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Truth is the original World Trade Center was met with critics. Just like how you criticize the base, or the mast, or the mechanical floors the Twins were just as criticized during their completion.
I am going to quote from Huxtable just to prove a point. Please don't delete this moderators as it's only to prove something. "The Towers are pure technology, the lobbies are pure schmaltz, and the impact on New York is pure speculation. The windows are so narrow that one of the greatest benefits of a tall building the panorama view out is destroyed. These are great buildings, but they are not great architecture"-Anna Luise Huxtable (NY Times, 1971). Isn't it the same thing you guys are saying now? |
To add to my point, look at the huge amount of projects that are eternally stuck in the "approved" stage, if not have construction on hold (yikes!).
The rule of thumb in NYC, if the building isn't there, it isn't there. I remember hearing that when I was a little kid. The WTC takes this saying to the floor count! NYC is like the king of scrapped-tower proposals! One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction 432 Park Avenue, 1420ft (432,8m), Site Preparation (height not final; min: 1380ft / max: 1700ft) - Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction Hudson Yards North Tower, 1292ft (393,8m), Approved 225 West 57th Street, 1250ft (381m), Proposed (likely to exceed 1300ft) 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire] The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved Hudson Yards South Tower, 1017ft (310m), Site Preparation One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction Hudson Yards Mixed-used Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Under Construction One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold) Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold) Hudson Yards Residential Tower, 800ft+ (243,8m+), Proposed 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold) 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold) Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved 107 West 57th Street, 697ft (212m), Proposed The turnover rate in Miami or Chicago is like 4 times faster... |
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1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction 2. 432 Park Avenue, 1420ft (432,8m), Under Construction (height not final; min: 1380ft / max: 1700ft) 3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction 4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1292ft (393,8m), Approved 5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire] 6. 225 West 57th Street, 1250ft (381m), Proposed (likely to exceed 1300ft) 7. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved 8. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved 9. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed 10. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction 11. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire] 12. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved 13. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved 14. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed 15. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed 16. Hudson Yards South Tower, 1017ft (310m), Site Preparation 17. One57, 1003ft (305,7m), Under Construction 18. Hudson Yards Mixed-used Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed 19. One Hudson Yards, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed 20. Sherwood Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed |
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- One Hudson Yards, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed - Sherwood Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed - 514 11th Avenue, 656ft+ (200m+), Proposed |
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Yeah, there are so many supertalls proposed that even if a couple gets canceled it wouldn't be that bad...
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Also, which supertall will be the next one to start construction? I think that it will most likely be the Coach Tower, the Girasole or One Hudson Yards. Tower Verre might also start very soon, seeing how succesful One57 was. |
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Well the Coach Tower is starting in October, so I doubt something starts before that. Assuming that construction of platforms needed for Hudson Yards North, HY Mixed Use, and Manhattan West don't count, regardless of their tenant situation, I'd say One Hudson Yards. The Girasole can't start until the 7 train extension is done, and Hudson Yards North and Brookfield's Manhattan West need massive platforms built before the towers can start, so One Hudson Yards has the earliest delivery date to potential tenants. My two cents. |
http://archpaper.com/uploads/west_side_dev_18.jpg
I hope that this design is used for the Sherwood Equities building, I really like the boxyness and how it will contrast with the more crystaline shape of the towers built over the rail yards. |
http://archpaper.com/news/articles.asp?id=6079
Sky's The Limit New York playing catch-up on super tall residential skyscrapers. http://archpaper.com/uploads/image/t...ers_nyc_01.jpg Matt Shaw 6/01/12 Quote:
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^^ The residential race is on! (btw for those who don't know, nr.4 is The Girasole, see article...)
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^^ And I thought they still have to demolish a building before actual construction can start.
--- Small update --- New tower proposed adjacent to the Grand Central Terminal: Madison Ave & 42nd Street, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed Expected to rise over 1400'. --- New renderings for 432 PA --- : http://observer.com/2012/06/432-park/ http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...6/11.jpg?w=900 http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/143825546/original.jpg |
1000 footers
1,000 footers:
1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction 2. 432 Park Avenue, 1420ft (432,8m), Under Construction (height not final; min: 1380ft / max: 1700ft) 3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction 4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1292ft (393,8m), Approved 5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire] 6. 225 West 57th Street, 1250ft (381m), Site Preparation (likely to exceed 1300ft) 7. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved 8. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved 9. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed 10. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction 11. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire] 12. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved (likely to exceed 1400ft) 13. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved 14. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed 15. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed 16. Hudson Yards South Tower, 1017ft (310m), Site Preparation 17. One57, 1005ft (306,3m), Under Construction 18. Hudson Yards Mixed-used Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed 19. One Hudson Yards, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Site Preparation 20. Sherwood Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed 21. Madison Ave & 42nd Street, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed (likely to exceed 1400ft) |
And those are just the supertalls...
Damn NYC, just damn, you kick ass I really hope other cities in the US start picking up some of the boom |
BAH!
All of them big ugly glass boxes, not a One of them with any classical charm! I SCOFF at them! |
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