Transportation plans to widen the main thoroughfare by one lane in each direction from 6400 South to 8000 South starting after the Fourth of July holiday...
Cinemark brings 'NextGen' movie experience to Draper, soon to Farmington
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705373344/Cinemark-brings-NextGen-movie-experience-to-Draper-soon-to-Farmington.html
DRAPER — Are you a moviegoer who's not going to the movies much anymore? That is, do you rent a movie and then watch it on your home theater system?...
...Thursday night in Draper, Cinemark's new 12-screen "NextGen" entertainment complex opens to the public. The stadium-seating styled auditoriums feature wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling screens, with 7.1 capable digital surround sound by JBL...
...This multimillion dollar complex in Draper is only the second "NextGen" theater that Cinemark has built. The third one is on the way: a 14-screen complex in Farmington that will open in July...
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Cinemark CEO and Utah native Alan Stock looks over progress as work is finishing on the new Cinemark theater in Draper Wednesday, May 25, 2011. Cinemark is opening a new, state-of-the-art theater complex with extreme digital, self serve concessions and reserved seating. (Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News)
Demolition crews will have a go at Bonanza Park buildings
http://www.parkrecord.com/ci_18130151
Mark J. Fischer, the key landowner in the Bonanza Park district, holds ambitious plans to remake the district, essentially from the ground up...
Typical of structures to get the wrecking ball
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...Fischer's blueprints represent what would be the largest-scale redevelopment inside Park City since the beginning of the skiing era in the 1960s...
...He envisions the parking lot at The Yard, an expansive piece of ground off Kearns Boulevard, will be developed first. A project at that site will not require buildings to be torn down. Fischer said the building where the Blind Dog is located could be the first to be razed.
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delts145
May 27, 2011, 4:33 AM
Another Classic Jewel's Construction Announced For Downtown SLC.
Gateway Six
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Boyer
New details emerging as posted on the link below, show tremendous attention to masonary detailing, giving this
new construction the feel of a classic gem restored.
Link:
I found some bid documents on Gateway 6. It's in PDF format - scroll down to the bottom
and there are some diagrams on elevations etc.
http://www.ekbailey.net/plans/Gateway6/Addendum2.pdf
Thanks so much H4vok for that post. I am freakin overjoyed at Boyer's decision to go ahead
with this design as originally planned. I had understood that they had last decided to just give us another version of
the Fidelity offices next door. What a fantastic siteline this will create, looking to the north from Olympic Plaza. For me,
the fact that this is a different style and very much in line with the Union Pacific & Rio Grande elements is a huge plus.
H4's post shows a building that is even more beautiful in it's detailing than the original rendering I posted above. For me,
this is very exciting and shows that Boyer is upping the bar, possibly now that CCC and Hamilton is on the scene. I
have always believed that a healthy competition between Gateway and CCC and Trolley will ultimately be very good
for Downtown Salt Lake.
This was some excellent news this morning, and another indicator of Downtown
SLC's continuing development as one of America's most beautiful CBDs.
Barrick Gold leasing half of new Gateway building
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51854488-79/barrick-gold-gateway-building.html.csp
The Boyer Co. already has a tenant for the five-story office tower it expects to start building next month on the
north end of downtown Salt Lake City’s ever-evolving Gateway project.
Barrick Gold of North America has signed a long-term lease for 2½ floors, 50,000 square feet in all, at what will be known
as Gateway Six, said Jake Boyer, president and CEO of The Boyer Co., developer of the $375 million Gateway project.
The company is planning to move into that space in May 2012
The five-story office structure will be built to receive silver LEED certification. LEED stands for Leadership in Energy
and Environmental Design. The property has been a parking lot north of the outdoor mall and west of a Hyatt Place
hotel...
In a news release, Barrick chief financial officer Blake Measom said Gateway was chosen for its location
and amenities. “Easy access to the airport, the TRAX line and the freeway were important factors in our decision,
” he said. ”Our employees will enjoy the convenience.”
One real estate agent who helped Barrick find a suitable and large enough location, Jack Woodward, of NAI West,
predicted the lease signing bodes well for commercial office leasing possibilities in Salt Lake City...
...Added colleague, Nick M. Teseros: “Because Barrick started its search process well in advance of the expiration of its
existing lease, the company was able to drive construction of a 100,000-square-foot office building, which is unique
in this economic climate.”
Union Pacific Depot ~
Many classic elements of Salt lake City's illustrious railroad history will be borrowed for Gateway's
new office addition from it's two existing Downtown Depot Gems
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Rio Grande Depot
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delts145
May 27, 2011, 5:00 AM
Update - Courthouse Crane and Renderings
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Here are the renderings Orlando linked to:
All images from tphifer.com
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delts145
May 27, 2011, 5:49 PM
Updates
I appologize for the quality of the pictures, they are from my phone...
The tower crane that was on a track has been removed. You can see track being dismantled:
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This is the last tower crane left on these two blocks:
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East entrance to Macey's?
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photoLith
May 27, 2011, 9:10 PM
Salt Lake City is kicking ass and taking names.
delts145
May 28, 2011, 1:36 PM
Downtown, Various Updates
Here are Orlando's pics:
Gallivan Center, Remake of large public plaza, which serves as a major gathering place for outdoor concerts and the like.
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Construction site of new Federal Courts Building
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222 South Main, New tower by Hamilton Partners of Chicago. Main tenant will be the expanded presence of Goldman Sachs
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I was happily surprised to see this building. It is on the south side of 5th south at about 5th or 6th west. I like it because it is good to see new buildings pop up to help enliven that industrial ghetto area along our on and off-ramp gateways into SLC. This building is also has some density and is built to the street front like the other older industrial warehouse buildings built along those streets. Does anybody know anything about this building. I didn't have time to stop and check out if they had a sign with a rendering and additional info. As you can tell, I was drifting into the other lane as I was trying to take the photo. Not recommended.
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Odd Fellows Hall (lifted, turned 180 degrees and moved to the other side of Market Street, in order to make way for the new Federal Courts building, under construction.
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delts145
May 29, 2011, 2:07 PM
Downtown Updates
Social Hall Avenue
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Harmon's Full Service Grocer
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Rendering and Construction site perspective of Harmon's Grocer from southwest corner.
Note, corner site to the left designated for residential tower.
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delts145
May 30, 2011, 2:05 PM
Downtown Updates
State Street - Here is a before pic, that gives you an idea of the base
of this tower's street engagement before the redo
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In this pic by John of the base of the same tower, you get an idea of
the major improvement made recently.
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delts145
May 31, 2011, 2:38 PM
Downtown Updates Continued...
