[StevenW]

:banana: :yes: :banana:

"A tall order for city skyline"


59-story tower OK'd by design panel would be highest building in Baltimore
By Lorraine Mirabella
sun reporter
Originally published February 17, 2006


A glass skyscraper soaring 59 stories and 717 feet would become Baltimore's tallest building, with a distinctive, slender shape that would dominate the city's skyline, under a concept approved yesterday by the city's design panel.



The tower would rise in the shape of a parallelogram on Light Street between the Hyatt Regency and Harbor Court hotels. It would contain luxury condominiums and a boutique hotel atop street-level shops, restaurants and parking.

It would be nearly 200 feet higher than the Legg Mason Building at 100 Light St., now the city's tallest.

The $300 million project, planned by Philadelphia developer ARC Wheeler, shows the strength of the city's revitalization, some experts said yesterday.

It is the latest example of a surge of redevelopment that has begun transforming downtown into a residential and entertainment hub, boosting demand for amenities such as hotels, restaurants and shops.

Such a signature building could come to symbolize the continuation of the city's renaissance, some experts said, while putting the finishing touch on harbor redevelopment.

The 2-acre site, one of the last undeveloped parcels in the Inner Harbor, has been used as a parking lot since a McCormick spice plant was demolished in the late 1980s.

"Many across the nation continue to view Baltimore as a below-average performer with Rust Belt characteristics, so this will be an important marketing symbol for the city," said Anirban Basu, chairman and chief executive of Sage Policy Group Inc.

"It will be seen by anyone traveling along I-95. This building will do much to reposition Baltimore's skyline in people's minds and reposition the city itself in people's minds."

Business and political leaders said they are encouraged to see such a substantial private investment downtown.

"The fact that there are businesses who have identified Baltimore and see these opportunities and are willing to make this sort of significant investment signifies the future prospects of the city and the recognition, from outside of our state, of just how tremendous those opportunities are," said Donald C. Fry, president of the Greater Baltimore Committee.

Rick Abbruzzese, a spokesman for Mayor Martin O'Malley, said yesterday that the mayor is glad to see the project moving forward.

"It's a $300 million private investment on a long-vacant piece of property in downtown Baltimore," Abbruzzese said. "It's great to see this kind of investment coming back to our city."

The project, designed by New York architect Robert A.M. Stern, got its much-anticipated unveiling yesterday before the city's Urban Design and Architecture Review Panel, drawing a larger than usual crowd.

To be called 10 Inner Harbor, a nod to ARC Wheeler's 10 Rittenhouse Square mixed-use project in Philadelphia, the 1.3 million-square-foot-building would have 285 luxury and loft condominiums with high ceilings, large expanses of clear glass, balconies and roof terraces enclosed by clear glass railings.

The first eight floors of the tower would contain a 192-room boutique hotel. The base would include 74,600 square feet of ground-level and second-floor shops, including a restaurant, possibly a gourmet grocery store and about 800 above-grade parking spaces.

The base would also include a restaurant pavilion on the southeastern corner, with frontage along Charles and Conway streets open to stores. The developer plans to landscape the half-acre roof of the tower's base and put a pool, spa and fitness center next to the garden.

Harold B. Wheeler, a principal with ARC Wheeler, said yesterday that he expects to sign up a hotel operator within the next month and to close on the purchase of the McCormick lot from owner Central Parking in the second quarter. He said the company is in the advanced stages of acquiring financing.

"We're confident that financing is there for us," he said.

Development of hotels, condominiums, shops and restaurants is booming downtown, especially around the waterfront.
Hilton Hotel Corp. announced yesterday that work had begun on a 756-room convention hotel adjacent to Oriole Park at Camden Yards.



A Ritz Carlton condominium is under construction on Key Highway on the Inner Harbor waterfront, and a Four Seasons is being built in Harbor East.

Planned are a 34-story residential tower above the Market Place Metro station and a 21-story condo tower atop an 11-story garage at Water and Gay streets.

