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drew Oct 16, 2008 7:17 PM

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Originally Posted by furrycanuck (Post 3831300)
I think the point is that you'd expect (in Canada) 22 murders to be in a much bigger city. It's not a comment on Wpg being small but that one would expect, given its size, for it to have fewer murders.

Agreed, but this comparison shouldn't be limited to Winnipeg. Maybe someone can get the numbers, but I would imagine the actual rate per 100k is pretty close between Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, etc.

If 22 murders in Winnipeg seems like a lot for a city of 700000, why doesn't the same apply for 28 in Calgary at just over a million, or whatever it's at for Edmonton?

As I seem to recall Edmonton had a higher per capita murder rate than Winnipeg last year.

vid Oct 16, 2008 8:48 PM

Thunder Bay is at 0, BTW. NWO can't be more than 5 so far.

JuelzJones Oct 17, 2008 3:10 PM

Toronto is at 59--33 or 34 have been by gun

GTA is at 86

drizzo_613 Oct 17, 2008 8:01 PM

what is the record for GTA homicides?

JuelzJones Oct 20, 2008 3:16 PM

I don't know but last year the GTA had 114

that might be the record or its somewhere around there


Peel region has already made a record though, there highest homicide count before was 17 throughout a year, but right now they are already at 24

rrskylar Oct 23, 2008 2:37 PM

We're #1 (Winnipeg FP)

Manitoba, Winnipeg murder capitals


Winnipeg and Manitoba are bucking the national trend in a most disturbing category - they now have the highest per capita rates of homicides, according to Statistics Canada.

Manitoba police reported 62 homicides in 2007, 23 more than in 2006. It is the province's highest level since data were first available in 1961.

That's a rate of 5.22 deaths per 100,000 residents. The next closest province was Saskatchewan where, with 30 homicides in 2007, the per capita rate was 3.01. In 2006, Saskatchewan had the highest rate, while Manitoba was second.

Most of the increase occurred in small urban and rural areas, Manitoba police said.

Nationally, there were 594 homicides, 12 (three per cent) fewer than in 2006, and it's a continuation of general downward trend since the mid-1970s.

Stabbings accounted for one-third of the deaths across Canada, while another third involved firearms. One in five homicides nationally were gang related.

While the overall rate of homicides committed with a firearm has generally been decreasing since the mid-1970s, the use of handguns has been on the rise. In 2007, handguns were used in two-thirds of all firearm homicides, up from about one-quarter 20 years ago.

Winnipeg, with 26 homicides in 2007, has a per capita rate of 3.55, the highest of all larger urban centres. Edmonton and Calgary followed, with rates of 3.28 and 3.14, respectively.

Five of the Winnipeg homicides involved firearms and five were gang related.

PhilippeMtl Oct 23, 2008 3:08 PM

Montreal is still at 15, we prefer riots here...

Ruckus Oct 24, 2008 3:08 AM

Blame Stats Canada! :banana:

Saskatoon tabbed Canada's murder capital
Darren Berhardt and Lori Coolican, The StarPhoenix.com
Published: Thursday, October 23, 2008

Saskatoon has taken over the top spot in the nation in a unenviable category: Murder capital of Canada.

Statistics Canada's annual homicide report, released Thursday, says Saskatoon had the highest rate of all cities for 2007. The number of murders is listed as nine, though the Saskatoon Police Service disputes that figure, saying it was seven.

Nonetheless, whether it was officially nine or seven, Saskatoon was nowhere near Toronto's 111, which accounted for nearly one-fifth the national total. Still, Toronto ranked below Saskatoon.

That's because the data is calculated on a per-capita basis. After taking population into account, the Toronto homicide rate is on par with other large Canadian cities.

Saskatoon's homicide rate was 3.6 per 100,000 population. Winnipeg ranked second at 3.55, followed by Edmonton at 3.28 and Calgary at 3.14. Regina, which topped the list in 2006 with a rate of 5.47, dropped to sixth place in 2007, tied with Greater Sudbury at a rate of 2.46.

One of the homicides included in the report for Saskatoon actually took place in 2006, police spokesperson Alyson Edwards noted.

Marie Lasas was a student whose remains were not found until the following year under a pile of wood behind a vacant house on 33rd Street West.

Another death included in the figures was that of Alec McMillan, whose body was discovered in a ditch just outside the city limits in January.

That investigation is being handled by the RCMP because it is not within the city police force's jurisdiction.


"It's kind of frustrating for us." Edwards said.

