[ComandanteCero]

That and it has nothing on Grand Plaza Apartments across the street when it comes to ugly. That complex is in a class of its own. They even doubled up the ugly in case you overlooked just one tower.

In fact, I'd boost it up to fugly.

BTW since I've never done a shot explicitly showing Ely, here you go:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4475/tx12.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tx12.jpg)

ah, thanks!

:cheers:

[Rocket1]

and yes, STR's model is the best way to see it. It appears green and just west of 900 N. Michigan
(the Bloomingdale's building, as it is sometimes called)


** See post #59, which is on page 3 of this very thread
"It appears green"?

Isn't the Elysian light beige in that image?

[ComandanteCero]

you might be thinking of Park tower (the right most tower).

[Rocket1]

you might be thinking of Park tower (the right most tower).
You're right. I was a bit confused by the NE orientation

[trvlr70]

Just got back from a Labor Day trip to the beach and found this out.

[Adam186]

Any pics of the site?

Edit: Nevermind, found some here. Thanks guys! http://www.newcityskyline.com/ElysianConstruction.html

[SolarWind]

September 6, 2006

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/9853/p9060071ir4.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6153/p9060075an8.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8900/p9060074fa3.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3807/p9060076mz4.jpg

[nomarandlee]

AWESOME Update Shots Solar!

[Tom In Chicago]

Thanks for the pix. . . I hate driving around that part of town so I don't get up there that much. . .

[jcchii]

great.
what's the situation on the surface lot across the street, if any

[Chicago Shawn]

great.
what's the situation on the surface lot across the street, if any

The Scottish Rite twin towers will go on that lot.
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2841/scottishritetq9.jpg

[DetroitSky]

I love the slender, old look to The Elysian. Very interesting design.

[sentinel]

^^ Excellent story. Thanks Luke.

[spyguy]

http://www.globest.com/news/728_728/chicago/149236-1.html

Elysian Begins $275M Hotel/Residential Condo
By Marita Thomas

With final funding of $203 million from Hypo Real Estate Capital Corp., Elysian Worldwide has begun construction of Elysian Hotel and Private Residences. The 60-story tower at 11 E. Walton St. combines 188 hotel condo suites with 51 residential condos.

Two years ago, the developer acquired land at the corner of Walton and Rush streets, according to Mary Beth Malone, a partner along with David Pisor, CEO of Elysian Worldwide. “We originally designed a 39-story building,” she tells GlobeSt.com, “but later acquired a contiguous parcel.” This called for a redesign, which allows for a courtyard and four-story spa, dining and service-retail addition to the tower, “which we needed to expand in order to afford development of the full complex,” she says. The full parcel previously contained surface parking, some small buildings and a 7-Eleven convenience store.

The all-in cost is approximately $275 million, including the cost of the land, she says. Atlanta-based Arcapita is the project’s majority equity partner. Locally based Golub & Co. is the project manager, and its principals are also investors. The architect is Lucien Lagrange, also based here.

“Both the hotel and residential components are now 68% pre-sold,” Malone says. The hotel is expected to open in October 2008 and the first residences will be delivered in late 2008.

The hotel portion occupies floors seven through 26. Units are fully furnished and average 800 sf. Selling prices for a studio begin at $480,000 sf and range between $640,000 and $950,000 for one-bedroom suites. Hotel condos are sold fee simple and deeded with no monthly assessment.

“Owners can join a rental program under which they can opt to ensure use of their unit for 14 nights, 30 nights or 90 nights a year and obtain a respective 42%, 36% or 18% of the revenue their unit produces through rentals. Elysian manages the property and residents and hotel guests share all amenities.

The residential condos, either whole-floor or two to a floor, occupy the top 34 stories and range from 3,400 sf to 12,000 sf. Prices begin at $2.5 million and reach to $6.8 million for the penthouses. “Just one of the seven penthouses is unsold,” Malone says.

The construction loan from Hypo is at an undisclosed floating rate for three years with a one-year extension. The New York City-based lender is a subsidiary of Hypo Real Estate Bank International, which has headquarters in New York and Munich. “Given that [Elysian] is already 67% sold, it clearly will be a very successful project,” says Evan P. Denner, Hypo’s deputy CEO, in a statement.