Demand for downtown housing, especially from empty-nesters and young professionals, is strong enough to absorb the new development, said Kirby Fowler, president of Downtown Partnership of Baltimore Inc. Hotel occupancy rates downtown have been higher than average, boding well for a new boutique hotel, he said.

Baltimore's ability to sell $301 million worth of bonds last month to finance its convention hotel showed investor confidence in the hotel market, Fowler said.

"It sent the message that Baltimore can certainly handle more hotel rooms," he said. "One question is whether the condos will go for exorbitant rates or reasonable rates. But people want to own their own property."

The design is subject to approval by the city's Planning Commission. After the nine-story McCormick building was razed in 1989, the city agreed to allow a taller building on the site if it met other standards, including one that restricts a building's height based on the area of its base.

M.J. "Jay" Brodie, president of Baltimore Development Corp., told the project's developer and architects that he felt comfortable with the height, saying the design could offer the city a distinctive landmark.

"This is a great site in terms of its importance, and a great site deserves a great building," he said.

Among those at yesterday's design panel meeting were homeowner groups worried about whether the building would overwhelm its surroundings.

Keith Losoya, president of the Federal Hill Neighborhood Association, said many people in his neighborhood accept change as part of urban living but feel that more attention should be paid to the scale of development.

"We encourage development in scale with its surrounding and the stepping up to the city center," Losoya said. "It's certainly higher than we anticipated, kind of out of scale with the area."

Bernice Winston, a retired teacher who lives with her husband in a condo in Harbor Court, just behind the Harbor Court Hotel, lamented the possible loss of the views up Charles Street and the prospect of more congestion and traffic.

"That building is antithetical to the principle of low buildings along the Inner Harbor and the neighborhood characteristics," Winston said.

Panel members asked the architects to revise the design to make the tower's facade less plain and less like an office tower. Several members disagreed with plans to cut a diagonal in the base at Light and Barre streets, at the entrance to a proposed restaurant.

"This could be more of a sculptural building," one that looks less like pieces stacked one on another, said Mario Schack, a panel member.

After the hearing, Wheeler said those suggestions were on target and that the development team had been discussing similar ideas.

The architects said they considered building two smaller towers on the site but threw the idea out because the buildings would have been too close together for residential use.

They said they arrived at the idea of a single tower with the upper part more slender than the lower part after taking into account the views from the building and of the building, and ways to minimize shadows cast on smaller structures.



lorraine.mirabella@baltsun.com
Sun reporter Jamie Smith Hopkins contributed to this article.

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This news, ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES! BALTIMORE ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like this tower should rise with little or no problem. It has so many key oks for building. I can't wait till it's in the skyline!
59 stories and 717 ft. tall!!! And it's glass!!! Awesome day for Baltimore.
When renderings come I'll post them.

:banana: :yes: :banana: :yes: :banana: :yes: :banana:

[EastSideHBG]

GREAT news for B-more for sure! I was down there again today for an interview and then my g/f and I looked for apartments for a bit. I simply cannot believe all of the condos going up in B-more now! I am sure that all of this new development will now spur the revitalization of the outer areas that have been in a state of decay for years.

Exciting times for B-more indeed and I hope to become part of them soon! :tup:

[StevenW]

GREAT news for B-more for sure! I was down there again today for an interview and then my g/f and I looked for apartments for a bit. I simply cannot believe all of the condos going up in B-more now! I am sure that all of this new development will now spur the revitalization of the outer areas that have been in a state of decay for years.

Exciting times for B-more indeed and I hope to become part of them soon! :tup:
That would be great, EastSideHBG!
I hope everything works out well for you! :)
BTW,

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-02/22007837.jpg
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-02/22011950.jpg
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-02/22011096.jpg
http://www.arcwheeler.com/projects/414lightstreet/414lightstreet_0_lrg.jpg

[M. Brown]

Congrats!

[ItsConanOBrien]

Looks sharp!

