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Busy Bee Feb 18, 2016 12:29 AM

So how might these plans change if Junior's decides to sell?

Zapatan Feb 18, 2016 12:45 AM

Holy freak! I love it :)

It also looks like something out of Half Life... kinda

NYguy Feb 18, 2016 1:20 AM

http://gothamist.com/2016/02/17/hell_oh_brooklyn.php

Cower Impotently Before Brooklyn's Forthcoming 1,000-Foot Monster Tower


BY REBECCA FISHBEIN
FEB 17, 2016


Quote:

With Manhattan set to become one giant pincushion at last, the skyscrapers have set their sights on Brooklyn, and a 73-story monster is expected to tower above Downtown Brooklyn
in the near-ish future. Brooklyn is over! New York is dead! No more sunlight ever! Real estate expensive! Buildings tall! Where is Omaha, do they have Chipotle there?



SkyscrapersOfNewYork Feb 18, 2016 1:44 AM

Thats stunning!!!! Bravo!!!!

timpdx Feb 18, 2016 2:26 AM

Good lord, build it....build it now! :worship:

NYRebel Feb 18, 2016 4:44 AM

YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!

Please build her. PLEASE! ! !

Such a beauty. This will be such a great addition to the already fantastic skyline of NYC!

giantSwan Feb 18, 2016 5:27 AM

is this made of cor-teen steel?

urbanlife Feb 18, 2016 5:49 AM

I wonder what the final built building will actually look like, but it is good to see downtown Brooklyn becoming a lightning rod for tall towers.

dumbo Feb 18, 2016 11:58 AM

beautiful

Thefigman Feb 18, 2016 4:39 PM

Stunning!

chris08876 Feb 18, 2016 5:15 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbcyX-qUUAAGF4H.jpg
Credit: https://twitter.com/darth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Makes sense. The eye is watching the NIMBYS. Planning the incoming invasion of high rises on predominately low rise Queens Neighborhoods.

Some say Gale Brewer was an orc. She defected though, and quit her allegiance to the development machine.

scalziand Feb 18, 2016 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giantSwan (Post 7339839)
is this made of cor-teen steel?

If it's anything like Steinway it'll be more bronze and terra cotta.

patriotizzy Feb 18, 2016 9:26 PM

This NEEDS to be built. It is New York through and through. One does NOT simply tease us with such extraordinary architecture (especially nowadays with endless glass boxes). This, to me, is the project of the decade for New York. 111W 57th looks amazing and all, but this just completely takes all my excitement.

I would seriously donate to a funding account if it needed financial help haha!

Busy Bee Feb 18, 2016 10:55 PM

So how might these plans change if Junior's decides to sell?

UTEPman Feb 18, 2016 11:49 PM

If this tower stays as is, it may be the best example of exemplary architecture in NY

NYguy Feb 19, 2016 1:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 7340862)
So how might these plans change if Junior's decides to sell?

Junior's had reportedly decided not to sell, but there still was the matter of air rights above Junior's. I'm not sure if that has come into play yet, but it would make sense to use them here:

http://www.masseyknakal.com/download...incipal_CA.pdf

Quote:

Existing : 17,000 SF
Air Rights : 85,576 SF
Total development rights : 102,576 SF


More info here...
http://www.masseyknakal.com/download...-_Brochure.pdf



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/09/ny...move.html?_r=1

Junior’s, Legendary Restaurant, Is to Stay in Brooklyn
Owner of Junior’s Rethinks a Move


By VIVIAN YEE
SEPT. 8, 2014


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When Mr. Rosen, 45, put the site up for sale in February, he said he would insist that the buyer bring Junior’s back to the ground floor of any new building. In the meantime, he said, the restaurant would open at another Brooklyn location and temporarily relocate the flagship within the neighborhood. (It also has outposts in Times Square, Grand Central Terminal and at Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut.) But he wavered over the summer, saying he would consider leaving the building permanently for the right offer.

The $45 million offer would not have accommodated a ground-floor Junior’s.

Mr. Rosen said he also received offers worth half that amount that would have allowed the restaurant to return, but after receiving disappointed calls from customers and talking it over with his longtime employees, his wife and his 81-year-old father, Walter Rosen, who still walks around the dining room some mornings, he decided he could not give it up.

Though Mr. Rosen insists the turnabout was a personal decision, not an attempt to preserve the old Downtown Brooklyn of which Junior’s is one of the few remnants, he is bucking a trend.

Once, Junior’s was the flashiest place around, bathing the corner of Flatbush Avenue Extension and DeKalb Avenue in neon-lit glory as presidents and princes flocked to its cheesecake cases. Now it is overshadowed, literally, by a nearby thicket of glassy spires that has risen over the past decade. Developers have built more than 30 apartment towers in the neighborhood, with nearly 30 more on the way....

NYguy Feb 19, 2016 1:52 AM

It was just a matter of time before we start to read this garbage...


http://www.amny.com/real-estate/supe...nts-1.11487363

Supertall Brooklyn building proposal finds fury among area’s residents

By Ivan Pereira and Ann W. Schmidt
February 18, 2016


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A proposed 1,066 foot-tall skyscraper in the heart of Downtown Brooklyn has fury soaring among residents and community groups over concerns the neighborhood will be vertically engulfed by “supertalls.”