The developer has formed an operating subsidiary, Elysian Hotels and Resorts. It sees the Chicago property as the first of an Elysian brand of hotel/residential projects. “We’re looking at gateway US cities, such as San Francisco, Los Angeles and Washington DC, and some resort locations,” Malone says. She expects to announce another location within six to nine months.

[jcchii]

good

[dubai 1]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3875/theelysian3qf.jpg


The Elysian
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/datax/554/6324the_elysian.jpg
(http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=188061)

this is a very nice building, who's the architect ?

[jcchii]

does anyone know whether STR has a model with scottish rite and elysian both?
I'd be curious to see what they might look like together

[jamesinclair]

I believe this is my favorite building under construction. Id love one of these in Boston

[VivaLFuego]

^ dubai 1

It's by Lucien Lagrange....it's very similiar to his Park Tower, which is just a few blocks away, though I think the style has been refined somewhat for Elysian.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=116666

We're curious to see the finished product, since it obviously won't have that aged look just yet right after it's completed.

[headcase]

I believe this is my favorite building under construction. Id love one of these in Boston

Take it! Please!

[Nowhereman1280]

Oh come on its not that bad, it definately isn't ugly, maybe only average, but not hideous.

[neverdone]

This building is very ugly, the color choices, the roof, the shape. I might even go as far as to say it is worse than the very bland buildings that have sprouted in chicago in the past few years.

[Chicago3rd]

Great looking sharp building.

[the urban politician]

This building is very ugly, the color choices, the roof, the shape. I might even go as far as to say it is worse than the very bland buildings that have sprouted in chicago in the past few years.

^ So are you saying you don't like it? ;)

[sentinel]

This building is very ugly, the color choices, the roof, the shape. I might even go as far as to say it is worse than the very bland buildings that have sprouted in chicago in the past few years.

Apparently not to the many people who are shelling out millions to buy units in the building. It's supposed to have an old-world, french beaux-arts look to it, and that's what those prospective buyers are buying into: something more traditional, "classy" and safe (in terms of style).

[Nowhereman1280]

This building is very ugly, the color choices, the roof, the shape. I might even go as far as to say it is worse than the very bland buildings that have sprouted in chicago in the past few years.

I don't know how you can call tan faux (I assume its not real) brick with black and what appear to be copper details ugly color choices, I mean whats wrong with earth tones? I don't think you can call the design bland at all, I mean thats one detailed building, many more small architectual features than any modernist glass block or even prettier modern designs like the Trump tower. I like this design though I'm not a super excited about it and I certainly don't think it deserves all the negative feedback that its been getting.

[kalmia]

will the roof be copper?

[Nowhereman1280]

No I doubt it will actually be copper, people are too cheep these days, but it appears to be some sort of aged copper looking substance in several of the drawings. Those are just renderings of course and you can't draw conclusions like that from renderings, does anybody have any solid info on materials for this thing? Sorry if what I said was misleading before...

[honte]

The roof on Park Tower was drawn that way, and it indeed was copper. But I doubt that the patina will ever reach that rich color. (People claim this is due to pollutants in the air - I suspect it's really something to do with the grade of copper we use today.)

However, I may be proven wrong - the new domes on the Medinah Temple are changing over surprisingly well for new copper. Still, Park Tower does not have any green patina as far as I can see - it turned a dull brown very quickly.

[jamesinclair]

Take it! Please!

By all means, send it over.

It reminds me of a better (and bigger) version of an apartment I saw in Brasil

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/jamesinclair/IMG_4967.jpg

[the urban politician]

^ You could have chosen any precast concrete building, posted its picture, and made the same remark.

There are a million buildings Elysian resembles more than that one above

[STR]

does anyone know whether STR has a model with scottish rite and elysian both?
I'd be curious to see what they might look like together

You ask everyone but the person who made the model?

Try PM's, best way to reach me.

[jamesinclair]

^ You could have chosen any precast concrete building, posted its picture, and made the same remark.

