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But seeing "NY reporter goes to Trump country"; usually involving going 100s of miles away was so absurd when they could go 20 miles away. Staten Island is probably less unrepresentative of US politics. |
Staten Island is geographically close to Monmouth and Ocean County NJ, both of which voted for Trump.
In addition, on Long Island, Trump easily won highly populated Suffolk County, lost Nassau, but if you combine Suffolk with Nassau, Trump's margin of victory is 603,900 votes to HRC's 584,200 or 19,700 more votes. With that said, I don't believe the recent Presidential election results is an accurate barometer for measuring a region's level of conservatism. |
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of course he would win orange county. probably also took giant comb-over county
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But how about we stop talking about this asshole? |
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Saw someone do the numbers for NY State, and with NY City removed, Trump would have lost slightly. 2012 Obama won upstate NY by about 9 points or so. |
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https://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/...es-they-serve/ NYPD is 55% white http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ents.html?_r=0 |
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After all, most city workers have to live within the state during their employment (but not the city, and there are many exceptions to the state rule), and NYC comprises the majority of the population of the NYS portion of the NYC metro. But in Chicago (and many other cities) all workers have to live in city limits, no exceptions, which creates "cop neighborhoods", usually on the city fringes. NYC doesn't have an exact equivalent. In Chicago 100% of city workers are in the city; in NYC maybe's it's 60%+ (if cops are representative of city worker residency). There are certain fringe neighborhoods on Staten Island and far Northeast Queens that are maybe a slightly lesser version of "cop neighborhoods", but not quite to the same extent. If you want the burbs, you can go to the burbs. This, alongside lower immigration, and less gentrification, has also preserved a bit more of the "old school insular white ethnic neighborhood" typology in Chicago, IMO. Northeast Queens is rapidly becoming Asian. South Shore of Staten Island is still white ethnic but lightly populated. Most of formerly white ethnic Brooklyn is at least as diverse as Queens these days. Far Northeast Bronx was white ethnic; now looks like Queens. If a neighborhood is cheap and safe and within 50 miles of Times Square it will get immigrants. |
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In Los Angeles, that's definitely not the case. One does not have to live in a particular city to work for it. A lot of LAPD, for example, live in the suburbs, and even live outside of Los Angeles County. I've applied for jobs in various other cities in southern California and having to be a resident of those cities was never a requirement. |
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Probably also an attempt to keep middle-income households in the city, especially in the face of urban decline. In many cities, if you didn't have these laws, you would have fewer middle class neighborhoods. Quote:
Even heads of city agencies aren't required to live in NYC. I know a deputy commissioner at a city department who lives in Princeton, NJ. I still think most workers live in the city, though, just because of convenience. I imagine the same is true in LA. |
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Chicago is undoubtedly the most conservative city of the three in terms of culture, but is probably as liberal if not moreso than the other two when it comes to politics. By culturally conservative I mean people here have very down to earth Midwestern sensibilities in terms of lifestyle, values, style, thrift, you name it. But when it comes to their political views, they are probably almost more solidly liberal since most people who live here feel they are marooned on a dessert island of liberalism in a sea of conservatives, which is basically true. But that political leaning certainly does not translate to alignment with coastal cultural values. This could probably be said for most major Midwestern cities. Places like Madison, Milwaukee, Minneapolis probably give even the bluest coastal city a run for their money in terms of liberal political fervor, but are anomalies in a vast sea of conservatism. But even in these liberal bastions the conservatism still translates into a very different set of cultural norms.
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I would say Chitown
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In NYC the white voter base, with the exception of Manhattan and the gentrified third of Brooklyn, is Republican-leaning. This is why Guiliani and Bloomberg were able to win. All you need to do is peel off some rich socially liberal (but economically neoliberal) Manhattanites and you have a coalition which can theoretically outvote people of color and white leftists.
LA was probably historically the most conservative of the three cities. Certainly whites in Southern California as a whole are still around as conservative as whites in say Arizona. And the city had a Republican mayor as recently as 2001. But over time the massive white flight out of the city (and the region) has changed it from a Republican-leaning to a solidly Democratic area. Chicago has been a one-party city since the 1930s. Chicago was also unique, because while the corrupt "political machines" collapsed elsewhere in the country in the 1940s, they continued to rule Chicago up through the 1980s. Thus there's a lot more cultural momentum keeping working-class whites as part of the Democratic Party in Chicago than in the other two cities. |
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Giuliani's base was Outer Borough ethnic whites (not massively different from Trump's base, though Guiliani was radically different back then). Bloomberg's base was Manhattan and gentrified neighborhoods, and, originally, blacks. Also, hard to compare, because when Giuliani won (1994) NYC was totally different than when Trump won. Many of the neighborhoods that led to Giuliani no longer have the same demographic. Italian and Irish neighborhoods have given way to Hasidic and polyglot neighborhoods. Many are actually more conservative, in a way, but not really comparable. |
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