[Steely Dan]

here's another 700 footer for the windy city.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3875/theelysian3qf.jpg


The Elysian
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/images_2/500/6324the_elysian.jpg
(http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=188061)

this tower is proposed to stand 700'-5" with 60 floors (thanks to victor, our chicago super-slueth). currently, the site has been cleared of its existing buildings and some amount of site work has taken place. according to victor's latest info, caisson drilling should begin sometime in early march.

[Marvel 33]

It might not be the most original, unique and beautiful design of all the new projects in Chicago but I like the fact that is pretty slender, tall and it's in a great location!

[Jularc]

WOW... If it looks like that it will seem that it has always been there! It will have a defenetly beautiful style if is done the right way. Tall as well! Great job Chicago! :tup:

[VivaLFuego]

What materials will be used on the facade?

Is the crown copper that they will let oxidize?

If it turns out like the renderings, this will be truly lovely, and have some pretty nice views looking west, which will be basically unobstructed.

[dvidler]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the 10 E. Delaware proposed project is on the block as the Elysian.

[williamphilapa]

Geez, yet another 700+ footer for Chicago. Man what a time for Chicago! Lucky bastards! :yes:

[BVictor1]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the 10 E. Delaware proposed project is on the block as the Elysian.

Correct. Remember there was originally going to be a second phase, well that parcel was sold, and 10 E. Deleware is what's going to be built on that land.


What materials will be used on the facade?

The base I believe will be limestone, and the rest will be pre-cast. Think of this tower as the little sister to park tower.

[Marvel 33]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the 10 E. Delaware proposed project is on the block as the Elysian.

The Elysian is at the corner of Rush and Walton and 10 E. Delaware is right behind on Delaware and State in the same block.

[wanderer34]

:previous: Looks very classy and distinguished, but Chicago should be more concerned about developing the Near South Side, starting with a 1000+ foot office building. How is the One Museum Park coming along???

[Steely Dan]

How is the One Museum Park coming along???

one museum park discussion should be taken to the following thread:

CHICAGO: One Museum Park – 720’/62 floors – U/C (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?threadid=59102)

[Chi_Coruscant]

Thank you, SteelyDan. For sure, the Elysian thread overwhelms other forummers outside Chicago.

[spyguy]

Ah, my favorite proposal. Such a beauty :)

[LA21st]

:previous: Looks very classy and distinguished, but Chicago should be more concerned about developing the Near South Side, starting with a 1000+ foot office building. How is the One Museum Park coming along???

Not really. You would be suprised how many sites are suited for silimar projects like this one in River North, Streeterville, and Gold Coast.

[Fabb]

Typical style of Lucien Lagrange. Impossible no to think of Park Tower that he also designed.

[HK Chicago]

^ that's what's great about it (no secret I have a soft spot for the LL style).

The good news is this looks like the next step up after Park Tower. The Pinnacle, even with it's great floorplates and windows, didn't build on what Park Tower had established.

[Fabb]

The rendedering is certainly not totally reliable, but the Elysian seems to have a texture that makes it look weathered.
It's probably intentional.

[Stephenapolis]

I really enjoy the look of this tower. It does look weathered. Hopefully it will resemble that when completed.

[trvlr70]

Honestly, the best part of the design is the Beaux-arts facade, the spires, and the European courtyard. When completed, this building is going to look very classy on the Gold Coast.

[detroitismylove]

This is a gorgeous design. Its so graceful and elegant. A real gem, almost Parisian looking.

[Marvel 33]

When I first saw the design of the Elysian I thought it would be the perfect design for a building facing Grant Park in Chicago or in Central Park in New York City.
I wasn't sure how it would look in the Chicago Gold Coast but it's growing on me.

[VivaLFuego]

The rendedering is certainly not totally reliable, but the Elysian seems to have a texture that makes it look weathered.
It's probably intentional.
Yes, I've wondered if it's going to look quite bland as it goes up, or if the material for the prefab facade will have this texture. After all, this weathered stone texture is what makes the rendering so appealing...otherwise, its just a differently colored, shorter Park Tower.

[Steely Dan]

^ my guess is that it will look every bit as bland as the others. i think this "aged" rendering that we've all been looking at for a while now has fooled a lot of people into believing that this project is going to be something that it is not.

[BVictor1]

Speaking of renderings. I got a new highresolution rendering yesterday. Now I have the original of what they sent me, and one that was edited just a little in photoshop for the contrast. I will post them both, then you guys choose which you prefer. The one you pick is the one I will upload to Emporis.

