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[Surrey] Georgetown | 6, 15, 30, 31, 32, 39, 41, 45 fl | U/C & Proposed

Project: Georgetown (Phase 1)
Developer: Anthem Properties
Architect: Chris Dikeakos Architects Inc
Height: 30fl | 97M (318 ft)
Units: 351
Use: Mixed
Address: 13645 102nd Avenue
Current State: Phase 1 U/C as of (May 11, 2020)

Master Plan

- Phase 1: one 30-storey, ground floor commercial and town houses
- Phase 2: one 32-storey and one 31-storey residential high-rise with ground floor commercial;
- Phase 3: a 6-storey residential building with ground floor commercial space centred on a large public plaza;
- Phase 4: a 41-storey residential high-rise;
- Phase 5: a 39-storey residential high-rise with office space;
- Phase 6: a 45- storey residential high-rise with office space; and
- Phase 7: a 15-storey mid-rise residential building with ground floor commercial space.

Site Area: 4.1 Hectares
Office: 4,000 Sq.M.

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Surrey City Centre is a 10 acre, 1.8 million sq ft, Master Planned Urban Mixed Use Community located in the heart of downtown Surrey. Surrey City Centre is the new bustling commercial core in Metro Vancouver. Flanked by major transportation infrastructure such as the SkyTrain and King George Boulevard, the site is well positioned near regional amenities such as an SFU University Campus, North Surrey Recreation Centre, Surrey City Hall, Surrey’s newest and largest Public Library and the Central City Shopping Centre. Upon completion, a total of 8 new residential apartment buildings will rise above 180,000 sq ft of newly created restaurants, offices and retail space.

CIVITAS created the urban design Concept Plan for this Transit-Oriented Design (TOD) project, a 5-minute walk from a major Skytrain station. It contains a ne grain of integrated streets, a legible grid structure, small blocks that maximize street front access and provide active frontages. The intersection density allows for multiple pedestrian paths, and the Green Lane allows access for high density residential along King George Blvd. Key features of the plan include:

• Height/density transect from King George to Whalley Blvd

• Diversity of built form; towers, mid rise, townhouses

• Taller towers & 6 storey street-wall, reinforcing King George Blvd character

• Streetwall reinforcing site

• Towers placed to maximize solar access to public spaces

• A 400m long outdoor High Street provides a strong retail flow anchored at both ends

Hopefully this breaks ground this summer. It's going to be busy south of 104th for the next few years.

I just realized that there's a pretty decent elevation change from the south end of Georgetown near 102 Ave and the north side, at the current Canadian Tire.

Will they have to readjust the elevation for the towers on that CT site, or will they keep Whalley Blvd. as an elevated road?

Anybody have the project number for this development? Never mind found it.

That render is so dumb. What is with all the trees even on top of the building. Seriously, I can see a manager yelling at the graphic artist "MORE TREES PEOPLE WANT MORE TREES!!!!!"

Ugh. This is in the HEART of Surrey, render should be urban and look urban, not like it is in the middle of Green Timbers Park. Even the shadows are all wrong. Terrible.

*sigh* marketers.

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Originally Posted by jhausner (Post 8031050)

That render is so dumb. What is with all the trees even on top of the building. Seriously, I can see a manager yelling at the graphic artist "MORE TREES PEOPLE WANT MORE TREES!!!!!"

*sigh* marketers.

"MORE TREES PEOPLE WANT MORE TREES!!!!!" = "MORE COWBELL PEOPLE WANT MORE COWBELL BABY!!!!! -The Bruce Dickinson.

skytrain isn't that close to the site

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8031512)

skytrain isn't that close to the site

Approx 5 minute walk to surrey central station and about 8-10 min to KGB station

i know that but this render cannot be for this project as it shows skytrain practically running through this development. Its not possibly this open and visible at all. there is a solid block of crap between king george and where the skytrain is.

https://anthemproperties.com/app/upl...urrey-city.jpg

I'm guessing they will have to tear down the Canadian Tire and Save On Foods to build this project?

