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HossC Jul 26, 2018 12:58 PM

I found this pair of aerial photos of the Civic Center earlier. I know we've seen similar images before, but I liked the opposing angles which give us nearly a full 360 degree view. The first is dated 5/19/38.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original
www.ebay.com

The second photo is undated, but it's from the same seller and progress on the Federal Building is at about the same point.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
www.ebay.com

HossC Jul 26, 2018 3:55 PM

Here's a quick "then and now". The reverse has a stamp saying that The Daily Telegraph published this photo on May 23rd, 1987 with the caption "The brash and the not so beautiful: L.A. says it all with sign language."

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...vedaSigns1.jpg
www.ebay.com

I drew a blank with the Mark IV Lounge and Walden Drugs, but found Bar-Shel's Hi-Fi at 5512 Sepulveda Boulevard. With a branch of Mark C Bloome Tires at 5547 Sepulveda Boulevard, that ties in with the "5563" on the Walden sign. Much of the signage and the utility poles have now gone, but you'll still find a tire dealer at 5547: Just Tires is the green and yellow building on the left.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...vedaSigns2.jpg
GSV

AlvaroLegido Jul 26, 2018 4:43 PM

Empty Court hill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8262471)
The second photo is undated, but it's from the same seller and progress on the Federal Building is at about the same point.
http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original
www.ebay.com

Great photos Hoss ! We have never seen this before on NLA  : an empty Court hill east of Olive between First and Court streets (except a row next to Broadway). How came as they weren't not yet thinking of leveling the hill by 1938 I guess ?

ethereal_reality Jul 26, 2018 10:55 PM

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/ZYTpdT.jpg
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8259185)
William F. Ball came to Los Angeles in 1882 and started a cigar store located at 10 N. Main Street. In 1886, he added a billiard parlor
and in 1894 established the Oak Barber Shop at 106 North Spring Street.
In 1921, the tonsorial parlor was absorbed by Pricher Brothers.

Mr. Ball died in 1935. The house where he lived in 1930 is located at 975 S. Manhattan Place and is still there, although now broken up into apartments.

Thanks oldstuff

Here is 975 S. Manhattan Place [built 1910]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/cQJDNA.jpg
GSV



Looking across the empty lot next door.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/dsqTPZ.jpg
gsv




In fact, there are two more empty lots across the street. --makes me wonder if its days are numbered.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2inlbL.jpg
GSV

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Noir_Noir Jul 27, 2018 2:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8263215)

In fact, there are two more empty lots across the street. --makes me wonder if its days are numbered.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2inlbL.jpg
GSV

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Very numbered. Time was up in November 2017. Clear the Lot it says -


https://i.imgur.com/Zc66r5N.jpg
http://www.ladbs.org/



The lot next to it was cleared in 2003. The two across the street - one cleared in 1992 and the other in 2004.

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 2:37 AM

re: 'mystery' symbol at 1224 Arden Rd. Pasadena.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/5WqPAr.jpg
detail

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/AcFXaT.jpg
google earth

Quote:

Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 8259649)
I don't know what that is (a very easy labyrinth? :-P ), but that's a house on 1224 Arden Rd.: https://www.google.com/maps/place/12....1234917?hl=en

Not sure if it's now owned by Caltech or something, but if you do Google Streetview, you can go right up its driveway and to its garage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 8259899)
Here's an aerial from 1928. I've arrowed the mystery feature, which seems to be surrounded by hedges.
I think it may just be a decorative path layout such as a small rose garden. The 1944 view shows a light-colored rectangle there.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...24ArdenRd1.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldstuff (Post 8259985)
The mark is the Greek letter Phi. Probably for a fraternity. Prior to 1930 Cal Tech had fraternities then they changed over to their unique house system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 8260194)
Maybe, although the only symbol I know for Phi is Φ, without a horizontal bar... Speaking of the bar, 1224 Arden Rd was built in 1920 by attorney Garfield R. Jones...who, as it happens, was a member of the legal fraternity Phi Delta Phi...anyway, Jones was the son of a founder of International Harvester. Which reminds me--an early trademark for IH was this:

https://s22.postimg.cc/f6k5i751d/ihsymbol.jpg

You don't suppose?

