I know its alittle old, but here's an overhead picture of the Mac Urban project I toke from my buildings roof on Wednesday 7/13...
https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8727/2...ea2dd57a_o.jpgIMG_1505 by David Chacon, on Flickr |
Thanks for the contribution!
But is it possible to resize the image? It's pretty large. |
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Renderings revealed for nine-story Arts District office building
Lowe Enterprises, Humphreys & Partners Architects. 90,700 sf of office, 6,100 sf retail. http://urbanize.la/sites/default/fil...?itok=sV2d6fSG |
I had to look at the location before commenting on the design. Not a big fan of the parking podium, and in any other location, I would be a very vocal dissenter, but given the location, I can begrudgingly accept this one.
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^^^ I'm with you on that one. The other day I told King Kill'em that its rare to see a 7 story sitting on a podium but jesus, a 4-5 story sitting on a 5 story podium. Somebody Help us.
That being said. IF this was put ANYWHERE else, I would be raising the pitchforks and torches. BUT. looking at an aerial view of the area. I'll accept it. Its literally a tear down building. When the Arts District gets a little more busy and the area around the River gets a little more valuable (if we ever get the River revitalization off the ground) I am willing to bet that this one gets torn down quickly for something better. What's interesting is the fact that the podium is wrapped with signage. I wonder if the arts district will be allowed to have the same billboards/signage as fig ? |
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We need less pitchforks, and more people willing to support additional housing across the metro area in whatever form it takes. This may be an urbanist forum, but before pedestrian activation, filling holes in the skyline, and banning stucco, the housing shortfall takes precedence. Housing is the crisis that is exacting a substantial human toll on the people of Southern California. My two cents. |
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you couldn't be more right. Also, do not forget to mention that the continuation of a chronic housing shortage will also create a devastating economic toll. And without a viable economy, all the urban, architectural and design interests of the forumers (however meaningful) will be moot. |
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We're losing jobs, and the reality is that's never going to stop. In fact it will likely speed up with wage & tax increases. |
I may be late in this realization, but hey, I'm nothing if not slow. ;) Regardless, I was hoping to have a discussion on two points:
A. It seems that so long as downtown development is regulated to have adequate parking, we will not see infills in all the small lots throughout the neighborhood (I'm looking at you SE corner of 4th and Hill, 639 Olive, 735 Hill, 220 Broadway, all the remainders along Spring, etc. etc.) These lots cannot reasonably fit parking podiums, and deep underground construction is simply too costly. This cycle of development is bound by parking regulations and thus is bound to large empty lots that can accommodate massive podiums. Infills may have to wait for changed building codes. B. We talk a lot about "this cycle" and "the next cycle" of development in downtown and across Los Angeles. However, this may be a once-in-a-lifetime boom. That is not to say that construction will never come again, but we are in the midst of a perfect storm of factors that has caused this development bonanza. First, interest rates are at historic lows and may never be so low again -- possibly for decades. Second, coming out of the Great Recession, corporations are sitting on historically high amounts of cash and are looking for a place to invest. Third, the American economy (though sluggish itself) is a bastion of economic stability amidst international turmoil (Brexit? China's Slump? Brazil's Implosion? Russia's Implosion?). All of this amounts to a climate of real estate investment eyeing large projects. Los Angeles is a large market with enough ample space and potential. I'm sure there are further factors I'm not considering, but the point is that future cycles may be way smaller than what we're seeing today. Thoughts? |
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While he has put his money where his mouth is, & has helped dt by opening important businesses in parts of it, he must be allowing his selfish side to get the better of him right now. How else to explain his not only not being relieved that a major gap in dtla at 4th & Hill st is to be filled in with a new apt tower, but his being opposed to it? Worse of all, his saying he doesn't approve of it cuz it's too big, too tall. I was walking around there earlier this yr & the current corner of 4th & hill is not appealing at all. I would be more likely to mosey on over to cedd moses renovated bldg on broadway if I didn't have to pass by such unpleasant gaps. But he just proves you can never be sure exactly how anyone will judge something or some issue in dt. Look at the ppl living in that apt bldg on flower st in south pk....presumably not into a burban lifestyle or the type who'd choose to live in a house with a white picket fence in samo or silver lake.....yet who opposed a proposed apt tower for a parking lot next to their bldg due to it blocking their views & sunlight. this is why when dealing with the good or bad about dt, I try not to get too worked up about the small details. That's cuz I know that something I like, someone else may hate, & something I like, someone else may dislike. there may be some ppl truly committed to dtla, who when looking at the before & after, may....believe it or not.....actually prefer the before. Ppl like Moses could very easily look at past images of dt from over 60 yrs ago & feel they're just as good as something from 2016, such as a proposed new apt tower at 4th & hill st. |
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Excerpt from Gov Jerry brown's letter to gov Rick Scott of Florida after he came to CA to poach jobs Dear Governor Scott, I’m writing to welcome you back to California – a state that in the last year has added more jobs than Florida and Texas combined. We’re home to Hollywood, Silicon Valley and more than 50 Fortune 500 companies. We attract more than half of the nation’s venture capital investment, win more than a quarter of the nation’s patents and grow much of the nation’s fruits and vegetables. Our budget is balanced. We’re paying down debt and building a solid rainy day fund. |
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I don't think that residential demand downtown will ever sharply decline for an extensive period of time, but you're most likely right in that future cycles will probably not be as large. Downtown is in the midst of it's renaissance, so anything in the future will already have a precedent, so to speak. As a side note, what I am hoping for one day (that's a very big "hope"), is that office vacancy drops, warranting a demand for more space. I can see around a dozen or so plazas or corporate courtyards that should be replaced by separate additions to the current office towers. More than likely, going forward we will see more infill projects as the last of the large parking lots DT fill up. (As much as we like to think they are almost gone, there are still hundreds of parking lots downtown, even big ones). But you bring up a good point, and I don't see any other way for developers to feasibly build something on those skinny lots unless there is some sort of zoning change to allow 0 parking. At least not anything significant enough to be posted to the front page. Maybe LA will get it together and finally relieve the parking requirements on developments near transit. |
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First, office space vs residential space seems like a chicken-and-egg problem, or an inhale-exhale one at the very least. You need more people downtown to justify more office space. Also, you need more people working downtown to draw more residents to it. Now, we are seeing residents flock to the neighborhood. This might be followed by an office space boom. Second, Los Angeles (the second largest city, and economy, in the United States) does not have any Fortune 500 companies headquartered within our city limits (Disney, the only one in the region, is in Burbank). Furthermore, we are not a major hub for any industry besides entertainment. Los Angeles needs to attract more corporate headquarters, and Downtown needs to bring more headquarters to it. Could you imagine if CAA or Paramount or even the Gores Group relocated to DTLA? Third, the American economy is becoming more automated, less traditionally office-centric, and more "work from anywhere" oriented landscape. Richard Florida's "The Creative Class" does more justice in describing this than I ever could, but how this will effect major office space construction....we'll find out. Quote:
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I would also add that it seems the housing crisis is more importantly one of affordability. However exciting it is to watch all the new housing projects going up around DTLA, there is a finite supply of renters able and willing to pay $4+/s.f. Although there are many variables around the economy, construction completion dates and new projects breaking ground, I would expect to see a significant increase in vacancy rates and downward pressure on rental rates for the foreseeable future. |
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But with the changing waves of office space and an increasing amount of telecommuters, we will see. |
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For anyone interested, a simple Google search will show we are losing more real (not waiters & baristas) jobs than we're gaining. |
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