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malec Jul 30, 2006 3:49 PM

DUBAI | The Index | 1,076 FT / 328 M | 86 FLOORS | Recently Complete
 
A mixed-use, 86 storey tower designed by Foster and partners.
It's near the main road but not right next to it.


Old render.

http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data...ntral_Park.jpg



New renders

http://i3.tinypic.com/vo6hvt.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vhucrt.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/vhtcft.jpg

malec Jul 30, 2006 3:51 PM

Construction pic by AltinD


http://i7.tinypic.com/21e71o4.jpg

Fabb Jul 30, 2006 4:39 PM

Foster is prolific.
He did a good job, again.

Lecom Jul 30, 2006 4:51 PM

Wow, massive, especially at such height. The tower is bound to make one hell of an impact on the skyline, even on a major one like they have (or will have) in Dubai.

Foster could've got rid of the louvres on the sides though.

malec Jul 30, 2006 6:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecom
Wow, massive, especially at such height. The tower is bound to make one hell of an impact on the skyline, even on a major one like they have (or will have) in Dubai.

It depends which side you see it from. Most of the tall towers there are ultra-thin like rose rotana so from one side it'll look massive while from the other side it'll look like just another in the pack. It should look a bit bigger than the rest though since there are floors up to the top.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/3338/indexvs9.jpg

Fabb Jul 30, 2006 6:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malec
It should look a bit bigger than the rest though since there are floors up to the top.

A rarity in Dubai. And a good thing, too.

wrendog Jul 30, 2006 7:02 PM

holy cow.. that's a lot of cranes

Thefigman Jul 31, 2006 12:32 AM

I like this one.

kalmia Jul 31, 2006 3:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrendog
holy cow.. that's a lot of cranes



Dubai's Crane Crunch

24% Of World Supply May Be At Work In Mideast Boomtown, And It Needs More

By JIM KRANE
Associated Press

July 21 2006

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates -- New York has the Statue of Liberty. Paris has the Eiffel Tower. Dubai's symbol, for now, is the construction crane.

This Persian Gulf boomtown is more accurately described as an enormous construction site than as a finished city.

Cranes cram the skyline and line the highways, marring the view from almost any window. Their latticed booms wheel over hundreds of half-finished skyscrapers, hauling up gray slabs of prefabricated wall, buckets of wet concrete and bundles of steel reinforcing rod that resembles rust-colored spaghetti.

Building analysts say Dubai has emerged as the world's fastest-growing city, as well as its largest repository of building cranes.

"Dubai is the biggest market for tower cranes," said Klaus Binder, who heads tower crane production for the German manufacturer Liebherr. "No other city in the world has such a number. Maybe Shanghai did three or five years ago. There are growing markets in Russia, but they are not as big as Dubai's."

The frantic growth is the fruit of oil-rich investors plowing record profits into luxury real estate in this liberal and cosmopolitan city. Dubai now groans under $200 billion in projects that are either underway or slated to begin shortly, said Colin Foreman, a Gulf construction expert with the Middle East Economic Digest.

No one here seems to know how many building cranes have been aiding the city's sprawl across miles of sweltering desert dunes. But inevitably, when one of Dubai's newspapers or pundits seeks to describe the scale of the city's building boom, a crane statistic is mentioned.

In June, Dubai's Gulf News daily asserted that the city harbors 24 percent of the world's construction cranes - or 30,000 of 125,000 cranes worldwide. Less ambitious estimates range from 6 percent to 10 percent.

Binder believes that there are between 1,100 and 1,200 tower cranes in the Emirates, mainly in Dubai, which is roughly 5 to 10 percent of the world's active tower cranes - one of three varieties used in construction.

Dubai harbors many thousands more mobile cranes and crawler cranes - those on wheels or tracks.

Despite the crane-scarred skyline, Dubai needs more - far more - to complete its projects. Problem is, manufacturers can't make cranes fast enough and the second-hand market has been largely cleaned out, those in the industry say.

Rental companies in Dubai are booked solid. Gallagher International, which rents 53 mobile cranes to developers in Dubai, had leased its entire fleet last week.

"You have to say no to your customers. You cannot find cranes anywhere," said Arty Wartanian, Gallagher's general manager. "People are going to China to buy them because sources in Europe have dried up."

A recent article in Construction Week magazine said crane prices have jumped 30 percent this year and that the two major European manufacturers - Liebherr and Potain - were so backlogged that Italian and Chinese cranes were taking a growing share of the Gulf market.

A new Liebherr tower crane costs $100,000 to $1.9 million, depending on the size.

It's not just cranes that are in short supply. The simultaneous building booms in the Emirates capital Abu Dhabi, and in nearby Qatar and Bahrain have swept the market of bulldozers, excavators, pile drivers and other machinery. Prices of raw materials such as concrete, glass, steel and aluminum are soaring, as is demand for laborers and engineers.

All this is driving up building prices. "It's a classic supply-and-demand problem," Foreman said.

The 2006 Gulf Construction Yearbook estimates that $4 billion is spent each week on projects in the six Gulf Arab countries.

