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Check out this nice video presentation of the Parisian CBD

http://www.ladefense.fr/goodies.php

Press map :eek:

http://www.ladefense.fr/presse_dossier_presse.php

Optical renderings:

View from Paris - Arc de Triomphe:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/9...riomphe1hb.jpg


View from Paris - Bois de Boulogne:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6...oulogne4ik.jpg


View from Levallois (north-west of Paris):

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/1294/fromlp2ht.jpg

^^ You can see on the left the new AXA tower (CB31) after renovation. It's for sure much bigger than the 3 180m+ towers which are for now the highest in LD


View from Puteaux (South of La Défense):

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7...puteaux1ek.jpg

The 3 biggest towers (250 to 400 meters) will be build around the Grande Arch!


Last view, toward Paris city center:

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4...dsparis8uo.jpg




Very promising isn't it :)

Niiiiice, ai lajk :tup:

Whoa, cool!!!!

I wonder if the renovated AXA tower will look like the rendering in those "visions". It would be the first skyscraper with a spire in La Défense.

When is the renovation of AXA going to begin or are there no official plans yet?

I'm not sure.
But I guess that the final plans are not finalized yet.

If the renovated tower is taller, it'll probably need approval. That' won't be easy because AXA is located at a very prominent site.

Very nice. Good for Paris. ;)

Posted by Fabb in another section on SSP ,

The renovated AXA Tower

http://static.flickr.com/35/117177822_3324c261c2_o.jpg

thats killer!! I love La Defense already, with this there is soo much more to love.

I saw a Jean Nouvel 200m tower mentioned in another thread. Whats the deal with that one? Any info?

the official scale modell

http://static.flickr.com/54/118020040_93d77aee7c_o.jpg

Those renderings show relatively fat new skyscrapers. I'm a little surprised and I can't wait to see the first proposals.

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6285/jn52xd.jpg

Still a mystery...it's on the J.Nouvel website however.

Another prosal:

Air Tower, 140 m (odd name for a LD tower)

http://static.flickr.com/40/121679768_b429ba0ac4_o.jpg

Both are nice.
Of course, Nouvel's design is fantastic. Hopefully, it's not an older, failed project.

What is the story on the Méridien hotel ?

Sad to see no one is updating this thread....

Well, the projects should have been released this month.
I'd be surprised if they came on time though.

merci grumpy

the T1 construction site a few days ago:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM5908.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM5902.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4728.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4750.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4751.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4789.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4794.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4742.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4795.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...r/HPIM4804.jpg

Nice photos !
CBX looks like the big fat bitch behind Europe.
I'm glad it doesn't have a flat roof.

More info about the T1 construction site:

http://www.t1-defense.com

from an unusual angle

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8...4735a1280x.jpg

I've never thought of this before, I've always thought it was a monument.. Is Le Grande Arche an office building?

it is one office building with an exhibition floor on top :)

It contains a public administration (ministère de l'aménagement) as well as officies and a big conference room under the roof.

Comme qu'on dit en bon Québecois: TABARNAC!!!;)

Incroyable toutes ces nouvelles tours! avez plus de détails sur ces nouvelles constructions?

nice rendering from the completed tower in a few years:

http://www.t1-defense.com/v6.jpg

T1 a few days ago , pictures from "eric"

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2491/t124dut6.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5739/t124fzs8.jpg

La Defence really deserves theese... :)

the defense and the 2nd European district of business after Frankfurt its truths?

I guess London is the biggest business centre in Europe :dunno:

Ridiculous. They have just mimiced 30Ste Mary Axe and the Freedom Tower in this rendering.

Well, what can we do about it? Legend says that Ivan the Terrible ordered the eyes of the Basil's Cathedral architects poked so that they would never be able to create anything that rivals it. These days there are few if any restrictions on copycat designs...

The biggest business districts in europe are the Opera district in Paris and the City of London; both around 7 million square meters.

La Défense is the biggest district of that kind in europe, with about 3 to 3.5 million square meters.

Oh, btw that (fake and inaccurate) rendering from the newspaper doesn't mimice 30 st mary axe, but T1 tower. :rolleyes:
Tho there's a freedom tower and a mini-burj dubai, but they're just there to represent what the district could look like in a few years. This is nothing official anyway, in case some people didn't get it...

fortunately
I will not like La Defense with those building.
the mini-burj is in reality the renovation of the Tour Assur or Tour Axa (225 m ).

Construction of T1 tower

cladding is arrived

http://perso.orange.fr/p2r92/Media/T1_04.09.2006.jpg
http://www.t1-defense.com/t1-29h.jpg
http://www.t1-defense.com/bat-c2-30a.jpg
http://www.t1-defense.com/t1-29c.jpg
http://www.t1-defense.com/t1-29j.jpg

Official Rendering of the T1 tower

http://www.t1-defense.com/accueil.gif

T1 tower is very nice, it adds a lot to the surroundings ^

Here is another rendering on the renovated Tour AXA:

http://www.cogedim-entreprise.com/im.../TOUR-CB31.jpg


And here is a diagram of the tower I've created for SSP:

http://mapage.noos.fr/marla13/diagra..._pss_small.gif
larger version

Unfortunately, I can't upload it yet to the SSP database. Apparently, diagrams of renovated towers can't be uploaded before the renovation has started. :(

I can't wait for that one.
How long is the renovation supposed to last ?

