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Steely Dan
04-12-2006, 09:43 PM
there's a photo of a model of it in one of the old books i have, along with harry weese's 2,500' proposal for a chicago world trade center that's even cooler. if i remember the SOM plan correctly, graham said it would be based on the sears use of bundled tubes, but this tower would have 15 of them, instead of 9, and they would go in a 7-5-3- sequence with the 3 setbacks in the same sequence and the 7 tube section rising to the full 2,300' height, so it looks like your render is mostly right, though i'm not sure what the lower level bustle seen on the west side of it is.
^Would it be possible to make scans? Inc. the Wesse pyramid-ish design?
Steely Dan
04-12-2006, 09:54 PM
^ perhaps in a couple months time, my entire library is boxed up right now as i'm in a temproray living situation. i'm not postive which book it's in, but i'm pretty sure the images of those two are in The Sky is the Limit: A Century of Chicago Skyscrapers, which can be picked up at any chicago area bookstore for around 60 bucks. if you don't own this volume already, you need to own it because it's fantastic, so just fork over the dinero and enjoy.
Do you recall how the tubes were arranged?
Was it like this:
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this
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or possibly this?
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Some other configuration? You can move the .gifs around to depict it.
Steely Dan
04-12-2006, 10:26 PM
Do you recall how the tubes were arranged?
Was it like this:
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that one is correct. with the top seven going to 2,300', the middle 5 going to ~1,800' or so, and the bottom 3 going to ~1,300. i'm not sure about those heights of the lower setbacks, but it was something along those lines.
Thanks a million Dan. All I need is the location and facade details and this thing is final. I'll have a render of the correct massing in about 10 minutes.
I'm very disappointed with the true version of this building. It really, really needs some more setbacks.
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8810/wtcv24wa.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
HK Chicago
04-13-2006, 03:56 AM
^ while the other side must be horrible, that rendering is hot... good old 70's/80's supertall design.
JACKinNYC
04-13-2006, 04:23 AM
I think it's interesting to look at for now, but I hope you take it off the city rendering soon. I really like what you're doing for two reasons. One, it looks freakin fantastic... and two, it's based on buildings that will actually be built (or probably will) soon in Chacago.
^No worries. It's just a temp thing. But I feel it's important to see what's been shown in the past, so I'll throw one of these blasts from the past out every once in a while.
A uploaded some new renders to the diagram. Currently pending approval.
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1313/wtcf.gif _ http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5043/wtcb.gif
Adam186
04-13-2006, 06:57 PM
Massive!! Great angles, STR. By the way, does anyone know why this fell through? Also, there were supposed to be 2, one 2,300 ft and another 2,500 ft?
Actually there's 3 designs. The Graham 2,300 footer, the Wesse 2,500 footer (which is done I just need to render) and third design also by S.O.M. This third tower was the first design to be released in 1981 and is probably the lamest of the 3 designs, though the 3 cutouts through the building were interesting. I'm not sure why they fell through, as pre-leasing actually went pretty well, with letters of intent for 2/3 of the office space. I'll have to do more research.
EDIT: Seems like an almost parrallel story to 7 South Dearborn. I found the obituary in a 1984 New York Times article. I'll post it later. But apparently the developer went broke in the end and didn't even have enough money to pay the $850,000 fee he owed SOM. The Wesse design appears to be an independant study unrelated to te WTC, but details are still sketchy.
This book seems to have some indepth some in it too. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393731073/002-7170564-6806451?v=glance&n=283155
Original Plan
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More info I dragged up
Chicago World Trade Center
Location: Chicago, USA
Original Proposal Date: October 27, 1981
Projected Cost: 1 billion (circa 1981) dollars
Height of Rooftop: 2300 feet
Stories: 184
Height of Highest Occupied Floor: 2280 feet
Status: Unbuilt but possibly revived
Materials: High strength steel
Fascade Material: Gray and black aluminum
Main Architect: Bruce Grahm of SOM
Main Structural Engineer: John Zils of SOM
The Chicago World Trade Center would truly be an amazing building if built. Here are the facts I know about this building so far. The Chicago World Trade Center would stand 2300 feet high with 184 stories. That is more floors than Aesop had fables! It had a bundled tube design, like the sears tower. The Chicago World Trade Center's design is different, though, being a 5x9 tubed design. Each tube is a 45 foot square. Here is how the building is set up. The first three rows are the full 9 tubes wide and rise the complete 184 stories at 2300 feet. The fourth row is 7 tubes wide and rises up to 80 percent the full height, or to the 150th story at 1845 feet...Finally, the fifth and final row is five tubes wide after the first few stories and rises up to 78 percent the full height, or to the 147th story at 1800 feet...The total amount of rentable space within this building (13.5 million square feet) would have exceeded the amount of rentable space within Sears Tower and both of the original New York WTC twin towers combined!
