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hammersklavier Nov 9, 2017 3:38 AM

PHILADELPHIA | 3001 JFK Boulevard | Schuylkill Yards | 512 FT | 34 FLOORS
 
Title: 3001 JFK Boulevard - Schuylkill Yards Phase I
Project: Office, lab, retail
Architect: SHOP
Developer: Brandywine Realty Trust
Location: 3001 JFK Blvd. Philadelphia, PA
Neighborhood: University City
District: West Philadelphia
Floors: 34 floors
Height: 512 FT

We have our first real rendering for Schuylkill Yards! Meet SHoP's 3003 JFK.

New look at first two towers - 3001 JFK & 3025 JFK Blvd:

https://i.imgur.com/q5EyqSI.jpg

https://schuylkillyards.com/sites/de...?itok=EFdR7Zip

https://www.brandywinerealty.com/sit...&itok=f_8YNKrC

https://www.brandywinerealty.com/sit...&itok=ZUVxQAiV

https://www.brandywinerealty.com/sit...&itok=tPvRBhvP

https://schuylkillyards.com/sites/de...?itok=sCZiZrJN

https://www.brandywinerealty.com/property/3001-jfk-blvd

https://philly.curbed.com/2017/11/8/...groundbreaking[/QUOTE]

skyscraper Nov 9, 2017 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 7980617)
We have our first real rendering for Schuylkill Yards! Meet SHoP's 3003 JFK.

From the thread:

Is this one building, or three buildings stacked on top of each other?
I hope this is not the final version. I like the interplay of solids and voids in the top part, but the bottom parts need to figure out what they want to be. That middle section looks like a shipping container shoved into the building's gut.

McBane Nov 9, 2017 2:32 PM

I like the top two sections, but the bottom third is just completely disconnected. Is that brick!? If Schyukill Yards is designed as a fresh, modern neighborhood built from the ground up, is it necessary to have red brick? Maybe it's not red brick but whatever it is, it just doesn't mesh well with the rest of the tower. A better design (imho) would be for the base to use the same design as either the top section or the middle section. Three differing sections is just too much on the eyes, esp when one is so different from the other two.

Aside from that, I'm jumping for joy! I hope this happens soon.

I assume this is the current site? https://goo.gl/maps/zLZFYM5Ngt82 And the "hole" to the right (east) is Cira II?

Finally, just a little housekeeping question: is it necessary to have a separate thread for this building? Especially at this point? Aside from an updated rendering, the article cited above didn't have any concrete information about this building. Shouldn't all individuals buildings be kept within the greater Schuylkill Yards thread until it's under construction or at least close to it? Maybe not, but it feels like too many threads; at least that's my two cents.

summersm343 Nov 9, 2017 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBane (Post 7980864)
I assume this is the current site? https://goo.gl/maps/zLZFYM5Ngt82 And the "hole" to the right (east) is Cira II?

Correct.

Quote:

Finally, just a little housekeeping question: is it necessary to have a separate thread for this building? Especially at this point? Aside from an updated rendering, the article cited above didn't have any concrete information about this building. Shouldn't all individuals buildings be kept within the greater Schuylkill Yards thread until it's under construction or at least close to it? Maybe not, but it feels like too many threads; at least that's my two cents.
I'm going to clean up the threads now.

summersm343 Nov 9, 2017 3:11 PM

Another rendering showing this first tower, which is just to the left of Cira Centre:

https://image-store.slidesharecdn.co...-original.jpeg

mcgrath618 Nov 9, 2017 3:37 PM

Is that a new rooftop park on top of the Bulletin building? Or has that always been there?
Really excited to finally see this project take off. Hopefully I'll get accepted into Drexel and I can give you guys daily updates when this thing starts to take off.

jsbrook Nov 9, 2017 4:27 PM

I expect much better from SHoP. Please let this change! This manner of achieving outdoor space and green on the building is very clumsy and looks awful. No to the bumpout.

Busy Bee Nov 9, 2017 4:50 PM

Its not bad. Looks like something you'd see in Rotterdam.

summersm343 Nov 9, 2017 4:52 PM

I wouldn't harp on the design too much yet guys.

DrachenFire Nov 9, 2017 5:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBane (Post 7980864)
is it necessary to have red brick?

Could be worse, could be Drexel Special Orange!

donoteat Nov 9, 2017 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBane (Post 7980864)
is it necessary to have red brick?

the brick is the only nice part of it IMO

jjv007 Nov 9, 2017 6:55 PM

I know we're basing this off the renderings but am I the only one who feels this will max out at 500 ft?

Chubbs Peterson Nov 9, 2017 7:02 PM

The top half looks like 1818 Market. Really hope it doesn't turn out like that.

