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NYRebel Jun 30, 2014 10:51 PM

NEW YORK | 9 DeKalb (340 Flatbush) | 1,066 FT | 73 FLOORS
 
Brooklyn's New Tower, by SHoP, will sprout 775 Feet

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2014/0...t_775_feet.php

http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/340-Fla...sion-thumb.jpg

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Eagle-eyed Nikolai Fedak of New York YIMBY has done it again: spotted crucial permits filed with the Department of Buildings. This time, it's for 340 Flatbush Avenue Extension, between Fleet Street and DeKalb Avenue in Downtown Brooklyn, where the borough's new tallest tower will rise. According to the permits, JDS Development has tapped the go-to megaproject designers—SHoP Architects—to build a 70-story, 775-foot-tall tower skyscraper that will house 495 apartments. JDS and the Chetrit Group bought the assemblage earlier this month for $43 million; there will be 109,000 square feet of commercial space in the proposed 556,000-square-foot building.

About that height: it's significantly bigger than Brooklyn's current tallest tower 388 Bridge Street (590 feet), and what was set to be the tallest, the under-construction Avalon Willoughby West, at 596 feet. Prepare to be second fiddle, AWW. Everyone else: brace.
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01



ADDING 1,066 FT RENDER


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chris08876 Jun 30, 2014 11:02 PM

Brooklyn is on fire! :hyper:

I expect something nice as usual from SHoP Architects. Great news.

NYRebel Jun 30, 2014 11:11 PM

The fact that this is on the same block as the Juniors site (which could potentially soar to 1,000ft+) is what has me so excited!

Also this is right across the street from City-Point, phrase 3 will also be huge from the looks of things.

SHoP will deliver I'm sure of it. They love Brooklyn lol.

QUEENSNYMAN Jun 30, 2014 11:18 PM

Great news for Brooklyn, so "Whos is Bum now"!

NYguy Jun 30, 2014 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRebel (Post 6637439)
The fact that this is on the same block as the Juniors site (which could potentially soar to 1,000ft+) is what has me so excited!


This site alone would account for nearly 800 ft, so if JDS in fact does get the Junior's site, the tower will grow to 1,000 plus, as was speculated. In that case, I'll just merge the threads.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/10/ny...ires.html?_r=0

At Junior’s Site, Bidders See Brooklyn, Too, as a City of Spires


http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/...-master675.jpg


JUNE 9, 2014

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.....The plans remain tentative. Bidding on the Junior’s property kicks off this week and should conclude by month’s end, but a number of prominent developers are already salivating over the possibilities. If the right firm can buy up the land and air rights for the entire triangular block, it would be quite possible to reach a height as yet unheard-of in Brooklyn.

.....The team most likely to lead this charge — Michael Stern and Joseph Chetrit — knows a thing or two about tall towers. Mr. Stern, a 35-year-old developer, has already made his name with plans to turn the Steinway Hall site on West 57th Street in Manhattan into 1,350-foot tower. Mr. Chetrit, most famous around these parts for residential conversions of the Chelsea Hotel and the Sony Building, owns what is now America’s second tallest building, the Willis Tower in Chicago.

In December, they went to contract on 340 Flatbush Avenue Extension, a squat six-story office building next door to Junior’s. If they can win the bidding for Junior’s, and get Chase to sell them the air rights it owns above the Dime Savings, a landmark, there would be at least half a million square feet at their disposal, enough to carve a knife blade of a tower onto the skyline.


This could be plans for the full assembled development, but we'll have to see.
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01



Here's the floor breakdown...
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JB...allbin=3396179

1-3 retail
4 residential amenity space
5-6 apartments (9 per floor)
7-32 aparments (11 per floor)
33 mechanical
34-50 apartments (7 per floor)
51 mechanical
52-69 apartments (4 per floor)
70 mechanical

Perklol Jul 1, 2014 12:23 AM

The sale for the junior site is almost over! Who will win?

That also looks like a difficult site assemblage.

NYguy Jul 1, 2014 12:31 AM

I'm suspecting that JDS already has either the Junior's site or the air rights from the landmark next door.


Going back a bit..


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1815243

JDS Development and Chetrit Group snap up Downtown Brooklyn site for new tower
Site is on one of Brooklyn's busiest corners



http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...cle-1.1815243#

June 3, 2014


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A new residential tower may be coming to one of Brooklyn's busiest corners.

A big Manhattan real estate player has snapped up an old office building across the block from Downtown's giant City Point development and has plans to raze it to make way for a new condo or rental building, sources told the Daily News.

The developer, JDS Development, bought the site at 340 Flatbush Ave. Ext., for $43.5 million, in partnership with former Chelsea Hotel owner the Chetrit Group.

The 174,000 square feet the developers can build as of right at the site could be configured in various ways, including as a stumpy 12-story building or as a slender tower with setbacks.

JDS CEO Michael Stern declined to comment on the transaction.

JDS and Chetrit will be building into what's becoming a fully-fledged rental development boom in Downtown Brooklyn, with giant rental towers like the 53-story 388 Bridge Street and the 57-story 188 Willoughby Street hitting the market.