There are a million buildings Elysian resembles more than that one above

Are you looking at the right building in the picture?

[Kngkyle]

Any updates? Almost a month with no updates.

[L.u.v.]

I couldn't help but notice the similarity this building has with one of the skyscrapers in my city:

Elysian:
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3B9685%3A%7Ffp336%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D32334%3A6495%3B4%3Cnu0mrj

Mid-Continent Tower: (The one on the right)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v204/STF2010/Downtown%20Tulsa/DowntownTulsa-010-1.jpg

However, the difference is that one of these is much older, and it isn't the one Chicago. I don't have a problem with these kind of buildings in skylines, in fact, I can't imagine not having the Mid-Continent Tower in my skyline. But it annoys me when we live in 2006 and people still propose buildings that would have been at home in 1956. They were great back in the day, but it's really time to move on.

On the plus side, it's got great height, but I can't help but feel that it's a wasted opportunity to have built something as modern and striking as the Trump tower is, if not nearly as tall. That's just my opinion anyway... Apparantly, people with millions of $$$ don't mind.

[aaron38]

I think there's enough room for all styles in Chicago's skyline.
680 N. Rush will be ultra modern and just a few blocks away. And who's to say that Elysian won't have glassy new neighbors in the future?
Sure it's a 'safe' design, but I think it looks fine, and pairs well with 900 N Michigan.

[denizen467]

I couldn't help but notice the similarity this building has with one of the skyscrapers in my city:

Mid-Continent Tower: (The one on the right)

Hi. Welcome to the forums. Just so you know, it would help if you followed the Unwritten Code of Conduct in these forums and identify exactly what it is that "my city" refers to, rather than being a tease. People here are information-hungry, especially when a photograph has been posted, and not everybody bothers to right-click on images, and even fewer have ever been to Oklahoma, much less Tulsa.

[L.u.v.]

Hi. Welcome to the forums. Just so you know, it would help if you followed the Unwritten Code of Conduct in these forums and identify exactly what it is that "my city" refers to, rather than being a tease. People here are information-hungry, especially when a photograph has been posted, and not everybody bothers to right-click on images, and even fewer have ever been to Oklahoma, much less Tulsa.
Sorry. I was under the (arrogant) mistaken impression that people on these forums were already familiar with Tulsa. Thanks for the welcome though.

[jcchii]

sorry STR. you know I'm a huge fan

[SolarWind]

October 20, 2006

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1750/gfjn4.jpg

^ Looks like the caisson work is done.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7290/pa200109gx4.jpg

^ Starting to drive sheet piles at the site.

[forumly_chgoman]

[QUOTE=L.u.v.]Sorry. I was under the (arrogant) mistaken impression that people on these forums were already familiar with Tulsa. Thanks for the welcome though.[/Q:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

:)

[honte]

October 20, 2006
^ Looks like the caisson work is done.


Can someone a little more familiar with high-rise construction help me out? I am confused how they can get the caissons done so fast on this project or 300 N. LaSalle, but they took forever on Waterview. Obviously Waterview is a much larger building, on a much smaller lot, but the difference seems really noteworthy.

Also, I don't think there are any old caissons here to reuse, so that can't be it either.

[BVictor1]

Can someone a little more familiar with high-rise construction help me out? I am confused how they can get the caissons done so fast on this project or 300 N. LaSalle, but they took forever on Waterview. Obviously Waterview is a much larger building, on a much smaller lot, but the difference seems really noteworthy.

Also, I don't think there are any old caissons here to reuse, so that can't be it either.

Well yes, the site for Waterview was much smaller, and they could only fit 1 caisson crane and 1 servoce crane on the site, and remember that about half of the caissons went down to bedrock. For the Elysian, the caissons only went down to clay and they could for more than one drilling crane on site.

[colemonkee]

Great to see this one moving. Is there anything planned for the surface lot across the street (visible at the top of SolarWind's first pic)?

[Pandemonious]

Wasnt some sort of twin tower deal planned there? The Scottish Rite development.

[no-la-usa]

Yes it is the Scottish Rite development, but I think one of the tower has been NIMBYed.

