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LeftCoaster Feb 19, 2009 12:17 AM
To be quite honest I used to agree with the guy until I looked into the feasability of a gondola... it is acutally much more practical than I thought it was initially.

Spork Feb 19, 2009 2:34 AM
Who wants to respond to this gentleman?

deasine Feb 19, 2009 2:49 AM
A covered escalator?! Don't even go there...

Hourglass Feb 19, 2009 3:05 AM
A covered escalator would likely be more expensive than the proposed gondola. Hong Kong's Central-Mid-levels escalator cost USD30M when it was completed in 1993 -- over USD60M in today's dollars.

zivan56 Feb 19, 2009 4:21 AM
Is it even possible to create an escalator 1/3 of the required size without it breaking down at least daily?

amor de cosmos Feb 19, 2009 4:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spork (Post 4096849)
Who wants to respond to this gentleman?
ooo pick me pick me!! :jester: :D
Quote:
Intermediate Capacity Transit System demonstration would be a waste

New Westminster Now


Wednesday, February 15, 1984


Dear Editor:

Re: Intermediate Capacity Transit System demo to New Westminster. Why not a "moving sidewalk"? Or heating Main and Kingsway so snow and ice melt? Or maybe more money could be put into clearing the roads during the winter - the Justice Institute manages to do a pretty fair job, but halfway there, the City of New West's efforts leave much to be desired. Given the choice between pie-(Intermediate Capacity Transit System)in-the-sky and practical solutions, politicians seem to love to waste time, energy and theoretical money.

Brian Pratt, New Westminster

David Feb 19, 2009 5:24 AM
Wow. His arguments are mind-baffling... and false. For one thing, in my 4 years of being an SFU student and experiencing SFU snow storms, it is ALWAYS above Gaglardi and Burnaby Mtn Parkway that the problems happen.

racc Feb 19, 2009 7:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 4096617)
Gondola would be a waste

Burnaby Now


Wednesday, February 18, 2009


Dear Editor:

Re: Gondola to Simon Fraser University. Why not a covered escalator up "the hill"? Or heating Gaglardi Way and Hastings Street so snow and ice melt? Or maybe more money could be put into clearing the roads during the winter - SFU manages to do a pretty fair job, but halfway down, the City of Burnaby's efforts leave much to be desired. Given the choice between pie-(gondola)in-the-sky and practical solutions, politicians seem to love to waste time, energy and theoretical money.

Brian Pratt, Burnaby
Is this guy serious? A heated road? A covered escalator? He can't be serious can he?

racc Feb 19, 2009 7:18 AM
Actually what was a waste was the 30 seconds of my life I spent responding that guy's letter to say nothing of the ink and paper it was printed on in the paper.

amor de cosmos Feb 19, 2009 11:38 PM
hey if this ever gets built, why couldn't similar gondolas be built on the east side of Burnaby Mtn & connecting onto the Evergreen Line, and in North Van & West Van also?

LeftCoaster Feb 19, 2009 11:57 PM
East side of Burnaby Mountain would link the Evergreen line with Annmore? :koko:

David Feb 19, 2009 11:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 4098598)
East side of Burnaby Mountain would link the Evergreen line with Annmore? :koko:
i think he means down the east side of the mountain from SFU to the Evergreen Line

LeftCoaster Feb 20, 2009 12:03 AM
I still dont get how North and West van factor into it? Not trying to pick it apart I just dont really get what is being proposed here.

amor de cosmos Feb 20, 2009 1:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 4098612)
I still dont get how North and West van factor into it? Not trying to pick it apart I just dont really get what is being proposed here.
all I was saying was if a gondola can go up one mountain, why not another & another? maybe from the seabus station in north van if it can be made to fit. or if a gondola can go up one side of a mountain from a skytrain station at the base, why not another station on the other side also? simple as that. i had never even heard of anmore before; I had to look it up. the evergreen line isn't going anywhere near there.

LeftCoaster Feb 20, 2009 7:02 PM
Ohh ok i see what you were saying I think. Problem with teh NS is that there is no densities up the mountain, all the denisty is strung out along the shore while the moutains are full of single family housing with absolutely no desire to use transit. LRT would be a much better choice for the shore with a line running E-W along Marine and a LRT or streetcar line running N-S along Lonsdale.

Spork Nov 7, 2009 5:28 AM
There are some discussions going on in a Facebook group about this Gondola. Apparently they are still discussing it.

I put in my two cents, but you guys could probably back me up a bit more. :worship:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?to...d=156602867503

ravman Nov 8, 2009 2:08 AM
I just saw the FB group and the last post said this and i quote



Quote:
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?to...d=156602867503


First, the preliminary study estimated the cost at $68.9 million - which is just $18.9 million (approx) more than the cost to replace the current fleet of buses that service the campus. With operating costs of $3.14 million per year ($6 million for the current fleet of buses), that would net a break even of just seven years. Makes financial sense to me.

Capacity is about the same. With the current setup, the capacity of articulated buses to SFU is about 4,800 people per hour (120 people per bus - one bus max every 90 seconds). A gondola could carry 20+ people per car every 15 seconds - 4,800 people per hour.
where is this prelim study? i havnt seen it on ssp?

and a bus arriving every 90 seconds? ha...MAX frequency is at 2-4 mins according to translink.

Spork Nov 8, 2009 2:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ravman (Post 4546792)
I just saw the FB group and the last post said this and i quote





where is this prelim study? i havnt seen it on ssp?

and a bus arriving every 90 seconds? ha...MAX frequency is at 2-4 mins according to translink.
That is from me, with info taken from this thread (first and second page). Correct if you have information that says otherwise.

ravman Nov 8, 2009 3:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spork (Post 4546835)
That is from me, with info taken from this thread (first and second page). Correct if you have information that says otherwise.
ohh.. nvm... totally forgot about those articles... so yah.. okay with the price... and an i wish for the 145 frequency!

Zassk Nov 8, 2009 4:13 AM
Which would be shorter - a gondola south to Production Way station, or a gondola east to Burquitlam station? Perhaps they can save even more money by building it from the Evergreen Line station instead.


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