South Temple, Macy's South Entrance
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delts145
Jun 1, 2011, 2:07 PM
Downtown Updates
Macy's Main Street Entrance
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delts145
Jun 2, 2011, 12:54 PM
Elaborate 19th Century, Main Street entrance, for new Macy's Regional Flagship
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Pic By John Martin
delts145
Jun 2, 2011, 1:21 PM
Note: The moderators removed a number of posts that were coming from a particular troll, and their resulting comments from other forumers. So, this page might seem a little discombobulated or changed. If your like me, and like your posts to contain twenty per page, and your returning to re-reference something, then just go to the previous page.
delts145
Jun 3, 2011, 12:44 PM
Downtown Updates - Street Engagements Emerge...
East entrance awning being assembled over newly constructed Main Street residential apartments. These apartments
are directly across the opposite side of Main Street from the Macy's entrance shown immediately above.
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Southern perimeter of the gigantic Z.C.M.I. block. This formerly huge fortress of a block is now once again
effectively dissected by the historic Regent Street. Pictured below, is the south entrance of Regent Street. Not pictured,
but walking south across 1st South Street, will soon be the continuation of Regent Street's dissection of an
additional block. What is currently not much more than back alley access to parking and rear entrances, will become
a gloriously vibrant street, including offices, restaurants and a major Safdie designed Theater. The Theater's primary
purpose will be used for first run touring, extended stay Broadway Productions. This same Regent Street will continue
South until it engages with the newly reconfigured Gallivan Public Plaza, pictured in the following post, #2453.
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In addition to the restoration of Regent Street, pictured above, is the restoration of another historic street.
'Richards Street', will dissect the immediate block to the West. This block, locally referred to as the Crossroads Block,
was converted in the 70's to a fortress like mall. Consequently, Richard's street was buried. This resurrected, historic
street will dissect it's ten acre block in a similar manner to Regent Street. Pictured below, is the newly completed
north entrance to Richards Street
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Looking South on Richards Street, toward an 'Italian-Style' Piazza, under construction. Flanking both sides of this
north section of Richards, will be ground level retail, mixed with restaurants. Above floors are upscale condominiums.
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South Temple Street entrance to the new Promontory Residential Tower.
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delts145
Jun 3, 2011, 12:54 PM
Gallivan Center Update
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Gallivan Center, I took this pic this morning.
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BrighamYen
Jun 3, 2011, 5:42 PM
Still no mention of what other stores/restaurants will be coming to City Creek Center??? :hell:
delts145
Jun 4, 2011, 12:25 PM
Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing Brigham, as have been many SLC forumers. Enough of the teasing already...:yes:
delts145
Jun 4, 2011, 12:27 PM
Downtown Updates
One of many future outdoor dining and gathering areas.
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Side entryway to Promontory, highrise residential.
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Anticipation continues to build for what will be a very chic, contemporary West Temple Street Entrance for
Nordstrom's regional flagship. The very contemporary styling of the Nordstrom facade is part of the deliberate,
eclectic mix of perimeter architecture, built into the Center throughout. This, in order to give the Center a more
mixed, over time, organic feel. In many areas throughout the lower commerical and upper residential levels of the
interior street walkways, is a repeating brick and stone finished style that is quite simple and classic. IMO, this
is understandable, given the future presence of large shade trees, flowing streams, countless adornments, bridges
and fountains. It will be interesting to see how the different retailers meld their individual street presence, signage
and windows into the dictates of what the City Creek Center allows as their definition of charming elegance and
unobtrusive good taste.
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Rooftop of Nordstrom
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Overview of western portion of the City Creek Center
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View of one of the rooftop gardens
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delts145
Jun 5, 2011, 12:43 PM
Downtown
Here are some above shots I took with my phone...sorry for the bad quality. They don't show much that we haven't already seen, other than maybe the sliding glass overhang in place.
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delts145
Jun 5, 2011, 12:56 PM
Downtown Adj.
Speaking of the Pioneer Theater, how's this great little project coming? This housing restoration for guest artists was slated to be finished this month. Are they on schedule?
I work for Pioneer Theater from time to time. Their housing project is pretty far along. They will start using it with their first show next season, so September.
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PTC will turn historic dorm into apartments for guest artists.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/49921718-76/company-theater-pioneer-artists.html.csp
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RobertWalpole
Jun 5, 2011, 2:25 PM
What an awesome little city! I want to visit this place.
This building demonstrates what a great city this is. Few places would build something like this.
I'd like to ask residents if there is prejudice against Catholics and non-Mormons. What percentage of the people are Mormon?
I ask only because I knew a Puerto Rican woman who spent some time there for work and strangers would often stop her on the street to ask her ancestry which she (and I) found quite odd.
Anyway, this looks like a magnificent city.
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QuarterMileSidewalk
Jun 5, 2011, 11:40 PM
^RobertWalpole, I agree: SLC is looking awesome. I can't wait until the next time I'm able to visit!
As to your question, I'm not a Utah resident, but this may be of help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City#Demographics
Specifically, less than 50% of the residents of Salt Lake City proper are LDS. They may still be a majority in the county, though. They are 62% of the population of the whole state. SLC has some pretty strong non-Mormon communities.
Also, I've never heard of stopping someone in the street to ask about their ancestry, but I'm a Southern California Mormon, so maybe it's different in Utah...:koko: We like to make fun of Utah Mormons, sometimes...:D Mormons do a lot of genealogy work, for specific doctrinal reasons, but usually only for family. I imagine that sort of thing is born out of honest curiosity, not any sort of racial prejudice.
delts145
Jun 6, 2011, 12:24 PM
:fireworks Start of construction for S.L. public safety building:fireworks
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705373682/Ceremony-marks-start-of-construction-for-SL-public-safety-building.html
..."It's very exciting to see the progress that's happening," said Salt Lake Police Chief Chris Burbank. "It represents a milestone, not only for the police department but for Salt Lake City as a whole."
The $125 million public safety building will house the capital city's police and fire departments, as well as an emergency operations center. Construction is expected to be completed in May 2013...
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Salt Lake Police's Andros bomb robot digs up dirt during a groundbreaking ceremony for the Salt Lake City Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City Wednesday, June 1, 2011. (Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News)
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Renderings of the future public safety building in Salt Lake City. The building will be net zero, producing as much energy as it uses.
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Mayor Ralph Beacker speaks during a groundbreaking ceremony for the Salt Lake City Public Safety Building in Salt Lake City Wednesday, June 1, 2011. (Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News)
Work begins on SLC’s landmark public safety HQ
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/51924998-78/public-building-125-design.html.csp
Calling it an “auspicious day” for Salt Lake City, Mayor Ralph Becker joined a small army of police, firefighters and city dignitaries Wednesday in turning the first shovel of dirt for construction of downtown’s $125 million public safety headquarters just east of Library Square.
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(Paul Fraughton | The Salt Lake Tribune) Renderings of the new public safety building for Salt Lake City.