As HossC says, seem it's more likely a landscaping feature of the house, perhaps still being worked on.... Looks like it might have later been replaced with a tennis court.

1224 Arden Road was designed by architect Sylvanus Marston [built 1920]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/rWHRhl.jpg
GSV

It appears the google-mobile caught the beginning of a zombie apocalypse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/josRHI.jpg
detail

ARRRGH....




The interior of the home is quite grand compared with the modest exterior..
especially this room with a barrel vaulted coffered ceiling and 2nd story 'choir loft'.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/XvO5qj.jpg
estately

More (64 more!) photographs HERE

A description of the house at NYTIMES This mentions the 'choir loft' and the Zuber & Cie wallpaper murals in the dining room.


Hoss was close when he said the mystery area might now be a tennis course....today there's only a basketball hoop.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/yTlnkP.jpg
estately


Caltech professor Frederick Lindvall occupied the house sometime after Garfield Jones.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/sZ2CD4.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/oFLjPf.jpg
nationalacademyengineering

"Caltech Professor Frederick Lindvall. Lindvall was one of the most skilled and versatile professors of engineering of his time.
On the Internet one can find the text of his oral history made for the Caltech archive. It tells of his work during World War II
on rocket and torpedo design. He had a brief connection with the atomic bomb project, but mostly worked early on
during World War II with the military on early rocket launchers and helped fix problems the Navy was having with aircraft-dropped torpedos
using underwater testing facilities behind Morris Dam above Azusa. Lindvall later visited the Soviet Union to learn
about its engineering education system."
pasadena star


early rocket launchers...hmmmmm.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...924/96wo4j.jpg



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CityBoyDoug Jul 27, 2018 3:18 AM

To Have And Have Not ...Warner Brothers, Staqe 28 and 28A Burbank. The boat was docked at Balboa and was half owned by Desi Arnaz.

http://www.cartychronicles.com/pepit...ve%20Not_3.jpghttp://www.cartychronicles.com/pepit...%20Not_4_1.jpg
carty chron.

http://www.cartychronicles.com/pepit...ve%20Not_2.jpg..https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/a5...65e87427a6.gif

The current location of this little boat is unknown ...if it exists at all.

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 3:49 AM

'mystery' apartment under construction, Los Angeles

"1959 Street Scene Construction 1957 Buick Los Angeles Kodachrome Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/DNh0L7.jpg
EBAY

The only chance of figuring out this location is if someone recognizes the unusual landscaping in the foreground.

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Jh_windsorvillage Jul 27, 2018 4:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8263215)
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...921/ZYTpdT.jpg

Thanks oldstuff

Here is 975 S. Manhattan Place [built 1910]

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/cQJDNA.jpg
GSV





Looking across the empty lot next door.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/dsqTPZ.jpg
gsv




In fact, there are two more empty lots across the street. --makes me wonder if its days are numbered.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2inlbL.jpg
GSV

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Noir Noir is right.
The 3 lots on the left (parking lot, empty lot, not-long-for-this-world house lot and 4 lots on the right (the cleared lots all the way to Olympic) are soon to be home to two 7-story apartment buildings with 95 and 100+ rental apartments, respectively. Oddly, the developers are using density bonus regs (trade a percentage of units for low income) instead of the new Transit Oriented Development to get additional height and density. They’ll be the largest residential buildings for blocks...for now. Neighborhood’s changing!

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 4:58 AM

:previous: Thanks for the information Jh__windsorvillage and Noir Noir.

Jh, do you have a link to the new development?
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update:
Is this it?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...921/bQ68Pc.jpg
larchmont buzz

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ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 5:13 AM

'mystery' location II [somewhere along Wilshire Blvd.]

"Original Slide - Los Angeles Wilshire Blvd. 1959 Plymouth Taxi Cab Yellow"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/Kf62eG.jpg
EBAY

That vivid watermark looks like it's floating and coming right at my face.

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 5:22 AM

:previous: While trying to locate that color slide again, I found this....

"End Of Wilshire Blvd California Downtown Los Angeles Photo #1201"*

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/S3fTQD.jpg
EBAY

What's up with the Abraham Lincoln station-wagon? [Lincoln Savings?] :shrug:

*This is a reprint so we might have already seen this on nla.
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CityBoyDoug Jul 27, 2018 8:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8263564)
:previous: While trying to locate that color slide again, I found this....

"End Of Wilshire Blvd California Downtown Los Angeles Photo #1201"*

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/S3fTQD.jpg
EBAY




*This is a reprint so we might have already seen this on nla.
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LA's well known artist supply store is seen in the back of this parking lot.

Duncan, Vail, Co. I visited it one time for imported Belgium watercolor paper.

GaylordWilshire Jul 27, 2018 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8263558)
'mystery' location II [somewhere along Wilshire Blvd.]

"Original Slide - Los Angeles Wilshire Blvd. 1959 Plymouth Taxi Cab Yellow"

https://s22.postimg.cc/4hw6uwl7l/BHWilsh_Maple.bmp.jpg
EBAY

That watermark looks like it's floating and coming right at my face.
#flashback #badtrip


Looking west from Maple Drive-- Hillcrest Cadillac, which we've seen on NLA before, is at right, being remodeled in this period. It was remodeled into a Lexus dealer later.

https://s22.postimg.cc/58ox0nl01/BHW...plenow.bmp.jpg

HossC Jul 27, 2018 2:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8263550)

There's a February 2018 article about the development at urbanize.la. It doesn't contain a huge amount of text, but there are several larger color images like the one below.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ttanPlace1.jpg
urbanize.la via PK Architecture

Here's the latest Google view showing how the area looks now.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...ttanPlace2.jpg
GSV

The article says that this is "the first phase of a two-building complex known as the Village". I guess "The Manhattan Project" was already taken, but the developers are obviously not fans of the cult 60s British TV series "The Prisoner" - the Village was not somewhere you'd want to live!

Video Link


I am not a number! I'm a free man! ;)

BillinGlendaleCA Jul 27, 2018 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 8263413)
re: 'mystery' symbol at 1224 Arden Rd. Pasadena.

It appears the google-mobile caught the beginning of a zombie apocalypse.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/josRHI.jpg
detail

ARRRGH....
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Nah, just a CalTech student.

HossC Jul 27, 2018 8:09 PM

How about a mystery to start the weekend? There were no details other than the caption:

Original Vintage 40s Photo, bank interior, Los Angeles, California, 8x10

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...steryBank1.jpg
www.ebay.com

A couple of details: the sign on the left appears to say "NOTES ?????????? EXCHANGE", and the entrance with cars parked outside can be seen on the right.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...steryBank2.jpg

John Maddox Roberts Jul 27, 2018 8:53 PM

Quonset structures were common in the postwar years to accommodate the population and building booms that followed the war. I'm guessing that this is a temporary structure to be used while the permanent bank was being built.

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 9:59 PM

:previous: The people look pretty diverse in HossC's banking photo. Does anyone know if there was a bank at Rodger Young Village?
At one time, it was the most diverse community in all of California. (& built almost entirely of Quonset huts)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/bZex3B.jpg
upinthevalley

I know 'RYV' had a market...a drug store...a barber shop...and a theater. -but I'm not sure about a bank. :shrug:




As most of you know, the site is now
the parking lot for the Los Angeles Zoo & the Autry Museum

ethereal_reality Jul 27, 2018 11:41 PM

'mystery' vantage point. -can anyone figure out where the photograph is standing?

"ORIGINAL 35MM SLIDE SL64 ☆ 1960's HOLLYWOOD SIGN SKYLINE VIEW"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...921/TqbhFX.jpg
EBAY

I'm ntrigued by the large vintage building with the tile roof. Is the photographer on that roof or is he/she on another roof next door :shrug:

also note: In mid-distance there appears to be an extremely long one or two story building. -this has thrown me for a loop.

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