[St. John's] Transport development (Highways, Airport, and Public Transit)
This Thread is to discuss development in Highways, St. John's International Airport, and Public Transit in the St. John's Area
AIRPORT http://www.destinationstjohns.ca/ima...re/airport.jpg Airport Authority Unveils its 10-year Vision for Airport Improvements Quote:
METROBUS https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/im...jeq0BaaWQmtceQ Transit study recommends increased investment and regional transit service Quote:
The Essential Transit Association: http://www.essentialtransit.com/inde...ion&id=stjohns Metrobus website: www.metrobus.com/ MOUNT PEARL TRANSIT Let's Talk Transit - Public Transit Study Quote:
Highways MAPS Team Gushue: http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/publications...sion_route.pdf CBS Bypass: http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/publications...y_proposed.pdf Team Gushue Highway completion http://www.pbase.com/image/142375758.jpg Quote:
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I think this is a step in the right direction:
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Mount Pearl is pretty dense, so in a way they could have a very efficient transit system. However, for it's relatively small population base and high car numbers, a big investment for its own transit may be a waste of money. Idealy Metrobus would be scrapped in favor of a regional bus service, but a more realistic approach here would be for Mount Pearl to increase investment in Metrobus services. I know the city isn't pleased with the service they get (2 busses for a population center of 25,000) but they're essentially getting what they pay for. Maybe they could pay a bit extra for a few extra routes, including maybe some that only run in the Mount Pearl area, and not in a circle from the Village through the city? I'm sure St. John's wouldn't mind, as long as Mount Pearl was fronting the bill for the Mount Pearl-only bus routes.
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Here is some information regarding the Team Gushue highway and CBS Bypass extension for this thread:
The Telegram - Jan 24, 2012 Quote:
http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/publications...sion_route.pdf Here is another link showing the CBS Bypass extension (this map is not as clear as the Gushue PDF). http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/publications...y_proposed.pdf |
Mount Pearl could have small buses that go through the city and Metrobus could have one or two locations where they pick up people. The smaller buses could revolve around those area[s] so that people can still use Metrobus to get into St. John's but they'd have their own bus system that could get them into more areas of Mount Pearl. They could partner with Paradise.
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statbass, Thanks for the links to the highway extensions.
The CBS one is currently pushed through on that route with the base in place. It looks ready for final prep and blacktop this year. Now that is only from either end. Maybe there is still lots of work in the center interchange or something else that we can't see. The Gushue Extension would be a great addition. Nice routing too. It's the first time I've seen it. I have to say I'd like to see more busses, but better traffic flow is also a hugh improvement to any city/metro area. |
Team Gushue Ext. Scope of Work
[QUOTE=statbass;5635824]Here is some information regarding the Team Gushue highway and CBS Bypass extension for this thread:......................
I also found this description of the work to be performed on the Team Gushue Extension. It is from the Canadian Environmental Assessment page; "Project Description (as posted in the Notice of Commencement) The Team Gushue Highway project will begin at the existing interchange on Kenmount Road, linking to the completed 2.3 km Bifurcation Road between the Outer Ring Road (the Trans-Canada Highway) and Kenmount Road. The project will terminate at the existing interchange between Commonwealth Avenue, Goulds Bypass, and Pitts Memorial Drive. In addition, a connector road, Pennywell Extension, will start at the intersection of the Old and New Pennywell Roads and end at a new interchange/intersection with the Team Gushue Highway just south of the Old Pennywell Road. The scope of work to be undertaken consists of the following components: - 7.1 km of four-lane divided, controlled access highway (100 km/hr max.), 1.5 km of a two-lane connector road (Pennywell Extension), and two (2) drainage culverts at Kitty Gaul's Brook and Flynn's Brook; - Six new interchanges/intersections constructed to connect with existing roads at the following locations: (i)Twinning of the Kenmount Road Overpass - $1,900,000; (ii)Pennywell Extension - $1,800,000; (iii)Captain Whelan Drive/George's Pond Road - $1,800,000; (iv)Topsail Road - $5,500,000; (v)Brookfield Road (east of Pearltown Road) - $3,000,000; and (vi)Brookfield Road between Heavy Tree Road and Tobin's Road. - Two (2) non-connecting overpasses over the Old Pennywell Road and Blackmarsh Road; and, - A long span culvert at the Waterford River. " |