[bnk]

No I doubt it will actually be copper, people are too cheep these days, but it appears to be some sort of aged copper looking substance in several of the drawings. Those are just renderings of course and you can't draw conclusions like that from renderings, does anybody have any solid info on materials for this thing? Sorry if what I said was misleading before...


I sure hope so.

[bnk]

Charlie Trotter to Create Restaurants for Elysian Hotel and Private Residences
Wednesday November 29, 12:44 pm ET


CHICAGO, Nov. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Five-star chef Charlie Trotter will bring his superlative-culinary experience to the Elysian Hotel and Private Residences, flagship of a new ultra-luxury brand, under construction at 11 East Walton Street and scheduled to open in 2008. The venture marks Trotter's first collaboration in the U.S. and the latest success for the Gold Coast development.



"We talked with some of the nation's foremost chefs about creating a restaurant truly attuned to the quality and character of the Elysian. In Charlie, we found the ideal partner, whose standards of excellence equal our own," said David Pisor, founding partner and chief executive officer of the property's developer, Elysian Worldwide. "Widely regarded as one of America's finest chefs, Charlie is an icon and true innovator in the worlds of food and service. We couldn't be more thrilled about our association with him."

Responsible for all food and beverage operations at the Elysian, Trotter will create an exclusive restaurant open for dinner only -- his first new fine dining restaurant in Chicago since 1987 -- featuring the inspired and consistently flawless cuisine that is his trademark. Additionally, he will operate a second dining room, open all day, and oversee cuisine for in-suite dining, banquets and catering.

"Over the past two decades, I have had countless offers to partner with hoteliers all across America, but this is the first time I have felt a real meeting of minds," Trotter added. "David is a true visionary, and I look forward to working with him and his team to deliver a guest experience unlike any other."

Since opening in 1987, Charlie Trotter's eponymous restaurant in Chicago's Lincoln Park neighborhood has won international recognition including induction into the esteemed Relais & Chateaux and membership in Traditions & Qualite. One of only two Chicago restaurants to receive five stars from the Mobil Travel Guide, Charlie Trotter's has won ten James Beard Foundation awards and accolades as America's Best Restaurant from Wine Spectator magazine. In 2004 Trotter opened "C," a fine-dining seafood restaurant at the newly renovated One&Only Palmilla resort in Los Cabos, Mexico. Trotter also oversees all private dining at One&Only Palmilla, and operates their poolside casual restaurant, "Breeze."

Chef Trotter joins an all-star team behind the Elysian's success. International real estate developer Golub & Company is the project manager, and its principals are investors in the project. Lucien Lagrange, synonymous with the city's premier luxury residential towers and another local icon, designed the core and shell of the 60-story tower. Chicago-based Simeone Deary Design Group created the interiors for all public spaces and the 188 hotel suites. Above the hotel, 51 expansive, private residences from 3,400 to 12,000 square feet, provide stunning views of the city and the lake. Two years before the Elysian's scheduled completion, sales have reached 70 percent.

Visits to the Elysian's sales salon, 605 N. Michigan Ave., are by appointment. For more information, phone 312-664-9500 or visit

http://www.elysianhotels.com .

Elysian Worldwide is a Chicago-based real estate development firm founded in 2003 to develop ultra-luxury landmark hotels and residential properties in gateway cities and destination resorts throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia. The firm's leadership includes David Pisor, general partner and CEO, as well as principals Mary Beth Malone, Jeffrey Pavlik and Mario Tricoci.







Chicago Chef Charlie Trotter to open new restaurant

By ASHLEY M. HEHER
AP Business Writer
Published November 29, 2006, 11:55 AM CST


CHICAGO -- Charlie Trotter, an iconic chef whose name is synonymous with Chicago's gourmet cuisine, wants to dish out a second helping of his five-star meals.

Trotter, a Chicago native whose self-titled restaurant draws gourmands and members of the expense-account set, announced Wednesday he plans to open a second Chicago eatery in a new 60-story luxury hotel and condominium project.