The cladding of T1 is green ? yuck :shuffle:

some aerial pictures of LD:

http://lafrancevueduciel.free.fr/pho...ghdef/6046.jpg

http://lafrancevueduciel.free.fr/pho...ghdef/6052.jpg

please notice the strange curves on the roof of the Exaltis building:
http://lafrancevueduciel.free.fr/pho...ghdef/6048.jpg

nice aerials!!!

Is this project : Hotel Méridien still alive ?

http://www.auralab.com/galerie01/hidef01.jpg

Yeah it is. That building should be inaugurated in 2009, at about the same period as the inauguration of the renovated AXA tower.

This part of La Défense near the banks of the Seine should massively change in the next 10 years. There is a project to build a pedestrian bridge above the Pont de Neuilly which is thought as a direct extension of La Défense esplanade on the Avenue Charles-de-Gaulle in Neuilly-sur-Seine. In the same project, two highrise buildings of 150 m are proposed in Neuilly on the other side of the Seine.

The Axe Historique, starting at the Louvre and continuing through the Champs-Elysées, will really become something outstanding if everything goes well. The A14 motorway which is crossing La Défense underground should be connected to the périphérique with the project consisting in making the RN13 highway underground, below the Avenue Charles-de-Gaulle in Neuilly. That project will have as consequence to erase all disrupts on the Axe Historique, which will become something perfectly integrated from La Défense to the Arc de Triomphe (Pedestrian bridge between La Défense and Neuilly, reorganization of Porte Maillot).

Very impressive. From the aerial pictures it would appear that the immediate area around La Defense isn't quite as prosperous as the area around Canary Wharf with the swaves of yuppie flats that are going up. That said, go a couple of miles away and you're in the poorest area of London...

I disagree, the immediate area around La Défense is actually very prosperous and very well-furnished. A lot more than around Canary Wharf. Granted few buildings of yuppies are built nearby CW, but that can't be compared with the old and rich municipalities of Courbevoie, Puteaux and Neuilly.

The only place in the immediate area around La Défense which isn't well built is Nanterre, right behind the Grande Arche. It used to be an industrial area. However, that's exactly the place where the major constructions are currently taking place. It's called "Seine-Arche" and consists actually in building a whole new district dedicated to business.

Canary Wharf is actually a lot more peripherical than La Défense is. I know that people are suspicious when they hear so because CW is in the Greater London when LD isn't located in the City of Paris, but you shouldn't be misleaded by the very different administrative organization of both cities.

La Défense is fully part of the dense core of Paris. The whole area between La Défense and the center of Paris is very densely built and consists exclusively of appartment buildings. A significant number of them being built as soon as during the 19th century. LD is located on the historical axis starting at the Louvre and continuing through the Champs-Elysées and the Arc de Triomphe. And that historical axis is currently extended further than La Défense with the new Seine Arche business district. At the opposite, CW is separated from the City of London by a wide area made of residential houses.

LD is clearly better located and better connected to the city center than is CW. As for the the immediate surroundings of both district, I would clearly like better to live in Courbevoie than in Greenwich.

Paris will get a SWFC, a Freedom Tower, a SwissRe and a Burj Dubai dwarf? Cool! :)
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5...6ld2015ex5.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenL From the aerial pictures it would appear that the immediate area around La Defense isn't quite as prosperous as the area around Canary Wharf with the swaves of yuppie flats that are going up.

Actually, as Metropolitan already said, La Défense is located in a very wealthy area. Notably, it is located right across the Seine River from Neuilly-sur-Seine, which is one of the richest communities in Europe.

In any case, statistics are better than subjective points of view. Here are statistics I found. La Défense is surrounded by 3 communes (municipalities): Neuilly-sur-Seine, Courbevoie, and Puteaux. In absolute terms, the average monthly income for a resident household in Neuilly-sur-Seine is 6,250 euros (£4,230). Monthly I said. In Courbevoie, the average monthly income for a resident household is 2,537 euros (£1,717). In Puteaux it is 2,143 euros (£1,450). I don't think that you can seriously claim than an area where households earn on average between 2,143 and 6,250 euros per month is a destitute area.

Now in relative terms, in 2004 the median fiscal income for a resident household was:
- in Neuilly-sur-Seine: 2.3 times (i.e. 130%) above French average, and 91% above Île-de-France (Greater Paris) average
- in Courbevoie: 52% above French average, and 27% above Greater Paris average
- in Puteaux: 28% above French average, and 7% above Greater Paris average
Again, hardly a destitute area.

Note that all these statistics concern resident households, i.e. people who live in these three communes (municipalities) surrounding La Défense. They do not concern the companies located in the area.