I believe this part of the project is closer to where A&W is. A future phase will be wear the saveon / canadian tire currently sit

The guess is that it'll be phased so that the Save-on-Foods can more into the large 2nd floor retail space.

I wonder if Save on Foods will move to King George Hub when completed?

Planning report is released

I guess the anticipated start date didn't happen.

I didn't know that there is going to be an Uniqlo here as well. :P

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Originally Posted by Klazu (Post 8147078)

I didn't know that there is going to be an Uniqlo here as well. :P

No. it's a nilo, not uniqlo

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Originally Posted by osirisboy (Post 8147096)

No. it's a nilo, not uniqlo

Obviously. No connections made here. :rolleyes:

https://www.seeklogo.net/wp-content/...go-preview.png

Lol oh I thought that one was made up for sure

yea i thought it was pretending to be stone island, a pretty expensive brand that they carry at holt renfrew, but it seems river island is also a real brand

https://www.flannels.com/images/mark...anner-2018.jpg

[QUOTE=SpongeG;8147507]yea i thought it was pretending to be stone island, a pretty expensive brand that they carry at holt renfrew, but it seems river island is also a real brand

Stone Island is a favoured clothing brand for various yobs, chavs and wannabe football hooligans in Britain. I'm surprised Holt's carries it.

Now I'd be delighted if Waitrose expands to Canada.

[QUOTE=TrickyTree;8148335]

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8147507)

yea i thought it was pretending to be stone island, a pretty expensive brand that they carry at holt renfrew, but it seems river island is also a real brand

Stone Island is a favoured clothing brand for various yobs, chavs and wannabe football hooligans in Britain. I'm surprised Holt's carries it.

Now I'd be delighted if Waitrose expands to Canada.

Burberry is also a chav favourite in Britain, but in Canada it’s considered completely chi-chi and a mainstay of stores like Holt Renfrew.

Phase 1 (30-Storey tower) is heading to Council tonight for 1st / 2nd reading. Master Plan is also seeking council endorsement.

https://urbansurrey.com/2018/04/07/p...ds-to-council/

The outdoor amenity on the podium roof is sounding very nice.

Also as for the retail - Uniqlo and other clothing stores maybe not so far fetched. In the CIVITAS master plan for the site - they envision 102A as a new retail 'high street' connecting through to Central City Plaza.

http://nebula.wsimg.com/f7ddd7969c8d...&alloworigin=1
http://www.civitasdesign.com/georgetown.html

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress....04/8obletg.jpg

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress....04/ilvxqzi.jpg

That would gen great to have 102a a high street connecting to the mall. So given that it would've been nicer to have a stronger streetwall along 102a

6-storey would have been nicer for a street wall - but I think it will turn out better than the renders suggest. A floor of retail with 2 storey townhouse above isn't bad. The rest of the street will have some height variation.

Also those white sidewalks shown are actually bike lanes - incorrectly rendered. Will be asphalt. Actual sidewalks are wider and up against the building.

https://urbansurrey.files.wordpress....04/dlfzo6j.jpg

I like this building a lot and I think the townhouses look awesome.

Yeah it's not bad. It is odd having a lawn on either side of the bike lane though. Also I'm hoping there will be on street parking along 102a

A retail high street won't work with a big plaza on the north side in Phase 3.
That'll interrupt the flow of pedestrians.

... just realized that this is the block we thought would have a second floor retail space for Save-on-Foods.
(i.e. reason for the at-grade parking and escalators)
... disappointing - but maybe that signals that Save-on-Foods is moving elsewhere (i.e. King George Station?)

Current Plan:
Escalators and elevator are gone from the NE corner.

https://i.imgur.com/XpB6LvL.jpg
http://www.surrey.ca/bylawsandcounci...16-0448-00.pdf

Old Plan:

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 7712679)

Early look at the Anthem Properties site and how they plan to break it up. No renders or any more details so far.

http://i.imgur.com/PjFFnSz.jpg?1

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Originally Posted by Reecemartin (Post 8149033)

Frankly I never hope for more parking in an area so well served by transit.