[EastSideHBG]

Thanks a lot, StevenW! I will keep everyone posted for sure. I have been in love w/ B-more ever since I was a kid and I would LOVE to call it home. :)

I think that is an AWESOME building and it will make a great addition to the skyline!

And you know, I keep seeing similarties between Philly and B-more and they have reminded me of each other for years now. This new tallest reminds me of Philly's new Comcast bldg. that will be their new tallest *in a way*. Then I see this in the article, and it reaffirms my stance a little more:

--The $300 million project, planned by Philadelphia developer ARC Wheeler, shows the strength of the city's revitalization, some experts said yesterday.--

[themaguffin]

That's really cool. it'a about time Baltimore got a cool signature building. Given the boom intown, I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years it has a tallish neighbor as well...

[rican_papi]

man they said hartford had it much better skyline then B-more but now yall have 700 foot building that really had us off but good for b-more:cool: :cool: :cool:

[STLgasm]

Wow, this has been long overdue! Baltimore has been hurting for a signature tower to crown its beautiful skyline. Can anyone doctor a photo showing the entire span of the skyline with the new tower included?

[wrightchr]

holy cow B-more...what a great addition!

[StevenW]

Wow, this has been long overdue! Baltimore has been hurting for a signature tower to crown its beautiful skyline. Can anyone doctor a photo showing the entire span of the skyline with the new tower included?
I wish I could. Anybody else? :shrug:

[StevenW]

man they said hartford had it much better skyline then B-more but now yall have 700 foot building that really had us off but good for b-more:cool: :cool: :cool:
Well, there are A LOT of new high-rise/Skyscrapers planned for Baltimore. Just wait until about 3 to 4 years from now! Wow! About 10 more should appear in the city skyline that are not there now. And there may be much more.... ;) :D

[Joey D]

:banana: :cheers: :banana: Hmm, so how they gonna get the Time Warner out of NYC?

Lol, j/k. Good goin, B-More. We knew you could do it, baby.

[wanderer34]

The building looks sharp and appropiate for that city. Looks like B-more finally gets it right!!! Congrats! :tup:

[StevenW]

The building looks sharp and appropiate for that city. Looks like B-more finally gets it right!!! Congrats! :tup:
Thanks, wanderer34! :)

[passdoubt]

whoop whoop

[Evergrey]

what the heck is a "boutique hotel"... and has anyone here ever stayed at a "boutique hotel"?

[StevenW]

what the heck is a "boutique hotel"... and has anyone here ever stayed at a "boutique hotel"?
Boutique hotel is a term originating in North America to describe intimate, usually luxurious or quirky hotel environments. Boutique hotels differentiate themselves from larger chain/branded hotels and motels by providing personalized level accommodation and services / facilities.

Typically boutique hotels are furnished in a themed, stylish and/or aspirational manner. Although usually considerably smaller than a mainstream hotel, ranging from 3 to 100 guest rooms, boutique hotels are fitted with telephony and Wi-Fi Internet, air-conditioning, honesty bars and often cable/pay TV. Guest services are attended to by 24 hour hotel staff. Many boutique hotels have on-site dining facilities, and the majority offer bars and lounges which may also be open to the general public.

[Evergrey]

thank you, wikipedia

[K25150]

The new high-rise is only the beginning
Architecture: Edward Gunts
More buildings seen reaching for the sky

Originally published Feb 20, 2006
When developers unveiled plans last week for a 59-story tower on Light Street, at least one member of Baltimore's design review panel remarked that it could be Baltimore's tallest building for many years to come - so it had better be good.
But even if the $300 million condominium and hotel proposed for the former McCormick & Co. property does become the city's tallest building, it definitely won't be the only new tower to rise downtown.

Baltimore's skyline is on the verge of changing more than at any time since the Inner Harbor renewal began in the 1960s. And by far the biggest change is a wave of proposed buildings that would soar above existing structures throughout the central business district and beyond.

Additional parcels downtown could support structures that are even taller. In a very real sense, the sky's the limit.

