The towers shown above in post 7 are just place holders. No final designs for any of the towers have been released, so there's plenty of time to change some elements of those largely glass boxes to make them more interesting. I'm just happy that this is showing an increasing amount of life.
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However, I do expect the concept of Related's office towers (3 overall) to be similar to the Time Warner Center. There will be a large retail base, followed by offices, and finally topped by residential (25 floors of residential for the first tower). |
Related's original site plan for the railyards...
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/90554064/large.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/89337909/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/90554073/original.jpg |
Robert A.M. Stern is designing the new office tower. I have not seen a rendering though and don't know if a design has been produced.
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http://www.globest.com/news/1812_181.../305414-1.html
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In retrospect I’m glad that Related got behind this project; they just seem like they have their act together.
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I have a feeling that the owners of the Empire State Building would complain even more now with 15 Penn Plaza and the Hudson Yards Projects designed as supertalls. The view of the Empire State Building would be blocked now.
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Hudson Yards is as-of-right. There's no needed city approvals. If a developer wants to build a super-tall, he can go right ahead.
The Vornado Penn Plaza tower required City Council approval, and so was a totally different situation. It sailed through quite easily, though. I don't think there was really much controversy. NYC is a media hothouse, and anything like this will generate press from naysayers, but it doesn't mean that something like this was super-controversial. |
http://newyorkrealestate.citybizlist...velopment.aspx
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A few more generic renderings taken from the website...
http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602...rformance=true This rendering shows where the High Line meets the High Line spur, as well as the Cultural building that will be a part of the site (left, more on that later). The large base would be the first tower. http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1045213.jpg Looking east on 33rd over the plaza and the Time Warner Center-like office and retail development. http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1045214.jpg Subway station (minus the former World Product Center proposal) http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1045215.jpg The office towers that form the eastern border will sit atop 5 levels of retail... http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602...rformance=true http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1045216.jpg A hotel will also be on site, just south of Extell's former WPC site... http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602...rformance=true And a generic view of the development... http://www.bluemelon.com/photo/18602/1045218.jpg |
related wants the highline spur removed. i heard them say so myself at a highline meeting. it's something to keep a vigilant eye on. otherwise, glad to hear this almost unbelievably massive project is officially underway! :cheers:
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Thanks for the update. I always forget how incredibly massive this development truly is. The towers in the last photo are huggeeeee, 1 Penn Plaza is a 750 footer and looks tiny. It's fantastic to see some actual work on this project has started or will very shortly. Us NYers are so spoiled.
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As has been stated, the renders are very impressive. There is a lot to look forward to, not only with this development but all the others that will follow suit.
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Also, the buildings depicted above are still just concepts not final designs? And I noticed some Alexander Calder sculptures in those renderings. Just an observation. |
The towers just look like massing models to obviously give an idea of height/skyline impact.
But my question here is this.... As this is the part of the Island that hasn't (till now apparently) built vertical owing almost exclusively to bedrock depth, what is the intended approach, particularly foundation-wise? Just digging really deep? Lighter superstructure material i.e., aluminum? Sorry to steer the thread like this; but I am interested in knowing..and being corrected if I'm wrong ;). |
Actually that answer would be laying 8,000 miles away in Tokyo, Japan. In Tokyo the bedrock is 1 mile and a half feet down. So instead of digging to bedrock, and they are building in a earthquake zone they would bore several holes into the ground and pour concrete into them, then they would pour a solid concrete layer on top, and in total it would be as strong as bedrock itself.
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So the reason it hasn't been developed is because it doesn't really exist yet. Also, the entire neighborhood had the wrong zoning. Developers have been sitting on land for many years, just waiting for the neighborhood to be rezoned. As for foundations, modern day engineering can build a skyscraper anywhere. Bedrock isn't really important. If anything, it makes skyscraper construction more expensive. |
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