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summersm343 Dec 13, 2013 4:55 PM

This is awesome news!

BenKatzPhillytoParis Dec 13, 2013 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNigh (Post 6373221)
I think this and the dilworth plaza are going to be serious improvements for this area. The next step is get the wendy's out of there.

It's really only a matter of time. With the W, Dilworth, and Nordstrom Rack and Uniqlo opening multi-storey plus a fair amount of other residential and retail development along chestnut (oh and increasing rents on walnut forcing stores to relocate) this space will definitely change.

Plokoon11 Dec 13, 2013 5:02 PM

The video says the city passed 2 hotel proposals. what is the other one?

summersm343 Dec 13, 2013 5:03 PM

Here is the rendering from the video. It's obviously a preliminary rendering and I'm sure we'll see more in depth ones early next year.

Either way this is over 500 feet which I think is a good height.

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...72372325_n.jpg

summersm343 Dec 13, 2013 5:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Plokoon11 (Post 6373260)
The video says the city passed 2 hotel proposals. what is the other one?

Probably the SLS at Broad and Spruce. The new 40 story Dranoff tower.

iheartphilly Dec 13, 2013 5:18 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 6373265)
Probably the SLS at Broad and Spruce. The new 40 story Dranoff tower.

Quoting the 6ABC video, they mentioned both the W and Element as being two hotels. Technically, that's correct, but for us highrise-o-philes, it's one building with two brands. :D

relnahe Dec 13, 2013 5:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeNigh (Post 6373221)
The next step is get the wendy's out of there.

Where are Kanye and Kim going to eat? They love that Wendy's at 15th and Chestnut.

http://media.philly.com/images/11161...wendys_600.jpg

summersm343 Dec 13, 2013 5:26 PM

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Originally Posted by iheartphilly (Post 6373271)
Quoting the 6ABC video, they mentioned both the W and Element as being two hotels. Technically, that's correct, but for us highrise-o-philes, it's one building with two brands. :D

That is correct. My mistake.

iheartphilly Dec 13, 2013 5:33 PM

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Originally Posted by relnahe (Post 6373277)
Where are Kanye and Kim going to eat? They love that Wendy's at 15th and Chestnut.

http://media.philly.com/images/11161...wendys_600.jpg

I'm sure they can dine at 11th and Walnut location...:tup:

PHL10 Dec 13, 2013 6:41 PM

Scale wise, it’s pretty similar to the Ritz which means that you’ll only see one or the other from views North and South so the skyline impact will be zilch from those main vantage points.

Late1 Dec 13, 2013 6:49 PM

Yeah, I was hoping for something 600' or more -- but the rendering gives me hope that the design will be quite good. Really hoping for an elegant facade!

Pennsgrant Dec 13, 2013 6:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PHL10 (Post 6373397)
Scale wise, it’s pretty similar to the Ritz which means that you’ll only see one or the other from views North and South so the skyline impact will be zilch from those main vantage points.

Yes. From a strategic location viewpont "accenting the skyline" this is about the absolute worst lot imaginable. Its going to completely block out Residence-Ritz Carlton from the south which is a pretty spectacular tower.

Now if this W tower had gone up a mere couple blocks to the east? An impact game changer for the skyline. But great news nonetheless.

iheartphilly Dec 13, 2013 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by summersm343 (Post 6373282)
That is correct. My mistake.

No worries...

Here's a link to the docket for the new hotel:

https://phila.legistar.com/Legislati...&Search=130686

There's a "side profile" rendering shown next to the Ritz Carlton hotel on page 23/32 of "Bill No. 13068601, As Amended.pdf".

Plokoon11 Dec 13, 2013 7:37 PM

It got shorter.

summersm343 Dec 13, 2013 7:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Plokoon11 (Post 6373487)
It got shorter.

By roughly 30 feet lol. Not that much shorter... and the developer said it would be at least 550 feet.

alasi Dec 13, 2013 9:14 PM

Looks like the 50 floors includes the 6 for parking. If it was the 6 floors and 50 floors for the hotel(s), we would probably reach close to 600". Too bad.

Londonee Dec 14, 2013 10:34 PM

I'm going to join the "eh" crowd on this one. Less than 600' plus my dreaded bland rectangle design--it's almost maddening.

All eyes to the ground and streetscape on this one now, hopefully our boy Blenfest doesn't f*^k that up.

UCityGardener Dec 17, 2013 9:53 PM

I'm with others here... while I know it's only a preliminary rendering, it's a huge disappointment. Shorter than I thought it would be and a characterless rectangle. I expect more from Starwood.

SJBadger Dec 18, 2013 4:52 AM

to bad we didn't get the Waldorf-Astoria!

summersm343 Dec 18, 2013 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SJBadger (Post 6377959)
to bad we didn't get the Waldorf-Astoria!

Philly will get one one day. With the rate Center City is going it's only a matter of time. W Hotels are fantastic as well. That thing will always be booked.


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