I find it makes for a nicer street. And not everyone uses transit. Especially in this area

Street parking makes for a good barrier between the sidewalk and moving traffic and I'd like to see it on most of the streets here (together with lower parking requirements for the buildings themselves). But If 102a is going to be more of a shopping "high street", I'd rather they take steps to minimize or even eliminate car traffic altogether and reserve as much of the street as possible for pedestrians.

As for the building: not a fan of the tiny podium at all. Anything less than 3-4 floors is honestly just a waste of space.

Seven-tower ‘Georgetown’ development ‘almost a community on its own,’ says Surrey councillor - Apr 24, 2018

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Big changes are afoot in Surrey’s City Centre as another developer has received the green light to build towers in the area that’s being transformed into the next downtown core for the Metro Vancouver region.

On Monday, Surrey council gave its blessing to the first phase of a development project that, if all approved, will include seven towers, townhouses and an outdoor plaza near 102nd Avenue and King George Boulevard.

As phase one of seven, Anthem Properties plans to build a 30-storey tower with 342 apartments and ground floor commercial, as well as nine two-storey townhouses for its proposed “Georgetown” development on the southern portion of a 10-acre property at 13665 102nd Ave.

Surrey council gave the first phase of the project third reading on Monday, after much public support was expressed at a public hearing.

While phases two through seven are intended to be developed as future projects, Anthem hoped Monday to “obtain a level of certainty from council that the proposed density and development concept for phases two through seven is acceptable.” It’s a similar approach taken on comparable “master plan” developments in the area such as West Village and Flamingo Block, which will see that area transformed into Surrey’s “Yaletown” according to developer Tien Sher.

It seems Anthem’s got it.

“I don’t see any reason that we won’t be talking about the finale of all of this… It had virtually no opposition,” Councillor Mike Starchuk told the Now-Leader Tuesday, describing the project as “almost a community on its own.”

“There’s going to be thousands more families living in the downtown core,” he added.

“There’s so much street animation, so much walkability, bikeability,” said Starchuk. “Their intent is to make it walkable with small boutique shops and they want to be able to accommodate the Save-On Foods and Canadian Tire (which are tenants on the property right now).”

Starchuk also praised the amenities in the project, from a theatre-style projection set-up with covered seating available if the weather is poor, to a plaza and playground, to space that could even be used for a farmer’s market.

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Anthem’s “master plan” involves ultimately subdividing the property into seven lots in order to create a mixed-use community, complete with a “significant public open space plaza” at the centre of the site.

Phase two includes one 32-storey and one 32-storey tower with ground floor commercial, and phase three includes a six-storey residential building with ground floor commercial centred on a large public plaza.

A 41-storey tower is proposed in phase four, a 39-storey tower with office space in phase five and a 45-storey high-rise with office space in phase six.

Finally, a 15-storey mid-rise residential building with ground floor commercial space as phase seven.

The project’s landscape architect, Jennifer Stamp, told council of many efforts made in public open spaces.

Stamp said it’s hoped the commercial at ground-level can have many restaurants.

“It’s thought there could be market days or sidewalk sales, we’re trying to provide a flexibility of use,” she added.

Stamp also spoke of a children’s place area, a plaza, water feature, a pavilion with shade trees and seating, as well as walkways and bikeways.

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Rob Blackwell, senior vice-president of Anthem Properties, told city council ahead of their approval that it’s hard to predict how long the entire project would take to complete.

“The first phase, if given approval, would take three years from breaking grounds to completion and each phase is of a similar period of time,” he explained. “If the market is robust we can go through faster and have a quicker overall pace but I would estimate overall that we would be looking at something like seven or eight years.”