"I think there could be potential for even taller buildings," said Kirby Fowler, president of the Downtown Partnership of Baltimore. "I want to get as many people living downtown as possible, That means density. In the city center, there are other sites that could support taller buildings. I don't necessarily think this is going to be the last one."

"Will Baltimore get more tall buildings? I hope so," said architect Peter Fillat. "The central business district could use another tall building. I would hope the city would continue to grow. Why not?"

As designed by Robert A.M. Stern Architects, the building planned for Light Street will contain 285 luxury and loft condominium residences, 192 boutique hotel rooms, nearly 75,000 square feet of retail space and 800 parking places. Known as 10 Inner Harbor and clad in glass, it will be 717 feet tall - 188 feet higher than the city's tallest building now, the Legg Mason tower.

Other buildings planned for downtown include a 34-story condominium tower on Market Place; two towers in Harbor East for the Four Seasons hotel and condominiums; a 21-story condo tower that will sit atop a garage at 414 Water St.; a 17-story condo at HarborView; and a 21-story apartment tower called the Zenith at Paca and Pratt streets.

Potential development sites include the One Light Street tract, where developer J. Joseph Clarke envisions a tower rising about 40 stories; the former News American site at Pratt and South streets; a parking garage on Lombard Street; the city fire department repair shop on Key Highway; land on Conway Street west of the Sheraton Inner Harbor hotel and even the former Morris A. Mechanic Theatre property at Charles and Baltimore streets.

Any new wave of tall buildings would represent a fundamental change for the Inner Harbor. Its original master plan called for buildings that were long and relatively low, forming a frame around the harbor basin along Pratt and Light streets. They were punctuated by buildings that were tall, slender and far apart - the 28-story World Trade Center and the 40-story Legg Mason tower.

Most of the early buildings were office structures. Their developers had to adhere to prescribed height limits because the city owned the land and awarded it only to developers who agreed to follow city design guidelines.



Earlier master plan
Baltimore has fewer tall buildings than most cities its size because the Inner Harbor master plan limited heights on many key parcels, particularly near the water's edge, explained Martin Millspaugh, former chief executive of Charles Center-Inner Harbor Management Inc., predecessor of the Baltimore Development Corp.
The plan allowed buildings that contained as much space as the One Charles Center skyscraper, but it was as if they were lain on their sides, he said.

The recent wave of high-rise proposals is attributable to several factors.

First, the new towers are being planned for land that's owned by private investors, not the city. The parcels generally aren't subject to the same height restrictions that the earlier ones were.

Second, because of the confluence of aging baby boomers, more positive attitudes about city living, the high cost of living in Washington and other factors, downtown Baltimore has become more of a residential market, not just a place for offices. The seven towers now in the works will be primarily for housing or hotels. The towers will be more slender because the typical floor of a condominium tower isn't as large as the typical floor of an office tower. That adds people downtown 24 hours a day and creates demand for shops and restaurants.

Third, Baltimore is becoming more of a linear city, with buildings stretching out from the compact central business core, all along the water's edge. Many people want to live or work on the "front row" of the harbor, or as close to it as possible. City planners have come to see the merits of building tall, slender structures with open space at the base, rather than short, squat buildings that block harbor views.



The Vancouver model
Fowler points to Vancouver, British Columbia, as a city that he believes has handled the height issue well. It has plenty of tall buildings, but they're generally accompanied by mandated public space, he said. "It's a better solution than squat buildings all around."
One developer who doubts that Baltimore will see a building taller than 10 Inner Harbor is Clarke, who is working on plans for the former Southern Hotel parcel at Light and Baltimore streets.

"It's unlikely," he said. "The reason you build tall is to get the most value out of a square foot of land. While Baltimore is not cheap, it isn't there yet" to justify taller buildings on every succeeding parcel.

Millspaugh said Baltimore's skyline has always been subject to rethinking. For example, he said, city planners started out with the idea of permitting two tall buildings for the Inner Harbor, both along Pratt Street. But then the Japanese architect Kenzo Tange came to town and suggested it needed a third tower, like a three-legged stool, to balance the skyline. The location for that third tower turned out to be where Harbor Court is now.