NYRebel Jul 1, 2014 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6637479)
This site alone would account for nearly 800 ft, so if JDS in fact does get the Junior's site, the tower will grow to 1,000 plus, as was speculated. In that case, I'll just merge the threads.

I'm a bit confused.

So what you're saying is if JDS gets the Junior site they'll probably combine both sites to create one super tall? Seeing as though this site is already going up to 800FT?

Onn Jul 1, 2014 2:12 AM

Brooklyn getting in on the action! (Which is not totally surprising.) I think instead of the title being just "New York", it should be just "Brooklyn" or "Brooklyn, New York".

NYRebel Jul 1, 2014 3:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Onn (Post 6637611)
Brooklyn getting in on the action! (Which is not totally surprising.) I think instead of the title being just "New York", it should be just "Brooklyn" or "Brooklyn, New York".

There was a discussion before about this but in short it's not going to happen. It's unnecessary.

Brooklyn does = New York. If we're separating the boroughs then most threads would have to be converted into Manhattan, New York (which is equally as silly). New York City is one city no matter where in the 5 boroughs.

NYguy Jul 1, 2014 6:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NYRebel (Post 6637595)
I'm a bit confused.

So what you're saying is if JDS gets the Junior site they'll probably combine both sites to create one super tall? Seeing as though this site is already going up to 800FT?

I'm saying I'm not sure that isn't already the case.

Quote:

The developer, JDS Development, bought the site at 340 Flatbush Ave. Ext., for $43.5 million, in partnership with former Chelsea Hotel owner the Chetrit Group.

The 174,000 square feet the developers can build as of right at the site could be configured in various ways



Quote:

The team most likely to lead this charge — Michael Stern and Joseph Chetrit — knows a thing or two about tall towers.

...In December, they went to contract on 340 Flatbush Avenue Extension, a squat six-story office building next door to Junior’s. If they can win the bidding for Junior’s, and get Chase to sell them the air rights it owns above the Dime Savings, a landmark, there would be at least half a million square feet at their disposal, enough to carve a knife blade of a tower onto the skyline.



You can see from filings with the City that the tower is for roughly that half million square feet...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/156380177/original.jpg

NYguy Jul 7, 2014 3:10 PM

This tower will rise in the photo just in front of the Citypoint complex which is pictured under construction...


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https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5540/...5d1aa5e1_k.jpg

hunser Jul 7, 2014 3:39 PM

Wooot? I totally missed this project. Great news for Brooklyn! :cheers: And let's not forget the potential supertall at Junior's site ...

QUEENSNYMAN Jul 7, 2014 3:43 PM

Great news for Brooklyn, USA! Just asking do ya think Brooklyn will get even taller towers like this NYguy?

NYguy Jul 7, 2014 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hunser (Post 6644251)
Wooot? I totally missed this project. Great news for Brooklyn! :cheers: And let's not forget the potential supertall at Junior's site ...

Possibly merged...



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Originally Posted by QUEENSNYMAN (Post 6644256)
Great news for Brooklyn, USA! Just asking do ya think Brooklyn will get even taller towers like this NYguy?

Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

Tectonic Jul 7, 2014 6:10 PM

Hope SHoP does not hit us with more earth tones here.

NYguy Jul 8, 2014 10:43 AM

I've been wondering if the Junior's site was included in the filing, but I've seen no evidence that the lots have been merged. I still wonder how they've been able to get the zoning up to 556,000 sf ft. The Junior's site has 103,000 sf to build. I don't know about the air rights for the landmark at 9 DeKalb, but reportedly is has "several hundred thousand sf" of air rights to sell. The footprint of the Junior's site would seem too small to utilize those development rights, so maybe the sites will be merged, the filing to let any potential bidders on the Junior's site know what the deal is.



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steyin Jul 9, 2014 8:11 PM

As a native Brooklynite and architect at a residential/high rise firm, I'm not sure how I feel about more towers in Brooklyn itself. High priced condos is not what we need, but that's an argument for another day.

Also, knew about Junior's closing/being sold months before it was made public >_>

NYguy Jul 9, 2014 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steyin (Post 6647864)
As a native Brooklynite and architect at a residential/high rise firm, I'm not sure how I feel about more towers in Brooklyn itself. High priced condos is not what we need, but that's an argument for another day.


Well, regardless of how you feel about it, Brooklyn is getting more towers, that much is certain.

As far as the need for high priced condos, when there is no need, no more will be built. Demand will dictate that.

chris08876 Jul 9, 2014 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steyin (Post 6647864)
As a native Brooklynite and architect at a residential/high rise firm, I'm not sure how I feel about more towers in Brooklyn itself. High priced condos is not what we need, but that's an argument for another day.

Also, knew about Junior's closing/being sold months before it was made public >_>

Theres a good interview with Mr.Stern, the developer that hints at many more towers coming for Brooklyn. He mentions this because in Manhattan, it can cost more to purchase a land plot then to build a tower. Brooklyn is the next frontier in development. Expect hundreds of more high rises in Queens and Brooklyn over the next couple of years.

Interview (Supertall view): http://media.crainsnewyork.com/video...per-tall-tower

He's also building Brooklyns new tallest for now.

Interview (On construction in the city): The View on Real Estate: Michael Stern on the development biz

http://media.crainsnewyork.com/show/...evelopment-biz


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