"I guess it's going to be like this for the next five years," Wartanian said.

kalmia Jul 31, 2006 3:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malec
Construction pic by AltinD


http://i7.tinypic.com/21e71o4.jpg


what are all those blocks for in that big stack?

malec Aug 20, 2006 6:43 PM

^^ I think it's some sort of weight test


By Imre 2 days ago:

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Lecom Aug 20, 2006 6:58 PM

Nice updates, but it really needs to get rid of those side louvres, or at least convert them into something useful like solar energy collectors.

If I had to buy a residence in Dubai, I'd definitely go for something else. I'd rather live in a slim ultratall sleek tower, of which Dubai has/will have more than plenty.

Fabb Aug 21, 2006 6:47 AM

I never noticed the art-déco towers right behind the site (photo 4). In the distance they look good... and kind of out of place.

colemonkee Aug 21, 2006 4:22 PM

Nice. It's starting to rise. One of the best things about this tower, and the entire DIFC project, is that it will add some depth to the SZR skyline.

kznyc2k Aug 21, 2006 4:30 PM

It reminds me of the AT&T Long Lines building in NYC, except this one is covered in louvres. Nice to see brutalism is back in style :rolleyes:

Lecom Aug 21, 2006 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kznyc2k
It reminds me of the AT&T Long Lines building in NYC, except this one is covered in louvres. Nice to see brutalism is back in style :rolleyes:

But now we call it "minimalism" ;)

kznyc2k Aug 22, 2006 12:10 AM

Great. Leave it to the theorists to present us with the same (bad) solutions, just under different jargon. Just like how there are lots of buildings going up that look like the Javits Federal Office Building with those alternating window/metal panels. Real hip and original, guys....

Lecom Aug 22, 2006 12:24 AM

3 Park Avenue, New York

https://extranet.emporis.com/files/t.../11/321605.jpg

mightygoose Aug 22, 2006 12:51 AM

with its name and its design it just so reminds me of halo so bad lol

Dalton Aug 22, 2006 1:59 AM

What is wrong with Dubai?

So much bad design with all that money to spend and cheap labor to exploit! They ought to be building the finest designs in the world - buildings so innovative and lavish (as opposed to gaudy) that they would be financially impossible in other countries. Instead, they go for sheer height and flash over substance. Most Dubai skyscrapers are cartoon architecture, a grotesque pastiche of elements from successful American and Asian designs. The city is fast becoming the equivalent of a pimps' Cadillac. The worst examples of their world-class bad architecture are hideous. But even the "good" buildings in Dubai are ever-so-slightly amiss somehow - whether it be massing, setbacks, facade colors and materials, etc. The only building that has a real chance of being something special - something Dubai can truly be proud of for something other than being the "World's Blankest Blank" - is the Burj Dubai (which ironically be the World's Tallest Skyscraper when complete).

So now "Index" is what passes for Minimalism and "distinctive elegance" in Dubai? To me it looks more like early 70s Modernism run amok, like a failed design for an overgrown EPCOT hotel that even Disney would have thought twice about slapping up.

It's bad. It's really bad.

Fabb Aug 22, 2006 6:12 AM

It's derived of that other building of Madrid Arena that Foster designed.

malec Aug 22, 2006 8:41 AM

Well, as usual with Dubai projects the renders are shit. This thing is designed by Foster and Partners so it should be good, but the only way to see is to wait

hoosier Aug 22, 2006 3:23 PM

Given that Dubai has many buildings with tapered tops and spires, the Index will provide balance to the skyline. I like this building a lot. It reminds me of the 1969 Chase Building in Chicago.

kznyc2k Aug 22, 2006 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecom
3 Park Avenue, New York

You hit the nail square on its head.

h2omaster Aug 25, 2006 3:43 AM

looks very elegant
i like this design

TowerPower Aug 25, 2006 4:55 AM

I like it.

It's good. It's really good.

malec Sep 10, 2006 11:51 AM

A picture from september 8th

http://xs306.xs.to/xs306/06365/1d.jpg


BTW you can really see how huge this thing is in these images. I stole these from civicarts, they seem to be doing the masterplanning and they had a few pics I never saw before. There are also a few towers in there nobody knew about until now such as the 2 towers in the middle. I wonder square feet the index has.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1175/1xn0.th.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1954/2cy6.th.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7947/3hd0.th.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6876/4dd8.th.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7927/5ri0.th.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5341/6de7.th.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4466/7db4.th.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5955/8da9.th.jpg


Massive Masterplan

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4...nbigae3.th.jpg

malec Sep 10, 2006 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalton
What is wrong with Dubai?

So much bad design with all that money to spend and cheap labor to exploit! They ought to be building the finest designs in the world - buildings so innovative and lavish (as opposed to gaudy) that they would be financially impossible in other countries. Instead, they go for sheer height and flash over substance. Most Dubai skyscrapers are cartoon architecture, a grotesque pastiche of elements from successful American and Asian designs. The city is fast becoming the equivalent of a pimps' Cadillac. The worst examples of their world-class bad architecture are hideous. But even the "good" buildings in Dubai are ever-so-slightly amiss somehow - whether it be massing, setbacks, facade colors and materials, etc. The only building that has a real chance of being something special - something Dubai can truly be proud of for something other than being the "World's Blankest Blank" - is the Burj Dubai (which ironically be the World's Tallest Skyscraper when complete).

