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rocketphish Sep 14, 2015 5:41 PM

807-825 Montreal Rd | 32m | 10f | Approved
 
An application has been received from The Darwin Group for the redevelopment of 807, 811, 817 and 825 Montreal Road. The site is located on the north side of Montreal Road between Codd’s Road and Lang’s Road. It has an area of 5,715.7m2 and a frontage of 76 metres along Montreal Road, and is currently vacant.

The proposal is for the development of a nine storey office building with a lobby entrance located along the west side of the building. The ground floor will be occupied by two commercial units with separate entrances along Montreal Road. Two levels of underground parking are proposed with some surface parking being provided at the rear and west of the building.

Development application:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__0SUEFY

chmiel architects

Rendering:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5819/...26b74859_b.jpg

Map:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/745/2...29156835_b.jpg

Siteplan:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/629/2...317e5d1a_b.jpg

waterloowarrior Apr 28, 2019 9:47 PM

updated design.... 10 fl
https://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans...appId=__0SUEFY
design review panel comments

https://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/plann...ecommendations

rocketphish Jan 18, 2020 4:24 AM

I didn't realize that this proposal had changed from an office building to a rental apartment building.

"The owners of 807-825 Montreal Road are proposing a 10-storey mixed-use apartment building containing 152 units and an adjacent 2-storey open air parking deck, serving both tenants and visitors."

The ground floor will be occupied by a residential lobby entrance at the south-west corner of the building, and commercial units with separate entrances along Montreal Road. Two levels of above-grade parking are proposed at the rear of the site with some commercial surface parking provided at the east of the building.

The proposed mixed-use building will include commercial/retail uses on the ground floor and residential units throughout the remainder of the building. Units range from 497 sq.ft to 1200 sq.ft with unit types varying from studios to two bedrooms.

Unit breakdown:
Levels 2-4: 19 units (1 x guest, 14 x 1 br, 4 x 2 br)
Levels 5-6: 19 units (1 x studio, 13 x 1 br, 5 x 2 br)
Levels 7-9: 18 units (1 x studio, 14 x 1 br, 3 x 2 br)
Levels 10: 3 units (2 x 1 bed+den, 1 x 2 bed)
Total: 152 units (3 x guest, 5 x studio, 112 x 1 br, 32 x 2 br)

Architect: Figurr Architect Collective

https://i.imgur.com/p2kd5af.png

https://i.imgur.com/TA8PLx0.png

rocketphish Jan 17, 2021 3:55 AM

Approved on 2020-12-01 with a slightly updated design:

https://i.imgur.com/Aa340yE.png

https://i.imgur.com/Ze0YGXg.png

https://i.imgur.com/jNNsYUK.png

Kolonel Mar 9, 2024 9:39 PM

Anyone know why the delay on development on this one? Darwin Group, I believe?

rocketphish Mar 9, 2024 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolonel (Post 10161229)
Anyone know why the delay on development on this one? Darwin Group, I believe?

Welcome to the forum! :cheers:

I don't have an answer for you, but according to the Environmental Site Assessment:

"Paterson was engaged to conduct this Phase I – ESA by Mr. Anthony Nicolini, of Darwin Group Ottawa, whose office is located at 183 Michael Cowpland Drive, Ottawa, Ontario. Mr. Nicolini can be reached by telephone at (613) 224-6200."

https://webcast.ottawa.ca/plan/All_I...201%20ESA5.PDF

rocketphish Mar 9, 2024 11:27 PM

You've launched me down an interesting rathole.

A little more digging turned up a rendering of this building on the Ark Construction Ltd. website, which seems to be one of the Darwin Group of companies, along with Nivo Developments Inc. and RNR Ottawa Inc. They are all now based at 255 Michael Cowpland Drive, and associated with the Nicolini family.