Millspaugh said it's more difficult for a city to control or anticipate building heights when it doesn't own the land for which new construction is proposed. In the future, he predicted, the height of any given building downtown is going to be "a function of the demand for space and what kind of space, weighed against the costs involved. I don't think that can be controlled."

While the changing skyline commands attention, what happens at street level is important, too. Millspaugh said he hopes that even as city officials consider plans for more tall buildings, they don't lose sight of the need to maintain the frame around the Inner Harbor - which he believes contributes to the "sense of well being" and enclosure that people have when they're on the promenade.

"It's still valuable to have midrise buildings, which are more human-scale," surrounding the Inner Harbor, he said. "It's important to maintain that frame - and the ambience it creates."

[UrbanMinded]

amazing

[StevenW]

thank you, wikipedia
Your welcome. ;) :haha: :tup:

[James Bond Agent 007]

Wow!!!!

[bmorescottamanda]

does anyone know when it is going to be up for aprroval?

[wanderer34]

I hope yall are building a full-time subway as well. If it's a city that needs an extensive subway system other than Phila, it's Baltimore. And it needs it bad!!!!

[StevenW]

yeah, but it will be a while before another subway line is built in Baltimore.

[architect1]

Its a beautiful building. Its amazing how much high there going to build it over every other building.

[MiamiSpartan]

Nice addition to the skyline. I was there this past summer and was very impressed with the city.

[StevenW]

Yeah, a lot like some of the other cities, Baltimore is definately experiencing a "boom" in high-rise construction. In about 3 to 5 years from now, the skyline of Baltimore will be much much longer and taller AND denser! ;) :D
10 Inner Harbor is just the beginning. BUT, I'm very happy ARC Wheeler became the ones who really "believed" in Baltimore enough to build such a wonderful tower of this magnitude. :)

[themaguffin]

Is there room within the main downtown cluster to build up? I would love to see a taller tower within those buildings. I'm once removed from the Harbor, that the new tower will look as if it blends into the others, but from only pictures I have seen (up close) it appears removed.

[StevenW]

There are a few good places left, yes. :)
One light street, 300 east pratt, several others. There will definately be at least three to four new tall towers rising in that cluster. Cityscape, a 35 story tower, right off Lombard street, (north of Pratt). Water Tower Place, a 32 story tower on Water Street. 701 East Baltimore Street, a 34 story tower. And, probably 300 east pratt street, a 35 story tower should be going up within the year or two. Water Street Tower is under construction right now.
10 Inner Harbor will be "away" from the "cluster" so-to-speak. BUT, it will give Baltimore a better feel of depth or dimension to the skyline. A "wrapping" around the Harbor feel. :)
I'm anxious to see renderings of it in the skyline from all angles at night and day. :)

BTW, there are plenty of places for tall towers in the western side of downtown and perhaps some to the north side of downtown. The east side of downtown is building up too, obviously. Honestly, I believe Baltimore will have at least 5 to 6 different skylines within the next 10 years. And, I'm sure at various angles, that could make a pretty impressive lengthy skyline as well. ;) Just wait. :)

[Expat]

Sharp! Can't wait to see it growing.

[Antares41]

Such great news for a great city!:banana:

[StevenW]

I'm not sure if I posted the link to ARC Wheeler, but here it is anyway:
http://www.arcwheeler.com/projects/

[Mike D]

yeah, but it will be a while before another subway line is built in Baltimore.

Which is a shame. Is anything new happening with that Baltimore Streetcar that was proposed a while back? Still though, this tower would be a great addition to a great city.

[Spooky873]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-02/22011950.jpg
http://www.baltimoresun.com/media/photo/2006-02/22011096.jpg
http://www.arcwheeler.com/projects/414lightstreet/414lightstreet_0_lrg.jpg


it looks like bloomberg knocked up twc

[StevenW]

it looks like bloomberg knocked up twc
yeah, there is a blueprint relationship there.