This is the original.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3B9685%3A%7Ffp336%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D32334%3A6495%3B4%3Cnu0mrj

This is the manipulated one.
http://images.snapfish.com/345%3B9685%3A%7Ffp338%3Enu%3D3238%3E868%3E492%3EWSNRCG%3D32334%3A6495%3B55nu0mrj

[Steely Dan]

^ the bottom one with the bluer sky defintiely makes the building look better.

[SevenSevenThree]

^ Ditto. It shows more detail.

[Adam186]

^same here, nice edit work vic.

[the urban politician]

Bottom one wins by a landslide

[BVictor1]

Well everyone asked for the 2nd image so here it is.

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/transfer/6/2006/02/433138.jpg

[spyguy]

If it really is gray, I don't think the tower will look as good as the green before. The gray roof will especially look weird on the ground level with courtyard - it looked more European with green.

[StevenW]

what's the total sq. footage of this new awesome tower anyway? :)

[Steely Dan]

looks good victor. the image is now up on page 1 of the boom rundown thread.

[VivaLFuego]

Any progress on the site? Havent been by in a few weeks.

[Marvel 33]

^ I drove by on Friday and there was some activity going on but I didn't pay attention. My girlfriend lives right down the street so I'll take a look tomorrow morning when I leave for work, from her condo.

[Vicelord John]

looks too much like the park hyatt

[Marvel 33]

^ Park Hyatt is a lot nicer!

[spyguy]

Joking right? :rolleyes:

[Marvel 33]

^ :dancing:

[Steely Dan]

so, with all of yesterday's craziness behind us, i guess it's about time that we start getting impatient with this one, right? ;)

[VivaLFuego]

progress on this always seemed tied to the Clare, so now that thats U/C...

[spyguy]

A few days will pass and BAM!

[Rivernorth]

this project seems to have been in the planned/approved stage of development forever... i wanna see cranes, damnit! :P

[Wild Onion Mike]

so, with all of yesterday's craziness behind us, i guess it's about time that we start getting impatient with this one, right? ;)

We have been spoiled by all the exciting news lately, but what is happening with this one?

[simms3_redux]

I really like the design of this building and can't wait for it to start? Where is this going to be ( I am familiar with the windy city so a street address is all I need).

[spyguy]

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/1513/elysianlocationmap8vb.gif

[zerokarma]

any other pictures/renderings of it?

[soleri]

This design is the kind that makes me despair for Chicago. The great architectural heritage here ought to deliver less of these faux high-rise chateaux and something more striking and modernist. The River North area is awash in these insipid towers. I can't help but wonder about the consciousness of people who like this kind of architecture.

[Fabb]

This design is the kind that makes me despair for Chicago. The great architectural heritage here ought to deliver less of these faux high-rise chateaux and something more striking and modernist. The River North area is awash in these insipid towers. I can't help but wonder about the consciousness of people who like this kind of architecture.

Right.
This one is not the worst though.

[Steely Dan]

^^ that's one of the big problems, these faux-historic throw-back towers win huge points with the old fuddy-duddy empty-nester crowd, who happen to be the main market demographic for many of these new residential super towers in chicago. they see a proposed rendering of something "old-timey" and they say "oh look dear, this one seems real nice and classy". it makes anyone with even an inkling of chicago's forward-looking architectural legacy want to retch.

[Wild Onion Mike]

I'm not aware of his official stance on this tower, but I can only imagine Blair Kamin pulling his hair out in frustration when he sees another one of these LaGrange retros.

Personally, I find this tower to be attractive. Yet, it is amazing when you realize how many towers LaGrange has put up north of the river. Pretty soon he won't need to send a resume. He'll just send a photo of the north half of Chicago's skyline. Maybe he wants that area to be renamed LaGrange in his honor, but someone should alert him to the fact that we already have one of those in the suburbs.

Elysian is not bad. His more modern designs capture my attention more though.

[spyguy]

Elysian is a beautiful tower, from top to bottom and the interiors should be classy too. There's nothing wrong with this tower and those against it should focus their energy on fighting the crap that has invaded Chicago from 2000 to present.

[rds989]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with my "consciousness" for liking this tower (or Park Tower, or the one on the corner of Pearson & Lakeshore). This is a far cry from cr*pola like Millenium Centre and The Caravel.