Mr Saturn64 Nov 9, 2017 8:55 PM

I hope it turns out differently. Personally, I find these buildings really hit or miss, and it's clearly a miss. Not as much of a miss as the one on far left in the big rendering. That thing's really ugly. The rest of 'em don't bother me, though. All I'd really like is for the heights to stay consistent. Except for the tallest two.

hammersklavier Nov 9, 2017 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McBane (Post 7980864)
Finally, just a little housekeeping question: is it necessary to have a separate thread for this building? Especially at this point? Aside from an updated rendering, the article cited above didn't have any concrete information about this building. Shouldn't all individuals buildings be kept within the greater Schuylkill Yards thread until it's under construction or at least close to it? Maybe not, but it feels like too many threads; at least that's my two cents.

After keeping Cira South together for so long it had become ludicrously unwieldy to have it in a single thread I made the executive decision to have separate threads for every major project in SY. It'll work like the Hudson Yards threads -- there's a thread for the Yards as a whole as well as separate threads for every major project in the Yards.

christof Nov 10, 2017 1:43 AM

Underwhelming design, to be honest with you.

JohnIII Nov 10, 2017 4:57 PM

Hmmm 570'; that's a good height; overall it adds to the dynamism of the skyline. If it tops out it could sit well being not far from FMC.

But its early days yet so I'm not sure if I can speak to the design:
What is the streetscape like?
Does it bring life to West JFK Boulevard?
How is the night time lighting scheme?
How does it work with the combined hopes of the Rail Station?

I can't form an opinion on the design yet; its to early for me good people.

GarCastle Jan 13, 2018 3:30 PM

I'm a bit baffled by the illustrator's thought that Septa regional rail trains run under Market Street? Subway cars yes, regional rail not so much.

Cheers,
G.

Baconboy007 Jan 15, 2018 3:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarCastle (Post 8045936)
I'm a bit baffled by the illustrator's thought that Septa regional rail trains run under Market Street? Subway cars yes, regional rail not so much.

Cheers,
G.

I think that's the El.

FourS Jan 17, 2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconboy007 (Post 8047426)
I think that's the El.

I think the airport line goes under the streets there too. Not underground, but under the streets. I could be wrong. I think the Elwyn train and the one to Delaware may too.

Nova08 Jan 17, 2018 1:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GarCastle (Post 8045936)
I'm a bit baffled by the illustrator's thought that Septa regional rail trains run under Market Street? Subway cars yes, regional rail not so much.

Cheers,
G.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconboy007 (Post 8047426)
I think that's the El.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourS (Post 8049601)
I think the airport line goes under the streets there too. Not underground, but under the streets. I could be wrong. I think the Elwyn train and the one to Delaware may too.

Guys, it's just a generic stock rendering and they threw on septa colors/logo. Subways look like that in other cities, especially Europe.

The Airport/Wilmington/Media lines go under ground after 30th street and pretty much parallel 32nd street to University City Station

ebuilder Jan 17, 2018 1:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baconboy007 (Post 8047426)
I think that's the El.

yes that is the EL and to the right are Amtrak trains under 30th street station. SEPTA regional rail trains pass under Market street on their way to and from UC station.

City Wide Jan 17, 2018 2:48 PM

who cares about what trains run where underground.
My question is-----is the old Bulletin building going to get that fancy hat, or is that just a architects dream as much as the other buildings?

ebuilder Jan 17, 2018 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by City Wide (Post 8049677)
who cares about what trains run where underground.
My question is-----is the old Bulletin building going to get that fancy hat, or is that just a architects dream as much as the other buildings?

No that is supposed to be the first non-park construction to take place

hammersklavier Jan 23, 2018 3:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourS (Post 8049601)
I think the airport line goes under the streets there too. Not underground, but under the streets. I could be wrong. I think the Elwyn train and the one to Delaware may too.

Those run under 32nd from JFK to Chestnut. I'd personally love to see the cap extended to Walnut.

JohnIII Apr 16, 2018 8:37 PM

The news on this building is intriguing and I assume this is the building to be discussed to be built; this one and another building as well.

As I look at the specs for this building and image the panorama of the city this building will be about the height of the twin towers at Commerce Square so they will have good presence and really fill out the skyline by joining University City to Downtown Philadelphia especially west of the FMC Tower.