The engineering of the Chicago World Trade Center project began in 1980 and took a little over a year to complete. Tentative plans for the project were formally announced on October 27, 1981. Groundbreaking took place in February 1982. Excavation on the Chicago World Trade Center's foundation was scheduled to begin in April 1982. Completion of the project was scheduled for late 1988. The building would have been open for buisness by 1990.
Here are a couple more fun facts:
The fourth row of the building, which is seven 45 foot tubes wide is a somewhat darker shade of grey than the rest of the building. The architects made the building's colors this way to help enhance it's splendor even more.
The topmost floor of the CWTC would have been a restaurant that would have enabled people to dine at an altitude of 2280 feet above Chicago!
Apparently Mr. Raskow didn't get a warm reception here.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/7136/dallas1tz.gif
I'm working on the Wesse plan right now. Keep watching this post. There's quite a bit of stuff to look through and I keep turning up a lot of really interesting stuff, like the new quote in my signiture, which is from an interview just a year before his death in 1984. I'm saving all the pdf's and will be able to post higher-res images of everything if needed.
Check this out! A brand new supertall proposal from about the time of the 1970's Boom.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4099/projectd0sa.gif
I'm also turning up stupid crap like this. I saw the render and it wasn't that bad. Not to mention it was obviously not meant to be very accurate.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/2757/idiot8vz.gif
Adam186
04-14-2006, 01:36 AM
Wow, thanks STR!
Steely Dan
04-14-2006, 02:40 AM
^^ great research, STR! as long as you seem to be in the history sluething mindset (and have access to the trib archives), here's another little chicago doozy to check out. see what you find for an unbuilt project called "Schaumburg Planets" or "Schaumburg Planet" or "The Planet of Schaumburg" or something along those lines. there was a diagram of it in either the trib or sun-times back when 7SD was first making headlines. from what i remember, it was to be a super-tall out in schaumburg, if you can believe that. i don't remember which year it was first proposed, but i'm almost certain it was post-1980.
jcchii
04-14-2006, 04:16 AM
bloody hell that's giant
see what you find for an unbuilt project called "Schaumburg Planets" or "Schaumburg Planet" or "The Planet of Schaumburg" or something along those lines. there was a diagram of it in either the trib or sun-times back when 7SD was first making headlines. from what i remember, it was to be a super-tall out in schaumburg, if you can believe that. i don't remember which year it was first proposed, but i'm almost certain it was post-1980.
You know what, when I was searching I did come across a article with a Schaumberg headline, but I thought it was backround static. Though, since I was focused on 1981 to 1984, the life span of the World Trade Center, it probably was. I'll have to take a look at it when I go back to class on Tuesday, if you can stand the wait.
The interesting thing is that with all the research, I'm little closer to piecing this story together. I know how it began, with the press conference in which the developer didn't show up. I know how it ended, with Stanley Raskow (I wonder if he's still alive? Nothing like going to the source) moving is prospects to Dallas and owing SOM almost a million dollars for their work. The inbetween is completely absent. When did the Telescoping Tube turn into the Bundled Tube or was it vice versa (I'm leaning towards thinking the bundled tube came first)? Where does Henry Wesse fit it? Where was the Wesse Tower located? The SOM designs were sited at 300 N LaSalle, However, I'm unsure where the Wesse Design would be. Does anyone recognize the site below?
BTW Thanks to Mark C. (a lurker who's been invaluable help in my search) for several of the photos.
wow such a shame they never built it..........
Tentative timeline for the WTC:
*1980-1981 Stanley Raskow approaches SOM with a propsal to build a 5-6Msqft 1,700 foot tall tower in Chicago.