A report to council notes Save-On Foods and Canadian Tire will continue to operate, on the northern side of the site, where future phases are proposed to be built, approximately 325 metres away from Surrey Central SkyTrain Station across King George Boulevard.

In phase one, the apartments are to range in size from 359 to 686 square feet, according to the application, in a variety of housing types including 85 studio units, 172 one-bedroom units and 85 two-bedroom units.

The A&W on the site has closed shop now and all of their signage is gone. One step closer to them breaking ground.

Another large development that will be a carbon copy of Everything else, painted concrete and spandrel everywhere. Yay

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Originally Posted by EhJay (Post 8213086)

The A&W on the site has closed shop now and all of their signage is gone. One step closer to them breaking ground.

Nice - this one may actually start this year then.

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Originally Posted by osirisboy (Post 8213272)

Another large development that will be a carbon copy of Everything else, painted concrete and spandrel everywhere. Yay

You should probably go get an architecture / urban design degree / start a firm / do something better then ;)

This project is actually quite well designed / thought out from a master plan perspective. Detailed design of the buildings within it (aside from this first tower) hasn't even been submitted. The first tower isn't carbon copy at all if you bother to look at the details. The outdoor park / amenity on the podium is above an beyond with an outdoor theatre for one thing. The tower shape is also nicely curved to reflect the curvature of Whalley Blvd.

I am very curious of the price of Georgetown, Phase 1 would go for.

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Originally Posted by EhJay (Post 8213086)

The A&W on the site has closed shop now and all of their signage is gone. One step closer to them breaking ground.

Those signage guys were also working on the Canadian tire after they finished A&W. Although, everything still looks the same at that CT.

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Originally Posted by EhJay (Post 8213086)

The A&W on the site has closed shop now and all of their signage is gone. One step closer to them breaking ground.

Oh really? That was my go to spot for mobile bandit app 2 for 1 teen burgers. Plus there was a really cute girl that worked there.

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Originally Posted by Shift (Post 8213499)

Sorry but I'm not seeing it. They are point towers on dinky podiums, painted concrete and spandrel. I'm not saying it's bad in of itself. Just looks like more of the same.

I hope the end game for Whalley isn't to have nothing by condo towers and no real restaurants/shops/entertainment.

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Originally Posted by OilerNut (Post 8223807)

I hope the end game for Whalley isn't to have nothing by condo towers and no real restaurants/shops/entertainment.

The ground level of this master plan is basically all retail stores and food.

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Originally Posted by skymaster (Post 8223926)

The ground level of this master plan is basically all retail stores and food.

I find more often than not the retail spaces are too small for many things to want to go in and you get left with dull retail and sterile storefronts

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Surrey City Centre acquisition for Anthem

Jun 25, 2018, 11:00 ET

The 4.4 acre site at 10232 Whalley Boulevard sits directly across the street from Georgetown,
Anthem's 10 acre master planned mixed use community that includes seven residential apartment towers
and 120,000 square feet of restaurants, offices and retail space.

Currently improved by a Toys R Us store and a Dollarama, Anthem plans to submit a rezoning proposal for
a future master planned residential community to the City, in line with Surrey's Official Community Plan
and area planning policies.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...686458341.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dgow6OfX4AEduip.png
https://twitter.com/TheAnthemWay

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Originally Posted by officedweller (Post 8233516)

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...686458341.html

I wonder if they will combine this under the Georgetown banner

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Originally Posted by Westbased (Post 8233650)

I wonder if they will combine this under the Georgetown banner

I hope not. I hope it looks rotally different and add variety to the area.

With Georgetown likely to take the next 10 years to build out - wonder how this site will fit into that. Concurrent project with one of the Georgetown phases? Or wait until Georgetown is done to start this site? Seems like a long time to wait - but if they have the capacity to bring both sites to market at once, then why the many phases of Georgetown.

Look at Concord in Vancouver on the waterfront and how many years they have sat holding land and not building in some places.

Yeah my guess is no action on this site til mid-late 2020's.

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