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RobertWalpole
Jun 7, 2011, 10:53 AM
^RobertWalpole, I agree: SLC is looking awesome. I can't wait until the next time I'm able to visit!....
Thanks for the info! This is a nice city.
delts145
Jun 7, 2011, 1:58 PM
What an awesome little city! I want to visit this place.
This building demonstrates what a great city this is. Few places would build something like this.
^^^
Hey Robert, I noticed you really appreciated the quality of the old world style construction of This Gateway Six office
mid-rise. Like you, I'm a big proponent of these classic styles being added to the CBD, as long as they pay attention to
detail, and use quality materials.
Gateway Six
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Boyer
This new mid-rise below is just being completed. For now, it is referred
to as Tower 5, and is part of the new City Creek Complex. T-Mac took
this shot the other night, and I thought you would really appreciate
the beauty of the building itself.
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Utahrd!!!
Jun 8, 2011, 2:12 AM
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/saks-fifth-avenue-off-5th-to-increase-store-count-in-2011-2011-05-16
Looks like Saks is out...At least maybe this year?
I love SLC and want it to be a powerhouse in the west, but I don't think we're at that level yet, as consumers.
BrighamYen
Jun 8, 2011, 3:04 AM
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/saks-fifth-avenue-off-5th-to-increase-store-count-in-2011-2011-05-16
Looks like Saks is out...At least maybe this year?
I love SLC and want it to be a powerhouse in the west, but I don't think we're at that level yet, as consumers.
There are already multiple "powerhouses" in the West that SLC would never surpass from a consumer standpoint.
LA, SF, Las Vegas, and even Seattle, San Diego, and Portland are all ahead of SLC when it comes to retail offerings. At the very least, SLC should be on par with Portland before it tries to become the major powerhouse of the West!
delts145
Jun 8, 2011, 12:40 PM
As far as the Metro goes, I think Salt Lake City's CSA will continue to reach major goals in it's retail offerings. While the Wasatch Front will be 2.5 million before long, it has a ways to go before it is the size of a metro Phoenix or Seattle. However, I think Salt Lake has passed many Western or National CBDs in many aspects, and will continue to catch up and pass others. It's already much classier and far more elegant in many areas, as far as the CBD goes, and will continue to gain important ground through this decade at a very rapid rate. Also remember, Saks has vacated their locations in Portland and San Diego. Salt Lake's massive, burgeoning, very upscale tourist market will continue to grow at a phenomenal rate, and continue to add five star amenities to it's CBD and adj. ski resorts. In just the past few years it has added establishments like The Grand America, which blows anything in most national Downtown markets out of the water. When a Neimans or a Saks comes to Salt Lake, and they will, it will be at the heart of it's CBD, not in some far off, upscale suburb. How many CBDs will be able to say that. Unlike most downtowns, which are shunned by upscale tourism, Salt Lake's downtown is it's hub. In just the past couple of seasons, a major Waldorf Astoria, St. Regis, and Montage have come on line in it's adjacent resorts. Because Salt Lake's world class resorts are so close, they continue to push not only their own, but Salt Lake City's amenities upward at an astounding rate. Anyone who has kept track of Salt Lake's rise in the past ten years since the Olympics can attest to this fact. And now, The City Creek Center sets a new standard for CBDs in the West. Salt Lake's attractive CSA business climate and major resorts, will feed the continual parade of major and very beautiful projects, even in today's market. Retail is an extremely volutile industry right now, even in a relatively booming and contiually expanding market like the Wasatch Front. Salt Lake City is one of the few markets where many national heavyweights are actually expanding to. I think we're just seeing the tip of the ice berg for Salt Lake City, and it's CSA. Short of a complete implosion of the economy, we're going to see some remarkable additions into this Metro over the next ten years, much like the last ten.
For a host of reasons, the bulk of the national economy continues to shrink. However, Salt Lake's CSA market, continues to be on the short list of preferred locations to expand or move the entire business to. I shake my head every day at what States like my California are doing to their economys. Short of an internal revolution, I don't see Calif. making a 180 any time soon. California's and many other States inability to correct their situations will only continue to shift momentum to places like Salt Lake, Denver or Austin.
delts145
Jun 8, 2011, 1:15 PM
Update, North Entrance, Richards Street Project
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BrighamYen
Jun 9, 2011, 7:20 AM
As far as the Metro goes, I think Salt Lake City's CSA will continue to reach major goals in it's retail offerings. While the Wasatch Front will be 2.5 million before long, it has a ways to go before it is the size of a metro Phoenix or Seattle. However, I think Salt Lake has passed many Western or National CBDs in many aspects, and will continue to catch up and pass others. It's already much classier and far more elegant in many areas, as far as the CBD goes, and will continue to gain important ground through this decade at a very rapid rate. Also remember, Saks has vacated their locations in Portland and San Diego. Salt Lake's massive, burgeoning, very upscale tourist market will continue to grow at a phenomenal rate, and continue to add five star amenities to it's CBD and adj. ski resorts. In just the past few years it has added establishments like The Grand America, which blows anything in most national Downtown markets out of the water. When a Neimans or a Saks comes to Salt Lake, and they will, it will be at the heart of it's CBD, not in some far off, upscale suburb. How many CBDs will be able to say that. Unlike most downtowns, which are shunned by upscale tourism, Salt Lake's downtown is it's hub. In just the past couple of seasons, a major Waldorf Astoria, St. Regis, and Montage have come on line in it's adjacent resorts. Because Salt Lake's world class resorts are so close, they continue to push not only their own, but Salt Lake City's amenities upward at an astounding rate. Anyone who has kept track of Salt Lake's rise in the past ten years since the Olympics can attest to this fact. And now, The City Creek Center sets a new standard for CBDs in the West. Salt Lake's attractive CSA business climate and major resorts, will feed the continual parade of major and very beautiful projects, even in today's market. Retail is an extremely volutile industry right now, even in a relatively booming and contiually expanding market like the Wasatch Front. Salt Lake City is one of the few markets where many national heavyweights are actually expanding to. I think we're just seeing the tip of the ice berg for Salt Lake City, and it's CSA. Short of a complete implosion of the economy, we're going to see some remarkable additions into this Metro over the next ten years, much like the last ten.
For a host of reasons, the bulk of the national economy continues to shrink. However, Salt Lake's CSA market, continues to be on the short list of preferred locations to expand or move the entire business to. I shake my head every day at what States like my California are doing to their economys. Short of an internal revolution, I don't see Calif. making a 180 any time soon. California's and many other States inability to correct their situations will only continue to shift momentum to places like Salt Lake, Denver or Austin.
Although I HIGHLY doubt Neiman Marcus or Saks Fifth Avenue will open in Utah, I do think it's really awesome that SLC is getting as much as it has within the last decade and a half. TRAX, CCC, the library, etc.