*1981 Architect Bruce Graham and structural engineer John Zils produce the 181 story bundled tube design shown above. Structural Engineer Fazlur Khan is dissatisfied with using bundled tubes and searches for an alternative. By this time the tower has balloned in size to 10Msqft and 2,300 feet. 2,500 feet was the preffered height by Raskow, but Khan adamantly insisted for a reduction to at most 2,100. They eventually settled on the middle figure.
*1982 Khan invents the telescoping superframe and applies it to the WTC, resulting in the 168 story design on the last page. Raskow announces the tower to the world, but is absent from the unveiling. A representative for a group of financiers is does attend. Raskow insists the project is real and has several backup plans for financing should the main fall through.
*1983-1984 Stanley Raskow suspends work with SOM on the WTC. SOM's fee of $840,000 is unpaid. SOM seeks its debt through legal action. No assets of Stanely Raskow or his company, 300 N LaSalle Development, are found and the commission is never paid. The original financiers had pulled out some time earlier. The underwriter for the project at the time of SOM's termination is found to be a shell of a company that was forced into bankruptcy a year or so earlier after it was found to have committed accounting fraud.
*1984 Stanely Raskow, after being unable to secure his new site near Grant Park, threatens to take his project to Texas. Reprtedly the tower has been brought up to the 2,500 foot figure Raskow wanted.
*1984-1986 Raskow commissions Wesse and Assc. for a new WTC design, based on a structural study Wesse had done earlier. This new design is based on an enhancement of the squared tube (eg. Aon, World Trade Center NY) and stands 2,500 feet tall as Raskow earlier intended. ARTICLE (http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=103582)
No information after December 1986 is available.
Latoso
04-14-2006, 07:50 PM
Good work STR and good luck tracking down Raskow.
Final version of the Graham/Zils design at correct location.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/8271/wtc1.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc1.jpg) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/9305/wtc2.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc2.jpg) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/4676/wtc5.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc5.jpg)
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3006/wtc4.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wtc4.jpg)
It's doesn't look too bad from the postcard shot.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/3180/pc-wtc.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc-wtc.jpg)
Unfortunately, this is what most of Chicago would look at when commuting downtown.
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7815/jfk-wtc.th.jpg (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jfk-wtc.jpg)
Next up is the 168 story Graham/Khan design.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/107/gk0pm.gif (http://imageshack.us)
HK Chicago
04-16-2006, 07:19 AM
Congrats on winning the march diagram poll.
it supost to be leaning?
No, it's just a lazy edit-job by the NY Times.
Congrats on winning the march diagram poll.
Thanks.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5662/bdcwtc.jpg
Latoso
04-17-2006, 06:36 AM
^^The Chicago towers look like they're all going to gang up on the Burj Dubai. Even Sears looks like a short but tough thug compared to Burj Dubai.
Swede
04-17-2006, 09:13 AM
^yeah, both WTCs dominate Burj Dubai is the same way Sears dominates Petronas.
Adam186
04-18-2006, 12:05 AM
Oh hell yeah man. Nice job, that would make the ultimate Chicago mob with the older and wiser Sears tower as the don and the bigger Chicago buildings as his hit men. Great work, and looking forward to seeing more of the future skyline.
Grumpy
04-19-2006, 12:28 AM
WTC would have been a great asset to the Chicago skyline
Bergenser
04-19-2006, 04:54 PM
wow all those 3D models where great! :D
JACKinNYC
04-21-2006, 05:09 AM
STR, as a little bit of a push to get you working on the Chicago scene again, I offer the opinion that the closer you get it to being finished the closer you'll be to selling it to a video game company or movie production company. Good luck making money. :)
I do have other things going on in my life besides this.
ThreeHundred
04-22-2006, 07:13 PM
You should make The Illinois. Even though it was just a vision...
dam lazy editors lol imagin if they had build thoughs towers in chicago we would have even taller buidings being built..........
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jcchii
04-23-2006, 02:26 PM
nice^
so is that now in the older skyline models, or it will be in upcoming ones?
It's not done yet actually. I can post it in the diagrams because I'm able to edit out stuff. That is much harder to do in the perspective shots of the city model. Maybe in a week I'll have some new context shots.