I updated the info in the first post adding highways, thank you for the info however i couldnt figure out a way to put an image of the maps in the post
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Mount Pearl could run probably 3 routes in the city at all times, maybe 4-5 for the busier rush hours and route them into a central location to meet Metrobus. I don't know Mount Pearl very well, but I would assume that if they operated a system just within their city they would get decent ridership numbers to the industrial parks. The key to the system would be Metrobus putting in a good connector from Mount Pearl to the institutes and downtown St. John's. |
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Overpass Project Waiting for Warm Weather Quote:
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Street Repair Plans Announced
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Some updated information regarding the CBS bypass extension:
Bridge work tendered for C.B.S. bypass extension Source: The Telegram, April 16, 2012 Quote:
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Hard to tell by looking at the Bifurcation Road route map, but does anyone know if the highway is going to cross over Blackmarsh Road via and overpass or go under Blackmarsh Road. Surely they wouldn't be putting a intersection there would they?
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Blackmarsh Road over/under pass
I understood that Blackmarsh road was a non-connecting overpass, but I've heard people say it's an underpass. Looks to me like an overpass, by the amount of material they are piling up on the North side. Here's a description that was posted a few weeks ago -
The scope of work to be undertaken consists of the following components: - 7.1 km of four-lane divided, controlled access highway (100 km/hr max.), 1.5 km of a two-lane connector road (Pennywell Extension), and two (2) drainage culverts at Kitty Gaul's Brook and Flynn's Brook; - Six new interchanges/intersections constructed to connect with existing roads at the following locations: (i)Twinning of the Kenmount Road Overpass - $1,900,000; (ii)Pennywell Extension - $1,800,000; (iii)Captain Whelan Drive/George's Pond Road - $1,800,000; (iv)Topsail Road - $5,500,000; (v)Brookfield Road (east of Pearltown Road) - $3,000,000; and (vi)Brookfield Road between Heavy Tree Road and Tobin's Road. - Two (2) non-connecting overpasses over the Old Pennywell Road and Blackmarsh Road; and, - A long span culvert at the Waterford River. |
Here is the map showing the CBS bypass extension.
http://www.tw.gov.nl.ca/publications...y_proposed.pdf |
Does anyone know when the new runway lighting system will be installed at St. John's International Airport? Is is supposed to be this year? Given all the cancelled and delayed flight this past week, you'd think it'd be a good idea to put an utmost priority on this project. Cancellations due to fog happens every year around this time; the lighting system can't come soon enough. :whip:
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A news story I watched over the weekend said the upgrade project would begin late this year and be completed in late 2013.
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Out of the fog
Speak of the devil......
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^ I'm back home in Nova Scotia visiting family, but my close friend was away on business in Montreal, and supposed to fly back to St. John's Friday afternoon. He got stranded, along with many others, and so he had an unexpected weekend in Halifax. Ended up getting out Sunday night, only to be re-directed once they were in the air and landed in Gander. At 11pm he messaged me informing me he was on his way back to St. John's from Gander. After our nights out in Halifax, plus his late night drive, I can't imagine that Monday morning was fun for him.
Morale of the story though, better lighting can't come soon enough. Given the weather in St. John's, which is no secret to anyone, staying on the cutting end of such technology should be the top priority of the airport. Same for winter conditions too. Once of the worst aspects of doing business on the island is flying off it. It is incredibly unreliable. The end of 2013 seems awful far away. |
Does anyone know the status of the new access road to the airport? I believe it is supposed to be completed this year, and that it is going to be a four lane road, but I am not sure.
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http://www.stjohnsairport.com/press/...tail.cfm?id=26 |
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Access road will begin next month.