And another thing you forgot to include is that it's not just whether or not a city gets a particular designer or retailer, but what CALIBER that store is. In the world of designers, there are A stores and B stores. There are many more B stores than A stores and I can bet you ANYTHING that SLC would NEVER get an A store. For example, Prada in Beverly Hills is considered a FLAGSHIP store designed by Rem Koolhaas. But even if, let's say, SLC miraculously got a Prada store, it would very unlikely carry ready to wear and would focus more on shoes and bags making it a B store.
So that makes it almost impossible for SLC to become a retail powerhouse of the West. Most of the designers and stores in LA, SF, and Las Vegas are A stores while Seattle (with the exception of Nordstrom), Portland, Phoenix have smaller stores. Seattle has a Barney's New York, but it is absolutely tiny compared to the one in Beverly Hills.
RobertWalpole
Jun 9, 2011, 11:49 AM
Is this building in the downtown or a few miles outside? It's beautiful.
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Is this a new buillding? If so, it's impressive! Also, are all of the streets lined with tree and flower-filled medians like this?
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RobertWalpole
Jun 9, 2011, 11:54 AM
^^^
Hey Robert, I noticed you really appreciated the quality of the old world style construction of This Gateway Six office
mid-rise. Like you, I'm a big proponent of these classic styles being added to the CBD, as long as they pay attention to
detail, and use quality materials.
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Thanks for posting these! Although you're from LA, do you know this city well. I'm really impressed with it.
RobertWalpole
Jun 9, 2011, 12:05 PM
Are all of the streets landscaped like this? At the very least is South Temple landscaped like this?
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delts145
Jun 9, 2011, 2:00 PM
Although I HIGHLY doubt Neiman Marcus or Saks Fifth Avenue will open in Utah, I do think it's really awesome that SLC is getting as much as it has within the last decade and a half. TRAX, CCC, the library, etc.
I totally respect your opinion Brigham, especially your appreciation for the finer things in life. No one should expect a Saks or a Neimans to make an announcement of a Salt Lake location in the next couple of years, and I realize that is perhaps what you were implying. I would strongly disagree with anyone though, regarding Salt Lake City or it's rapidly expanding metro as NEVER landing a Neiman Marcus or a Saks Fifth Avenue. I am very confident that given a reasonably healthy economy, there will be future retailers, such as Saks announced within the next five to seven years. I am from a retail background, and have managed in the past one of the highest end sections in the nation, at a Bloomingdales. Many of your A and B points are retail 101, but on the Neimans and Saks issue, it would be like telling Denver X number of years ago, that it would never have a Saks or Neimans.
Downtown Salt Lake City's retail market will not be influenced solely by it's metro inhabitants. Certainly, the continuance of Salt Lake's booming metro expansion is important, but one must also put a heavy amount of attention on it's huge visitor market. Downtown Salt Lake City is already one of the leading tourist destinations in the nation. At the peak of the former Crossroads Nordstrom, 40-plus percent of it's business was coming from out of town visitors. Downtown Salt Lake City is not like many Downtowns in the nation. For example, in the forseeable future(ten years)you will never find a flagship style Nordstrom in Downtown L.A., but it's a perfect fit right now for Downtown Salt Lake City. Downtown Salt Lake's City Creek Center, with it's adj. uber chic ski resorts, Sundance, General Conferences and a major Convention Center accross the street, is bringing total visitors into it's core by the millions. The Downtown tourist trade will only increase by leaps and bounds over the next ten years. A large percentage of those people have upper class incomes, and demand a first class retail experience along with their exciting ski trip/convention visit. For retailers, a booming Downtown Salt Lake City presents an opportunity to cash in on large seaonal spikes of visitors. These predictable events, such as the twice annual Outdoor Retailers Show, Sundance, and General Conferences twice annually, are akin to additional Christmas spikes. A Saks department store will come to Downtown Salt Lake just as surely as they came to Cherry Creek in Denver, or as surely as Major League Baseball or Football will come to Salt Lake. While Saks will probably close a few more of it's underperforming stores such as Portland, Downtown Salt Lake City will for a host of reasons, continue to build a glaringly needed niche for a Saks.
goldcntry
Jun 9, 2011, 2:10 PM
Is this building in the downtown or a few miles outside? It's beautiful.
This is the new Justice Center just east of the City/County building (5th south and 3rd East).
Is this a new buillding? If so, it's impressive! Also, are all of the streets lined with tree and flower-filled medians like this?
Yep! It's one of my favorites of the CCC development... Looks even better in person!
Are all of the streets landscaped like this? At the very least is South Temple landscaped like this?
Most of the streetscapes surrounding Temple Square/Church Headquarters are landscaped like this. Now with City Creek opening soon, similar landscaping is/will be expanding south. My favorite streetscape is along North Temple with an artificial creek running on the north side of North Temple.
T-Mac
Jun 9, 2011, 3:43 PM
goldcntry, here is the north side of North Temple that you mentioned. I took this photo last year.
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delts145
Jun 9, 2011, 6:56 PM
^^^
I love those type of shots that you take T-Mac. They remind me of something right out of a Kinkade piece.
Here are a few daylight pics of the next curb block to the east, and the recently completed Historical Records Library.
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by jetsongreen
photoLith
Jun 9, 2011, 7:06 PM
I love that little landscaped creek out in front of that building, its very well done.
RobertWalpole
Jun 9, 2011, 7:55 PM
Very beautiful.
Can you guys post photos of the fountains and other water feautures?
T-Mac
Jun 9, 2011, 8:18 PM
Here are some of my photos.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5291/5423834121_b29aa0d58b_b.jpg
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RobertWalpole
Jun 9, 2011, 11:00 PM
Nice photos!
Are there any old, cast-iron ones with sculptures like one finds in the northeast?
delts145
Jun 10, 2011, 2:30 AM
Fountains & Water Features of Downtown Salt Lake City
Beautiful fountains and grand water features have become a
prevalent fixture of Downtown Salt Lake City over the past few
years. Each development boom seems to add many more, as Salt Lake
City's CBD marches forward in it's amazing transformation. The following
are pics of some of those water features, which have added another
level of beauty and excitement to the evolving streetscape of downtown.
A tiny hint of things to come. This is the first of what will be many water features
created for City Creek Center. Waterfalls, large streams, babbling brooks and grand fountains will soon appear one
by one, as this massive, 25 acre center nears completion.
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By T-Mac
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By John Martin
Olympic Plaza ~ Gateway District,
This fountain's water display is timed to music. The selection of music will often
coincide with a particular holiday or celebration.
