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VA_Gentleman

Jun 4, 2007, 10:44 PM

There is a lot of talk about the short height of the floors. I think the major reason for the floor heights being only 10 feet high is more for the visual appearance of the building rather than a cheap developer. The unique design of the balconies, which form a fluid, organic surface would be lessened if there were less floors and therefore less balconies. The more balconies there are in a given area equals more variance in form.

Pandemonious

Jun 4, 2007, 11:01 PM

^I doubt that is the MAJOR reason for the floor heights. It is more economical to build at lower floor heights especially for a residential building. Your point about how that visually affects the undulating design of the balconies is well made though.

spyguy

Jun 5, 2007, 3:34 AM

http://midwest.construction.com/features/archive/0706_TS.asp

Aqua

Cost: $474 Million

A distinctive aesthetic design feature of 86-story Aqua mixed-use residential tower in Chicago will be the building's undulating waves of concrete.

The appearance of ripples will be achieved via the edge of every balcony, says Steve Wiley, chief estimator of Chicago-based James McHugh Construction Co., the contractor.

"Each edge or perimeter of every balcony is unique and different from the one above or below it," he says. "It will look like there was a fire in the building that randomly burned the patterns going up the face of the building."

Designers are working with glass and reflectivity to accentuate the appearance of wave shapes.

Given the unorthodox design feature, the typical issues of construction are being carefully thought through.

For instance, finding the best location and connecting the hoist will be challenging because of the varying geometry of the balcony edges.

The undulating design feature, however, will not have a bearing on the structure.

"It's a simple, rectangular structure, and the only thing 'moving' are the balcony edges themselves," Wiley says.

One Big Building

The 2.2 million-sq-ft building on Columbus Drive will hold 968 housing units-474 rental apartments, 264 condominiums, 225 hotel rooms and nine park houses.

Because of its size, Wiley says the building will require 31 rock caissons-footings socketed about 6 ft into the bedroom beneath Chicago. The project also calls for 223 traditional belled caissons.

In addition, the structure will rest on a 6-ft-thick concrete mat slab.

Due to the complexity of the project, elements that include the structure, mechanical system, electrical system and fire protection are being done design-build, Wiley says.

A podium will hold 1,300 parking spaces. The podium's lid will hold many of the building's amenities-running track, walking path, fire pits, whirlpools, lap pool and volleyball court. The building will hold two ballrooms.

Construction activity started in February and is expected to last until February 2010, Wiley says.

honte

Jun 5, 2007, 3:57 AM

"It will look like there was a fire in the building that randomly burned the patterns going up the face of the building."

:haha: Good thing he's not the architect's spokesman! Not quite as attractive as the erosion analogy.

djvandrake

Jun 5, 2007, 4:29 AM

:haha: Good thing he's not the architect's spokesman! Not quite as attractive as the erosion analogy.

My thoughts too. A very poor choice of words.

ardecila

Jun 5, 2007, 4:46 AM

Because of its size, Wiley says the building will require 31 rock caissons-footings socketed about 6 ft into the bedroom beneath Chicago. The project also calls for 223 traditional belled caissons.

Ummm..... ;)

Tom In Chicago

Jun 7, 2007, 6:14 PM

They're getting ready to put the first tower crane on the site. . .

Mojava

Jun 7, 2007, 9:54 PM

Does anyone know what the total square feet of the building is? Thanks.

Pandemonious

Jun 7, 2007, 10:14 PM

^The answer lies a whopping 5 posts above yours.

Mojava

Jun 7, 2007, 11:06 PM

oops, sorry bout that

APPRAISER

Jun 8, 2007, 1:37 AM

two crains for this one huh. must be because of the huge podium?

biophilic

Jun 8, 2007, 2:35 AM

They're starting to place some columns on the south east corner of the site. Will these be for the stairs going down to the park?

Horio

Jun 8, 2007, 2:46 AM

two crains for this one huh. must be because of the huge podium?