So now "Index" is what passes for Minimalism and "distinctive elegance" in Dubai? To me it looks more like early 70s Modernism run amok, like a failed design for an overgrown EPCOT hotel that even Disney would have thought twice about slapping up.

It's bad. It's really bad.

Hmm, you overcritisize everything so I bet you must be an architect :D

DetroitSky Sep 10, 2006 1:44 PM

I don't really love the design, but its interesting that it has floors all the way to the top. That seems to be unusual for supertalls.

malec Sep 15, 2006 12:33 PM

Huge:


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7678/img3892jo1.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1329/img3896cf7.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2263/img3897xv3.jpg

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1654/img3900ve4.jpg

TowerPower Sep 15, 2006 9:25 PM

With SSC down currently I guess I'll get my updates here today.

RLS_rls Sep 16, 2006 12:06 AM

Minimalist...pfft. I too have noticed the detachment from 'grotesque' post-modernism into the untraveled realms of modern design. Give me a break, these new glass towers are different from 70s glass towers in that they're size and features are more refined and less bulky, which ends up giving them an even more cold hearted appearance.

Now with that said...I actually love the Index. It has that heavy brutalist style from the late 70s (and, I find, late 70s early 80s sci-fi) that, to me at least, just looks truly timeless. It's futuristic, refreshing, and just really impressive. I'd rather see it in North America, even scaled down in Japan, but in Dubai it'll just be ignored by most people as 'boring, and not Kewl looking.'

TowerPower Sep 16, 2006 12:14 AM

I wonder if they'll give skyscraper tours of Dubai in the future. Dubai: You look up, we look forward.

Thskyscraper Sep 16, 2006 1:05 AM

I love this tower. Kinda looks like it's brutalist, yet not as ugly as past examples. I think this building is perfectly executed, let's see how it looks once it's completed.

malec Sep 16, 2006 8:46 AM

We'll have to see how it turns out with all the details and stuff. As usual in dubai the renders are shit so there's no way to judge the details.

malec Sep 23, 2006 7:36 PM

Updates from today

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7493/img4155cg0.jpg

malec Oct 6, 2006 9:57 AM

Rediculously big!


http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/106/img4706lz8.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/853/img4707rm9.jpg

malec Oct 25, 2006 9:21 AM

http://static.flickr.com/110/278003746_68a14bce1d_b.jpg

malec Nov 7, 2006 6:14 PM

Gigantic!

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9462/dsc0919cr5.jpg

:)

AltinD Nov 12, 2006 6:54 PM

12-Nov-2006

http://i15.tinypic.com/4hw11ko.jpg


On the bottom right:

http://i15.tinypic.com/2zguotv.jpg

rodrt121 Nov 21, 2006 12:39 PM

Foster is always been in the fore front of innovation in architecture. Index tower 's main structure is not of the typical central core system, the supports are on the sides thus giving the building a spacious open plan design from side to side. Sounds interesting. But reminds me of the project design by Oscar Niemeyer fo France Le Defense Tower in 1973. Looks pretty much design.

ZZ-II Nov 21, 2006 1:20 PM

i love that tower

staff Nov 21, 2006 3:12 PM

I saw an ad for this tower in a Shanghai magazine today. Pretty funny.

malec Dec 5, 2006 12:42 AM

Bloody massive! Look at the workers, they look like ants!
The "openess" of this design looks interesting. I wonder how it'll turn out in the end.

http://i14.tinypic.com/4i6kr38.jpg

Nowhereman1280 Dec 5, 2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DetroitSky
I don't really love the design, but its interesting that it has floors all the way to the top. That seems to be unusual for supertalls.

Maybe unusual for supertalls in Dubai and many other cities (NY included), but not for Chicago, everyone of our supertalls is all the way to the top with floors, of course that will change if CS is built.

Anyhow, I love the index, but it kinda reminds me of Chase tower in Chicago, but with fewer vertical cement butresses and quite a bit taller. I have to say this is one of the few in Dubai I am very jealous of!

Thanks for the pics Malec! Its going to be f-ing massive!

Lecom Dec 5, 2006 7:10 AM

So what is the point of the enormous concrete wings on the sides, besides blocking views from the narrow sides?

Nowhereman1280 Dec 5, 2006 7:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecom
So what is the point of the enormous concrete wings on the sides, besides blocking views from the narrow sides?

you mean the big thick things on the left and right of the building? Those are the "cores" if you can even call them that. All the elevators, stairs, and such are in there. Thats at least a creative and interesting idea, if not a really good one. Look at how much it opens up the floor space, basically no columns. Most other concrete residential towers can't say the same, look at Trump Tower in Chicago for example, its got collumns all the way around.

Lecom Dec 6, 2006 7:27 AM

^thanks

malec Dec 15, 2006 11:22 PM

The Index

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2599/img6148ji4.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4448/img6149jn5.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/263/img6150vy5.jpg

rbowk Dec 15, 2006 11:26 PM

holy now i think about itt i love it and it is massive


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