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By James Neeley
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By Selah Creative
One of two historic fountains at Washington Square, looking Northwest
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By Terryzaki
Looking East
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By Terryzaki
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By Todd Keith
LDS Business College Campus, looking North toward restored Devereaux Mansion
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By Kendan Erickson
Looking South toward NBA arena
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By Kendan Erickson
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By Fenwic89fd
Symphony Plaza ~ Wall of water leading toward entrance of Symphony Hall
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By Fenwic89fd
Temple Square
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By J. Stephen
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By Shafnitz
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By Mansley
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Water design Inc.
City Creek & Memory Grove Parks
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By Kevin Delaney
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By Awen Photography
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By Awen Photography
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By Awen Photography
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By Edgar Zuniga
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By Karma17
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By Karma17
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By Wibbet
Conference Center ~ Rooftop fountains, gardens and ground level water features
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By Ringmaster006
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By Austinmiles
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By T-Mac
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By Flyer6757
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By Piercemr
Mountain Stream, which had been buried by modern progress once again runs above ground through the heart of downtown
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By Jetsongreen
Salt Palace Convention Center, East Entrance
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By Miss Leslie
Main Street Plaza and Adjacent Gardens
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By Loganinve
South Entrance
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By Micah55555
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By Micah55555
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By Micah55555
Little America Hotel
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By Fluxn
Library Square By CPVLive
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The Grand America Hotel
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By Nomad Travels
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By Liesel's Easel
State Capitol
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By Sudweeks
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s.p.hansen
Jun 10, 2011, 6:06 AM
Thanks for posting these! Although you're from LA, do you know this city well. I'm really impressed with it.
delts should be paid a handsome allowance from Salt Lake City for how well he presents it here. :yes:
delts145
Jun 10, 2011, 11:12 AM
Thanks S.P., but my little contribution wouldn't be much if you guys didn't continue to take all of the great pics.
delts145
Jun 10, 2011, 11:31 AM
HUD secretary: Salt Lake is driving a change across America
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705373718/HUD-secretary-Salt-Lake-is-driving-a-change-across-America.html
...After signing over a $5 million grant in October — one of the largest sums doled out for regional development in the country — he wanted to see what the city plans to do with the money.
Wednesday's explanation included a walking tour of the 200 S. 500 West block, between Utah Transit Authority's Intermodal Hub and the historic Rio Grande building. It's a spot that Salt Lake Mayor Ralph Becker said used to be "a really derelict, downtrodden piece of our city" and will soon be "transformed into a new and much more healthier, walkable, livable community."...
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Jeffrey D. Allred, Deseret News
HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan speaks after a walking tour of downtown at the Rio Grande Station in Salt Lake City Wednesday, June 1, 2011. Other participants included Salt Lake Chamber's Natalie Gochnour, left, Lt. Gov. Greg Bell, Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon, Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker and Envision Utah Chairman Robert Grow, right.
Housing secretary praises Utah growth vision
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/51925771-90/area-development-donovan-lake.html.csp
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(Christ Detrick | The Salt Lake Tribune) U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan talks with Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker and Salt Lake County Mayor Peter Corroon on Wednesday during a kickoff event of the Wasatch Choice for 2040 Regional Vision. The leaders say they expect transit development to help guide growth in the future to be more reliant on walking, biking and transit and less on motor vehicles.
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delts145
Jun 10, 2011, 11:38 AM
I took a shot of the new Metcom Building on 500 East.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5117/5798622591_0f3a920ff6_b.jpg
Pic By T-Mac
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BrighamYen
Jun 10, 2011, 5:08 PM
I totally respect your opinion Brigham, especially your appreciation for the finer things in life. No one should expect a Saks or a Neimans to make an announcement of a Salt Lake location in the next couple of years, and I realize that is perhaps what you were implying. I would strongly disagree with anyone though, regarding Salt Lake City or it's rapidly expanding metro as NEVER landing a Neiman Marcus or a Saks Fifth Avenue. I am very confident that given a reasonably healthy economy, there will be future retailers, such as Saks announced within the next five to seven years. I am from a retail background, and have managed in the past one of the highest end sections in the nation, at a Bloomingdales.
Managing the Century City Bloomingdales doesn't mean that you make the corporate decisions for other higher end department stores. My friend is a "higher level" employee at Christian Dior (he's based in NY) and worked for Gucci as well, but that doesn't mean he knows why or where the next Dior or Gucci is going to go.
Many of your A and B points are retail 101, but on the Neimans and Saks issue, it would be like telling Denver X number of years ago, that it would never have a Saks or Neimans.
It's retail 101 because that's the fundamentals of retail. An A store is bigger and offers more exclusive selections than a B store. SLC would NEVER get a West coast FLAGSHIP A-store designer that beats our any of the other larger markets like LA, SF, Las Vegas, Seattle, or even Denver.
Downtown Salt Lake City's retail market will not be influenced solely by it's metro inhabitants.
Neither do any of the other markets in the U.S. Most retailers depend on a mixture of both local and visitors. But places like LA and SF have such a large wealthy population base that they do not depend AS MUCH on visitors.
Certainly, the continuance of Salt Lake's booming metro expansion is important, but one must also put a heavy amount of attention on it's huge visitor market. Downtown Salt Lake City is already one of the leading tourist destinations in the nation.
Where is your source that "Downtown SLC is already one of the leading tourist destinations in the nation?" How many exactly? Is it influenced by Mormon tourism and ski trips?
At the peak of the former Crossroads Nordstrom, 40-plus percent of it's business was coming from out of town visitors. Downtown Salt Lake City is not like many Downtowns in the nation.
You're right, it's not like Downtown Portland, Seattle, Denver, SF, Chicago, etc. It's a lot smaller.
For example, in the forseeable future(ten years)you will never find a flagship style Nordstrom in Downtown L.A., but it's a perfect fit right now for Downtown Salt Lake City.
Downtown LA is filled with historic buildings that lend themselves well to future retail development, especially by Pershing Square and the Jewelry District, which has been waning during the economic downturn.
Downtown LA has already been APPROACHED by "uber-chic" companies that will obviously return when the economy rebounds. I'm sure you're unaware that Mandarin Oriental was supposed to go into the Grand Ave Project by the cultural "powerhouse" of the music center. As the Purple Line is extended to UCLA, the Regional Connector is completed, and the DTLA streetcar is finished, there is very little doubt that higher end retailers will enter into the market within the next ten years. Although there are plans possibly to build a flagship Nordstrom where you used to work at Century City coinciding with the subway connecting Century City, which is LA's second CBD.
Downtown Salt Lake's City Creek Center, with it's adj. uber chic ski resorts, Sundance, General Conferences and a major Convention Center accross the street, is bringing total visitors into it's core by the millions. The Downtown tourist trade will only increase by leaps and bounds over the next ten years. A large percentage of those people have upper class incomes, and demand a first class retail experience along with their exciting ski trip/convention visit.