2 cranes for the podium and one for the tower. Word is that a crane may be on its way in the very near future.

honte

Jun 8, 2007, 3:21 AM

^ Hey Horio, thanks again for the great info. I appreciate all of the knowledge you contribute here.

When was the last time we saw a 3 tower-crane project in Chicago? This is going to be exciting.

Over in the MO thread, we are kicking around the discrepancy between the reported $474 Million figure for Aqua versus the $750M reported for Mandarin Oriental down the street. What are your thoughts on the difference? Does the figure for Aqua sound correct from what you know?

Alliance

Jun 8, 2007, 4:00 AM

low-end-burg?

3 cranes? *drool*

Jaroslaw

Jun 8, 2007, 5:07 AM

When was the last time we saw a 3 tower-crane project in Chicago? This is going to be exciting.

"Grand" Plaza had three cranes at one point... I was actually excited about that one... better not to remember.

honte

Jun 8, 2007, 6:24 AM

^ Ah, you're right. I had forgotten about that.

SolarWind

Jun 9, 2007, 12:00 AM

June 8, 2007

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/9290/dsc0135ip2.jpg

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/4382/dsc0146wq6.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3244/dsc0136dw1.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8821/dsc0141at9.jpg

APPRAISER

Jun 9, 2007, 1:09 AM

Nice photos SolarWind! I'm not very educated in highrise construction, but I take it those colums rest on top of cassions?

DHamp

Jun 9, 2007, 1:24 AM

A few more pics I took at the Aqua Site today:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/dhamp/Chicago%20Pix/DSC01653.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/dhamp/Chicago%20Pix/DSC01654.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/dhamp/Chicago%20Pix/DSC01655.jpg

aluminum

Jun 9, 2007, 4:38 AM

Will part of this building contain offices ?

honte

Jun 9, 2007, 5:18 AM

Nice photos SolarWind! I'm not very educated in highrise construction, but I take it those colums rest on top of cassions?

Very unlikely. Those appear to be pretty minor columns that will form part of the large podium. A deep foundation system would only be necessary in highly unusual conditions.

APPRAISER

Jun 9, 2007, 6:19 AM

Very unlikely. Those appear to be pretty minor columns that will form part of the large podium. A deep foundation system would only be necessary in highly unusual conditions.

I was wondering, do any cassions support the podium?

Nowhereman1280

Jun 9, 2007, 5:01 PM

Will part of this building contain offices ?

none...

There will be only a hotel, condos, and I think some retail or something in Aqua. I'm not even sure if there will be retail or not, if there is it will be under the building or something...

Marcu

Jun 10, 2007, 12:32 AM

none...

There will be only a hotel, condos, and I think some retail or something in Aqua. I'm not even sure if there will be retail or not, if there is it will be under the building or something...

From what I remember, I believe there are plans for a Bed Bath and Beyond, a Walgreens, and a Treasure Island or some other grocery store all with access to the pedway.

Nowhereman1280

Jun 10, 2007, 1:39 AM

Yeah that's what I thought I heard, underneath it as in the pedway... I love Chicago and our vast network of underground streets, pedestrian walk ways, and abandoned freight tunnels!

Horio

Jun 10, 2007, 2:16 AM

Horio

Jun 10, 2007, 2:21 AM

I was wondering, do any cassions support the podium?

The whole building sits on caissons including the podium. The podium ones do not go to the bedrock though.

Saber925

Jun 10, 2007, 2:28 AM

From what I remember, I believe there are plans for a Bed Bath and Beyond, a Walgreens, and a Treasure Island or some other grocery store all with access to the pedway.

The Treasure Island will be in the market center to be built just north of 340 OTP.

honte

Jun 10, 2007, 2:59 AM

The whole building sits on caissons including the podium. The podium ones do not go to the bedrock though.

OK, thanks for this info and for the other reply.