Just like the difference between cruddy modernism and the good stuff. Do I prefer more forward looking designs? On balance, yes I do. But even more, I prefer to have a variety of different styles of well-executed buildings. So LaGrange's work mixes in well and adds a lot of value to the cityscape.

[Wild Onion Mike]

This is a far cry from cr*pola like Millenium Centre and The Caravel.


Completely agree.

[VivaLFuego]

Aw, I like Millenium Centre. It's unapologetically brutal.

[VivaLFuego]

This design is the kind that makes me despair for Chicago. The great architectural heritage here ought to deliver less of these faux high-rise chateaux and something more striking and modernist. The River North area is awash in these insipid towers. I can't help but wonder about the consciousness of people who like this kind of architecture.
I think that's overly harsh...not every tower will be groundbreaking, no does everyone want to live in a big piece of glass. Park Tower is not unattractive, and this will hearken to it.

[HK Chicago]

The Elysian is a fine tower (as is Park Tower) because they aren't just dead throwbacks - there's some real present day residential design put into these towers.

They are much different then the pomo-fuck-deco of Magellan or the personalityless Fifield work. Good architecture can be done with any materials.

Also, now is the least of times to despair for Chicago, we're on an amazing high.

[jcchii]

there are more modern plans in that area, which it needs.

I guess I don't hate it, but I do hate that other brand new one right in the 600 block of N Mich

[Wild Onion Mike]

Any progress reports for this building? Are they still waiting for "The Clare" to reach a certain stage of development. What a transformation that corner will have since losing its 7-Eleven.

[STR]

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with my "consciousness" for liking this tower (or Park Tower, or the one on the corner of Pearson & Lakeshore). This is a far cry from cr*pola like Millenium Centre and The Caravel.


That and it has nothing on Grand Plaza Apartments across the street when it comes to ugly. That complex is in a class of its own. They even doubled up the ugly in case you overlooked just one tower.

In fact, I'd boost it up to fugly. Fugly squared even. Just a hair away from" hide the children from it."

Park Tower and Elysian are fine. They have that semi-retro victorian, praire (or whatever) look that is unique.

[STR]

Aw, I like Millenium Centre. It's unapologetically brutal.

That and it has nothing on Grand Plaza Apartments across the street when it comes to ugly. That complex is in a class of its own. They even doubled up the ugly in case you overlooked just one tower.

In fact, I'd boost it up to fugly.

BTW since I've never done a shot explicitly showing Ely, here you go:
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4475/tx12.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tx12.jpg)

[Tom In Chicago]

^Great perspective. . .

[Wild Onion Mike]

That and it has nothing on Grand Plaza Apartments across the street when it comes to ugly. That complex is in a class of its own. They even doubled up the ugly in case you overlooked just one tower.

In fact, I'd boost it up to fugly.
]

Grand Plaza hurts even more than it should because the initial renderings looked so darn promising. A classic case of the final product bursting the hopes promised by a rendering.

The massing around JHC really looks nice BTW. Elysian should fit in well.

[Lecom]

Looks a lot like Park Imperial (or whatever that tower is called).

[chicubs111]

OK, whats going on with this tower...what is the delay...this thing has been approved for awhile...financing has already been declared a long time ago as well...the appropriate number of units have been sold...I mean this one should have started before waterview broke ground.:shrug:

[TransitEngr]

Who knows... I seem to remember there being a shortage of caisson drill rigs.... is this true? Could the white-hot construction market just have a shortage of equipment and labor that could be delaying some projects???

Any ideas??

[Frankie]

posted by danthediscoman @ SSC

I contacted Elysian sales center yesterday and they are saying within 6-12 weeks groundbreaking will take place or as soon as all permits are cleared. They say sales are also very good but no percentage was specified. Good news as I was worried financing fell through or some other obstacles may have arisen.

[trvlr70]

I nominate this as the official "Chicago snail" as a result of how long things are taking to materialize.

Maybe it is in competition with NYC's Freedom Tower?

Step on it!:whip:

[Citizen]

Yeah, this and the Clare. They will however be nice additions to the area.

[Steely Dan]

^ let's also not forget 1000 S michigan or park 1000, as it's now being called. i believe that is the oldest still active proposal of any significant size that has not begun construction.

but yes, the elysian has been quite the snail too. i've never been terribly enhamored with it, so its constant delays have never been too bothersome for me.

[VivaLFuego]

As long as Elysian is the last of these Lagrange faux-deco-pomo residenterial towers, I think it'll be a nice addition, and will be Park Tower's little sister. Precast concrete isnt necessarily ugly.