JACKinNYC
04-23-2006, 05:32 PM
I do have other things going on in my life besides this.
No, no, no! You can't have a life outside of this. ;)
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7323/ttc4.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc4.jpg) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9755/ttc2.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc2.jpg) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2415/ttc3.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc3.jpg) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8900/ttc1.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc1.jpg) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8513/ttc6.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc6.jpg) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8405/ttc7.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc7.jpg) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8048/ttc5.th.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttc5.jpg)
HK Chicago
04-24-2006, 08:43 AM
Damn! The best model yet, love the view from the N the best.
Best tower U/C that I can think of right now, I'm back into my early 2004 love of this work... cannot wait until it's done.
JACKinNYC
04-24-2006, 09:14 PM
Nice!
No, no, no! You can't have a life outside of this. ;)
What's stopping you from helping? Half of the work is texturing and that's something I don't have to do. If you (or anyone else reading this) can draw as good as the texture below, you can help. Just draw one face of the building (you don't even have to get the colors right, I'd fix that afterword) then another until your done. You don't even need fancy software, I do most of the work in plain old paint.
Texture (keep in mind I've stretched it) EW faces are on the left side, the narrow N-S faces are on the right.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1488/chin900michigand4ov.th.png (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin900michigand4ov.png)
Final Product.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7292/xt2.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xt2.jpg)
JACKinNYC
04-25-2006, 05:15 PM
Gladly. If what you want is a flat image representing the "four walls" and roof of a building, and then you can put them together, give me (or link) some photos of a simple tall building in Chicago and I'll put something together in Photoshop. Tell me what resolution.
If you want vector I can struggle through Illustrator.
A good one to start with is 30 North LaSalle(link (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=117535)). It's a simple box. All you need to do is make one side, which can then be copied to all the sides. You don't need to do a roof.
Another one is the Unitrin Building (link (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=116833)) which has two sides which would be copied over to the other two. You wouldn't have to do the sign.
The third is 1000 Lake Shore Plaza (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=117388), near JHC. It's another two sider.
The resolution for all is the height in meters times 2. The width doesn't matter as long as it doesn't exceed the height.
BTW Here's a test shot of a night lighting system. I'm not sure if I'm going to pursue this, but I'm testing the settings should I want to in the future.
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/7261/nightpanotest3jo.th.jpg (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nightpanotest3jo.jpg)
JACKinNYC
04-25-2006, 08:24 PM
I'll do my best.
I like the lighting test. Is there a simple way to make it look like only some of the office lights are on in the buildings?
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Latoso
04-25-2006, 11:46 PM
^^Nice Taipei 101. :)
I started work on a Sears Tower, but quit because I was lazy.
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Patrick
04-26-2006, 05:57 AM
I like the nightime shot!
I'll do the 1000 Lake Shore Plaza, looks easy :)
Patrick
04-26-2006, 06:18 AM
Here it is... :)
The 1000 Lake Shore Plaza
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/358/diagram27yg.gif
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/358/diagram27yg.th.gif (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diagram27yg.gif)
It also made a nice Diagram!
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=7788&drawingID=40562
Thanks, it looks great, both the diagram and the texture. I'll render some shots tomorrow.
8 hours of rendering gives you 13MB of animated goodness. Flyby 3.0 Next version will actually include a flythrough of the downtown.
http://skyscrapermodels.us/pics/Chi.avi
JACKinNYC
04-26-2006, 05:34 PM
Glad I didn't do it too. I guess I'll pick some obscure Chicago building that nobody else will do.
Video 2, 7 hours of rendering. 18MB total size
http://skyscrapermodels.us/pics/Vid2.avi
malec
04-27-2006, 11:03 AM
What's stopping you from helping? Half of the work is texturing and that's something I don't have to do. If you (or anyone else reading this) can draw as good as the texture below, you can help. Just draw one face of the building (you don't even have to get the colors right, I'd fix that afterword) then another until your done. You don't even need fancy software, I do most of the work in plain old paint.
Texture (keep in mind I've stretched it) EW faces are on the left side, the narrow N-S faces are on the right.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1488/chin900michigand4ov.th.png (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin900michigand4ov.png)
Final Product.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7292/xt2.th.jpg (http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xt2.jpg)
This was one of my favourite buildings in Chicago. Looks great and really classy.