I guess I get myself into trouble because I only call foundations caissons if they go to bedrock. I call the others piers or piles, but I should just give it up! :D

biophilic

Jun 10, 2007, 11:32 PM

I guess I get myself into trouble because I only call foundations caissons if they go to bedrock. I call the others piers or piles, but I should just give it up! :D

A pile is certainly different than a pier or a caisson (driven vs. drilled), but i always thought that the term "pier" was used for larger drilled shafts and "caisson" was used for smaller drilled shafts. Of course i guess that means that the bigger stuff on Aqua would be called piers and everybody's been calling them caissons so i don't know...

oh, and i think a small portion of the podium will contain Loewenburg's new offices.

ardecila

Jun 11, 2007, 12:54 AM

Huh... some nice digs for Low-end-burg. I hope anybody coming to visit won't expect such architectural quality as a rule of thumb.

Alliance

Jun 11, 2007, 2:09 AM

hey, I'd throw my office in Aqua too...and a bedroom upstairs.

CGII

Jun 11, 2007, 4:32 AM

I just got back from Chicago and I have to say that LSE is really gonna kick some ass once it's filled in. I mean like, possibly making a new architectural focal point for the city. That is all.

SolarWind

Jun 15, 2007, 2:45 AM

June 14, 2007

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/586/dsc0040iv3.jpg

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8939/dsc0049copyjj4.jpg

Horio

Jun 15, 2007, 4:12 AM

Its almost mat time. Looks like the rebar has been delivered.

killaviews

Jun 19, 2007, 11:17 PM

A big red tower crane is up!

SolarWind

Jun 20, 2007, 12:26 AM

June 19, 2007

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2817/dsc0114ls5.jpg

aaron38

Jun 21, 2007, 6:09 AM

Podium columns from LSE park
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%206-20-07/26-Aqua.jpg

Overall site
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%206-20-07/30-Aquasite.jpg

Foundation
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%206-20-07/28-Aquafoundation.jpg

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r86/aaron38/Chicago%206-20-07/29-Aquafoundation.jpg

Untitled

Jun 23, 2007, 3:41 AM

Hello all. I must admit I haven't perused this thread as I did with the Spire, but I am anticipating this building almost as much and hope to be a regular reader from now on.

kalmia

Jun 23, 2007, 4:35 PM

Hello all. I must admit I haven't perused this thread as I did with the Spire, but I am anticipating this building almost as much and hope to be a regular reader from now on.

ok

Horio

Jun 26, 2007, 5:12 AM

Thanks for the great pictures guys, keep them coming.

pherek

Jun 27, 2007, 1:16 AM

Viewed from Upper Columbus Avenue

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3332/img2981kv9.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2232/img2978fc7.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8799/img2980iw5.jpg

Alliance

Jun 28, 2007, 12:17 AM

Its nice to see above grounds stuff.

Thanks for the pics :cool:

asheesh88

Jun 28, 2007, 4:11 AM

ardecila

Jun 28, 2007, 8:34 AM

No, it'll just go straight up. The basement will actually be ABOVE ground level, in the podium. The mechanical functions of the basement will be mixed with ballroom and convention space for the hotel, as well as substantial parking. The park side of the podium will be hidden with townhomes, avoiding a blank wall.

Untitled

Jul 1, 2007, 11:21 PM

*craving more construction photos*

biophilic

Jul 2, 2007, 12:28 PM

Will Aqua or its podium have a basement?

I guess what I am getting at is there any major excavation to be done on the site, or will it just go up from these pillars that are coming up now?

Thanks,

Asheesh

There will be a small bit of excavation (about 7 feet deep) directly under the tower portion for the mat foundation. Other than that, nothing.

ToBuyOrNotToBuy.....

Jul 4, 2007, 6:27 PM

Happy 4th, y'all............Sometime ago I saw a reference on here to one of the real estate sales organizations that put up a running list of all the still available units at Aqua.......now I can't seem to find it in the thread. Can anyone help me with the name of that outfit......it isn't the Aqua sales office or Magellan if I'm remembering correctly.......Thanks!

djvandrake

Jul 5, 2007, 3:08 AM

I just got back from Chicago. (I really didn't want to leave.)

My hotel was on the north side of the construction site, so I went a little crazy with the pics. Taken July 2nd-3rd.