JDS Development Group and the Chetrit Group revealed their plans this week for the 73-story residential building at 9 DeKalb Avenue, which would be the tallest structure in the borough and sit right next to the iconic Junior’s restauarnt.

The design didn’t sit well with some Brooklynites, who said the building’s towering stature will destroy the neighborhood’s character.

“This is becoming more and more like skyscraper Manhattan-type of living,” said Kenneth Peterkin, 52, of Bed-Stuy. “Instead of office buildings, they’re building these high rise apartments and how many of us can really, honestly, get into them?”

Mario Messina, an over-development watchdog, said the tower is a strong indication that the “supertall” trend hitting in parts of Manhattan has crossed the East River.

“These tall buildings turn the neighborhood into high rise wastelands,” he said. “When the developers see that they don’t have any more room to butcher Manhattan, they will go elsewhere.”


JDS and Chetrit can build the tower as of right, due to zoning changes for Downtown Brooklyn that were enacted in 2004. However, they need to get approval from the city’s Landmark Preservation Commission to remove part of the Brooklyn Dime Savings Bank building, which is on the same block. A LPC spokeswoman declined to comment ahead of the agency’s hearing about the plan on March 15.

JDS declined to comment about 9 DeKalb Avenue.

City Councilman Jumaane Williams, who chairs the council’s housing committee, called the development “concerning” since there has been little input from the community about its effects.

“We have to build up but we have to build with measure. This is happening too quickly,” he said.

Messina, who runs the non-profit coalition New Yorkers for a Human-Scale City, said Downtown Brooklyn is suffering the same fate as “Billionaires Row,” just south of Central Park, which has six buildings taller than 1,000 feet completed or in the works. The buildings include One57 and 432 Park Avenue, which are 1,004 and 1,396 feet tall respectively.

Esther Rivera, 61, of Clinton Hill, said the change in scenery is getting out of hand.

“Probably, it’s going to be a beautiful building, but I don’t think that we need any more,” she said.

Robert Perris, the district manager for Brooklyn Community Board 2, which represents the area, embraced the new identity the skyscraper could bring to the neighborhood.

“I’ve lived in Brooklyn long enough to remember when Downtown Brooklyn looked like a rust belt city. There are people who are proud that Downtown Brooklyn has grown as the city’s third central business district,” he said.

David Maundrell, who handles new development in Brooklyn and Queens for the real estate group Citi Habitats, said the new tower will enhance that skyline.

“They are building a very sharp building. Brooklyn appreciates art and appreciates interesting architecture, and I think it will fold in that mix,” he said.


Brian Evans, 36, of Clinton Hill, however, pointed out the price of the architectural status symbol: higher-priced real estate. Although there are reports that 9 Dekalb Avenue will have affordable units, Evans expressed doubt that the average Brooklynite had the cash to live in the tower.

“They’re going to have to migrate somewhere else,” he said of residents and small busineses. “It’s just like New York is becoming more of a tourist attraction.”

Simeon Bankoff, the executive director of the Historic Districts Council, said it’s impossible to block the tower or other “supertalls” in Brooklyn due to the zoning rules, but the city needs to have serious discussions with the community about how to integrate the towers.

“How those units are being built and where they are being built is important. Five hundred units going up in an area versus 500 units spread out through a block is a big difference,” he said.

Some of those comments are very DUMB, but I'm sick of hearing the "affordability" argument. As if the building were 10 stories, they are going to be guaranteed to move in.

It's a good thing this tower is being built as-of-right (with some landmarks approvals required for the bank building), but this tower is not without its allies...


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/ny...ires.html?_r=0

Quote:

The borough president, Eric L. Adams, said that with Brooklyn’s newfound international stature, a thousand-foot tower (of which there are now only six citywide) is inevitable. “We’re not anybody’s little brother anymore,” Mr. Adams said. “Don’t mess with the new address: Brooklyn.”

CityGuy87 Feb 19, 2016 1:58 AM

I love Junior's and I'm glad it's going nowhere for the foreseeable future but hopefully they sell their air rights.

urbanlife Feb 19, 2016 7:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7341042)
It was just a matter of time before we start to read this garbage...


http://www.amny.com/real-estate/supe...nts-1.11487363

Supertall Brooklyn building proposal finds fury among area’s residents

By Ivan Pereira and Ann W. Schmidt
February 18, 2016





Some of those comments are very DUMB, but I'm sick of hearing the "affordability" argument. As if the building were 10 stories, they are going to be guaranteed to move in.

It's a good thing this tower is being built as-of-right (with some landmarks approvals required for the bank building), but this tower is not without its allies...


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/ny...ires.html?_r=0

One quote from your link that I have to agree with.

“This is becoming more and more like skyscraper Manhattan-type of living,” said Kenneth Peterkin, 52, of Bed-Stuy. “Instead of office buildings, they’re building these high rise apartments and how many of us can really, honestly, get into them?”


I understand this issue, basically we are seeing downtown Brooklyn become a high end high rise apartment district for Manhattan rather than seeing downtown Brooklyn become a jobs center for Brooklyn.

There is nothing wrong with building apartments, but with each passing year, NYC becomes more and more a playground for the super rich at the expense of everyone else. And Brooklyn is quickly losing its identity as it basically becomes an extension of Manhattan, and with it comes the same price tags that can be found in Manhattan.

Foosh Feb 19, 2016 9:09 AM

This building looks as though it jumped out of Fritz Langs Metropolis; simply stunning!


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