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BTinSF Mar 19, 2010 8:08 PM

SAN FRANCISCO | 706 Mission St. (Mexican Museum + Condo tower) | 510 FT | 43 Floors
 
In as much as this could well be the next significant highrise to begin construction in San Francisco, I figured it needed a thread even though the design is not yet complete (hence, no rendering seems available)

Quote:

The developer and San Francisco Redevelopment Agency staffers are preparing an environmental impact report and negotiating a revised development agreement that will likely head to the redevelopment board in April. Senior Project Manager Amy Neches said she hopes to have entitlements wrapped up early next year with construction starting in late 2011 or early 2012 . . . .

The project calls for Millennium Partners…to build a condo tower on a site made up of a 9,000-square-foot parcel the Redevelopment Agency owns and a 16,000-square-foot parcel the developers bought in 2006. The tower would house a 35,000- to 40,000-square-foot Mexican Museum, which the developers will build at no cost to the museum. Both the museum and condo tower would be connected to the historic Mercantile Building at 706 Mission St., a 1903 structure that the developers would restore. The height of the residential tower, which is being designed by Mexican architect Enrique Norton’s TEN Arquitectos and San Francisco-based Glenn Rescalvo of Handel Architects, would likely be between 450 and 550 feet.
Source: http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/...22/story1.html

The site:

http://www.socketsite.com/706%20Miss...ite%202010.jpg
Source: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...k_in_play.html

* Extra credit to first forumer who comes up with a rendering *

rocketman_95046 Mar 19, 2010 8:24 PM

I really want to see a rendering because 550ft on that small parcel should be interesting. :yes:

BTinSF Mar 19, 2010 8:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman_95046 (Post 4754767)
I really want to see a rendering because 550ft on that small parcel should be interesting. :yes:

Especially since Heller-Manus won't be involved. ;)

FerrariEnzo Mar 19, 2010 10:20 PM

Is that a helipad on the three story roof on the building to the left (kind of catty corner) to the parcel in question. Probably not but a weird design on the roof. If it is they can kiss it good bye with this building being built, too many up drafts.

BTinSF Mar 19, 2010 10:57 PM

:previous: That building is the Westin Hotel. No helipad--just a design on the deck I think.

hi123 Mar 20, 2010 3:18 AM

It's so great that they'll be getting rid of that awful yellow brick and restoring the historic building; it has such great potential! The mexican museum will really liven up jessie square as well! :D

peanut gallery Mar 20, 2010 7:30 PM

^Especially the brick at street level along Mission and 3rd. I can't wait to see how it used to look. Hopefully the ground floor will be as interesting and beautiful as the cornice on this building.

hi123 Mar 21, 2010 2:29 AM

No doubt it will be! I love how tall this tower is going to be too. It'll cover up the back of the hideous westin market street hotel.

BTinSF Mar 21, 2010 6:51 PM

Another view of the site:

http://sf.curbed.com/uploads/2010_03_mexicanmuseum.jpg
Source: http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2010/0...seumcondos.php

AndrewK Mar 22, 2010 1:09 AM

its hard to tell from the description, but will this building just adjoin the mercantile building, or will it be built on top of as well as next to it?

BTinSF Mar 22, 2010 3:12 AM

:previous: Since the building is still being designed, nobody but those involved in its development knows for sure, but the assumption is that it will be like the St. Regis across the street. There the existing building was gutted and the the interior of the new tower was integrated with a new interior for the older structure, but no significant changes were made to the exterior of the historic building (except I believe the old cornice, thought to present a seismic risk, was replaced with something that looks identical but is less likely to fall off).

peanut gallery Feb 1, 2011 10:39 PM

Almost a year later and now we have renderings! From SocketSite:

Quote:

http://www.socketsite.com/706%20Miss...Elevations.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/706%20Miss...ntegration.jpg

http://www.socketsite.com/706%20Miss...0Rendering.jpg

While simply conceptual elevations at this point, we’re digging the direction the tower design is headed. And with respect to the proposed rehabilitation of the existing Aronson building, we're big fans of the proposed redesign for the building's north façade.
I agree with them on the tower. It has a massing reminiscent of the Embarcadero Center, whose massing I've always really liked, but more slender and with a hopefully more interesting skin. I'm also happy with the changes to the Aronson Building at street level. I'm not as enamored with the new design for the north side of Aronson. I would have liked to seen them go more traditional to match the rest of the building. But I'm guessing they wanted to use this as a transition from the historic building to the modern tower.

peanut gallery Feb 1, 2011 10:40 PM

It sucks BT was banned. I know he'd be excited about this and I'd love to get his feedback on it.

San Frangelino Feb 1, 2011 11:18 PM

Love the height. If built, this would be the tallest tower around Yerba Buena Gardens. I wonder if there will be any issues with shadows over Jessie Square. Looking forward to seeing more details in the future.

Here is the architects website for anyone who is interested http://www.ten-arquitectos.com/

peanut gallery Feb 2, 2011 12:39 AM

^You know someone somewhere will have issues with shadows on something! But realistically, it would only partially shade the square in the early morning when it's usually overcast and few people are using the square anyway.

fflint Feb 2, 2011 1:07 AM

Love the height and narrowness, and I think the north side of the Aronson building would look good like that. Of course, what we end up with after the sausage-making process...well, that's another story.

Busy Bee Feb 2, 2011 1:49 AM

I don't usually follow SF stuff, but have communicated w/ BT in the transport forum. Why was he banned? When?

Gordo Feb 2, 2011 2:37 AM

^He created a sock-puppet account for some reason.

I like the proposal, and I actually really like what they're planning to do with the north side of the existing building. It's a boring blank wall now, and with what has been done on that side with other developments, there's not going to be another building built there for decades (if ever), so I like the creativity.

CyberEric Feb 2, 2011 6:04 AM

Looks really good! I like everything about it. Thanks for the post!

SFView Feb 2, 2011 6:05 AM

BT has a lot more time on his hands to do other things now that he was banned. I miss his commentary as well, and was always amazed how prolific he was. He joined this forum about the same time I did, but I can barely claim 1/34 as many posts.

Yes, the basic renderings do remind me of the Embarcadero Center also. I am looking forward to seeing more detail regarding what might be a two-tone glass treatment. So far the design looks rather promising for this location.


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