[jcchii]

both this and the clare will do a lot to bulk up that part of the skyline, as evidenced by STR's brilliant image there ^^^^

[JTChi01]

^ Yea that was a hot image. Thanks STR. I like the Elysian and agree that not all buildings planned or constructed today have to be ultra modern like 600 N. Fairbanks to be attractive. The Elysian is much better than the monstrosities that were built in the late 90's, early 00's. And it's French Art Deco exterior will be a beauty if executed right. Chicago does need a variety of buildings that will add to its character.

[Thefigman]

Ya know, last night I was surfing the DirecTV, and I hit upon Good Times on TV Land. During the opening sequence, they show this kid riding a bike down the street, and there's the John Hancock sticking out like it's giving the middle finger to Chicago. Thirty years later, it's becoming very difficult to see the lower thirty floors from any angle but the lake.

How times have changed.

[Adam186]

^Ya, just imagine what it will look like in another 30 years.

[BVictor1]

Ya know, last night I was surfing the DirecTV, and I hit upon Good Times on TV Land. During the opening sequence, they show this kid riding a bike down the street, and there's the John Hancock sticking out like it's giving the middle finger to Chicago. Thirty years later, it's becoming very difficult to see the lower thirty floors from any angle but the lake.

How times have changed.

Well yeah, we've all been enjoying the "GOOD TIMES" when it comes to architecture and construction.

[Steely Dan]

Are permits really holding this up ?

possibly. or maybe that's just a convenient cover for the fact that they still don't have all their finacial ducks in a row to begin construction.

either way, i wouldn't be too worried. this one seems like a "when", not an "if" at this point.

[VivaLFuego]

Are permits really holding this up ? I'm starting get my waterview jitters again on this one.
I'd be annoyed if I'd put a deposit on a unit years ago and knew i wasnt gonna get it delivered at least for another couple years...

[BVictor1]

http://w16.cityofchicago.org/permit/SilverStream/Pages/pgApplicationStatusOverview.html

Application Status

11 E WALTON ST

Description: ERECT AND INSTALL PERIMETER FOUNDATION WALLS, CAISSONS, SLURRY WALLS AND EARTH RETENTION FOR A NEW 60 STORY HOTEL AND PRIVATE RESIDENT HI-RISE BUILDING WITH FOUR BASEMENTS. BUILDING TO HAVE 51 CONDOS AND 188 HOTEL ROOMS.


Total Records: 8

Discipline
Status

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
APPROVED

CIVIL ENGINEERING REVIEW
APPROVED

ELECTRICAL REVIEW
APPROVED

FIRE PREVENTION REVIEW
APPROVED

MAYOR'S OFFICE/PEOPLE W/DISAB
APPROVED

STRUCTURAL PEER REPORT REVIEW
APPROVED

STRUCTURAL REVIEW
WAIVED

ZONING REVIEW
INCOMPLETE

[colemonkee]

They need to add a ninth category. It would read something like this:

SKYSCRAPERPAGE REVIEW
"BUILD IT NOW!"

[VivaLFuego]

http://w16.cityofchicago.org/permit/SilverStream/Pages/pgApplicationStatusOverview.html

Application Status

11 E WALTON ST

Description: ERECT AND INSTALL PERIMETER FOUNDATION WALLS, CAISSONS, SLURRY WALLS AND EARTH RETENTION FOR A NEW 60 STORY HOTEL AND PRIVATE RESIDENT HI-RISE BUILDING WITH FOUR BASEMENTS. BUILDING TO HAVE 51 CONDOS AND 188 HOTEL ROOMS.


Total Records: 8

Discipline
Status

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
APPROVED

CIVIL ENGINEERING REVIEW
APPROVED

ELECTRICAL REVIEW
APPROVED

FIRE PREVENTION REVIEW
APPROVED

MAYOR'S OFFICE/PEOPLE W/DISAB
APPROVED

STRUCTURAL PEER REPORT REVIEW
APPROVED

STRUCTURAL REVIEW
WAIVED

ZONING REVIEW
INCOMPLETE
four basements? wow. that'll be right up against the subway line running alongside.

[SevenSevenThree]

Whose ass am I gonna have to kick to get this one going? Screw my deposit. I wouldve walked away by now. But patience isnt one of my more appealing virtues.

[ChicagoBruce]

I’m sick of this building, I don’t care if it just goes away.

In fact, why doesn’t everyone who reserved a unit cancel and get one in Aqua or Mandarin, so we can get those built.

