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tayser Oct 18, 2011 9:27 AM

MELBOURNE | One Queensbridge Street | 323m | 90L
 
roll up, roll up, Southbank's mega-cluster continues in earnest with the latest proposal. Funnily enough by the same developer which is doing, the now U/C, Prima-Pearl right next door.

Directly from the planning Application recently lodged, and originally posted by melbournee12 on Ozscrapers

will update once we get clearer renders and more info (276m quoted on OzScrapers, but that may be the height above sea level. Eureka is 3m above sea level so this one could be 273m).

regardless, it's a nice big F you to people who bought on the western side of Freshwater Place :haha:

an ode to Lakefront in Chicackers?

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6162/...61e8c8a5_b.jpg

Travis007 Oct 18, 2011 11:50 AM

Another sharp and sleek design. Melbourne's on a roll lately.

LeftCoaster Oct 18, 2011 1:46 PM

80 litres?!

;)

MolsonExport Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM

Damn, and Canada hit 72 storeys in 1973 and has not gone higher since (excepting CN tower).

Dale Oct 18, 2011 6:06 PM

Is there something sacrosanct about Eureka ? Does Melbourne have a height cap of 275m ?

tayser Oct 19, 2011 9:38 AM

There's a quasi-height limit on Southbank of 300m. Eureka's ground level is 2.7m above sea level (the Yarra etc) and the tower height is 297.3m.

I say quasi as height "limits" can be exceeded if the design is "exemplary" [which is subjective], but afaik the planning overlays in the Capital City Zone (the CBD + Southbank basically) allow this.

No-one's pushed it as yet, but the last remaining site where this could happen is, funnily enough, directly infront of Eureka :haha:

http://www.claiborneswebsite.com/Mel...s/image002.jpg

^ in the above pic, the three low-rise campuses (Which were some of the original offices onm Southbank from 15-20 or so years ago) + a multi-level car park just behind them (where most of us took construction update pics of Eureka way back when!) could theoretically consolidated and an enormous tower the size of Eureka (or taller) built on top ;)

the funny thing about this one is it's the same developer as Prima-Pearl which is 254m tall. On OzScrapers a few pissed off buyers of Prima apartments are already bemoaning being duped by sales staff that the site couldn't have something like this proposal built on it - which is total bullshit as it's all the same zone and everything's fair game as the height limit so close to the river is mute - which is the southern bank of the river cannot be overshadowed in the middle of July (remembering the sun is in the northern sky down here, and the tower is on the southern bank of the river already ;)). furthermore, a tower like Rialto couldn't be built in the lower CBD in this day and age owing to that restriction (Which came into force after Rialto and Optus on Collins Street (which is the other tower which overshadows in the middle of July at the moment).

tayser Oct 19, 2011 9:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolsonExport (Post 5448176)
Damn, and Canada hit 72 storeys in 1973 and has not gone higher since (excepting CN tower).

to be fair to First Canucker Place, it's an office with no doubt (if it's the same in Canada as Australia) ~4m floor to ceiling heights. Resi towers here are generally ~3m floor to ceiling (~2.5m from floor to the "ceiling" we'd see inside an apartment + 0.5m of ducts/electrical and what not).

Dale Oct 19, 2011 3:37 PM

Thanks, Tayser.

tayser Oct 31, 2011 11:38 AM

by the very talented (achitect) "archi" on Ozscrapers:



tayser Nov 24, 2011 10:25 PM

The nimby's are bitching about the 8m setback between the towers. Their body corp has formed a subcommitte to oppose this tower.

Their claims are ridiculous - suburban houses and many many many many 3-4 level apartment buildings have much less of a setback - in some cases only 1-2 metres.

But more importantly, we've since had another(!) application lodged on the same bloody block around 200m!!

Quote:

Southbank skyscrapers ire
Jason Dowling
November 24, 2011

http://theage.domain.com.au/real-est...#ixzz1eYmDCPl7



SOUTHBANK could soon be the precinct that skyscrapers killed, residents fear, with planning applications lodged for three giant towers - one almost as tall as Eureka Tower, Melbourne's tallest building.

Planning applications have been lodged in recent weeks for a 71-storey tower with 592 apartments and 566 car parking spaces at the site of the Queensbridge Hotel, Southbank.

http://images.theage.com.au/2011/11/...ower-200x0.jpg
The proposed Queensbridge Tower would be the second-tallest building in Melbourne at 275 metres.