Do you have sources for ANY OF these claims?
For retailers, a booming Downtown Salt Lake City presents an opportunity to cash in on large seaonal spikes of visitors. These predictable events, such as the twice annual Outdoor Retailers Show, Sundance, and General Conferences twice annually, are akin to additional Christmas spikes. A Saks department store will come to Downtown Salt Lake just as surely as they came to Cherry Creek in Denver, or as surely as Major League Baseball or Football will come to Salt Lake.
I'm glad because it will finally catch up with the rest of the nation's prospering cities.
While Saks will probably close a few more of it's underperforming stores such as Portland, Downtown Salt Lake City will for a host of reasons, continue to build a glaringly needed niche for a Saks.
I highly doubt that but only time will tell!
Utahrd!!!
Jun 11, 2011, 5:01 AM
I never meant for my Saks comment to break out a "my city is better than your city" argument. And to be honest, I don't understand half of the jargon that you guys are talking about. But I do know that I love SLC, I want to see it flourish and I feel it has great things to offer it's residents and tourists, aside from the possibility of top shelf shopping like a SAKS or Neiman Markus. Sure those types of stores maybe attractive to more tourists, but shopping in my opinion has never been at the nucleus of the experience that is Utah.
I work at a world wide hotel chain in downtown SLC. I had a discussion the other day over lunch with my properties assistant GM about why the Jazz will never win an NBA championship. In my opinion it is because the stigma of a boring town to the NBA athlete persona i.e. a lackluster nightlife. Utah's tourism has always been about outdoors, and adventure, skiing, hiking, biking, boating, camping, hunting. I may be wrong but I don't think your average college kid coming to the NBA is looking forward to doing those kinds of activities when shopping NBA teams.
Again I may be way off base here, (and the moderators may lock me out for being off topic) but to sum it up: SAKS or something similar would be cool, but I don't think SLC is currently their market. Who knows what the future may hold for SLC, it does look like a promising future for it's residents and tourists though. (Just visit Fashion Place Mall, you'll see what I mean.)
BrighamYen
Jun 11, 2011, 8:44 AM
I never meant for my Saks comment to break out a "my city is better than your city" argument. And to be honest, I don't understand half of the jargon that you guys are talking about. But I do know that I love SLC, I want to see it flourish and I feel it has great things to offer it's residents and tourists, aside from the possibility of top shelf shopping like a SAKS or Neiman Markus. Sure those types of stores maybe attractive to more tourists, but shopping in my opinion has never been at the nucleus of the experience that is Utah.
I work at a world wide hotel chain in downtown SLC. I had a discussion the other day over lunch with my properties assistant GM about why the Jazz will never win an NBA championship. In my opinion it is because the stigma of a boring town to the NBA athlete persona i.e. a lackluster nightlife. Utah's tourism has always been about outdoors, and adventure, skiing, hiking, biking, boating, camping, hunting. I may be wrong but I don't think your average college kid coming to the NBA is looking forward to doing those kinds of activities when shopping NBA teams.
Again I may be way off base here, (and the moderators may lock me out for being off topic) but to sum it up: SAKS or something similar would be cool, but I don't think SLC is currently their market. Who knows what the future may hold for SLC, it does look like a promising future for it's residents and tourists though. (Just visit Fashion Place Mall, you'll see what I mean.)
Wow an actual rational response, thank you! I agree with most of what you wrote here. Utah has always been about the great outdoors and the beautiful natural scenery. The wonderful summertime thunderstorms, etc. Utah will never be known for "Saks and/or Neimans" (i.e., for great shopping). But yes, I know the stores that are going into Fashion Place Mall, like an H&M and Crate and Barrel, and those stores have been around in other cities for a VERY long time relatively speaking, so like I said before, SLC has a lot of "catching up" to do to the rest of the cities, but it will hardly exceed the current "powerhouses." But again, I agree with you, SLC doesn't need to exceed other cities in shopping to be a great place to visit or live.
delts145
Jun 11, 2011, 3:27 PM
I never meant for my Saks comment to break out a "my city is better than your city" argument. And to be honest, I don't understand half of the jargon that you guys are talking about. But I do know that I love SLC, I want to see it flourish and I feel it has great things to offer it's residents and tourists, aside from the possibility of top shelf shopping like a SAKS or Neiman Markus. Sure those types of stores maybe attractive to more tourists, but shopping in my opinion has never been at the nucleus of the experience that is Utah.
I work at a world wide hotel chain in downtown SLC. I had a discussion the other day over lunch with my properties assistant GM about why the Jazz will never win an NBA championship. In my opinion it is because the stigma of a boring town to the NBA athlete persona i.e. a lackluster nightlife. Utah's tourism has always been about outdoors, and adventure, skiing, hiking, biking, boating, camping, hunting. I may be wrong but I don't think your average college kid coming to the NBA is looking forward to doing those kinds of activities when shopping NBA teams.
Again I may be way off base here, (and the moderators may lock me out for being off topic) but to sum it up: SAKS or something similar would be cool, but I don't think SLC is currently their market. Who knows what the future may hold for SLC, it does look like a promising future for it's residents and tourists though. (Just visit Fashion Place Mall, you'll see what I mean.)
:) Utard, and I mean all of this in a very friendly response. You talk about the Jazz as if somehow over the past decades they have been non-competitive. The fact is, they have been in the top tier of NBA teams on average, who actually have been among the more competitive. I know, I know... they don't have an NBA title yet...But "Never Will", pleeease...;) They have as good or better chance than most of your NBA teams. Your point about lack of nightlife has truth, but then again, that's a double edged sword. According to several coaches on the East and West Coasts I've discussed this with, The Jazz maintain one of the best reputations among players, who are looking for a good place to locate their families. Nightlife, as everyone on the local threads points out, must continue to improve. I don't think any of us want an out of control or large portion of that nightlife to be raunchy and seedy, but the classier aspects of a good night life seems to be making excellent progress in Downtown. Hey, Salt Lake's Park City continually ranks in the top 5 Resorts in all of No. America for it's nightlife. Now, by the looks of it, Salt Lake's downtown is catching up.
I agree Utard, shopping is hardly the end all experience by which to make a complete judgement. Also, I realize that many points that I would make, would be preaching to the choir, since you work in the Hotel Industry yourself. Just take them as reading for 'at large' forumers.
I've lived in major world cities part-time a good portion of my life, including L.A. for over twenty years. What amazes me about Salt Lake City and it's metro over the past decade or two is the stunning progress that it continues to make. In many aspects, not only do I not think Salt Lake needs to catch up, but it has already passed many markets. Each year the list of passing up just gets bigger, and grows at an ever increasing rate. Sure, The Wasatch Front has yet to gain more ground, but my point is, that it doesn't take the patience of a Job. After all, anyone with even half a semblance of recent history would understand that.
