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Give us the tax break and we will do our plan, save the important part of the structure. Don't and we will tear down the whole thing and sit on it until we sell it or develop later. |
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That happened rather suddenly...
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The developer promised the community no action was imminent. They promised they'd meet w/ the community to discuss potential compromises on Monday the 18th. They lied, they're shitheads, fuck them.
Its likely they won't get a GPLET now as people will be pissed, then they'll just flatten the rest of the block, sit on it, and try to flip it for a profit down the road. This developer has no track record of building things at the scale they're proposing. There's been fear all along that this was never a real proposal but rather just an attempt to clear the lot and re-sell it in a few years when value goes up. It seems that fear is coming true now. |
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Now the preservationists will probably be pissy, will fight the GPLET, and essentially be responsible for the entire destruction of the building they wanted to save. |
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Here's what actually happened: They developers showed their renderings which only keeps a stub of the 1947 building remaining. The community is concerned and reaches out. The developers come to the RAA and DVC meetings to talk, and set up a tour of the building on April 11th. They tell the community even though they've pulled a demo permit, no action is imminent and they'll talk w/ the community again on April 18th about a plan going forward. Today they begin to demolish the majority of the building, per their original plans. ----------------------------------- Which part of that is a 'compromise'? They're just doing what they've planned to do from the start. They said they'd make a 'good faith effort' to work with the community. The community was open to an actual compromise that would let some of the building go and preserve some too, all while getting the developer their GPLET. Now the developer has lied and is just demolishing it before the meeting that they fucking proposed with the community. |
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"leave the deserted building that I liked when I was a child" Please, I wish they would tear it down and begin construction now. I know this isn't a popular opinion I just really don't get the obsession with an average building at best. |
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Further, what about the fact that they promised no action on the building until after the 18th? Are you OK w/ people saying they'll do one thing and then they do the opposite? The community didn't "get greedy" because the community didn't even ask for anything yet. That was what the Monday meeting was to be about, figuring out a compromise. |
From saving nothing to saving what they have shown now, that's the compromise they made after the first meeting with the community. Do YOU know what compromise means? Don't be a little bitch about it, geez. Be realistic instead of idealistic. I hope you don't cause the demo of the rest of the building.
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The Horror!!! The Horror!! you should be happy they even bother to get community input at all. |
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The developer doing what they originally proposed, after they said they'd wait, is not a compromise. I feel like you're trying to gaslight me b/c what you're saying makes zero sense. At least the Mayor gets it: My statement in response to developers starting demolition earlier today of the Stewart Motor Company (Circles) Building on Central Avenue and McKinley Street: “I am angry that in the middle of negotiating a plan to save the iconic Stewart Motor Company building, the developer began demolition. After my office participated in discussions between the developer and neighborhood leaders, I was confident that a resolution would be found. However, sadly, it appears that the developer was acting in bad faith.” BACKGROUND: The City’s Community and Economic Development Department was in the middle of discussions with the developer, Empire Group. Some of the agreed terms of the discussion stated that the developer would not demolish or remove any portion of the existing building on the Site prior to submitting for construction permits. Empire has plans to build a 19-story apartment building on the 1.24-acre site. |
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This is how the world works. |
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but besides, as I have made no bones about, I think the circles building and the hysteria around it is completely stupid. To bad it wasn't demolished YEARS AGO:slob: |
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No, I'm serious Hoover. Their plans came out after their first meeting. This building and project is likely a goner now and I'm putting very little on the developer. To me it sounds like bending over backward for the developer is more painful to you than losing the building. Perhaps the GPLET should have been given to save even the small corner of the building like they were proposing if it's so important. That's what we could get, that's all. They started doing the demo not in good faith, but that's their prerogative. The "community" (quotes because I'm sure not everyone was taking such a hard line) seems to have had much less leverage than they thought with the GPLET. Don't want to give them one? Fine, They probably have a backup plan. But your hard line will probably cause the loss of the building. |
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