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Ch.G, Ch.G Jul 11, 2010 1:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowhereman1280 (Post 4867729)
Yeah, I was gonna say...

I'm not surprised it went over certain people's heads. This thread is hardly intellectual.

Hed Kandi Jul 11, 2010 4:04 PM

Buddha Tooth Relic Temple - Singapore, Singapore

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/...bab52d4a_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/martin_kaftan/2775466761/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3436/...f4743c57_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmam/3899459398/

Hed Kandi Jul 11, 2010 4:29 PM

St. John The Baptist Church - Bethany, Palestine

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2788/...28989930_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jenniferjlewis/4417626229/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2325/...d446b62c_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/manuelezunelli/2172056080/

Hed Kandi Jul 12, 2010 12:00 AM

Church of St. George - Samara, Russia

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/97/21...7ac61e27_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/susandray/212562897/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2492/...c8c05718_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/radzhi/4074312557/

JHoward88 Jul 12, 2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cirrus (Post 4863191)
I am totally serious. Art is part of architecture, but architecture is not art. That difference is absolutely essential.

I suggest that existence is itself a form of artistic expression. Thus even the simplest housing constructed for the sole purpose of protecting its inhabitant from the elements is reflective of rational philosophy.

Anything that employs the process of changing matter from one form into a more advanced form is art. Inasmuch as our existence is itself an ongoing phase of evolution and gradual progressive change, we and all that we do, including architecture, is art. The two cannot be separated.

Cirrus Jul 12, 2010 8:57 PM

This thread is *full* of temples and other grand buildings. I think it would be better with some more everyday buildings.

Quote:

I suggest that existence is itself a form of artistic expression.
I don't necessarily disagree if we're being philosophical, but what does that mean in practice, when it comes time to actually design something? I think it is a major problem that the architecture profession is more interested in waxing poetic than in designing attractive and functional (and functionally urban) buildings. Whatever deeper meanings are imparted in buildings are absolutely meaningless if the building fails.

Hed Kandi Jul 12, 2010 11:42 PM

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spyguy Jul 13, 2010 4:15 PM

65 East Goethe - the only Lagrange building that actually came out well.

All photos from Lucien Lagrange:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2...7115090538.jpg
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7175/99017140.jpg
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9391/99017117.jpg

RLS_rls Jul 13, 2010 5:59 PM

^Well those are nice windows at least.

Cirrus Jul 13, 2010 6:32 PM

^^
I think that's an interesting example that is worth posting.

To really qualify it would need better detailing and a different material for the cap, but nonetheless I think it's an attractive building.

LSyd Jul 15, 2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jens (Post 4859268)
Tianjin Concert Hall, China

Tianjin Concert Hall is a new 650-seater concert hall built in a pastiche of classical European style in the heart of the city. It's located next to the Xiaobailou subway station on Line One and has limited underground parking. There are a number of restaurants, bars and cafes nearby.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3358/...00d928dd67.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wmbenson/3519152165/

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/...acc45559f1.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chineseemma319/4200198636/

http://www.tianjinexpats.com/images/...1260869404.jpg
http://www.tianjinexpats.com/event-list/venueevents/894-tianjin-concert-hall/archive

whoa, good find. it looks like a state capitol.

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Lecom Jul 15, 2010 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch.G, Ch.G (Post 4851634)
Unfortunately. :(

Yale has an amazing architectural tradition, but the most recent residential colleges, Morse and Ezra Stiles, both designed by Eero Saarinen in a then ostensibly "progressive" style, weren't (and continue to not be) very well-received by students. The university has been much more conservative with many of its newer buildings (as opposed to, say, the University of Chicago, a peer institution which continues to push for truly progressive design). These new residential colleges unfortunately continue that vein. Even with Bob Stern at the helm of their design, I have a hard time envisioning them as anything more than simulacra of American collegiate gothic, which is already something of a simulacrum itself.

Every building is a simulacrum of some previous precedent, at least in some way. There's no shame in that, as styles and construction can't be fundamentally reinvented every single time a building goes up. What matters is whether the design is well done, with attention to detail and overall workability. If that is accomplished, why would emulating an old style be a problem?

vandelay Jul 15, 2010 9:09 PM

535 West End ave. came out pretty well for a Lagrange. Not great, but pretty well:

http://curbed.com/uploads/2010_3_535wea.jpg

vandelay Jul 15, 2010 9:17 PM

Also, just for the hell of it, here's Takashimaya in NYC:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/...8ba5558f_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2012/...b3d_z.jpg?zz=1

Soon to be turned into this:

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/i...0711164804.jpg

Cirrus Jul 15, 2010 10:13 PM

^
You know, the base of that building isn't bad. The first 5 floors or so are actually quite good. But that shaft is just terrible. Horribly, horribly out of proportion.

In any event, I think it's too po-mo to qualify.

photoLith Jul 17, 2010 9:11 PM

Some new buildings at Hendrix College in Conway Arkansas.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2715/...b022a9d9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/...f21942d5_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/...3d3ab640_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2712/...b9e3b19e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/...5141cd11_b.jpg

Photos by me.

mthq Jul 17, 2010 10:57 PM

The base of that building starts out nice, but like Cirrus said, past the first few floors the building just goes straight to hell. It's quite awful, really.

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Originally Posted by vandelay (Post 4913688)


brian.odonnell20 Jul 18, 2010 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cirrus (Post 4909402)
This thread is *full* of temples and other grand buildings. I think it would be better with some more everyday buildings.

I don't necessarily disagree if we're being philosophical, but what does that mean in practice, when it comes time to actually design something? I think it is a major problem that the architecture profession is more interested in waxing poetic than in designing attractive and functional (and functionally urban) buildings. Whatever deeper meanings are imparted in buildings are absolutely meaningless if the building fails.

I totally agree with you on that. Architecture today is unfortunately based around the notion of expression and deeper meanings first, before an actually aesthetically pleasing design and style that actually works, which is wrong. If I were to design a building today, I would choose a style that works for the area, for instance art deco for new york, and try to bring originality and meaning to it from there as the next step.

Acco Jul 18, 2010 3:13 PM

I stumbled upon these pictures of Beirut (Lebanon). Quite amazing
Courtesy of P Donovan
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http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...kheir/B1-1.jpg

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courtesy of joya
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Courtesy of Rana T:
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...kheir/mosq.jpg

Courtesy of Nassim Ghandour:

http://i35.tinypic.com/20jmq9i.jpg

AUB (Clock Tower)
Courtesy of Ianwar horizon
>>> Scroll right
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3481/...dd11e0b0_o.jpg

Courtesy of haitham
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courtesy of RAA
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Solidere
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Busy Bee Jul 18, 2010 5:01 PM

Beirut is looking beautiful. Like Paris ;)


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