Why no interest for supertall office buildings in this country?
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Questions I have on my mind for quite some time now. Seeing all the extra super tall towers being built around the world, especially in Asia and in the Middle East, why isn't Canada interested to at least build 1 ? Just one. Or two?! Is it too expensive? Height restrictions? Could we, at least, find a spot for it? Doesn't have to be downtown Toronto or Vancouver if they don't want it, but any city could show interest? Why are banks, or government, or any major company reluctant to do it? Those office towers in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chongqing, Beijing, etc ... Could we at least have just one? A big fat tall super high skyscrapers like the Shanghai Tower? Is it really something we won't ever see in our lifetime? What's holding us as a country to build such towers? Would people be against them? Is it because of job and population demographics? The US are 325 people, and they don't seem to care either. Are we in a North American state of mind regarding super tall towers? I wonder what you guys think. |
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If I was to wager on bet on which city would do it first, it would definitely be Toronto, Calgary, or Montreal. I don't know much about Montreal's feelings towards taller towers but I feel that Montreal would be a contender. |
Toronto has a 42-year old office tower that is 2m short of "supertall" status.
Quite frankly - there's no appetite for them right now in Toronto. |
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Lack of hubris would be another reason. Unlike in Saudi Arabia or Dubai, there's no governmental push to build the tallest. Most Canadians are pragmatic enough that government spending on that sort of venture would be considered wasteful, so it would have to be privately financed, which brings me back to the first point. |
Vancouver, Edmonton, Ottawa, and Montreal all have height restrictions, so that leaves Calgary and Toronto.
Calgary already has too much office space. Toronto is building very tall buildings, some of the newer condo towers are supertalls. In any case, 300m is a very arbitrary defining limit and supertall skyscraper building is seen as a sign of economic collapse so I guess it's good that we aren't building them. |
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Most of those towers are being built in oppressive regimes that want to be seem as modern. They are merely symbols of propaganda.
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There's absolutely no market for them. Our companies are too small and our government has oversight. A 1600 to 2000 foot tower is far too visible a real estate venture.
Both Calgary and Toronto have guidelines in place that affect height in their traditional commercial cores. No way you could build that tall. |
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This article explains this topic very nicely.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wilshir...st-skyscraper/ |
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Supertalls aren't very practical. No single company needs that much space. Floorplates too small, elevator ride too long. And how about trudging down 50 flights of stairs when someone pulls the fire alarm.
Supertalls are status symbols only. |
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There are certainly a few exceptions but in most cases, super-talls are vanity projects and mega-talls always are.
They very rarely are built out of sound economics and mostly prestige. This is why, as noted earlier, most are in totalitarian countries that think they have something to prove......ie China, Dubai, Saudi Arabia. |
Super-talls are generally a symbol of wretched excess, look at where they're built. There's no real economic justification for it in the office market, certainly not in Canada.
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Why don't they all join together in order to at least build ONE giant modern skyscraper? Toronto built the highest structure on Earth back 40 years ago (I know that the tower was useful in many ways back then), but don't you think it was a bit of a show off moment for Canada back then? We could still pull it off if we present the right project, at the right place. |
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