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bryson662001 Feb 20, 2007 5:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lincolndrive (Post 2640442)
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed but now that things are starting to take some sort of shape, does anyone know what the perimeters of the building are going to be?

Does the elevator shaft mark the center of the building? How close will RATR come to the building directly to it's east?

Thanks for any help.

This url may be of some help

www.philadelphiaresidences.com

As you will see, there is a wide gap between the two buildings (which is supposed to be the pool location). The floor plan doesn't show the exact location of the elevators except they are somewhere within the elevator lobbys which appear on the floorplan as the un-lettered space in the rear center of the building.

bryson662001 Feb 21, 2007 1:10 AM

Images of new RATR model
The building won't actually look like this of course......at night much of it will be dark most of the time (based on my night-time view of The Rittenhouse) and in daylight all this will be covered in reflective glass but this gives you an idea of what is behind the glass.
View from 15th & Chestnut toward the rear of building
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/IMG_0589.jpg
View from 15th & Market towards front of building
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/IMG_0585.jpg
Closeup of front entrance
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/IMG_0583.jpg
Looking toward the east from 15th st
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/IMG_0581.jpg
Rear view from Chestnut
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/IMG_0580.jpg

williamphilapa Feb 21, 2007 1:26 AM

The website mentions the pool and spa but I can't imagine the outdoor pool is the one they are referring to...is it?

I really dig the RATR design, I just wish it stayed at the original 57fls. instead of 48fls.. it really would have made a decent skyline impact coming southbound on I95. It still will have a little impact but very minimal.

awesome model photos bryson!

phillyskyline Feb 21, 2007 3:39 AM

So question, when looking at this building from the South, in the center of the building will it have concrete btwn the 2 center windows? I hope not... I would echo William's sentiments about the height. At least it does keep City Hall a prominent & centered location.

Cro Burnham Feb 21, 2007 3:51 AM

I count 45 floors in that model (including utility penthouse), not 48???::hmmm:

sjones Feb 21, 2007 3:47 PM

Am I the only one surprised that no permanent crane has been erected yet? They put up a crane at Murano very early into construction and they have been using movable cranes at this site for almost a year now. The metal support beams I saw last time I looked at the site are shown supporting the 2nd mobile crane on the east side of the site so I guess I was wrong in assuming the permanent crane would go there.

I would think things will pick up now that we have temps in the 40s. The article in the RE section said we will se 30 stories by the end of 2007.

WonderlandPark Feb 21, 2007 4:40 PM

I only count 43, but the mechanical penthouse could be taller than 1 floor.

CondoGuru Feb 21, 2007 4:43 PM

Am I the only one who finds this "updated" design boring? I thought the building was going to be all glass and now you have solid concrete walls on the exterior? What was the reason behind the reconfiguration? Anybody have insight into this?

Phillydude Feb 22, 2007 2:43 AM

As far as I can tell, the "concrete wall" (if that is, in fact, what it is) is only on the Southern side of the building. As I recall, there was a solid wall with little or no glass on the Meridian tower. There is a solid wall on the Southern side of the PSFS Building. Anyone know why that may be? Also, could that lighter glass be from some "lighting effect" in/around the model? If that's new (as opposed to blue) glass, I LOVE it! I'd rather have light glass than blue.

By far my favorite residential project.

EDIT: Even if it is a concrete wall, its modest -- at least there's SOME glass on the Southern exposure.

brenster Feb 22, 2007 2:51 AM

i don't see anything wrong with the design either, their is nothing wrong with some concrete along with the glass. I think it will help it blend in a little more with the buildings around it, while still having an modern/refined look.

clubbster Feb 22, 2007 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Phillydude (Post 2645012)
There is a solid wall on the Southern side of the PSFS Building. Anyone know why that may be?

All the elevator shafts (and there a lot of elevators) and ductwork in the PSFS building are concentrated in the service core behind the southern facade, hence no windows. Being the good modernists they were, Howe and Lescaze wanted to express the function of each key element of the building in its external form, and thus the service core facade is blank glazed black brickwork.

However, the brickwork for parts of some of the lower floors has been redone at some point, which slightly spoils the intended effect.

bryson662001 Feb 22, 2007 6:40 AM

This was the first model.....I think the model changed but not the building. I am guessing there won't be any exposed concrete.....that it will be covered with spandrel glass. Of course that is just a guess. A residential building this size should have between 3 and 5 elevators which is less then an office building like PSFS. Office builings always have alot.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...RATR-south.jpg

PhillyRising Feb 22, 2007 5:14 PM

They should go to glass elevators so you can get the view as you go up.....that way no concrete will be needed to mar the outside skin of the building. The people buying units in this building can afford the extra cost!

bryson662001 Feb 22, 2007 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyNation (Post 2645996)
They should go to glass elevators so you can get the view as you go up.....that way no concrete will be needed to mar the outside skin of the building. The people buying units in this building can afford the extra cost!

Glass elevators are soooooo '70s

CondoGuru Feb 22, 2007 10:01 PM

I think I get it now. The layout requires an exterior wall elevator core and the south side of the building was probably the best choice for its placement since they do anticipate another highrise eventually going up, obstructing them to the south. Why put a solid concrete wall on the front side looking down onto City Hall. It's making sense to me now.

AJM Feb 26, 2007 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroSplash (Post 2613185)
On Saturday, they started installing new steel beams just below street level. These appear to be very large I-beams (I think that's what they're called), several times wider then usual. These beams form a rectangle just below where the main driveway for the building will be (or where it appears it will be based on renderings I've seen). I would guess that this has to do with rebuilding the ramps to the underground parking area. We shall see.

Actually, the I beams are built up steel plate girders. Of the four installed on 2/3/07 the heaviest was 49,000 lbs. These four girders will form the base on which a 150 Ton capacity truck crane will be assembled to erect the additional structural steel girders and beams.

AJM Feb 26, 2007 1:54 AM

Local 401 Ironworkers installing 140' boom onto Link Belt 150 Ton crane.

brenster Feb 26, 2007 2:00 AM

when will they install the crane, and thanks for the insight as well

AJM Feb 26, 2007 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Swinefeld (Post 2639327)
I dropped by there yesterday too. Things are starting to look up.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../RezFeb001.jpg

Local 401 Ironworkers installing 140' boom onto Link Belt HC-238H 150 Ton capacity truck crane.

theWatusi Feb 26, 2007 2:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Swinefeld (Post 2640369)
With kind permission, here is a great shot taken by Metro that really shows the elevator shaft taking shape.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...h/IMG_1629.jpg

AJM is this the crane you are talking about? So I am taking it, the truck crane will be around for a while. When is a tower crane comming?


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