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2315/aqua1ms3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4499/aqua2lu8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2491/aqua3qw0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9199/aqua4cn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1022/aqua5vs4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/5116/aqua6vs8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2161/aqua7gd5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4494/aqua8zk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2087/aqua9mb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

rastapunk8

Jul 5, 2007, 6:05 AM

Where exactly is this project and this park? I don't know guys, from the looks of every photo I am seeing this park is surrounded by giant blank walls that don't look to friendly for such a public space. Whats the deal with these walls in the other buildings? Are other buildings supposed to be built next to them and touch and cover the unsightliness?

I'm sorry but from what I can tell this area looks kind of bland. Please tell me I just have it all wrong, because I love Chicago...

honte

Jul 5, 2007, 7:12 AM

^ The blank walls you are seeing will be covered by other buildings - townhouses, a market, a school, some other towers, etc. Don't worry - blank walls in this part of town have a limited number of days left to live.

rastapunk8

Jul 5, 2007, 1:41 PM

Thank jesus.

So when is this area supposed to be built out completely?

Fabb

Jul 5, 2007, 4:52 PM

^^^The red truck is like a toy. The site must be huge...

djvandrake

Jul 5, 2007, 5:11 PM

^^^The red truck is like a toy. The site must be huge...

Yeah. Look at the size of the caisson compared to the man inside the ring of rebar. The thing has to be 2 1/2 meters in diameter, and the rebar is as big as the workers arm. This podium site is several hundred feet wide.

honte

Jul 5, 2007, 5:51 PM

^ Yeah, I was just going to comment on the amazing girth of that threaded bar. I was looking at it in person, but not until your shot did I realize how massive it really is.

rastapunk8, no time table has been set (to my knowledge) for full build-out. The next tower in this development is going to take at least until 2010 to build, and they still have several sites left after that, so it could be a while. However, the townhomes and the market will be completed much sooner than that, so your concern about the park will be addressed.

harryc

Jul 5, 2007, 8:00 PM

Aaron38 what are the red lines in your photos ? they look to have been added after the picture was taken.

Thanks to all for the fantastic photos, I was just across the street 2 nights ago at the fireworks and didn't even notice this.

With no basement the main caissons still go down to LimeStone - right ?

aaron38

Jul 5, 2007, 10:38 PM

Aaron38 what are the red lines in your photos ? they look to have been added after the picture was taken.

I did zero manipulation to my photos. I think the lines just look weird cause those shots were taken at dusk, and in the low light the red color popped out more.

But the red lines are in Djvandrake's pictures as well. As for purpose I don't know, but they seem to be excavating inside the lines.

BVictor1

Jul 5, 2007, 10:59 PM

I did zero manipulation to my photos. I think the lines just look weird cause those shots were taken at dusk, and in the low light the red color popped out more.

But the red lines are in Djvandrake's pictures as well. As for purpose I don't know, but they seem to be excavating inside the lines.

The red lines are to rope off the site. Like at a crime sceene they use yelow tape, here they use red :)

Horio

Jul 6, 2007, 3:45 AM

Yeah. Look at the size of the caisson compared to the man inside the ring of rebar. The thing has to be 2 1/2 meters in diameter, and the rebar is as big as the workers arm. This podium site is several hundred feet wide.

The big caissons are 10' in diameter and the threaded bars are #20 bars (about 2.5" in diameter). I've seen them up close and they are massive.

Untitled

Jul 6, 2007, 4:30 AM

Awesome photos. Glad to see 'em.

cbotnyse

Jul 6, 2007, 4:36 AM

djvandrake, you didn't take enough!!! great shots....so is the foundation done? It looks like we are above ground on this already. Am I way off?

Horio

Jul 6, 2007, 5:17 AM

Though this picture might help give you an idea how big this site is (notice that it doesn't actually fit in this picture still).

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/6117/aqua0702071vq1.jpg

And here's a close up of those bars (this is one of the smaller caissons for the tower).

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/6268/aqua05180704ff6.jpg

honte

Jul 6, 2007, 6:06 AM

Very cool, Horio! Thanks. Please keep those coming (and your insightful posts).