Ark Construction doesn't seem to have ever worked on a project as large as this one. But Nivo Developments does seem to have an active residential enclave project underway in Manotick, so they still exist.
https://www.elevationmanotick.ca/

https://i.imgur.com/uNBFjaJ.png
https://www.arkconstruction.ca/development

ponyboycurtis Mar 10, 2024 6:16 AM

It's a BarcWhite :haha: you know.. on account of what seems to be wood panel.

This plot of land has been an eyesore for a long time. Would be nice to see this, the old Chinese food place and the old service station at Blair get rolling.

vtecyo Mar 10, 2024 8:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolonel (Post 10161229)
Anyone know why the delay on development on this one? Darwin Group, I believe?

Previous development on that stretch of Montreal Rd had affected the well water that all the houses on Fairhaven Way rely on - according to this : https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...tion-1.6257543

According to Geo Ottawa - there's no city water, and no sewer service (or fire hydrants) for that street. Apparently it would cost $1m per house to connect them all up - since the houses are build on bedrock. I assume that price is for all three services.

However - the builder could just pay for some water treatment equipment for each house - assuming they don't already have their own.

UV water sterilizers for an entire home are only $500 to $600 CDN, and they're extremely effective. Then there's reverse osmosis filters and ozone generators. Assuming the problem is just bacteria and viruses, then this should be a non-issue.

I hope they already have something - I wouldn't want to drink untreated ground water.

Williamoforange Mar 11, 2024 3:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtecyo (Post 10161686)
Previous development on that stretch of Montreal Rd had affected the well water that all the houses on Fairhaven Way rely on - according to this : https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...tion-1.6257543

According to Geo Ottawa - there's no city water, and no sewer service (or fire hydrants) for that street. Apparently it would cost $1m per house to connect them all up - since the houses are build on bedrock. I assume that price is for all three services.

However - the builder could just pay for some water treatment equipment for each house - assuming they don't already have their own.

UV water sterilizers for an entire home are only $500 to $600 CDN, and they're extremely effective. Then there's reverse osmosis filters and ozone generators. Assuming the problem is just bacteria and viruses, then this should be a non-issue.

I hope they already have something - I wouldn't want to drink untreated ground water.

The nimbyism from the locals and King is ridiculous, why do councilors in Ottawa continue to default to allowing less housing to be built inside the cities urban boundary.

Like you've stated there are solutions other then Kings (another Horizon Ottawa councilor) default to limiting density. The city could just also pay for the sewer & water with the end result being the properties are rezoned the properties.

OTownandDown Mar 11, 2024 3:08 PM

The Fairhaven kingdom must be protected at all costs! *said with gusto*

That and the Fairhaven people keep getting shafted regarding their well water, and they have pretty good reason to oppose.

If the City would lay water for Fairhaven, this project wouldn't be such an issue, I think.

J.OT13 Mar 11, 2024 3:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtecyo (Post 10161686)
Previous development on that stretch of Montreal Rd had affected the well water that all the houses on Fairhaven Way rely on - according to this : https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...tion-1.6257543

According to Geo Ottawa - there's no city water, and no sewer service (or fire hydrants) for that street. Apparently it would cost $1m per house to connect them all up - since the houses are build on bedrock. I assume that price is for all three services.

However - the builder could just pay for some water treatment equipment for each house - assuming they don't already have their own.

UV water sterilizers for an entire home are only $500 to $600 CDN, and they're extremely effective. Then there's reverse osmosis filters and ozone generators. Assuming the problem is just bacteria and viruses, then this should be a non-issue.

I hope they already have something - I wouldn't want to drink untreated ground water.

Wasn't aware of this. How strange.

Kolonel Mar 17, 2024 2:36 PM

Thanks for the welcome. The Ph1 ESA comes much earlier in the development progress and is a required part of the site plan submission. They would have had to complete both Ph1 and Ph2 ESA to obtain their site plan approval which was done a number of years ago.

Interesting article about the community behind. Not sure why one small group of single family homes should trump the development of a large multi-family apartment block.


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