[Scruffy]

^ really it seems more to me like 7 wtc had an affair with Philly's comcast tower

[bmorescottamanda]

does anyone know when it is going to be approved by the city

[bmorescottamanda]

does anyone know what is going on with 300 pratt st?

[StevenW]

does anyone know when it is going to be approved by the city

Hi, bmorescottamanda! Welcome!
Well, 1st of all, 10 Inner Harbor has to go through one more final design hearing. I've been told that the tower will grow in height and have some sort of crown AND change somewhat in design cladding. But, it's pretty much a done deal in my opinion. :)
There is a realistic probability that 10 Inner Harbor may start construction this Fall. :)

2nd, 300 East Pratt Street is still "approved" per say, however the developer and architects remain silent as to what the final design will be AND WHEN the tower will break ground. :(
Stay tuned. :)

[boden]

Bal'mer deserves a new first class building!

[wrightchr]

i'm really surprised at all this new growth in baltimore. hope to see all of these new 30+ floor highrise buildings going up.

[bmorescottamanda]

thanks alot for the info StevenW.

[oliveurban]

Very nice, congrats. Will become a welcome addition to Baltimore's skyline.

I agree that it does resemble NY's Time Warner Center a bit; however, just as stunning, if not more. I like it a lot.

[BANKofMANHATTAN]

i like it - but it seems a bit separated from the rest of downtown, it may just the angle i'm viewing it at here.

[B'More22]

^The closest tower that it will be next to will be the Harbor Court Hotel (which it will totally dwarf). It will be 3 blocks south of the CBD Tower cluster. This tower will give our skyline a focal point.:)

[StevenW]

thanks alot for the info StevenW.
Your welcome. :) :tup:

[StevenW]

i like it - but it seems a bit separated from the rest of downtown, it may just the angle i'm viewing it at here.
Yeah, it's a few blocks away from the CBD. But this will give Baltimore an entirely different perspective, photo-wise. AND, other developers will have a chance to build other developments next to it to give a more connected feel to it.

[bmorescottamanda]

does any one know if 10 habor is going to have a observation deck?:)

[B'More22]

^Good question,
I think it should have an observation deck. It would give awesome 360 degree views.:)

[StevenW]

That's a good question. I think I might just have to ask Mr. Wheeler. :)

[bmorescottamanda]

thanks, let me know if you find out anything :tup:

[BANKofMANHATTAN]

^The closest tower that it will be next to will be the Harbor Court Hotel (which it will totally dwarf). It will be 3 blocks south of the CBD Tower cluster. This tower will give our skyline a focal point.:)

Ah, gotcha.

Thanks for clearing that up...

That's great for you guys, congrads!

I want one for Pittsburgh & Buffalo too. :haha:

[bmorescottamanda]

Bmore rocks :banana:

[Halovet]

i'm really surprised at all this new growth in baltimore. hope to see all of these new 30+ floor highrise buildings going up.
It's about 20 years late, but better than never. That Inner Harbor has got to be one of the finest in the world. I was there in 93 and thought WOW! What potential. Now it's thrilling to see it's beginning to become reality.

[bmorescottamanda]

yea you are right about that baltimore is really over
due.

[bmorescottamanda]

I cant wait to it is approved. :banana:

[bmorescottamanda]

baltimore needs this building quick

[K25150]

Westside of downtown has height restrictions due to the Shock Trauma State Police choppers landing at University Hospital. That is the reason the Zenith and the new convention center hotel will not be very tall. I think it's a 25 story max limit.

What are they calling for on 300 east Pratt?

[bmorescottamanda]

Thats cool thanks for the info about the westside. I dont know about 300 pratt but I hope its about the size of legg mason. or at least the WTC size.

[StevenW]

Westside of downtown has height restrictions due to the Shock Trauma State Police choppers landing at University Hospital. That is the reason the Zenith and the new convention center hotel will not be very tall. I think it's a 25 story max limit.