A stone's throw away at 25 Queens Bridge Street, an application has been lodged for a 66-storey mixed-use development and at nearby 54-56 Clarke Street an application has been lodged for a 56-storey mixed-use development.
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Red = Prima
Yellow = QBH
Blue = 25 Queensbridge St (still not seen a render)
Purple = long term site, all owned by Mirvac - car park we used to take photos of E's construction from + the 3 original office campuses which are now approaching 20 years old. Theoretically a same sized building as Eureka can be built here... muahuah

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3...hbankprops.png

tayser Dec 16, 2011 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvermb on OZScrapers
bates smart design

http://oi39.tinypic.com/149xytf.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/xgh451.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/59zcip.jpg

http://oi42.tinypic.com/23kue5d.jpg

if rejected my guess is the architetcs may turn it into a kidney providing increased separation between both towers, but this one seems to be a no-brainer for approval

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2i11soy.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/smu1c3.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/6863ar.jpg

...

WibblyWobbly Jan 14, 2012 3:48 AM

Queensbridge tower looks a lot like the Prima pearl.
I Really like the design of them and i hope they get built

WibblyWobbly Jan 15, 2012 5:24 AM

Build it, build it, build it!

tayser Feb 19, 2012 8:36 AM

repost from ozscrapers

Quote:

Originally Posted by A r c h i on OzScrapers

As for Queensbridge Tower I think this diagram (from Hansen's analysis report of the tower) puts it into perspective.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2540/qbtsetbacks.jpg

The minimum setback from FwP is 8m but is measured to the tangent of the midpoint of the arc falling away to a maximum setback of 13.6m (at an average setback of ~11.2m). This is well beyond the 9m overlooking rescode requirement.

There's also this diagram highlighting the potential density of the block:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4198/southbankcore.jpg


tayser Apr 18, 2012 5:25 AM

Approved @ 276m.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MelbourneOnTheRise (Post 90521442)
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mor...-1226330786621
http://resources1.news.com.au/images...idge-tower.jpg
Second-tallest skyscraper heralds high-rise era for Melbourne

A NEW era of super skyscrapers has started in Melbourne with approval for the city's second-tallest tower.

A decade after Eureka Tower opened, a soaring 276m skyscraper will rise on the Queensbridge Hotel site at Southbank.

And Planning Minister Matthew Guy says more are on the way.

The 71-storey, $274 million Queensbridge development will be just 21m shorter than the nearby Eureka Tower, making it the third-tallest building in Australia.

It will boast 592 luxury apartments and a ground-floor mezzanine retail area.

Made of three platinum and silver glass cylinders, the tower will dwarf the 200m, 62-floor Freshwater Place building next door - angering of many Freshwater residents.

They will lose much of their view, despite Mr Guy increasing the proposed distance between the two towers to 10m.

Mr Guy said the Queensbridge development underlined what Melbourne's building future should be.

"I want architectural excellence and height," he said. "I want buildings that inspire Victorians. If this can be done in the right place, and with beauty, then the sky's the limit.

"I want skyscrapers in the enlarged CBD. That's where they belong."
:banana:

The Schiavello Group, which won approval for the Queensbridge Tower, is also building the 250m, 67-storey Prima Pearl Tower next door.

Another 226m tower at 70 Southbank Boulevard has been approved, while a 250m tower at 23 Queensbridge St is being considered.

Mr Guy said approval for the Queensbridge development stipulated it must be completed within six years.

The project is expected to create more than 800 jobs during construction and in ongoing retail.

Real Estate Institute of Victoria spokesman Robert Larocca said planning approval was only half the battle. Schiavello had to pre-sell enough apartments to commence building.

"When you look around Melbourne, people are clearly buying these places. We are going to need housing into the future, and this is how a lot of it is going to be delivered," he said.


Dale Apr 18, 2012 2:39 PM

Swoit!

uaarkson Apr 18, 2012 2:51 PM

Congrats, Melbourne! Awesome, awesome design.

Biff Apr 18, 2012 3:14 PM

Wow, that is a great looking tower. I think it was noted earlier in the thread, but it reminds me a lot of an updated version of Lake Point Tower in Chicago. I have to say though, it sure is close to Freshwater Place which in itself is pretty new.

tayser Apr 19, 2012 5:54 AM

Yeah it's close, but look at how they developed FWP - the tower is on the property boundary.

anyone got $250k for a deposit for me? untouchable northerly views from this tower!

MelboyPete Apr 23, 2012 12:51 PM

So love the look of this new tower...can't wait to see it rise :tup:


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