TechTalkGuy Apr 19, 2018 11:16 PM

Good solid location & height.
A nice filler for the entire development for sure!! :tup:

hammersklavier Apr 19, 2018 11:21 PM

From the general SY thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrachenFire (Post 8158820)
Coming out of tunnel into 30th this morning and there appears to be a coring rig getting soil samples in the parking lot east of the High Line.


gjrip Apr 20, 2018 5:30 PM

Drills on site, for what it's worth.

https://i.imgur.com/C8r6glWh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nAhAUTVh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hdFE9kyh.jpg

Urbanthusiat Apr 20, 2018 5:43 PM

Excellent :cheers:

SEFTA Apr 22, 2018 3:55 PM

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/867/4...02546f56_b.jpg3003 JFK

Mr Saturn64 Apr 22, 2018 10:02 PM

Pardon if this has already been asked, but where are people going to get on the Megabus while this project is under construction?

gjrip Apr 22, 2018 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 (Post 8164059)
Pardon if this has already been asked, but where are people going to get on the Megabus while this project is under construction?

I assume they'll just move 50 yards west on the same block. Will definitely annoy anyone attempting to leave the big parking lot using the JFK exit but hey maybe they'll start developing that lot in tandem with the eastern portion! If the whole parking lot is being worked on, maybe Drexel will work something out with them and have them use the sidewalk across the street.

Urbanthusiat Apr 22, 2018 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 (Post 8164059)
Pardon if this has already been asked, but where are people going to get on the Megabus while this project is under construction?

This is why I find the bus depot part of the 30th street station district plan one of the most exciting and most needed components.

hammersklavier Apr 23, 2018 6:15 AM

REMINDER: This thread is for serious news about the 3003 JFK project only. If your post is self-evidently silly, like say a mockup of a 1500' Transbay II jawn in SY, expect to find it moved to the general Schuylkill Yards thread here.

I like a bit of fun as much as anyone, but when all the news about 3003 JFK gets posted in the general thread instead of this one, I need to put my foot down. Silly and speculative stuff belongs in the sillier and more speculative thread, you know?

boxbot Apr 23, 2018 1:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 (Post 8164059)
Pardon if this has already been asked, but where are people going to get on the Megabus while this project is under construction?

If history is any indication, jaywalking en masse in front of my car when I'm running late for an appointment.

SEFTA Apr 23, 2018 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 8164373)
REMINDER: This thread is for serious news about the 3003 JFK project only. If your post is self-evidently silly, like say a mockup of a 1500' Transbay II jawn in SY, expect to find it moved to the general Schuylkill Yards thread here.

I like a bit of fun as much as anyone, but when all the news about 3003 JFK gets posted in the general thread instead of this one, I need to put my foot down. Silly and speculative stuff belongs in the sillier and more speculative thread, you know?

Silly, yes. My point was sort of that I viewed this particular lot as hopefully attracting something with a little more oomph!

Knight Hospitaller Apr 23, 2018 8:09 PM

^ Yes. You can only get a frosty at Wendy's: the highest and best use of any lot.

TK2001 Jul 10, 2018 6:50 PM

https://discourse-cdn-sjc1.com/busin...24b5510116.jpg
https://discourse-cdn-sjc1.com/busin...8b6ad31cb5.jpg

JohnIII Apr 9, 2019 6:45 PM

This should be getting off the ground soon; does anyone have word? Also is the design in the photo the final concept? I haven't heard any news on my end of an anchor tenant.

mcgrath618 Aug 21, 2019 6:58 PM

From the SY thread:

bigfish Aug 21, 2019 7:23 PM

Does the article state groundbreaking date?

Hudson11 Aug 21, 2019 7:49 PM

I really, really like the red terracotta.

Jawnadelphia Aug 21, 2019 8:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 8665287)
Does the article state groundbreaking date?

The article states that BRT plans to submit the design plans to CDR in September, so construction should be pretty soon.

christof Aug 21, 2019 8:50 PM

These proposed buildings are shrinking...

mcgrath618 Aug 21, 2019 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by christof (Post 8665452)
These proposed buildings are shrinking...

Not necessarily. 570 ft was a rough estimate done by Hammers a long time ago when this building was originally conceived. In most Schuylkill Yards renderings, this building didn’t break 300’.

The other building, which is at 360’ according to the article, is about the same as it was in the OG renderings. In theory there should be a taller one on the lot right next to University Crossings on JFK.

jsbrook Aug 21, 2019 9:35 PM

Love the color and terracotta and how it integrates with the streetscape! Not entirely sure on the design. Needs to sit with me a bit. I imagine it will be tweaked as all. But overall this still gets a "Hell yeah!"

Hudson11 Aug 21, 2019 10:58 PM

Big Red has aged well in Chicago. I think this tower will too.

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/cna-plaza/2188

http://images.skyscrapercenter.com/b...overall_mg.jpg

TK2001 Aug 21, 2019 11:01 PM

https://aws1.discourse-cdn.com/busin...077c081b4.jpeg
The tower from my favorite spot to shoot

TK2001 Aug 21, 2019 11:24 PM

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