What are they calling for on 300 east Pratt?
Yeah, the original plans for the Zenith were proposed as a 500 ft. tower! Wow! What a difference a height restriction makes. ;)
300 East Pratt has been bought by a local developer, (latest word), and the developer wants to erect a hotel/retail/parking. I say, look for a 35 to 40 story tower there somewhere in the height range between 400 to 500 ft. tall, I would guesstimate. :D

[Wheelingman04]

I always believed Baltimore deserved to have a tower over 600 or 700ft. It is such a great urban city with a very nice and historical downtown.

[bmorescottamanda]

Thats great news about 300 pratt st. :tup: That really sucks about the zenith :yuck:

[bmorescottamanda]

anyone knows any news on 10 inner harbor?

[StevenW]

anyone knows any news on 10 inner harbor?
Hopefully I'll hear something this week. :)
http://www.arcwheeler.com/images/feature_baltimore_vert.jpg
:yes:

[bmorescottamanda]

cool thanks

[Spooky873]

i like what this building is gonna do for Bmore

[StevenW]

:previous: Yeah, it will finally give the city a "real" skyscraper. ;) :D

[themaguffin]

:cheers:

[bmorescottamanda]

:notacrook: :tup: :banana: I hope for good news soon.

[bmorescottamanda]

I read something on the ARC web site that construction of 10 inner harbor could start this summer. It was said in one of the news stories on February 1st before 10 harbor design was released. Does anyone know if this could still be true?

[StevenW]

^^ I seriously doubt that construction will start by this summer. At the EARLIEST I would say this late Fall, probably though this coming Spring of 2007. I mean, Summer is almost here. There is A LOT of things that ARCWheeler have to go through before actual construction takes place. But maybe, MAYBE.... this late Fall we MIGHT see it begin. :)
Let's hope so. :D

[bmorescottamanda]

I just hope it's actually built and never becomes a Never Built skyscraper. Like other cities have for they’re once proposed new tallest high-rises.

[Halovet]

I just hope it's actually built and never becomes a Never Built skyscraper. Like other cities have for they’re once proposed new tallest high-rises.
Like Buffalo' s Adelphia or Chicago's 7 Dearborn Towers?! :breakcomp:

[bmorescottamanda]

yea just like those cities.

[bmorescottamanda]

Baltimore's other projects
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=104386

[K25150]

I'm in contact with people from ARC Wheeler because I'm trying to set up something in the tower's retail space. The last I heard was that they were about to name the hotel brand. So at least the project is still moving forward.

When did 300 Pratt get approved?

[StevenW]

I'm in contact with people from ARC Wheeler because I'm trying to set up something in the tower's retail space. The last I heard was that they were about to name the hotel brand. So at least the project is still moving forward.

When did 300 Pratt get approved?
Very nice. Hope you get a space there.
Please keep us informed if you hear any more, (news), on 10 Inner Harbor.

About 300 East Pratt Street. It's been approved for quite some time now. The developer has just been very slow, (cautious), with the development. Rumor is that the lot has been sold to a local developer, (to be named later), and that this new developer has plans to put a hotel with retail/parking there. We'll see. Should be very interesting. If this is true, I do believe that it will finally start moving forward. Hopefully we'll see a 35 to 45 story tower erected there. :tup: :yes:

[bmorescottamanda]

It would be so great if it’s bigger than the Legg Mason building. That means the city will have two new tallest buildings.

[K25150]

Well hopefully ARC's trailblazing decision will make others not be afraid to build taller.

[themaguffin]

It would be so great if it’s bigger than the Legg Mason building. That means the city will have to new tallest buildings.

Hasn't that already been stated when the building was announced...?

[StevenW]

Hasn't that already been stated when the building was announced...?
That's talking about 300 East Pratt Street, not 10 Inner Harbor. :)
10 Inner Harbor WILL be the tallest, but, 300 East Pratt "MAY" be another chance at another taller building than Legg Mason. :)

[Baltimore21213]

Anyone knows when 10 inner harbor is going in front of the review board for final approval?