[headcase]

In fact, why doesn’t everyone who reserved a unit cancel and get one in Aqua or Mandarin, so we can get those built.

There is one big thing that the Elysian had/has over Aqua or the Mandarin, location, location, location.

[jcchii]

anyone been by the site lately?

[Pandemonious]

I will go check it out tomorrow, and bring a camera. I haven't been by it in quite a while.

[BVictor1]

anyone been by the site lately?

I was by the site 2 days ago

http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C378%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3233%3E6%3C8%3E754%3E23246%3C88454%3A%3Aot1lsi

Other than the sign there was nothing noticable. They were putting up a sign for 10 E. Deleware

[UptownChiBoy]

GEEZE, at this rate Fordham's gonna be finished before this!

[VivaLFuego]

I was by the site 2 days ago

http://images1.snapfish.com/346%3C8%3C378%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3233%3E6%3C8%3E754%3E23246%3C88454%3A%3Aot1lsi

Other than the sign there was nothing noticable. They were putting up a sign for 10 E. Deleware
Has 10 E. Delaware sold enough units to warrant demo'ing what's left of that poor block?

[hoosier]

This building is very beautiful and reminds me of Park Tower. I have yet to find a Chicago high-rise that detracts from the skyline. Every new tower either under construction or proposed are unique and beautiful. Most cities have several highrises that should never have been built, such as the MetLife Building in New York, but Chicago has a knack for getting the best highrises. Kudos to you all.

[BVictor1]

Has 10 E. Delaware sold enough units to warrant demo'ing what's left of that poor block?

They haven't even began to market the units yet. They just have a website up I believe.

[the urban politician]

Just as banks require 50% sales before financing a project, the city of Chicago should have a similar rule: 50% sales of a development before issuing a demolition permit.

That sure would have saved us a lot of what was lost--the old Merc Exchange, Block 37, the list goes on and on....

[Pandemonious]

As BVictor already said, there is jack shit happening over at The Elysian site:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/Pandemonious/elysian2.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/Pandemonious/elysian1.jpg

on the plus side, you can see that they are working on installing the top floor window wall on 30 W Oak, in the background...

[SevenSevenThree]

^ I was just about to say that since nothing is happening at the site that at least 30 W Oak is looking tasty.

[Pandemonious]

For sure. It isn't that tall, but is coming out pretty damned nice, and sticks out well for its location. The residents will have nice views of that park that is just a block or two south.

[jcchii]

thanks for running by there.
hopefully these guys can get going in the warm weather here. this one will have a nice skyline impact when it finally goes

[BVictor1]

City Hall Council Chambers
Plan Commission Meeting
June 15, 2006
1PM

A proposed Amendment to Residential-Business Planned Development No. 967
submitted by Ten East Delaware, LLC and First Elysian Properties, LLC for the property generally located at 912-920 North Rush Street. The applicants propose to increase the overall floor area ratio from 18.73 to 21.68, increase the number of parking spaces in Sub-Area II from 125 to 188 and decrease the number of dwelling units in Sub-Area II from 229 to 144. (42nd Ward)

[jcchii]

hmmmm

[trvlr70]

City Hall Council Chambers
Plan Commission Meeting
June 15, 2006
1PM

A proposed Amendment to Residential-Business Planned Development No. 967
submitted by Ten East Delaware, LLC and First Elysian Properties, LLC for the property generally located at 912-920 North Rush Street. The applicants propose to increase the overall floor area ratio from 18.73 to 21.68, increase the number of parking spaces in Sub-Area II from 125 to 188 and decrease the number of dwelling units in Sub-Area II from 229 to 144. (42nd Ward)
What does this all mean?

[Adam186]

They should've taken care of that a long time before now. It should've been approved before they even began marketing.

[kevininlb]

This building is very beautiful and reminds me of Park Tower. I have yet to find a Chicago high-rise that detracts from the skyline. Every new tower either under construction or proposed are unique and beautiful. Most cities have several highrises that should never have been built, such as the MetLife Building in New York, but Chicago has a knack for getting the best highrises. Kudos to you all.

You are absolutely right! I've been cringing at each new building in NYC, but psyched about Chicago development. It's a great city getting better. Oh and that new place on Oak is awesome.

[BVictor1]

They should've taken care of that a long time before now. It should've been approved before they even began marketing.

It was approved a long time ago. What they are going for is an amendment to the zoning. Because the number of units and parking spaces has changed, they need to go through the plan commission for the changes to be approved.