Sure, the outdoors lifestyle, particularly because it is sooo metro convenient, is second to none. However, (and we're talking mostly about the thousands of high end skier/visitors) it is important to provide a large portion of those outdoor focused visitors with a full range of ammenities. For example, fifteen or even ten years ago, Salt Lake City's resorts would not have been given much of a second thought by the majortiy of high end, out of town, seasoned skiers. When you take into account the limited number of 'world class' skiing venues, capturing those big spending travelers becomes very important. That prevailing sentiment has changed dramatically in a few short years. Now, the world's most prestigious magazines related to Outdoor Sports, such as Skiing and or destination Travel in general, put Salt Lake's man made resorts and its nature made ammenities at the top. Even the exhaustive annual survey of the prestigious SKI Magazine(25,000 visitors surveyed) has ranked Deer Valley as #1 overall by a significant hands down, for four consecutive years. SKI is the last word for the majority of ski travelers, particularly of the upscale variety. The upscale ski market has become very important to the Salt Lake City CSA. Capturing those high end spenders is becoming a multi-billion dollar return for Salt Lake's downtown and metro resorts. This has only become increasingly important, as we've seen by the regular articles in the Deseret News and Tribune. Salt Lake is on the right path in providing those high end amenities and is doing it at an impressive rate. Hence the additions of top of the line establishments like The St. Regis, The Grand, The Montage, The Skylodge, The Waldorf Astoria, etc. Salt Lake has far more than just Stein's at the top of the U.S. heap of luxury establishments. Each one of those establishments carries an abundance of top tier restaurants, shops and a myriad of related services. For example, The Spa at Stein Erickson, was just ranked as the top in the U.S. by Conde Nast Traveler, http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51975268-79/spa-lodge-stein-conde.html.csp Soon, the Canyons Resort will be the largest single resort in all of the United States.
Purely from an outsider's perspective living in L.A., Salt Lake City continues to rock(those who are familiar with my writing, know that I love L.A. and have defended it ad nauseum). Readers of Travel and Leisure ranked Salt Lake City as the #1 destination for Winter and Holiday Season getaways. The long parade giving The Wasatch Front it's many top 1 through 10 rankings this year are being taken seriously. It's not all about just winning beauty contests, because many of these journals are among the most respected in their field. By all expert accounts, and leading magazines, journals and trade publications in their respective fields, Salt Lake City will continue to be among those handfull of cities that attracts major new expansion and business relocations. Whether those businesses are high tech, finance, travel, manufacturing or whatever related, Salt Lake City continues to buck the trends. Weekly, the newpapers reports are full of this proof. That proof has been well documented on this forum, as the many who actually keep track daily will verify.
In short, I saw a lot of hope and building among the people in the day to day Wasatch CSA. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing it in many markets nearly as much, and it only seems to be getting worse among the general populace.
Sometimes, certain forumers ask for proof of my claims. Well, as a purely friendly suggestion, if your really interested, then please go over the past twenty pages. :tup:
delts145
Jun 11, 2011, 3:59 PM
This is amazing to me, and just a small part of the ongoing billions in buildup over the past few years.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/318535704.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1307738219&Signature=IjQShhshkpmc%2F3RB%2BDviIsFkjfo%3D
delts145
Jun 11, 2011, 4:04 PM
ITT expansion to create over 2,700 jobs in Utah
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705374254/ITT-expansion-to-create-over-2700-jobs-in-Utah.html
SALT LAKE CITY — Utah got a big economic boost Thursday as a global defense contractor made a major commitment to increase its Utah operations and bring approximately 2,700 jobs to the state over the next 15 years.
Wages of those positions will exceed 125 percent of the Salt Lake County average salary.
The new jobs are part of ITT Electronic Systems' plan to expand its Salt Lake City composites engineering and manufacturing facility...
..."It's indicative of the momentum we're seeing in the state of Utah," Cox said. "When you see (high-skill) jobs like this coming into the state, there is the trickle effect … because of the other jobs (and) everything else that goes around supporting those new jobs."...
ITT gets $33.7M from Utah to add 2,700 jobs, facility
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51977109-79/itt-incentive-state-utah.html.csp
..."We have to look at many factors in making a decision" about where to locate, said Michael Therson, director of composites for ITT.
Utah, he said, has a "business-friendly" environment and an ample and educated workforce, to go along with a well-crafted, competitive incentive package.
Utah also has a good partnership with community colleges and technical schools that help train workers for manufacturing positions, Therson said...
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delts145
Jun 11, 2011, 4:24 PM
This building demonstrates what a great city this is. Few places would build something like this.
I don't know if anyone has posted it, but the entire building has been leased by a law firm
and construction of the offices has already started.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/5789390872_423f893c0a_b.jpg
Pic By T-Mac
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BrighamYen
Jun 11, 2011, 7:08 PM
Hey, Salt Lake's Park City continually ranks in the top 5 Resorts in all of No. America for it's nightlife. Now, by the looks of it, Salt Lake's downtown is catching up.
Wow, your obsession with SLC knows no bounds. Park City is NOT in any form part of SLC. Calling it "Salt Lake's Park City" only shows just how skewed your perception is of reality. What's next? Will Downtown Denver be sucked into the vortex of "Downtown Salt Lake City" too?
In many aspects, not only do I not think Salt Lake needs to catch up, but it has already passed many markets.
We were discussing specifically about SHOPPING and the diversity of retail options that "SLC" has or more accurately DOESN'T have. So in that regard, yes, it needs A LOT of catching up to do. For heaven's sake, Fashion Place Mall (in the far suburbs of SLC) is barely getting an H&M (discount fashionable clothing) and a Crate and Barrel (LA has 5 of them fyi).
We were NOT talking about how wonderful Utah's ski resorts are and how Deer Valley shot up to #1, "passing many markets." Deer Valley is also 40 minutes away from SLC.
Each year the list of passing up just gets bigger, and grows at an ever increasing rate.
This again is an exaggeration stemmed from your obsession with SLC.
