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jeddy1989 Jun 13, 2013 1:43 PM

[St. John's] APP Hotel | 11 Floors | Proposed
 
This is for a three story extension on the top of the Atlantic Place Garage.

http://i.imgur.com/JJqWzd0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/a59ifRf.jpg

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Here's some slides about the project:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.n...24997903_n.jpg

What's there now:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.n...53176521_n.jpg

Floor plan options:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...90093219_n.jpg

more renders (Low Quality :( )

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...88041785_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...92996317_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...10033162_n.jpg

All from http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/...27s%20Cove.pdf

jeddy1989 Jun 13, 2013 1:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoscStudent (Post 6163035)
Time for a new thread? A public meeting for the Atlantic Place Parking Garage Hotel (dubbed APP Hotel) will be held July 4. Here's a background on the development!

http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/...27s%20Cove.pdf

here you go :) and thanks! I'm going to post some images from that document

PoscStudent Jun 13, 2013 1:45 PM

Wish they could have used high quality pictures.

SignalHillHiker Jun 13, 2013 1:45 PM

So excited. :)

Copes Jun 13, 2013 1:58 PM

I think its ugly.

I think what is there now is uglier.

But its still ugly.

I don't like the colors, they look bad on top of a brown brick.

Perhaps higher quality renders would sway me.

SignalHillHiker Jun 13, 2013 1:59 PM

Maybe they can get Skittles to cover the cost of highest-quality materials?

jeddy1989 Jun 13, 2013 2:06 PM

I think they need to show better quality renders

Townie709 Jun 13, 2013 2:09 PM

I really like the look of the top portion, but whatever it looks like they're doing to the garage looks horrible. It looks like they're just going to throw coloured chicken wire over the disgusting brown brick that is there now, and by doing so they don't even cover up the brown brick. You still see it.

If they want to sway me I need better renders showcasing what this is actually going to look like in real life and all these cool light features that will make the garage unrecognizable. I'm just worried were going to be saddled with an even more prominent eyesore.

AllBlack Jun 13, 2013 2:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoscStudent (Post 6163059)
Wish they could have used high quality pictures.

Me too.

From what I see here it's hideous, perhaps as hideous as what's there now. Well maybe not worse than a rusted steel & brick garage... but close.

SignalHillHiker Jun 13, 2013 2:15 PM

I'm not worried at all. Not even a little bit. :) Even if it's as blurry as in the renders... I'll be thrilled. :D

jeddy1989 Jun 13, 2013 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Townie709 (Post 6163105)
I really like the look of the top portion, but whatever it looks like they're doing to the garage looks horrible. It looks like they're just going to throw coloured chicken wire over the disgusting brown brick that is there now, and by doing so they don't even cover up the brown brick. You still see it.

If they want to sway me I need better renders showcasing what this is actually going to look like in real life and all these cool light features that will make the garage unrecognizable. I'm just worried were going to be saddled with an even more prominent eyesore.

I really think these are just low quality initial renders

another example:

http://www.pbase.com/image/128571789.jpg

turned into this:

http://i.imgur.com/GohzOOS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZcQz2qL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sRkeLcp.jpg

Townie709 Jun 13, 2013 2:34 PM

I realize these are just preliminary renders. I love the concept of the proposal and I love the top portion. I'm just not too convinced of the overall product (especially the garage portion) at this time. Once some higher quality renders are made public, I will be able to judge this project.

I am in love with the concept and what the developer is trying to achieve, they just need to convince me it will look good! :cool:

PoscStudent Jun 13, 2013 3:17 PM

I love the entrance area from Harbour Drive, I don't mind the hotel portion but I think there's a but to much colour going on there, and I don't mind the garage portion in some images. I'd like to know more about the screening and what the can do, on page 8 the picture of the garage in the bottom corner looks interesting.

A325 Jun 13, 2013 3:30 PM

I'm definitely not a fan of the multi-colored facade on this project. I think it worked well on Star of the Sea and Bennett House but not with the scale of this building.

I wish they had opted for a colonial-style re-clad with some modern curtain wall glazing.

This colored chicken wire seems like a real cheap way out.

mrjanejacobs Jun 13, 2013 3:39 PM

What garbage renderings - I don't see why Philip Pratt and Sonco are using architectural rendering software from the 1980s. This kind of quality work would fail you out of architecture school. How embarrassing...

I think the design is fine, however, the coloration of the Harbour Drive facade is definitely excessive.

But a colonial style re-clad? C'mon. That's the worst kind of way of "respecting heritage". If it never was a colonial building, then it shouldn't have a faux-colonial cladding.

We're in the 21st century - it's time to build architecture in tune with the era. With that said, I don't think our era is as colourful as this design suggests...

SignalHillHiker Jun 13, 2013 3:46 PM

Reading that post was like watching a tennis match. Right, left, right, left, right left. :haha: I love it.

It is a pity the renderings are so bad. Fortis Place-quality renderings should be the norm these days.

But... they don't have the final design yet, I'm sure. So they probably don't want to show too much detail yet.

mrjanejacobs Jun 13, 2013 3:49 PM

Oh - no, it would be way too premature to see that level of detail in concept renderings. It's not the level of detail I'm annoyed by - it's the quality and execution. It's the ultimate pet-peeve when I see cartoonish renderings.

To be fair, the renderings for Fortis were just ok :P

You should see some of the stuff done my students at my school - phew - they're better than photographs.

SignalHillHiker Jun 13, 2013 3:52 PM

Better than the Fortis ones? Can you share one? I thought the Fortis ones were photo quality. In the main highrise thread, one guy even commented that he got confused because he thought the renderings showed the finished structure:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=201219

http://www.fortisplace.com/images/1_b.jpg

mrjanejacobs Jun 13, 2013 4:00 PM

Haha it's fantastic for St.John's development standards - I'll dig up some renderings later and post them!

statbass Jun 13, 2013 4:10 PM

It might just be the renderings, but I not a big fan of this design. Prove me wrong, APP!


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