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Vaillant Oct 27, 2011 9:23 PM

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Originally Posted by drizzo_613 (Post 5458688)
^^
Are those metro area numbers? like GTA for instance. Just curious

i think it's only the city at least for Montreal is only the island of Montreal

vid Oct 28, 2011 1:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick (Post 5458530)
Of course you can "compare" Windsor and Detroit- in fact it's absolutely enlightening and even essential at understanding the vital differences between the US and Canada, particularly to shut up the morons who insist that the two countries are the same. Detroit and Windsor have a lot in common and anybody who insists that crime in the US is about class and not race has to confront the examples of both cities. Race, racism, and race politics are the Leitmotifs of American history and Detroit vs Windsor is a great opportunity to witness that history- and the history of Canada too.

If you're focusing on racial issues, a better comparison would be Detroit vs. the Central/West Canadian cities with large aboriginal populations.

JuelzJones Oct 28, 2011 4:09 AM

Toronto is at 40, looks like Toronto could end up with a record low since the early 80's.

Rusty van Reddick Oct 28, 2011 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vid (Post 5459297)
If you're focusing on racial issues, a better comparison would be Detroit vs. the Central/West Canadian cities with large aboriginal populations.

None of which have murder rates remotely near Detroit's.

caltrane74 Oct 28, 2011 6:45 PM

Ottawa is so gangsta! _ It's still blowing my mind away.

Blitz Oct 28, 2011 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick (Post 5458530)
Of course you can "compare" Windsor and Detroit- in fact it's absolutely enlightening and even essential at understanding the vital differences between the US and Canada, particularly to shut up the morons who insist that the two countries are the same. Detroit and Windsor have a lot in common and anybody who insists that crime in the US is about class and not race has to confront the examples of both cities. Race, racism, and race politics are the Leitmotifs of American history and Detroit vs Windsor is a great opportunity to witness that history- and the history of Canada too. You can and should "compare" Detroit proper to the murder rates of its vastly white suburbs. Windsor isn't monolithically white but the richest of Detroit's suburbs are. We learn nothing about murder without confronting and problematizing these comparisons.

And yes there are very few murders in El Paso- it's one of the lowest rates in the Americas among major cities in fact- but DOZENS of El PaseƱos are murdered in Juarez. Very different situation from that in Windsor.


That's a different way of looking at it but either way, it's a weird situation.....

If you only compare Detroit to US cities, it nearly has the highest rate. If you only compare Windsor to Canadian cities, it has the lowest rate. So what are the odds that those two rates would be found in cities located 1 km apart? It's the same situation in Juarez/El Paso, it's just strange when you think about it.

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Impressive in that 5 of the top 10 safest towns in all of Canada were in Essex County alone (which is very impressive). The fact that our neighbour Detroit is so close is secondary.
It's definitely great news, and there's no real explanation for that either. But it's something that metro Windsor can use to keep luring those retirees!

People on SSP are more educated but the average Canadian still has inaccurate preconceived notions about Windsor just because of our neighbour. Any news like this helps.

vid Oct 28, 2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty van Reddick (Post 5460159)
None of which have murder rates remotely near Detroit's.

They're still high compared to other Canadian cities, just like Detroit's is high compared to other American cities.

chrisallard5454 Oct 30, 2011 5:07 AM

Man Shot in the Exchange District at 2am. This shooting ends a really impressive streak for any city in terms of length without a homicide. Winnipeg's last homicide was over a month ago. But unfortunately this brings us one closer to tying our record for homicides in a year. And with a man lying in critical condition after a shooting on Selkirk it isn't looking good.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Total (Pop. 17 400) = 8

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 2
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 3
Total (Pop. 5080) = 8

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Total (Pop. 27 335) = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 2 360) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 33
Winnipeg (2010) = 21
Winnipeg (2009) = 25

Wharn Oct 30, 2011 5:47 PM

London stands at 1.8 per 100,000 for 2010. If Windsor can do zero we ought to be able to as well. Last year and this year there have also been plenty of violent crimes, including one where a couple of people were beaten on Thanksgiving and left for dead in the city's East End. Windsorites have had just as hard a time as Londoners, so high unemployment rates are no excuse, these are just scum with no civic pride.

Here is a handy map from the Glob&Fail, forgive me if it's a repost. Note that Nunavut has the highest crime rate in the country:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2214149/

Marty_Mcfly Oct 30, 2011 7:07 PM

The population is so low in Nunavut, any amount of crime is going to put the crime rate per capita through the roof.