Sure, the outdoors lifestyle, particularly because it is sooo metro convenient, is second to none. However, (and we're talking mostly about the thousands of high end skier/visitors) it is important to provide a large portion of those outdoor focused visitors with a full range of ammenities. For example, fifteen or even ten years ago, Salt Lake City's resorts would not have been given much of a second thought by the majortiy of high end, out of town, seasoned skiers. When you take into account the limited number of 'world class' skiing venues, capturing those big spending travelers becomes very important. That prevailing sentiment has changed dramatically in a few short years. Now, the world's most prestigious magazines related to Outdoor Sports, such as Skiing and or destination Travel in general, put Salt Lake's man made resorts and its nature made ammenities at the top. Even the exhaustive annual survey of the prestigious SKI Magazine(25,000 visitors surveyed) has ranked Deer Valley as #1 overall by a significant hands down, for four consecutive years. SKI is the last word for the majority of ski travelers, particularly of the upscale variety. The upscale ski market has become very important to the Salt Lake City CSA. Capturing those high end spenders is becoming a multi-billion dollar return for Salt Lake's downtown and metro resorts. This has only become increasingly important, as we've seen by the regular articles in the Deseret News and Tribune. Salt Lake is on the right path in providing those high end amenities and is doing it at an impressive rate. Hence the additions of top of the line establishments like The St. Regis, The Grand, The Montage, The Skylodge, The Waldorf Astoria, etc. Salt Lake has far more than just Stein's at the top of the U.S. heap of luxury establishments. Each one of those establishments carries an abundance of top tier restaurants, shops and a myriad of related services. For example, The Spa at Stein Erickson, was just ranked as the top in the U.S. by Conde Nast Traveler, http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/51975268-79/spa-lodge-stein-conde.html.csp Soon, the Canyons Resort will be the largest single resort in all of the United States.
Wow, all that to prove that Utah has bitchin' skiing, which everyone already knows!
Future Mayor
Jun 11, 2011, 10:28 PM
What is your issue with SLC Yen? Delts never said SLC would become THE powerhouses in the west but simply one of them. You continually rip everything Delts says with statements of NEVER, for example SLC will NEVER get a SAKS or a Neiman Marcus, and this knowledge is based on what? NOTHING
He never said he knew a store was coming, but that he simply anticipates that it will come.
As for the flagships in SLC, again Delts never said they would beat out other markets, but they can easily be on the same level. Directly from the Taubman site regarding City Creek Center.
http://www.taubman.com/leasing/421.html
The center will be anchored by a 124,000-square-foot, two-level Nordstrom and a 150,000-square-foot three-level Macy’s. Both stores will have flagship presentations.
I'm going to venture to guess that they have more inside information regarding flagships stores for City Creek Center than you do.
Yes Delts is big on SLC, he is and always has been a huge supporter of the city, but you simply seem to want to cut down every piece of information he posts, even if it's simply opinion.
The fact behind the ski information is that the majority of those out of town skiers coming to Utah's resort, including the luxury resorts, come through SLC international airport. Also coming through SLC Int are all the sundance film festival visitors. He wasn't trying to convince anyone that our resorts rock, because like you said, everyone knows that, just simply stating that as these resorts continue to increase in popularity and top rankings in top magazines, SLC will reap the benefits, because it is the urban core for those resorts.
BrighamYen
Jun 11, 2011, 11:05 PM
What is your issue with SLC Yen?
I have no issue with SLC. In fact, I am from there ("SLC metro"). I think my name gives that away pretty easily! lol
He never said he knew a store was coming, but that he simply anticipates that it will come.
delts145: "I am very confident that given a reasonably healthy economy, there will be future retailers, such as Saks announced within the next five to seven years."
I think that translates to "A Saks will come."
As for the flagships in SLC, again Delts never said they would beat out other markets, but they can easily be on the same level. Directly from the Taubman site regarding City Creek Center.
http://www.taubman.com/leasing/421.html
The center will be anchored by a 124,000-square-foot, two-level Nordstrom and a 150,000-square-foot three-level Macy’s. Both stores will have flagship presentations.
delts: "passing other markets" sounds like "beating out other markets" to me.
He is also quoted as saying: "...in the forseeable future(ten years)you will never find a flagship style Nordstrom in Downtown L.A., but it's a perfect fit right now for Downtown Salt Lake City."
That sounds like "beating out other markets" to me.
And no where does the website state that there will be OTHER flagship retailers besides the two regional flagships of Macy's and Nordstrom.
I'm going to venture to guess that they have more inside information regarding flagships stores for City Creek Center than you do.
Of course they have more "information" about it since they are the operators of the mall. But nowhere does the website say OTHER flagship retailers are coming. And remember, we're talking regional flagship here, not West Coast flagship. Will it be on par and larger than the Nordstrom in Downtown Seattle? What kind of designers selections will be offered? Will it carry a wide selection of exclusive labels not found anywhere else?
Yes Delts is big on SLC, he is and always has been a huge supporter of the city, but you simply seem to want to cut down every piece of information he posts, even if it's simply opinion.
That is obviously not true. I only questioned where he got his information from, that's all, and gave MY OPINION as well.
"Downtown Salt Lake City is already one of the leading tourist destinations in the nation (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5309277&postcount=2472)?," "passing other markets?," etc. Where are the sources?
And I agreed that the skiing is bitchin' so I was not "cutting down every piece of info"!
s.p.hansen
Jun 11, 2011, 11:22 PM
BrighamYen,
Stop assuming the worst intelligence in people and then correcting them based off that assumption. Actually take time to read and then respond thoughtfully, preferably with facts.
Your lashing out at delts is not called for. Perhaps you would be better off expressing yourself in a different medium like one involving crayons.
BrighamYen
Jun 11, 2011, 11:28 PM
BrighamYen,
Stop assuming the worst intelligence in people and then correcting them based off that assumption. Actually take time to read and then respond thoughtfully, preferably with facts.
Your lashing out at delts is not called for. Perhaps you would be better off expressing yourself in a different medium like one involving crayons.
Responding with FACTS is exactly what I'm searching for and it is sorely missing from this discussion unfortunately. Nothing delts145 stated had ANY sources whatsoever. There is nothing factual about that.
There is no lashing out, as only those who support his assumptions and fantasies would consider. I hope I'm not bursting anyone's bubble/fantasy here. All I'm doing is asking where the sources are. Personal attacks, like "drawing with crayons" should be uncalled for.
scottharding
Jun 12, 2011, 12:23 AM
Fact: Everyone knows SLC's dick is bigger than LA's.
Wait, is that not what we're arguing here? Sorry, my bad. That's just what it sounded like.
John Martin
Jun 12, 2011, 12:50 AM
If I wanted to live in LA, I would. And similarly, if I wanted to talk about it, I'd do it in an LA discussion thread. This is the Salt Lake comp thread, and this blabber obviously doesn't have any potential. Let's just give it up.
Viperlord
Jun 12, 2011, 1:36 AM
:previous::previous:
:haha::haha:
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/3/37538/1655250-your_argument_is_invalid_pony_super.jpg
Come on guys, this forum is not for bickering and argueing, trolling, etc...
Thanks for your cooperation:yes:
Future Mayor
Jun 12, 2011, 1:58 AM
Thank you Viperlord for the reminder. I was getting sucked into the trolling. This is a compilation thread, pointing out what development is going on in the SLC Metro, with a little speculation/wishful thinking of what could be in the future.
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