"We're excited to deliver not just a stamped-out, high-end experience, but something that is really personal and something that has a genuineness about it," Trotter said in an interview Tuesday with The Associated Press. "I can't wait."

Trotter, the author of a dozen books and host a PBS cooking show, has been a fixture in Chicago's culinary world for nearly two decades. While his dishes are known for their use of vegetables, Asian influences and French techniques, Trotter is infamous for his food-as-art presentation and serious philosophy on cuisine. (An introduction to one book quotes Goethe and Dostoyevsky.)

He's also a reputed perfectionist with a demanding kitchen presence. The New York Times once described Trotter as "a tyrant" and Chicago Magazine listed him as the second-meanest person in the city.

The as-yet-unnamed restaurant -- a fine-dining, dinner-only venue that will have a more casual dining area for breakfast, lunch and dinner -- is scheduled to open in October 2008 at The Elysian Hotel on the Gold Coast.

The chef's new restaurant marks Trotter's first Chicago dining expansion since he launched his signature restaurant in 1987.

Trotter opened a gourmet takeout shop in Chicago's Lincoln Park in 2000 and a seafood-focused restaurant in Los Cabos, Mexico in 2004. Trotter and a real estate developer scrapped plans to start a restaurant in the New York City's Time Warner Center last year after the budget grew to nearly $12 million.

"Charlie's a lot more than a chef," said David Pisor, CEO of Elysian Worldwide. "He understands the experience of dining and how to make it more than just food."

Bespectacled, boyish and immaculately dressed, the 47-year-old hunches forward when he speaks about his latest venture. The menu has yet to be announced, but Trotter said it will draw "ideology" from his current restaurant.

"I'm elated with the idea of taking on a challenge to do something here in my own back yard, but do it differently and do it in a way where it really is new and it's exciting, but it still borrows the great elements of what all great experiences," he said.

Trotter also will be responsible for room service and banquet fare at the $260 million Gold Coast hotel.

"There have been no shortage of opportunities around America and around the world, and in my own back yard, but this is the one," Trotter said. "I've seen my colleagues over the years take on too many things. And that's fine, but you want to make sure that you have the energy and the wherewithal to do anything you do the absolute right way and that's why we feel so strongly about this."

The Elysian will have 188 rooms and 51 condominiums with units listing from $480,000 to $6 million.

------

On the Net:

www.charlietrotters.com

www.elysianhotels.com

[trvlr70]

^^^^^
That's quite impressive. You could not have asked for a better chef to headline a new hotel's signiature restaurant. It looks like The Elysian is truly aspiring to 5-star greatness. Of course, this announcement cannot possibly hurt condo sales.

[spyguy]

A good boost for this project no doubt.

[budman]

I was friends with Dave Pisor about 10 years ago when he bought his first three-flat and was sales director for a converted wharehouse in Bucktown. He has really come a long way. Good for him. The addition of Trotter has brought even more credibility to an already awesome project.

[gmi3804]

I hope Chef's success here is better than that at the Time Warner center in NYC.

This is certainly an impressive-looking project which deserves a great foodservice infrastructure.

[honte]

^ What went wrong there? Not hands-on enough?

[gmi3804]

^ What went wrong there? Not hands-on enough?

I'm not sure, but there are some awfully big names in that building who aren't there full time either.

Trotter's venue at MGM Grand in Las Vegas failed too, but at least that one actually opened. The official reason was that hotel management didn't want gamblers spending so much time on a long dinner. I'm not sure I buy that argument, as recent big names have proven in that town.

Still, I'm cautiously optimistic about his Elysian gig.

[Chicago Shawn]

Photos from 12/15...

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/507652.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/507653.jpg
Rebar mat assembeled and to be placed within the slurry wall.

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/12/507654.jpg
Slurry wall along State Street.

[VivaLFuego]

So they haven't started excavating yet....and they've probably got about 50-60 ft down to go. Guess it won't be rising out of the ground for a while. Is the slurry wall because of the subway line next door?

[Nowhereman1280]

So they haven't started excavating yet....and they've probably got about 50-60 ft down to go. Guess it won't be rising out of the ground for a while. Is the slurry wall because of the subway line next door?

