NEW YORK | City Struggles With Population of Times Square
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/ny...=nyregion&_r=1
Times Square’s Crushing Success Raises Questions About Its Future http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/...-master675.jpg By CHARLES V BAGLI JAN. 26, 2015 Quote:
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Some pics from the 20 Times Square thread...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=202008&page=7 Scenes from the area today, including the new billboard at the Marriott, world's largest HD screen... 1. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348098/original.jpg 2. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348099/original.jpg 3. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348100/original.jpg 4. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348101/original.jpg 5. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348102/original.jpg 6. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348103/original.jpg 7. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348104/original.jpg 8. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348105/original.jpg 9. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/158348106/original.jpg And a live view... |
The more tourists decide to spend their time there, the better it is for New Yorkers. They can put money into the local economy and create tourism-related jobs without bothering the locals.
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NYC just feels incredibly crowded now - the subway, the streets, NJ transit, Penn Station...
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The city is taking proactive steps to increase tourism outside of Manhattan. This area will always be the mecca of tourist concentration, and likewise, Midtown in general.. I tend to love stats, and I hope they do a study on the daytime population in Manhattan by 2020. Currently, a study by NYU put the average weekday population at 4 million (typical weekday). Curious how it will jump in the next 5 years.
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NJ transit I agree on. Being a rider, the rush hour is getting to the point where they probably should add more train cars. |
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."
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I personally love incredibly crowded areas and never miss the chance to go to Times Square anytime Im in NYC.
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Yeah I think thats the charm of NYC. It adds to the experience. The crowds, the sirens, the Nation of Islam protesting, the random yelling, the honking, the guy by the WTC in a wheel chair with beats by dre (he's always there), the buses who block the box, jaywalker mecca, and so on. No where else in the U.S. do you get such an experience of chaotic beauty. Everywhere else is provincial compared to the Manhattan street experience. :cheers:
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Ya midtown manhattan sucks. Tons of chains, drug stores, overpriced crap and tourists... yuck.
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Well, there are genuine discomforts to experiencing extreme crowding on a regular basis that are not immediately perceptible through the relaxed and leisurely lens of a tourist.
For starters, most shops and restaurants offer things of "tourist quality" at "tourist prices". Getting to work on crowded sidewalks is a real pain, if one is in a hurry. Waiting half an hour in line for a coffee, same problem. Constantly being bombarded with others' mindless happiness while having a mundane and boring day, very annoying... but maybe that one's just me. |
meanwhile, brookfield (manhattan west) and related + oxford (hudson yards) are licking their chops!
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Some density and plaza shots taken via earthcam (couple months old as I used these to document the plaza progress)
http://virtual-host-discourse.global...079ab38cb7.jpg http://virtual-host-discourse.global...2ad44fe7b5.jpg The shot above is on a good day. Even without the contruction, its still a ant colony. Most of Midtown on a weekday is like this. Peak pedestrian density for most of the area and midtown in general is at 4 or 5pm. http://virtual-host-discourse.global...005427ffa6.jpg http://virtual-host-discourse.global...f1b259c0ed.jpg Random fantastic 4 mutation on the plaza. http://virtual-host-discourse.global...5d075a87c6.jpg Concert Utilizing the new space. http://virtual-host-discourse.global...e12abd96a7.jpg Some Ferguson protests: http://virtual-host-discourse.global...7cd06dc063.jpg More protests: http://virtual-host-discourse.global...c4f281a096.jpg Plaza coming along. Has a nice luster in the rain. http://virtual-host-discourse.global...afd7d8a81c.jpg First day of the big ass billboard lighting up. If only the hippies knew about this in the 70's. Acid paradise. http://virtual-host-discourse.global...57a2c898ec.jpg Earlier this morning. Post Blizzard peak. http://virtual-host-discourse.global...48719537ff.jpg http://virtual-host-discourse.global...c6395fd6d4.jpg |
I think every city should aspire to have at least one or two really busy and vibrant areas like this. Is there anywhere else in NA that comes anywhere near the foot traffic level? I can't think of any. Maybe somewhere in Mex.C?
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Outside of the U.S. in N.A., yeah Mexico City in terms of peak density. |
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Yeah, God bless those tourists. Sure, it can be annoying when they block sidewalks, but they're actually walking $$$ as far as the City is concerned. Tourism is one of the top industries in New York. I do have mixed feelings about Times Square, even though I'm in the area a lot (when I'm in a real hurry, I avoid it if I can remember to). But as far as the crowds go, it's Times Square, it's supposed to be crowded. I was very against the decision to put those plazas there, but with the new construction (and removal of the tables) it's actually not bad. There's no way Times Square could handle the crowds it has now if that didn't happen. That being said, I do believe there is a limit to how much that area can handle at one time. That's why I believe the district should be extended down Broadway to Herald Square (34th St) and then on to 34th/7th Ave, both of those intersections looking more like Times Square each day - and both just as crowded at times - but the extension along Broadway would stretch the tourists herds out. This is already starting to happen to some degree... http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=126 Some people complain about the costumed characters, but I find them humorous. Every time. And let's face it. Lots of Manhattans streets are overcrowded, and you can't blame that on the tourists. Times Square is just a good backdrop for photos, a place to stop and look. https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.c...lity=70&w=1100 http://time.com/3632806/santacon-new-york-christmas/ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OSyiata1NM...uare%2B(1).jpg http://www.vintag.es/2014/12/old-pho...years-eve.html http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KnDW7VSyhw...uare%2B(2).jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-c1IJ202yFf...uare%2B(3).jpg http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SnwS17KB4f...uare%2B(5).jpg http://mic.com/articles/77829/this-i...e-back-in-1904 http://s3.amazonaws.com/inarticles/f...ead45c9522.jpg http://main-designyoutrust.netdna-ss...rbert-Gehr.jpg http://designyoutrust.com/2012/10/ph...ugh-the-years/ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YStoCNesE7...+Stackpole.jpg |
^^ 53,000,000 people per year (over 153,000 per day) pass through Yonge-Dundas Square in Toronto. It's really taking off now as major international retailers are setting up shop in the area.
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Some memorable moments amongst Elmo and Cookie Monster. Optimus prime also weighs in on the issue. Spiderman also has an attitude. Mario's a player with two chicks (hello kitties).
And... Elmo vs Spongebob Argument: :haha: Elmo needs to relax. Under the red skin, theres someone who needs love. He was probably high as his pupils are the size if dinner plates. |
Seattle's Pike Place Market has similar issues. The crowds are obviously smaller but they're in hallways, narrow alleys, and even narrower sidewalks, and the logjam of people can take forever to walk through.
If you live in an area like that you can develop crowd-walking skills, allowing you to weave through far more quickly. But tourists generally haven't. And many locals haven't. On my visits, I think I'm the fastest pedestrian in Manhattan. |
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