The murder capital label tends to distort people's perceptions about the relative level of safety in a small city like Saskatoon, "and it's difficult with homicides, because you can't really prevent those," she said.

So far this year, the city has recorded two homicides and the violent crime rate, which includes homicides, is down by more than 12 per cent, Edwards noted.

Hongming Cheng, assistant professor of criminology at the University of Saskatchewan, cited a number of factors that should be addressed to maintain that positive direction.

Frustrations that seem trivial can grow into explosive situations. Catching those early is key and that requires strong community supports to address poverty and employment, Cheng said.

People who feel disaffected are the ones who act out. With more training opportunities and a focus on restorative justice, people on society's fringe can become more productive members with a sense of belonging, Cheng suggested.

The downside of the current economic boom means the gap between the rich and poor is growing wider. The city has already experienced that as the availability of affordable housing plummets.

And the issue of racism is still an ugly blight on Saskatoon. Cheng has witnessed it through the experiences of his colleagues, one of whom is aboriginal. That professor's son has been told by people in his east side neighbourhood to stay on the west side, Cheng said.

"Aboriginal people have still not been accepted into the dominant society," he said.

It's only so long before those tensions boil over.

The western provinces and the territories have consistently reported the highest homicide rates in the country and last year was no exception, Statistics Canada says.

With 62 homicides, Manitoba had the highest rate (5.22) among the provinces. Even though Ontario had 201 murders, its rate (1.57) was below the national average (1.80).

Saskatchewan (3.01), Alberta (2.53) and British Columbia (2.01) rounded out the top four. Nunavut's seven murders gave it a rate of 22.50, highest of the territories.

Overall, Canada's homicide rate is on a downward trend. After rising through much of the 1960s and early 1970s, it changed direction in the mid-1970s. The 2007 rate is a further decline of three per cent from 2006.


© The StarPhoenix 2008

Source

Cambridgite Oct 24, 2008 3:18 AM

^ The article does make a point when talking about how Statscan measures the homocide rate on a per capita basis. As I learned in stats, accuracy tends to be distorted when you have a small sample size. Not to say that 9 homocides isn't significant or isn't a red light for a city the size of Saskatoon, but even a difference of 2 or 3 homocides can make a HUGE, statistically significant difference on the per capita figures. What if a village of 100 people had a murder? It would have the highest homocide rate in the nation by far, if comparing it to CMAs. You see what I'm getting at of course.

Vaillant Oct 24, 2008 5:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilippeMtl (Post 3871409)
Montreal is still at 15, we prefer riots here...

i agree with you:haha:

Ruckus Oct 24, 2008 5:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cambridgite (Post 3872539)
^ The article does make a point when talking about how Statscan measures the homocide rate on a per capita basis. As I learned in stats, accuracy tends to be distorted when you have a small sample size. Not to say that 9 homocides isn't significant or isn't a red light for a city the size of Saskatoon, but even a difference of 2 or 3 homocides can make a HUGE, statistically significant difference on the per capita figures. What if a village of 100 people had a murder? It would have the highest homocide rate in the nation by far, if comparing it to CMAs. You see what I'm getting at of course.

Very true.

More interesting to see is how murder rates relate to police funding/strategies for urban centres across Canada, and over time. Although, I suppose the courts need to be included to distribute blame equally, as well, the report must look at social services funding/strategies and how that relates...sounds like a Royal Commission approach :rolleyes:

ssiguy Oct 24, 2008 6:48 AM

London is still sitting at 2.

vid Oct 24, 2008 5:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cambridgite (Post 3872539)
What if a village of 100 people had a murder? It would have the highest homocide rate in the nation by far, if comparing it to CMAs. You see what I'm getting at of course.

Pikangikum has about 2,300 people and had a homicide recently, their rate is 45/100,000. They had 8 suicides a couple years ago, a rate of about 200/100,000, the highest in the world.

Aside from those rates fluctuating, the population of the reserve (and any reserve, really) fluctuates wildly. Fort William 52 grew by more than 50% between 2001 and 2006 but it's down by about 10% since then. It's around 830 now, according to the First Nation's record, though over 1,700 people are registered to it. (Most probably live in Thunder Bay, but are part of the band.)

MsMe Oct 27, 2008 5:16 AM

Hamilton’s sixth homicide of the year happened this weekend.

mersar Oct 27, 2008 5:43 AM

Calgary had #30 and #31 this morning, a shooting at a restaurant in the NE.