Who said that? I don't think either of those pictures show inside the slurry wall, I would imagine if they are working on assembling the foundation mat, that they would at least be close to putting it in the bottom of the hole...

Then again I haven't been out to that site in a while so I wouldn't know for sure. What's going on there Shawn? Is there a hole that you don't have a pic of or are they just assembling the mat wayyyy ahead of time?

[BVictor1]

Who said that? I don't think either of those pictures show inside the slurry wall, I would imagine if they are working on assembling the foundation mat, that they would at least be close to putting it in the bottom of the hole...

Then again I haven't been out to that site in a while so I wouldn't know for sure. What's going on there Shawn? Is there a hole that you don't have a pic of or are they just assembling the mat wayyyy ahead of time?


The last picture is of the top of the slurry wall. The reason for the slurry wall, is because this project has underground parking, just like Park View. The slurry wall is only for the western half of the property, it will be under the courtway.

[VivaLFuego]

Who said that? I don't think either of those pictures show inside the slurry wall, I would imagine if they are working on assembling the foundation mat, that they would at least be close to putting it in the bottom of the hole...

Then again I haven't been out to that site in a while so I wouldn't know for sure. What's going on there Shawn? Is there a hole that you don't have a pic of or are they just assembling the mat wayyyy ahead of time?

Somewhere I thought I remember this thing having 4 underground levels, which suggests they're excavating at least 50 feet down before pouring the mat. I guess they only recently finished drilling caissons?

[Nowhereman1280]

Yeah I know this thing will have Underground levels and all, but why are they assembling that mat already if they haven't dug the hole yet? I guess that's really what I am asking...

[Jaroslaw]

The steel net is not a mat; it will form part of the retaining wall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slurry_wall

http://www.slurrywall.com/slurry-walls-technology/default.asp#WHAT-ARE-SLURRY-WALLS

http://www.geoforum.com/knowledge/texts/broms/images/303.gif

[Nowhereman1280]

Oh I see, I thought someone said it was the for the foundation, I get it now...

Thanks...

[BVictor1]

Oh I see, I thought someone said it was the for the foundation, I get it now...

Thanks...

Well, the slurry wall is apart of the foundation foundation technically. It's a bathtub basiclly, like what the World Trade Center site has around it to keep the Hudson out...

[jamesinclair]

Why are there no new pictures of my favorite building?

[SolarWind]

January 17, 2007

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9482/dsc0273copyzj3.jpg http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1777/dsc0279copyya2.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1781/dsc0275copyfv9.jpg

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/8937/dsc0274copydw6.jpg

[BorisMolotov]

Thats it? How long have they been U/C?

[VivaLFuego]

Yikes, this one is moving rather slow, I figured they'd be done with the foundation and working on the excavation by now....they still have about 40-50ft to dig down...

[SolarWind]

Yikes, this one is moving rather slow, I figured they'd be done with the foundation and working on the excavation by now....they still have about 40-50ft to dig down...
Yeah, everything about this building seems to go slow. Years from now, a person turns to another and mutters, "damn these elevators take forever". :)

[jamesinclair]

Thanks for the pictures, although I see why you hadnt updated before....not much to see. Hopefully they pick up the pace soon.

[AnotherPunter]

You'd think they might have looked into the connotations of the name a little more closely on this one. The gold coast is a bit staid, but not sure I'd want to live in a building named after the final resting place of heros:

From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium):

In Greek mythology, Elysium (Greek: λύσια πεδία) was a section of the Underworld (the spelling Elysium is a Latinization of the Greek word Elysion). Elysium is an obscure and mysterious name that evolved from a designation of a place or person struck by lightning, enelysion, enelysios. Alternately, scholars have also suggested that Greek Elysion may instead derive from the Egyptian term ialu (older iaru), meaning "reeds," with specific reference to the "Reed fields" (Egyptian: sekhet iaru / ialu), a paradisiacal land of plenty where the dead hoped to spend eternity. Biblical scholars have suggested that Elysion may derive from Elisha, who was, according to Genesis, a son of Yawan (Iouan, forefather of the Ionians) and one of the ancestors of the Greeks. Elisha may have been worshipped as a god by his earliest descendents.

