It's all just personal preference. I would disagree that parks are dead zones. I love the park at PNC Three and the PPG courtyard, while somewhat sterile, is heavily used and not dead in the slightest. The canyon created by the Frank & Seder building and Kaufmans seems dark and dingy to me.
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Market Square is already a great space I can see, but consider it...between the already-complete Three PNC Plaza, the new PNC tower, the new development on the south side of Forbes which is a stone's throw away, and now this potential 30-story building directly behind (from the square) PNC's future tower..... the eastern backdrop of Market Square will be unrecognizable in the best way. :cheers:
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Nobody likes the infamous 1980s "wind swept plazas". There's not too many in Pittsburgh though. New York has a shit load of them.
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Interestingly, I would agree the triangle park outside Three PNC is a nice open space, but of course it has been designed like a separate parcel and not as an entryway to Three PNC: http://www.wgpaver.com/files/Image/b...acre-greer.JPG Conversely, the plaza outside One PNC is horrible, and a great example of how these often subtract from the local streetscape: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...adquarters.jpg If you could assure me we would be getting a cool, well-designed pocket park along Smithfield, and not a horrible entry plaza, then it could be an idea worth exploring. The problem is that even today, when the principles of good streetscape design are well known, the odds are against you. Quote:
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No doubt, I eagerly await the announcement to come later on this afternoon about the tower proposal! In general though, I couldn't be happier with the continued improvement I've seen in downtown, even in the measly one year I've been in Pittsburgh! :yes:
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And yeah, the streetscape around the Frank & Seder Bldg feels dark and dingy right now because the Frank & Seder Bldg. is dark and dingy -- its filthy. Also, the Lord & Taylor (old Mellon Bank Bldg.) across the intersection still sits vacant and the Park Bldg. across Fifth is also dirty, was altered beyond repair, and its use is very low quality. Maybe we should tear those down too? Get rid of that old stuff altogether... and when Macy's finally pulls completely out of downtown, we can raze that sucker too. The Mellon Bank/L&T building is nothing unique at all -- pretty much the standard 4 story granite bank building from the 1920s that you can pretty much see in just about any older major city. And the 1896 Park Building -- well, it was "renovated" in the 1960s Retardation Style, thus destroying its architectural value... so no loss there. The sculptures at the top are cool, but you can't really see them from the street anyway. Maybe they could be incorporated into a nice plaza across the street from a new 30-story "skyscraper"! |
from the trib's website, all I could find so far:
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"Active Development" = Schematic phase of design; very preliminary budget, decide if they 1) want to build a whole new tower, or 2) renovate an existing building, find a tenant, come up with conceptual drawings. This is proposed for the fourth quarter of this year.
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Yeah, and it's a heck of an ugly rendering! :yes: I hope this is more of a massing model than an actual proposal!
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Ugh. What a dud. It does look pretty preliminary though, so I will give Oxford the benefit of the doubt.
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Some intern was told this morning, "quick, put something together in sketchup for today's announcement."
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