Horio

Jul 6, 2007, 6:20 AM

djvandrake, you didn't take enough!!! great shots....so is the foundation done? It looks like we are above ground on this already. Am I way off?

This project is going to be all over the place as far progress goes. You will have parts of the site which will have several levels built before other parts even have grade beams. Watch for the tower to jump ahead of everything else (starting in the near future).

djvandrake

Jul 6, 2007, 11:05 AM

djvandrake, you didn't take enough!!! great shots....so is the foundation done? It looks like we are above ground on this already. Am I way off?

Basically, yes. I think Horio is very correct that because of the podium were going to see uneven levels of progress. They don't have to do a lot of excavating on this one though, so progress should be vertical from here. :tup:

Hey Horio, was that overview picture from inside the BCBS building? Great shot.

jjk1103

Jul 6, 2007, 2:28 PM

.....it appears that they drilled the caissons .....and then buried them ? ...I've been over to the site and you can see them digging out the caissons...one by one.....

BVictor1

Jul 6, 2007, 5:01 PM

.....it appears that they drilled the caissons .....and then buried them ? ...I've been over to the site and you can see them digging out the caissons...one by one.....

Caissons come up as far as the lowest level, after that they turn into columns. Like with Waterview and Trump. That's also why it take longer to get to the tops of some caissons than others.

Horio

Jul 7, 2007, 1:57 AM

Basically, yes. I think Horio is very correct that because of the podium were going to see uneven levels of progress. They don't have to do a lot of excavating on this one though, so progress should be vertical from here. :tup:

Hey Horio, was that overview picture from inside the BCBS building? Great shot.

That picture was taken from the roof of BCBS. Gives a pretty nice aerial view.

SolarWind

Jul 9, 2007, 1:01 AM

July 6, 2007

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6928/aquayj9.jpg

newstl2020

Jul 9, 2007, 1:22 AM

Can anyone explain why they did not simply leave the caissons at grade once they were completed? To me this seems like a very impractical way to do cassion/foundation mat construction.

itsnotrequired

Jul 9, 2007, 12:31 PM

Can anyone explain why they did not simply leave the caissons at grade once they were completed? To me this seems like a very impractical way to do cassion/foundation mat construction.

By burying them, it allows excavation/cassion rigs to move around pretty much wherever they want. Their mobility would be greatly restricted if they were left exposed.

BVictor1

Jul 9, 2007, 7:16 PM

Can anyone explain why they did not simply leave the caissons at grade once they were completed? To me this seems like a very impractical way to do cassion/foundation mat construction.

Caissons come up to the lowest point of excavation for that particular area. If a building is going to have 3 levels underground, they wouldn't have caissons come all the way to the surface because they would be in the way.

It's all structural.

newstl2020

Jul 9, 2007, 7:55 PM

I understand all that, I was just curious as to why they would not have completed all excavation and other site prep work before drilling caissons. The only reason that I can think of why they would have done it this way would be scheduling conflicts with the contractors doing the work? I have not been following construction for that long, really only in the past year, but it would just seem easier to get all the site work done before drilling caissons.

Ryan81

Jul 9, 2007, 9:02 PM

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet.....

http://www.studiogang.net/site/projects_c1.htm

BVictor1

Jul 9, 2007, 9:18 PM

Tom Servo

Jul 9, 2007, 9:27 PM

::male::male:

wrab

Jul 9, 2007, 9:37 PM

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet.....

http://www.studiogang.net/site/projects_c1.htm

Great video presentation! Thanks for posting.

jjk1103

Jul 10, 2007, 5:22 AM

...ok, so maybe I'm ignorant.....but can someone tell me why this building isn't getting a reinforced concrete "mat" like other buildings (ie:Trump) ?

newstl2020

Jul 10, 2007, 8:33 PM

Thanks Vic! and with regards to above, it looks as though they might be getting ready to start on a mat. Anybody have any for sure info?