St. John's homicide rate is probably sitting somewhere around 1.5 per 100,000 people at the moment, the second highest on record, though still quite low. A close call last week with a drug shooting downtown, would have been the fourth homicide of the year.

rrskylar Oct 31, 2011 4:14 AM

Winnipeg now at a record 34 (tied with 2004).

vid Nov 1, 2011 2:23 AM

Thunder Bay is now at three. This is half of the rate in 2009 but still above average. I don't know stats for the region but it is lower than previous years. (It was 12 / 250,000 in 2009.)

It occurred in a social housing development, the victim (21) and the accused (22) were friends who had been drinking on Saturday and somehow got into a fight that led to injuries resulting in death on Sunday night.

Also, the first homicide of this year, involving four youths (one who has since died in jail) who killed a 54 year old man in January, has hit a snag as one of the suspects seeks a new lawyer.

After my uncle was killed several years ago, it took about two years for the murder trial to work its way through the courts. We recently wrapped up a murder trial involving a murder that happened in the 1990s...

devonb Nov 1, 2011 2:32 AM

Calgary had its seventh homicide this last weekend.

chrisallard5454 Nov 1, 2011 12:14 PM

Winnipeg Reaches Record high with North End Shooting at McPhillips Hotel. This puts the city at 34 homicides this year. This is the second shooting death in two days. One shooting death in The North End on Saturday, and one on Sunday. That is also three shootings in two days, two of which in the North End. as one man still lies in critical condition, from a Lord Selkirk Park Shooting.

Map of Homicides:
http://www.cbc.ca/manitoba/features/homicides/

Note that the majority of the killings occur in one region of the city. While three quarters of the map is virtually homicide free.

Neighbourhood Perspective:

North End:
Lord Selkirk Park (Pop. 1 365) = 3
William Whyte (Pop. 6 220) = 2
Dufferin (Pop. 2 090) = 1
St. Johns (Pop. 7 725) = 2
Robertson (Pop. 4 205) = 1
Total (Pop. 21 605) = 9

North Central Winnipeg:
North Point Douglas (Pop. 2 225) = 7
Centennial (Pop. 2 225) = 1
Total (Pop. 4 450) = 8

Downtown:
Portage-Ellice (Pop 1 105) = 3
Central Park (Pop 3 555) = 2
Exchange Dist. (Pop 420) = 3
Total (Pop. 5080) = 8

South Winnipeg:
River-Osbourne (Pop. 4 880) = 2
Fort Richmond (Pop. 11 610) = 1
Munroe East (Pop 8 460) = 1
Niakwa Place (Pop. 2 385) = 1
Total (Pop. 27 335) = 5

West End:
Daniel Mcintyre (Pop. 9 750) = 2
St. Mathews (Pop. 5 575) = 1
Total (Pop. 15 325) = 3

North East Winnipeg:
Beaumont (Pop. 2 360) = 1
Total (Pop. 2 360) = 1

This date:
Winnipeg (Pop. 693 200) = 34
Winnipeg (2010) = 21
Winnipeg (2009) = 25

rapid_business Nov 1, 2011 2:05 PM

/\ Sure. Just like the majority of social assistance services can be found in one area of a city. It isn't really much to say it is restricted to one geographic area. Yes it means less affluent people are killing each other, but that is a pretty general stat across the board in Canadian cities.

Acajack Nov 1, 2011 2:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly (Post 5461835)
The population is so low in Nunavut, any amount of crime is going to put the crime rate per capita through the roof.

Yes and no. Many very small communities in Nunavut have a lot of social problems and can be violent. Nunavut pretty consistently has between 4 and 6 murders a year for a population of 33,000. It's not really a case like when you have the first murder in 50 years in a small town and it puts its per capita murder rate through the roof for that single year.

PEI has 140,000 people and consistently reports 0, 1 or 2 murders per year.

NL has 500,000 people and murders are typically much less than 10, usually less than 5 and some years there are none.

MTLskyline Nov 4, 2011 11:15 PM

A double-homicide in Longueuil early this morning. #3 and #4 if I am not mistaken.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=MontrealHome

MTLskyline Nov 8, 2011 11:52 PM

Two men were found dead in apartment above a strip club in Longueuil... Their deaths are being treated as suspicious.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/lo...b=MontrealHome

http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/ph...bodies-620.jpg
(google streetview)

vid Nov 9, 2011 2:30 AM

Wow, I thought the strip club in Thunder Bay was dumpy...

PhilippeMtl Nov 11, 2011 1:21 AM

Longueuil agglomeration ( Pop: 403 000) is now at 6

(http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/societe/arc...10-174442.html)

All of them happened in Old Longueuil borough except the one in Brossard earlier this summer


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