The Elysian fields, or sometimes Elysian plains, were the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous. Two Homeric passages in particular established for Greeks the nature of the Afterlife: the dreamed apparition of the dead Patroclus in the Iliad and the more daring boundary-breaking visit in Book 11 of the Odyssey. Greek traditions concerning funerary ritual were reticent, but the Homeric examples encouraged other heroic visits, in the myth cycles centered around Theseus and Heracles.

In White Wolf, Inc's Vampire: the Masquerade and Vampire: the Requiem role playing games, Elysium is the name of a fictional place (usually a mansion, museum, or similar building with a function that is usually formal) wherein the Prince (vampire leader of the city) has declared a sanctuary. Elysium is used for formal meetings, socialization, celebration, court, and to seek asylum. The tradition of Elysium forbids violence within its confines, meaning even a vampire wanted dead can seek relief from their persecution there. The plural form of Elysium is Elysia, and larger cities have been known to have several Elysia.

In Saint Seiya, the Elysium Fields are the stage of the last battle against the God Hades.

The Vision of Aeneas in the Elysian Fields
http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Sebastiano-Conca/The-Vision-of-Aeneas-in-the-Elysian-Fields-Giclee-Print-C11728302.jpeg


Creepy.

[Pandemonious]

^OK, the "Elysian Fields," were a paradise-like place that heroes were supposed to go in mythology, an afterlife if you will. However, the word "elysian" by itself, as it is used here, means surpassing excellence, paradise, a state of happiness, etc.. all of which are words that fit pretty well with a ritzy hotel and condo tower I think.

[AnotherPunter]

^OK, the "Elysian Fields," were a paradise-like place that heroes were supposed to go in mythology, an afterlife if you will. However, the word "elysian" by itself, as it is used here, means surpassing excellence, paradise, a state of happiness, etc.. all of which are words that fit pretty well with a ritzy hotel and condo tower I think.

this from a being called "pandemonious". again, i quote wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pand%C3%A6monium_%28Paradise_Lost%29):

"Pandæmonium" (American English "Pandemonium") is stemmed from Greek ("παν" meaning "all" or "every" + δαιμόνιον meaning "little spirit" or "little angel" or as Christians interpreted it, "little daemon," and later, "demon." The word roughly translates to All Demons), it is the name invented by John Milton for the capital of Hell, "the High Capital, of Satan and his Peers", built by the fallen angels at the suggestion of Mammon at the end of Book I, Paradise Lost (1667). A comparison in meaning can be made with "pantheon" which refers to all of the gods. Book II begins with the debate among the demons in the council-chamber of Pandemonium.

http://www.boundlessbooks.com/paradise/p8.gif

[spyguy]

I doubt they were stupid enough not to understand the Elysium before marketing this tower for several years as "Paradise." You must remember that Elysian often has a very positive meaning.

And there already is the Elysees Condos building nearby and that doesn't seem to have any problems.

[Citizen]

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002EXH40.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ

Also a song on MEGADETH's album Youthanasia. Yeah! :banger:

[kalmia]

I suppose it's better than building on a former cemetery that was dug up for developement, like part of the north shore is.

Also, there is an area on the southside near the lakeshore that was a pow concentration camp in the 1860s where over 6000 people died from disease, starvation, execution etc. They are buried in a mass grave farther south near 71st st and Cottage Grove. Much of the former pow camp has condos on it. I think there is a school on part of it. I don't think many people know about what the site was used for.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Douglas_%28Chicago%29

[Chicago Shawn]

Nothing much happening on the site...
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514375.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514379.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514383.jpg
On a side note, I am really going to miss that little frame house, which is to be demolished soon for 10 East Delaware.

[budman]

Nothing much happening on the site...
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514375.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514379.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514383.jpg
On a side note, I am really going to miss that little frame house, which is to be demolished soon for 10 East Delaware.