[StevenW]

:previous: Probably in a month or two. :)

[bmorescottamanda]

That is good news :tup: I hope it's ASAP.
I will be happy when they start to tear the parking lot up. :tup:

[StevenW]

:previous: Yeah, me too. :)

[bmorescottamanda]

I hope they add a couple more floors then it would get 200 points instead of 100 on emporis.com skyline rakings. Maybe it could put Baltimore back on the top 100 skylines. :tup:

[Baltimore21213]

That would be great.

[MarylandGirl]

I love this skyscraper. I think it is going to be one of the best looking skyscrapers in the US. I hope it's final design is as close to a 1000 ft as posible.

[StevenW]

I love this skyscraper. I think it is going to be one of the best looking skyscrapers in the US. I hope it's final design is as close to a 1000 ft as posible.
Welcome to the Forum, MarylandGirl! :)
Good to have you!. :)
Yeah, I'd like to see the building rise higher, too. :)
Who knows, maybe it will. ;) :tup:

[Ktulured55]

Hi, I am new to this forum but have lurked for about a month. Steven (or anyone else) is there any new news on 10 Inner Harbor? Any updates at all? On on thread someone said that is was approved a few weeks ago. But Emporis still has it as proposed, do you know why this is?

Furthermore, I think this thread hasn't been posted on in a bit because some of it's biggest "talkers" are banned? How did they get banned and can they ever come back? (they helped give good updates)

I'm really excited about this building, hopefully more talls will come after it.
:)

[Scoutthedog]

:previous: lol...I was wondering about how those guys got banned too,

Thank you, Ktulured55. :worship:

[HuskyMD3417]

10 Inner Harbor has not got the final approval.

[Ktulured55]

10 Inner Harbor has not got the final approval.


Dahhhh, yeah, didn't think so but someone in City compilations said it did. But from what it seems, it almost definately will get approved.... but not hearing anything for a while makes me think bad thoughts.:hell: I'd imagine it should be approved the very latest at the end of June. We need some input from Steven W, he seems to know a lot about it.

In the end though, I think it will get approved, it does nothing but add greatness to our good old Baltimore :D

[StevenW]

Dahhhh, yeah, didn't think so but someone in City compilations said it did. But from what it seems, it almost definately will get approved.... but not hearing anything for a while makes me think bad thoughts.:hell: I'd imagine it should be approved the very latest at the end of June. We need some input from Steven W, he seems to know a lot about it.

In the end though, I think it will get approved, it does nothing but add greatness to our good old Baltimore :D
Hey guys. What's all the fuss? :shrug:
10 Inner Harbor WILL HAPPEN. I've been back in forth with ARCWheeler on this and they are doing A LOT of behind-the-scenes stuff now. We have to be patient. Ground-breaking on this WILL HAPPEN but probably not until Spring of 2007. Maybe, MAYBE Fall of 2006. They have personally assured me that this tower will happen. And, it may grow TALLER! :tup: :yes: :tup:

I tell you guys what. This is a great site and all, but, (concerning Baltimore talk), WAY more people are on the www.skyscrapercity.com website forum for BALTIMORE development discussions. :tup:

[Ktulured55]

Awesome. I can not wait until we have a construction start date!!!! :D

[StevenW]

:previous: probably won't break ground untill sometime in 2007, I would imagine. :)

[HuskyMD3417]

2007 sucks :yuck: I really hope it breaks ground in 2006. :tup:

[Ktulured55]

I just looked on the ARC Wheeler site and it says that they won approval for 10 Inner Harbor.... Emporis still has it as proposed... maybe they dont' know yet? or they are awaiting the official approval?

Also... even though it seems pretty official to me... I guess the announcement hasn't been made public yet? :koko: Because I know when it is made, the announcement will easily be on every Baltimore news channel and the rendering will probably be on the front page of the Baltimore Sun... I haven't seen it or heard anything about it. So since it is even 'approved' on their site, when will the big Public announcement happen?

(and hopefully soon after that will be the construction start date ;) )

Oh yeah, how nice :yes: