8X on the Park | 98m | 36Fl | Completed
Here's the project I posted about last week in the Downtown thread. Details are now public.
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•Statistics http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...Statistics.pdf •Context Plan and Aerial http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...lan_Aerial.pdf •Building Grades http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...dingGrades.pdf •Context Massing and Rezoning Rationale http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...gRationale.pdf •View Cones http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/.../ViewCones.pdf •Shanow Analysis http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...owAnalysis.pdf •Massing and Footprint Comparison http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...Comparison.pdf •Tower Comparison http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...Comparison.pdf •Photo Montage http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...otoMontage.pdf •Design Rationale http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...nRationale.pdf •Sustainability Rationale http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...yRationale.pdf •View Impact Analysis http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...ctAnalysis.pdf •Parking Plans http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...rkingPlans.pdf •Floor and Roof Plans http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._RoofPlans.pdf •Building Elevations http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...Elevations.pdf •Building Sections http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...ngSections.pdf •Landscape Plan http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...dscapePlan.pdf •FSR Calculations http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...lculations.pdf The design is better then the norm but certainly not amazing. Surprised by the monsterous FSR being proposed for this area though. Will be interesting to see this one work thru the system. |
10 Levels of parking? Wow.
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Did I read this right, 10 floors of underground parking? Lol. I really like this project. I love the high fsr. I would be happy to see this become more common
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Indeed, 10 floors of parking. Short floors though, 8' ceilings.
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Just FLIP the floorplate - then the curved corner will fall under the viewcone. What geniuses are these? http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2758/87918088.png Uploaded with ImageShack.us ************ Noteworthy that they are closing (or overhanging?) the lane for the project footprint. Also noteworthy that the Jubilee House will be moving to a purpose built 13 storey building across the street as this is a land-swap. That means this tower will not start construction until that one is complete and the residents move in - i..e. proper phasing (as opposed to Little Mountain). http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/583/28758898.png Uploaded with ImageShack.us |
Cool, I wasn't even thinking of seeing a tower on this site. So far the design looks better than usual.
10 levels of parking sounds annoying though. The parkade in our building is 6 levels deep and driving all the way down there does take some time. :rolleyes: |
A lot of metal and glass. If Ikea made a condo tower, this would be it.
What is vertical green screen? Must be something that costs slightly more than metal panels because it (green screen) only goes half way up. |
I've always assumed that those two buildings on the block will not be replaced, but rather added to the park, when it comes time to demolish them. The way one condo tower will sit on that block is weird, and almost undemocratic in expression.
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I also find it interesting that there is no set of renderings for the tower among the materials.
i.e. the assumption being that the tower must be too ugly or plain to present via renderings. Quote:
The odd thing about the siting is that the tallest tower in the area will now block the VIEW of the park (and the openness provided by the park) from many of the shorter towers in the area. Quote:
********* I wonder if the units will come with a warning about adjacent dog park noise? or extra soundproofing? http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Va...573/story.html Quote:
Nice pic of the site from the internet: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1...couver+031.JPG http://lmaclean.ca/tag/emery-barnes-park/ |
As someone who goes to the dog park often it's rare that there's barking and very rare that there's a dog fight. I'd be more cOncerned with the bums making noise shooting up and getting drunk by the waterfall instead
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I like the curved shapes of the building; this should help attenuate the profile which is just that of another rectangular box.
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Interesting floorplate and use of curves, as noted above. Vancouver would, IMO, profit from a greater and more daring use of curves in some major buildings.
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Actually, I've thought that the accent curve is a bit overused - since the Terminal City Club building started it off in town (smaller version of Montreal's IBM tower).
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The UDP voted this one down unanimously with a 0-7 vote for support.
Below are the minutes, looks like they are okay with the height but felt it's too dense as the floor plates are too large. Quote:
I bolded the one line, surprised the city is looking at a greenway along Richards, always figured the plan was to convert it to a two way street along with some other questionable one-ways. If they go with the greenway they won't be able to go to a two way. |
I wish the city would allow larger floor plate buildings. 10,000 isn't even that big
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The Panel supported the height but felt there might be too much density which had created a rather bulky building. They noted that the proportions didn’t feel right and that the 10,000 square foot floor plates were too large for this neighbourhood.
on the one hand, it's great that the developer will have to come back with a better-designed building to keep that fsr and make the project pencil, but on the other hand, that language is just chilling. couldn't the udp members tease out what was simple poor design from some basic, project-breaking lines of criticism? aren't they architects and planners? the design is horrible, hard to believe that it could have come up in 2013, just phoned in, sure - so critique the thing along those lines, not lines that threaten the entire project. damn. |
If they sculpt the top, the removed density would have to go into the podium.
Maybe a taller podium would work as the surrounding buildings are all taller podiums because of the low view cone through the area. They could also try to cantilever more of the podium over the lane facing the park and articulate the cantilevered facade - maybe like the UBC Pharmacy Building - with setbacks above. With the large floorplate, I think the tower needs to be more of a landmark - not just a bulky anonymous tower. If they break up the shaft, it wouldn't appear as bulky or domineering over the park. The vertical alcove just adds to the bulkiness of the tower (emphasizing height). I would delete the vertical alcoves (adding density to each floor and add gaps or fins or boxes to break up the facade. i.e. Think Rolston, rather than Capitol. These will be premium suites, as they overlook the park and the tower will have some of the best views in the area, since there's the adjacent view cone limiting the height of buildings to the north. |
This one is headed back to the UDP on Apr 24, less than a month since it was last there (Mar 27). FSR reduced from 17.4 to 17.02.
http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/commit...l-20130424.pdf |
Here is the revised application, think the udp did the right thing sending this one back for redesign.
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http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...onse_apr13.pdf Context Plan http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Architectural and Landscape Rationale http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Rezoning Rationale http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf View Cones http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Shadow Analysis http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Footprint Comparison http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Outright Zoning Comparison http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Tower Comparison http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Photo Montage http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Sustainability Rationale http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Site Plan http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Parking Plans http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Floor and Roof Plans http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Building Elevations http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Building Sections http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Landscape Plan http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/..._rev_apr13.pdf Surprised how quickly they were able to redesign and get this back in front of the udp, shows how eager the developer is to proceed quickly and how unbusy the udp is these days. image courtesy of Changing city http://changingcitybook.files.wordpr...2-render-2.jpg Source:http://changingcitybook.com/2013/04/...lmcken-street/ |
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