TTC
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/892/ttcu.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttcu.jpg) http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/148/ttcz.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttcz.jpg) http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4506/ttcy.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttcy.jpg) http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5972/ttcx.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttcx.jpg)
WV
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6406/wv1.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wv1.jpg)
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9606/ttd.th.jpg (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ttd.jpg)
williamphilapa
04-28-2006, 03:32 AM
:previous: Sick graphics :tup:
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4868/cc1.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cc1.jpg)
wow coming along
so how any hours have you put into this sofar
Smiley Person
05-02-2006, 03:56 PM
That's all? It looks like a lot more.
Patrick
05-07-2006, 08:54 AM
I forgot the name of those towers but they look great :)
so any new stuff to drool over?
^Yeah. Patrick's 1000 N LSD, but not much else. I've been busy with finals, a new girlfriend and summer job hunting.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4091/g28kp.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g28kp.jpg) http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9364/g10ve.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g10ve.jpg)
umm str you should imp;ort these into gmax and releas these for simcity4....
Grumpy
05-23-2006, 09:57 AM
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4091/g28kp.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g28kp.jpg) http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/9364/g10ve.th.jpg (http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g10ve.jpg)
When looking to the top of the Burj Dubai , I am surprised to see how tiny the top really is.
Just wondering who knows the exact spot of the highest apartment ?
^630m up, so the setback to the right of the one next to the tip of Fordham spire in the 2nd render.
29-39 LaSalle
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3382/232.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=232.jpg) http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/1803/231.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=231.jpg) http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6718/234.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=234.jpg) http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/3199/233.th.jpg (http://img395.imageshack.us/my.php?image=233.jpg)
slowly but shurly it get better and better keep it coming STR
aaron38
06-07-2006, 09:45 PM
You know your city has a good skyline when an ONLY 800 foot building can get lost in it.
Where is 29-39 South LaSalle? Is it the little grey box sticking up behind the Red building in the postcard shot?
VivaLFuego
06-22-2006, 10:15 PM
bump.
how's it going?
Going? Try stopped. I'm putting in 40 hours at the job and any free time I'm not spending with the girlfriend I'm using on the Trade Center model.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/372/tt187ak.jpg
VivaLFuego
06-23-2006, 05:51 PM
^beautiful
Grumpy
06-29-2006, 09:32 PM
impressive work :eek:
you still got all the time in the world to finish your chicago model lol
ltsmotorsport
07-03-2006, 08:56 PM
Seriously, the WTC is easliy the best 3D model work I've seen here.
^Thanks.
The Park Michigan. However, many of you will notice major changes in the model. The most apparent is the new rendering engine, mental ray, which I first started using on the WTC and the new Burj Dubai model. It models shadows and reflections extremely well and is what makes the buildings seem to pop out. The second is that I added a generic flooring for each of the undetailed buildings. Each building is now demarcated every 12 feet by a line.
http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/2350/pm39js.th.jpg (http://img322.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm39js.jpg) http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/4749/pm87eq.th.jpg (http://img322.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm87eq.jpg) http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2241/pm74sx.th.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm74sx.jpg) http://img276.imageshack.us/img276/5756/pm65re.th.jpg (http://img276.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm65re.jpg) http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/2701/pm56hv.th.jpg (http://img314.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm56hv.jpg) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3452/pm40os.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm40os.jpg) http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/8494/pm16tg.th.jpg (http://img290.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm16tg.jpg)
jcchii
07-07-2006, 11:09 PM
^bloody hell
HK Chicago
07-08-2006, 02:06 AM
Nice. TTC is near-photorealistic.. great choice on the rendering tool.
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6168/19a4sp.th.jpg (http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19a4sp.jpg)
Dawn to Dusk
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3361/076nn.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=076nn.jpg) http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4868/093lg.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=093lg.jpg) http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1573/117rw.th.jpg (http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=117rw.jpg) http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4788/133zm.th.jpg (http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=133zm.jpg) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7476/159iv.th.jpg (http://img92.imageshack.us/my.php?image=159iv.jpg) http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7939/198ek.th.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=198ek.jpg)
Bergenser
07-12-2006, 08:19 PM
wow! :crazy:
archytype
08-04-2006, 10:15 PM
i see that in front of the tides and shoreham you added a tall building. you better raise it to a ht of 900'. it's building C in LSE by architectonica and has a big hole piercing the top.
spyguy
08-04-2006, 10:26 PM
^I'm confused. Is this a new (unreleased) building you're talking about or what?