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St. John's International Airport to Double in Size
Source: VOCM, May 16, 2012
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It's great to see some headway on this project. I'm looking forward to seeing the final product, although that's a few years out. |
Numbers up across board for St. John’s airport
Source: The Telegram, May 16, 2012
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There is also a news story on VOCM's web page today about the airport expansion and a link to schematics of the expansion plans which look very interesting. http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...23199&latest=1
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Broadening public transit
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Lobbying for More Direct Flights to Ireland
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Update on Airport Expansion
Source: VOCM, June 20, 2012
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I don't think this article adds anything new to what was previously know about the airport expansion but I thought it would be a good idea to post here anyway. :) |
The airport expansion is much needed. St. John's International is stunning as is, however the post-security side of the airport is lacking. Hopefully with the expansion some extras could be added (restaurant, bar, etc), along with more terminals which are definitely needed. Hopefully with such an expansion the airport can look at more potential destinations for direct flights (Boston comes to mind)
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One thing I was upset to not see in the plans for the airport expansion was a parking structure. I use longterm parking a few times throughout the year and absolutely hate when winter comes along and I have to come back to a car that is buried in snow and ice and with snow plowed up level with the hood of my car, leaving me to dig it out. I think every other major airport I've been to in my life has a parking garage. Now, it looks as though they are putting the long term parking even further away, having to clear additional land for it. Given the horrible weather conditions a lot of the time here, there should be a covered walkway leading to a parking garage. This would make everyone happy as opposed to battling snow, ice, wind, rain, etc., carrying several bags/suitcases and trying to get them in your car without freezing, blowing away or becoming soaking wet.
Sorry, bit of a rant but I was just hoping they were going to build one. |
Rut Repairs
Some well needed road repairs are coming up...
Source: VOCM, July 4, 2012 Quote:
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St. John's International Airport has posted their ten-year capital plan on their website. It also has a link to a detailed pdf of the upgrades and expansions which are planned (which are much more visible than in the video we have seen)
http://www.stjohnsairport.com/index/index.cfm?id=190 |
Mount Pearl to Review Transit System
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I hope they do something good that can be connected to the st. john's transit system easily and efficiently.. all the same I'm happy they are talking about it because it is just a step towards some form of regional transit (even if they end up operating their portion themselves) |
St. John's Airport Showing Strong Numbers
Source: VOCM, July 10, 2012.
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Airport seeing growth every month
More news about the growth of STJ International Airport:
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Anyone on here know why the #3 highway hasn't progressed onto Brookfield Rd yet? It seems to come right up to it and then there is a house in the way. Have there been any announcements as the when Brookfield Rd might be shut down?
It's really going to suck for Lesters Farm Market when the road goes into construction. Maybe they are waiting until the busy season is over. |
Any info on the development of the Kenmount/Topsail overpass?
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The only overpass work that's been contracted was for the twinning of Kenmount Road. No contracts have been let for the other overpasses/underpasses, don't know what the delay is for that. They could easily be doing concrete work at some of these. None of these projects seem in any hurry, likewise for
major water/sewer work - Elizabeth avenue may well be closed into September, the busiest time of the year, yet there's little/no work at night or weekends. Isn't there ever any performance penalties on these projects? |
^ I believe some of the projects are delayed because of a shortage of the necessary workers. I forget if I read that somewhere credible or overheard it at a coffee shop, though. :|
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The extension of the CBS bypass between Kelligrews and Seal Cove is coming along. I believe they are in the middle of constructing a bridge to cross a small brook. I also read recently a tender has been issued for paving; I'm guessing that'll start sometime in September.
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Howto get around
Another story on the collective need for a regional public transit system.
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If there was some sort of park-and-ride system established here I, for one, would be more than happy to use the service. |
This has been reported by Townie709 on the St. John's main project thread but I thought it would be a good idea to post here:
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I was looking at the twitter pic of the Kenmount overpass posted by Townie709 and, I'm not 100% sure, but it looks as if traffic is moving on the overpass in both directions. I'm pretty sure the overpass was to be upgraded to four lanes. Is it that there's only one of two overpass built yet or am I totally off-base? Does anyone have info on this?
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