FastFerrari82

Jul 10, 2007, 8:48 PM

can someone tell me wats going on in chicago?...im mean they are building condos like there no tomarrow...are more and more people moving to the area or do they want to live in the downtown area....just curious...either way makes the skyline grow and lets us watch...:yes:

FastFerrari82

Jul 10, 2007, 8:50 PM

Alliance

Jul 11, 2007, 2:27 AM

There is no tomorrow. Haven't you heard?

People are moing back to the city, but I don't know if they're mostly from the burbs or from elsewhere.

Horio

Jul 11, 2007, 5:23 AM

...ok, so maybe I'm ignorant.....but can someone tell me why this building isn't getting a reinforced concrete "mat" like other buildings (ie:Trump) ?

This building is getting a mat for the tower. In fact, its supposed to be poured next week.

Hey can someone go take a picture of the site? I've been told the decking/formwork for the first above ground slab is going up. Thanks!

SolarWind

Jul 12, 2007, 1:50 AM

July 11, 2007

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6498/aqua2vi5.jpg

Nowhereman1280

Jul 12, 2007, 1:52 AM

^ Nice pic Solar

So Horio, is that rectangle shown in Solar's pic where the tower is going to go? Or is that just more of the podium?

Saber925

Jul 12, 2007, 2:28 AM

That is the location of the tower.

Alliance

Jul 12, 2007, 2:29 AM

I still can't get over how huge those cassions are...I could fit my extended family inside of one.

ahdude27

Jul 12, 2007, 4:44 AM

is that the entire foot print of the tower??? if someone has already asked just give me a post # to refer to. i dont know if its the perspective of the picture it just seems so small and more square and less rectangular. IMO.

Dr. Taco

Jul 12, 2007, 4:50 AM

^ well, friend, I don't really think that footprint is that small. for perspective, that caison in the foreground corner is probably about the size of a king-size bed, or bigger

DePaul Bunyan

Jul 12, 2007, 6:14 AM

July 11, 2007

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6498/aqua2vi5.jpg

Will the tower crane go into that hole in the middle?

APPRAISER

Jul 12, 2007, 6:50 AM

July 11, 2007

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6498/aqua2vi5.jpg

Hey guys, I know that the podium goes over that "power station", or what ever it is, but in this picture.... does anyone know were the core is located?

Alliance

Jul 12, 2007, 8:06 AM

Its in the general area shown in the picture...the tower is situatied to the left side of the podium when looking from this angle.

jjk1103

Jul 13, 2007, 9:05 PM

....I was over at the site this afternoon.....the mat is really moving fast !! ...if anyone has a camera ...it will make for some great pics.....

Jaroslaw

Jul 14, 2007, 2:03 AM

Will the tower crane go into that hole in the middle?

Those holes are for the elevator core springs (if the elevator falls down). The four little boxes at the top right of the mat area are likely for the crane legs.

cbotnyse

Jul 14, 2007, 2:53 AM

I really cant wait for this one. I think it is the most underrated of all the new construction in Chicago.

LoyolaBeachView

Jul 14, 2007, 3:18 AM

I really cant wait for this one. I think it is the most underrated of all the new construction in Chicago.

Well, I'm not so sure about that. When this project was announced, we all went ape shit. I understand your point though. I think if CS wasn't sapping all the energy from us Chicagoans, you'd see a lot more posts here. Believe me, we are all anxiously awaiting the emergence of this masterpiece (I hope I didn't speak to soon). What makes this building so great is that it's designed by a Chicagoan, and therefore, it represents the well of local talent we have. The Reader ran a story about Aqua ushering in the "Third School" of Chicago architecture. My fingers are crossed. I heart Jeanne Gang.

APPRAISER

Jul 14, 2007, 4:25 AM

I really cant wait for this one. I think it is the most underrated of all the new construction in Chicago.

No! I agree!! There is no other building in the world that looks like AQUA!
This is the first of its kind for design.
The CS is a twisty building, but there have been other buildings in the world that have a twist to them!
The only thing the Spire has it height with a twist.
I respect other peoples opinion, but this building, "IS" one of a kind.