Edit: Is building C the one in between Tides and Shoreham but next to the river? Was that the one that was supposed to have the big arch? Any info on this would be awesome. I really hope it is 900 feet - what an awesome place to live :)
Steely Dan
08-07-2006, 12:06 AM
i see that in front of the tides and shoreham you added a tall building. you better raise it to a ht of 900'. it's building C in LSE by architectonica and has a big hole piercing the top.
say what?
is any part of that actually true? 900 ft.? Arquitectonica? big hole piercing the top? for real? man oh man, i can't wait to hear more.
Swede
08-18-2006, 03:20 PM
Soo.. you doin' any work on this now STR?
Latoso
09-11-2006, 05:52 AM
Bump.
urban_encounter
09-17-2006, 04:32 AM
Wow!! After that preview of Chicago 2010 I think I might need a cigarette, (and i don't even smoke).
Incredible work STR....
:yes:
Rocket1
09-17-2006, 05:05 AM
Great stuff, STR.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3452/pm40os.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pm40os.jpg)
I'm a bit confused by the tall buildings down by the Field Museum.
One of them is One Museum Park (the blue one?).
But what is the other?
One Museum Park West. There's two towers in that development.
BVictor1
09-19-2006, 03:42 AM
i see that in front of the tides and shoreham you added a tall building. you better raise it to a ht of 900'. it's building C in LSE by architectonica and has a big hole piercing the top.
I called Architectonia today to try to get some information on this, and I was told no comment. I was told the reason why there was no information on this project was because the developer didn't want any information released at this time;) When I asked "when could you make a comment", I was told that might be several months, when the developer was ready to do so.
I'm sure that you guys can read between the lines here.
When I have the time, I will be getting back to adding to my Chicago model. Gone is the old method of using bumpmaps, instead I will use a method that blends the techniques used in my WTC and Burj Dubai models with a few good short cuts needed to cut down on time and memory requirements.
The first two attempts at this method are below, Goldman Sachs and 1 Liberty Plaza.
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2876/706.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=706.jpg) http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5314/238mw4.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=238mw4.jpg) http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3948/236tp7.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=236tp7.jpg)
PansitPinoy
10-03-2006, 09:37 PM
Since first browsing this thread when you first created it in March, all I can say is "wow". Keep up the excellent work, STR. Looking forward to the new renderings of Chicago.
Sears Tower Redux, and the CME
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7884/chin001.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin001.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1489/chin004.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin004.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8018/chin002.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin002.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4637/chin004B.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin004B.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3194/chin003.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin003.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1744/chin005.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin005.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4039/chin006.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin006.jpg) http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7480/chin007.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin007.jpg)
HK Chicago
10-12-2006, 03:32 AM
Outstanding. ST looks great, right down to the accurate variations in floor height.
Bergenser
10-14-2006, 10:19 AM
love the Sears! :tup::)
Patrick
10-14-2006, 06:58 PM
Seriously, wow
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6113/chin008.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin008.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3589/chin009.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin009.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2898/chin010.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin010.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/3281/chin011.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin011.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1194/chin012.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin012.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2973/chin013.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin013.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6749/chin014.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin014.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1249/chin015.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin015.jpg) http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/191/chin016.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chin016.jpg)
village person
10-14-2006, 10:52 PM
Are you still taking requests? I'd like to see an animation showing the growth of the skyline. Panorama or aerial (or both!), showing all completed buildings and then showing all buildings rising or expected to rise in the next decade or so. That would be awesome! :tup:
I've tried my hand at 3d models, using form-Z and an older Studio Max (don't remember which one). Well, before that I messed around in UnrealEd 2.0. I was such a novice at it, but gained a huge respect for anyone who can do what you do. I'm just amazed there are tools that allow you to shape something as complex as the Fordham Spire! I wouldn't even know where to begin. :eek:
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