^ I am going to miss that frame house too. Did anyone live there, or was it all commercial (I am assuming the latter). Also, I read that Trotter is going to be selling some food on some United Airlines flights. I bring this up here since he has agreed with the Elysian to open a restaurant there. Airline food at the Elysian doesnt sound too tasty.

[trvlr70]

Nothing much happening on the site...
https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514375.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514379.jpg

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514383.jpg
On a side note, I am really going to miss that little frame house, which is to be demolished soon for 10 East Delaware.

These are great photos. 30 W Oak looks amazing and the 900 N Michigan parking garage quite depressing.

This tower is still just so damn quiet.

[VivaLFuego]

^ Shawn,
So it's confirmed that shack is a goner? That's a shame, wasn't it built around 1871 or 1872, immediately post-fire?

[Rocket1]

^ Shawn,
So it's confirmed that shack is a goner? That's a shame, wasn't it built around 1871 or 1872, immediately post-fire?

That white frame house looks a bit nicer than a "shack" -- I'd live in it. :)

[jcchii]

I'm sure most people would think of the champs elysees in paris

[the urban politician]

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514379.jpg

^ Thanks for the pics. Now if only we can get somebody to demolish that hideous parking garage

[Tom Servo]

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514379.jpg

^ Thanks for the pics. Now if only we can get somebody to demolish that hideous parking garage

Yeah, I was just thinking... why doesn't Barney's tear this down.

[kalmia]

...


https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514383.jpg
On a side note, I am really going to miss that little frame house, which is to be demolished soon for 10 East Delaware.

So are these going to be back to back?

[neverdone]

What is the correct pronunciation of this building's name?

[Alliance]

ee-LEE-zee-ahn

[Chicago Shawn]

^ Shawn,
So it's confirmed that shack is a goner? That's a shame, wasn't it built around 1871 or 1872, immediately post-fire?

Yes and yes. The whole section of the block to be razed has been 100% vacated.

[phillyskyline]

Nice location for a slender 700 footer but I'm not crazy about the design. Im really impressed w/ that shorter building to the left w/ the sleek glass.

[Chicago Shawn]

Nice location for a slender 700 footer but I'm not crazy about the design. Im really impressed w/ that shorter building to the left w/ the sleek glass.

Yeah, that one is 30 West Oak, just finishing up construction and it turned out great. The NIMBYs hate it, calling it "too glassy". They like retro-trash pomo better.

[honte]

Oh Christ. They should be complaining about all of that concrete they're looking at, not the glass. I presume this is the "pool people" again. They can't complain about the concrete because they live in a concrete building too- or maybe they're jealous of the floor-to-celing views?

Anyway, I hope that they cannot influence more future developments to turn PoMo like this Elysian project. Just think of how great this building could have been...

[aaron38]

It looks like excavation is begining. They had dug a hole and were driving sheet piling.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Elysian1.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Elysian.jpg

[BorisMolotov]

about damn time!

[VivaLFuego]

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2007/01/514379.jpg

^ Thanks for the pics. Now if only we can get somebody to demolish that hideous parking garage

That's part of 900 N. Michigan, so I bet they'd looooove having their parking torn down! At least it's got street-level retail... but it is awfully oppressive, it's sheer size...

[SolarWind]

March 8, 2007

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http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1582/dsc0115copywk2.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5884/dsc0098copyej2.jpg

[BorisMolotov]

Progress, I guess...

[HowardL]

Noticed from the L tonight, that the crane is being assembled this evening. (26.March)

[BorisMolotov]

Has anything been built yet, or should we wait a few more years...

[Nowhereman1280]

Has anything been built yet, or should we wait a few more years...

Actually yes, I walked by the other day and there is some part of the foundation down there. Its probably the mat of the core. But the point is they have started pouring something...

[SolarWind]

April 13, 2007

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1530/dsc0082copype0.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9525/dsc0084copyiu1.jpg

[SolarWind]

May 1, 2007

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5166/dsc0075copyzs6.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7469/dsc0077copyzc1.jpg

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8393/dsc0073copyzs7.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/4382/dsc0087copyfg6.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2592/dsc0071copyvv0.jpg

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8343/dsc0085copyli4.jpg