JuelzJones Oct 27, 2008 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rrskylar (Post 3871400)
We're #1 (Winnipeg FP)

Manitoba, Winnipeg murder capitals


Winnipeg and Manitoba are bucking the national trend in a most disturbing category - they now have the highest per capita rates of homicides, according to Statistics Canada.

Manitoba police reported 62 homicides in 2007, 23 more than in 2006. It is the province's highest level since data were first available in 1961.

That's a rate of 5.22 deaths per 100,000 residents. The next closest province was Saskatchewan where, with 30 homicides in 2007, the per capita rate was 3.01. In 2006, Saskatchewan had the highest rate, while Manitoba was second.

Most of the increase occurred in small urban and rural areas, Manitoba police said.

Nationally, there were 594 homicides, 12 (three per cent) fewer than in 2006, and it's a continuation of general downward trend since the mid-1970s.

Stabbings accounted for one-third of the deaths across Canada, while another third involved firearms. One in five homicides nationally were gang related.

While the overall rate of homicides committed with a firearm has generally been decreasing since the mid-1970s, the use of handguns has been on the rise. In 2007, handguns were used in two-thirds of all firearm homicides, up from about one-quarter 20 years ago.

Winnipeg, with 26 homicides in 2007, has a per capita rate of 3.55, the highest of all larger urban centres. Edmonton and Calgary followed, with rates of 3.28 and 3.14, respectively.

Five of the Winnipeg homicides involved firearms and five were gang related.


Actually that is wrong Toronto would be in Second place last year

Toronto had 84 Murders with a population of 2,550,000

That would equal a rate of 3.32/100,000

Toronto's population is no more than 2,600,000....and even that would put them in third place with 3.24/100,000

MonkeyRonin Oct 27, 2008 7:07 PM

Its by CMA. Toronto's had 111 homicides with a population 5.1 million, translating to 2.18/100,000 (official population, the reality is much higher, meaning an even lower rate).

Calgarian Oct 27, 2008 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mersar (Post 3877347)
Calgary had #30 and #31 this morning, a shooting at a restaurant in the NE.

Going to a restaurants and clubs has been dangerous here lately.

harls Nov 28, 2008 3:48 PM

Looks like Ottawa could have a double homicide on it's hands. Not sure where we're at now for the year..


http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Ottawa...61391-sun.html

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2 dead in highrise shooting

Police find dead, dying males in lobby of Prince of Wales Dr. apartment building

By JON WILLING, SUN MEDIA


Two males died in a shooting yesterday at an apartment building near Hog's Back.

Ottawa police said the shooting happened around 5:30 p.m. at 1435 Prince of Wales Dr.

Police Const. Alain Boucher said there seems to have been an "altercation" between the two victims.

The building was taped off last night as homicide investigators tried to piece together what happened.

Forensic identification officers dressed in white suits worked in the lobby and took pictures outside.

CANVASSING WITNESSES

Police set up a command post in the parking lot and several officers were canvassing for witnesses.

Both victims, who had not been identified, were found in the lobby. One was pronounced dead at the scene and the other died in hospital.

Police wouldn't confirm if it was a double homicide.

Several witnesses called 911 about a person with a gun in the area. Other witnesses reported shots fired.

Boucher said he didn't know if police recovered guns at the scene.

Police had no one in custody.

Residents said cameras record who enters the building.

Alex Liu, 30, said he saw paramedics with a stretcher bring a male out with a bandage around his neck and no shoes on his feet.

The male looked to be in his teens, Liu said.

Carleton University student Jessica Roche, 22, said she came home from work around the time of the shooting.

She said she saw a white car with five males outside the building before she went in.

"It's kinda scary," said Roche, reflecting on her avoiding being in the middle of gunplay.

She said the building is otherwise uneventful.

"I don't feel unsafe in my apartment," Roche said.

MOSTLY STUDENTS

Residents said the building is mostly made up of students and elderly people.

Many came home and were shocked by the crime scene at the 16-storey building.

"I'm just sad for the people that died," said Maggie, 22, who didn't want to give her last name.

A 76-year-old man, who has lived in the neighbouring building for 30 years, stared at the crime scene in disbelief.

"This is stunning to me," he said.

"This city has changed."

Anyone with information can call major crimes detectives at 613-236-1222, ext. 5849 or Crime Stoppers at 613-233-TIPS (8477).


Acajack Nov 28, 2008 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by harls (Post 3939796)
Looks like Ottawa could have a double homicide on it's hands. Not sure where we're at now for the year..


http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Ottawa...61391-sun.html

I think I heard Radio-Canada’s Ottawa station saying this morning these were murders number 7 and 8 for the year.


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